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legendary
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January 22, 2025, 01:44:28 PM
Well I think it is if you look into it from the mathematical and probability perspective, you will soon find out that the slot machines which are the most played games in almost every casino use that RNG-Random Number Generator to predict results and you can guess that the higher the number the higher the prize but the reality is higher numbers come in very rarely compared to lower numbers which predict non winning or very little winnings combination, also the algorithm is programmed in such a way that the game be always for example like 5% in profit and this means the RTP-Return to Player is 95% though this only in theory and it does not mean that you deposit 100 dollars and you will get back 95 dollars, the RTP works by taking into account a certain number of spins, usually more than 1-15 million before the RTP to kick in. So if you think in this context you know the odds to be against you and you should assume that yes gambling is a scam in the end. The few big jackpot winners you may have heard and say what if I am one of them, well your chances are extremely slim and remote to get to this and even if you do, just read the story of how such guys ended up after winning lotteries and jackpots, they ended up broke again, so in the end yes gambling is a scam.
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January 22, 2025, 01:38:10 PM
You know as a gambler you need to have the intention of gambling just for fun and entertainment. If you're gambling for profit making maybe after losing for sometime definitely you will see it as scam because is not going the way you expected, but those responsible gamblers will never see it the other way round because they know what gambling is all about.

 However, gambling is not a scam that's depending on how you go about it, those who are going with it the  right way will never think of considering it as scam,  Sometimes gambling More than what you can afford can also make you think that gambling is a scam. maybe when the outcome isn't what you were actually expecting, this is why as a gambler is always advisable to gamble with at least 1% of your income  because the outcome is not always guaranteed.
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January 22, 2025, 12:43:14 PM
Not actually a scam but more on how you can handle the risk that you'll going to take as you mentioned casino have the advantage and it was design to make money for the owners, though in some situation where lucky gamblers manage to win decent amount, but with the loads of those gamblers who lose their money that can be covered and casino still got that edge against those many gamblers who are using their services.
People who get into gambling and lose all their money without winning anything would always call gambling a scam because they haven't seen the positive side of it. Imagine depositing $200 in a casino with the hope that you might make some money with it, but you end up losing money in every game you play and eventually lose all your money. What would your reaction be after that? You would be angry, frustrated, and sad, and out of those mixed emotions, you would call casinos and gambling a scam out of anger and frustration.

Those who are new to gambling should understand how gambling works in the first place before they start spending money on it. The fact that you can lose everything or possibly win something big is the reason why people say that you should only use the money that you can easily afford to lose; otherwise, you are going to regret your decision if you end up on the losing side.

yes, but they usually feed their gambling activity with hopes, dreams and excitement and not with math and discipline
for a disciplined gambler they are probably not risking more than 3% of their total bankroll available in a single bet
let alone 100%

I think people get to carried by the thrill of making money fast that they end up losing it
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January 22, 2025, 03:36:45 AM
Not actually a scam but more on how you can handle the risk that you'll going to take as you mentioned casino have the advantage and it was design to make money for the owners, though in some situation where lucky gamblers manage to win decent amount, but with the loads of those gamblers who lose their money that can be covered and casino still got that edge against those many gamblers who are using their services.
People who get into gambling and lose all their money without winning anything would always call gambling a scam because they haven't seen the positive side of it. Imagine depositing $200 in a casino with the hope that you might make some money with it, but you end up losing money in every game you play and eventually lose all your money. What would your reaction be after that? You would be angry, frustrated, and sad, and out of those mixed emotions, you would call casinos and gambling a scam out of anger and frustration.

Those who are new to gambling should understand how gambling works in the first place before they start spending money on it. The fact that you can lose everything or possibly win something big is the reason why people say that you should only use the money that you can easily afford to lose; otherwise, you are going to regret your decision if you end up on the losing side.
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January 21, 2025, 03:46:15 PM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.
It is true that gambling itself is not a scam if it is conducted in a fair manner. However, in your example with your friend, we are talking about a clear scam on the part of the casino, which may be due to the insecurity and unreliability of some platforms.

Many of us gamblers believe that gambling is not a scam, although there are some casinos that operate illegally that end up being scams. But if it is regulated, the chances are high that it is not a scam.

We just have to know how to investigate or choose casinos whether they are legitimate or not, because if we have no idea, we will surely fall into the trap of casino scams.
If we talk about it from this point of view, it is not so difficult to determine the type of casino, especially if it is a physical casino, because it is very difficult and almost unrealistic to open an illegal casino in cities and anywhere else. With online casinos is much more difficult, you will have to seriously search for information on the Internet itself and there is a high chance of not finding it, no matter what the casino actually was.

I guess most people here in the forum are talking about online casinos and have more experience on that than on physical casinos
though experience in real life casinos is valid too, of course
most online gambling websites have provably fair mechanisms nowadays too where you can verify if the place you are betting has good code or would try to steal you somehow (turning the odds even more to the house than it should)
Gambling is a scam if we do talk literally into those sites on which arent that fair or having those scam attempts into its users but if we do speak that indirectly into those people who had been calling gambling a scam because they are losing up that big time then this is something which will really be just that an alibi because they are really that just that trying out to cover themselves on what they have done. They are really just that making themselves look like laughable into the things that they've been doing because they are the ones who should really be that getting blamed into the things that they have done. On the moment or time that they've been exhausted into the funds or capital that they are using up.

This is really just that a common alibi into those gamblers who had been losing up that huge amount of money on where they do love on pointing out their fingers and telling that the platform on which they have played out are scams on which this is really just that BS thing to come out into your mouth but well people will really be that looking at them to be laughable just because they are the only ones that should be taking blame on into the things that they've been able to do specially on gambling on which every actions are that being done by own will and not being forced on doing so or being deceived.
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January 21, 2025, 12:28:48 PM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.
It is true that gambling itself is not a scam if it is conducted in a fair manner. However, in your example with your friend, we are talking about a clear scam on the part of the casino, which may be due to the insecurity and unreliability of some platforms.

Many of us gamblers believe that gambling is not a scam, although there are some casinos that operate illegally that end up being scams. But if it is regulated, the chances are high that it is not a scam.

We just have to know how to investigate or choose casinos whether they are legitimate or not, because if we have no idea, we will surely fall into the trap of casino scams.
If we talk about it from this point of view, it is not so difficult to determine the type of casino, especially if it is a physical casino, because it is very difficult and almost unrealistic to open an illegal casino in cities and anywhere else. With online casinos is much more difficult, you will have to seriously search for information on the Internet itself and there is a high chance of not finding it, no matter what the casino actually was.

I guess most people here in the forum are talking about online casinos and have more experience on that than on physical casinos
though experience in real life casinos is valid too, of course
most online gambling websites have provably fair mechanisms nowadays too where you can verify if the place you are betting has good code or would try to steal you somehow (turning the odds even more to the house than it should)
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January 18, 2025, 06:51:25 PM

Some people think that gambling is a scam due to their consistent losing in gambling, but their is a difference between losing in the gambling and a scam, casinos scam is been implies whereby you're not allowed to make a withdrawal when you win, or the site of the casino shutdown after series of winning from players.

People when they start in the world of casinos and specialize in a particular game, can get to master it so much that they become expert predictors, but what happens to them? When they make their bets and follow their patterns, everything changes and they lose and lose so often that they think that it is a scam, that the casino only took it out on them, that is what commonly happens and then they start to say that this casino is a fraud, that the game is a lie and many other things, but first, you should play in a recognized casino, and second you should learn to accept the house edge, when you accept that, by yourself you realize that gambling is not a scam.
legendary
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January 17, 2025, 06:48:24 PM
Right, and that is the reason why many people say that the ability to stop at the right time is very important and must be possessed by a gambler, none other than because only with that ability will we be able to enjoy the results of the victory that we get instead of applying greed and ending in regret.
I am not saying that by applying greed you will completely lose because it also depends on how lucky you are at that time but what is certain and what we must understand is that the possibility of defeat will always be part of the end of the game.
But it is also up to you, meaning it doesn't matter if you want to apply greed but on the condition that you must really be able to accept the consequences.

that's correct, but it's way easier said than done
sometimes when you have a win after win it gets a bit crazy and it goes up to your head and you simply can't stop, you keep going, then you lose a little bit and try to revenge win back, lose more and end up losing it all and maybe going out of the table with even less money that you had when you started

has it ever happened to you like that?

Yes I also understand that saying is always much easier than doing or practicing, one of the reasons is because the situation can really affect a person's focus and goals which ultimately makes them break their own plans such as when they succeed in achieving victory which originally their plan should not be greedy but because of the extraordinary dopamine push in the end they ignore their plans and continue to move forward until finally leading them to regret because they lost all the money they had previously earned, and yes honestly I have been in that situation because previously I was trapped in an addiction situation, so actually being disciplined in planning is really difficult to do, and it may take quite a long time to get used to it.
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January 17, 2025, 05:13:23 PM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.
You have said it all, gambling is not a scam expect its a situation whereby a gambler is been scam by a particular gambling platform, and it's rall before you can such gambling platform, the objectives of every gambling platforms is to ensure that they have they manage their customers very well, the thing is that some people misunderstood gambling, and from the look of gambling its a risk in which you can win and same time you can lose, so the thing is that every body who is a gambler have to participate in gambling with a precaution.

Some people think that gambling is a scam due to their consistent losing in gambling, but their is a difference between losing in the gambling and a scam, casinos scam is been implies whereby you're not allowed to make a withdrawal when you win, or the site of the casino shutdown after series of winning from players.
legendary
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January 17, 2025, 04:57:23 PM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.
It is true that gambling itself is not a scam if it is conducted in a fair manner. However, in your example with your friend, we are talking about a clear scam on the part of the casino, which may be due to the insecurity and unreliability of some platforms.

Many of us gamblers believe that gambling is not a scam, although there are some casinos that operate illegally that end up being scams. But if it is regulated, the chances are high that it is not a scam.

We just have to know how to investigate or choose casinos whether they are legitimate or not, because if we have no idea, we will surely fall into the trap of casino scams.
If we talk about it from this point of view, it is not so difficult to determine the type of casino, especially if it is a physical casino, because it is very difficult and almost unrealistic to open an illegal casino in cities and anywhere else. With online casinos is much more difficult, you will have to seriously search for information on the Internet itself and there is a high chance of not finding it, no matter what the casino actually was.
legendary
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January 17, 2025, 01:34:35 PM
Basically, the advantage of the casino is a fact that can never be disputed, in the sense that no matter how hard the gamblers try to pursue victory, in the end they will still lose more than win because after all everything has been arranged by the system, especially when we talk about the type of casino game that really depends on luck or it can also be said that in the end it is still the casino that will get more profit than the gamblers, in the scenario usually the casino will first give one win and after that it will make the gamblers lose several times with the aim of taking back the amount of winnings that were previously obtained by a gambler, and yes you are right with your last statement that there is only one thing that can be done by gamblers, namely taking advantage of every situation such as when they win and then cash it in, but yes it is a fact that saying it is always much easier than practicing.

this is the thing
the only way to win over the house is if you leave when you're up
then how much up it's up to you deciding
greed is usually an enemy that will get many people

this is like a muscle that you have to exercise to know when the timing is correct, maybe like dance

Right, and that is the reason why many people say that the ability to stop at the right time is very important and must be possessed by a gambler, none other than because only with that ability will we be able to enjoy the results of the victory that we get instead of applying greed and ending in regret.
I am not saying that by applying greed you will completely lose because it also depends on how lucky you are at that time but what is certain and what we must understand is that the possibility of defeat will always be part of the end of the game.
But it is also up to you, meaning it doesn't matter if you want to apply greed but on the condition that you must really be able to accept the consequences.

that's correct, but it's way easier said than done
sometimes when you have a win after win it gets a bit crazy and it goes up to your head and you simply can't stop, you keep going, then you lose a little bit and try to revenge win back, lose more and end up losing it all and maybe going out of the table with even less money that you had when you started

has it ever happened to you like that?
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January 17, 2025, 10:37:26 AM
It is true that gambling itself is not a scam if it is conducted in a fair manner. However, in your example with your friend, we are talking about a clear scam on the part of the casino, which may be due to the insecurity and unreliability of some platforms.
Precisely gambling that is done healthily is not a fraud, with those who understand the meaning of gambling well will not consider or have the thought that gambling is a fraud, I think people who consider gambling a fraud are those who think that they will definitely get a win with the capital they allocate. In fact, in gambling, winning depends on luck and no one knows when they will be lucky.
Currently, there are many platforms operating, so here we have to be smart in choosing which platform has a good reputation so that there is no fraud, for example, such as winnings that they do not pay, or the money that is deposited does not enter our own casino wallet account.
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January 17, 2025, 09:24:45 AM

Many of us gamblers believe that gambling is not a scam, although there are some casinos that operate illegally that end up being scams. But if it is regulated, the chances are high that it is not a scam.

We just have to know how to investigate or choose casinos whether they are legitimate or not, because if we have no idea, we will surely fall into the trap of casino scams.

Before sending your money to any platform (including casinos), you need to study their operation to protect yourself from scams. Because scams exist in casinos too, there are a lot of scammers, and in recent years, more and more of them have been turning their attention to users who deal with crypto, because in their opinion, these are wealthy people who have something to steal.
Well, you are right absolutely, except that statement that wealthy people are the only ones who are into crypto, and I understand this is not your statement, but the assumption of the scammers, but at this moment, I think it will be stupid for any one anywhere to still believe or have such assumptions that it's only rich people that are in crypto.

But that's by the way, going back to what is being discussed, choosing casinos that are well known and have built trust over the years is the way to go, like I often will ask myself, what's the essence of choosing to gamble on a casino I know nothing about when there are others I've been using and are trusted.
I understand that sometimes, gamblers need to explore and try new things, this is a good excuse anyway, but then, it's important to understand the risk involved.
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January 17, 2025, 09:19:54 AM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.

You're right that gambling is an activity people choose to do voluntarily, hoping to win. However, it's crucial to be cautious and make sure you're playing on reliable platforms like the ones we promote here. The negative experiences your friend had might have been due to not checking the reputation of the gambling site before entering financial information. This isn't an issue exclusive to casinos; it happens with many online sites.
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January 17, 2025, 09:13:45 AM

Many of us gamblers believe that gambling is not a scam, although there are some casinos that operate illegally that end up being scams. But if it is regulated, the chances are high that it is not a scam.

We just have to know how to investigate or choose casinos whether they are legitimate or not, because if we have no idea, we will surely fall into the trap of casino scams.

Before sending your money to any platform (including casinos), you need to study their operation to protect yourself from scams. Because scams exist in casinos too, there are a lot of scammers, and in recent years, more and more of them have been turning their attention to users who deal with crypto, because in their opinion, these are wealthy people who have something to steal.
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January 17, 2025, 08:52:20 AM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.
It is true that gambling itself is not a scam if it is conducted in a fair manner. However, in your example with your friend, we are talking about a clear scam on the part of the casino, which may be due to the insecurity and unreliability of some platforms.

Many of us gamblers believe that gambling is not a scam, although there are some casinos that operate illegally that end up being scams. But if it is regulated, the chances are high that it is not a scam.

We just have to know how to investigate or choose casinos whether they are legitimate or not, because if we have no idea, we will surely fall into the trap of casino scams.
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January 17, 2025, 08:21:22 AM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.
It is true that gambling itself is not a scam if it is conducted in a fair manner. However, in your example with your friend, we are talking about a clear scam on the part of the casino, which may be due to the insecurity and unreliability of some platforms.
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January 17, 2025, 08:03:03 AM
Gambling is a fun activity done consciously by the gambler, no one forces you to do it, it's a personal decision made by those who engage in it. Gambling is only a scam when you get defrauded by a casino or sportsbook. A friend of mine told me about how his account got swiped by a scam casino. According to his story he said that he put in his card details to deposit money, after doing that he started noticing that he was being debited by an anonymous source constantly, he had to transfer the money he had left to another account, in this case you can call it a scam. No one is promising you a win, it's 50/50 and everyone is aware of this risk before placing a bet.
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January 17, 2025, 07:52:23 AM
Isn't gambling just a game provided for fun with small amounts and trying your luck?
Gambling is not a scam and it all actually depends on each person's mindset. If you think of gambling as just playing to entertain yourself, it's not a scam. But if you think of gambling as a place to double your money, that's a scam from our own mindset.
Gambling owners never cheat anything from their customers but they only build a business to make money by exchanging the game for money in small amounts and can afford to be lost.
And if you win, believe me it's just a bonus.
A lot of people tend to ignore the fact that gambling is as simple as a "try your luck" game and they focus of calling it a scam instead of looking for platforms like rollspace that increases their probability of luck.
Those who call gambling a scam are definitely the effect of their losses, because as you said, if gambling is just a game that relies on luck to win like slots and lotteries, while sports betting, poker and other card games require a combination of skill and luck to conquer it, so we can't see it as a scam even though the casino is actually designed to profit from every gamble we play, I think maybe in this case, the OP has had a bad experience on a site that commits fraud but instead equates it with the gambling category that exists today.

Not actually a scam but more on how you can handle the risk that you'll going to take as you mentioned casino have the advantage and it was design to make money for the owners, though in some situation where lucky gamblers manage to win decent amount, but with the loads of those gamblers who lose their money that can be covered and casino still got that edge against those many gamblers who are using their services.
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January 17, 2025, 02:50:34 AM
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Gambling can never be a scam. Gambling is just a game. If the name of this game were anything other than gambling, then this game would be known by that name. This game is called risk because by playing this game, some people become rich overnight or become banana trees, and some become street beggars overnight. We can call some people involved in gambling bad, but not everyone is bad. A handful of people think that the entire game is a scam.

sometimes it can be a scam in the sense that it can be used to scam people
You are very wrong about this, gambling is not a scam and nothing can change that. If people are using gambling to scam people, it is another different issue, and I've never seen a way of making money that people have not been used to scam people. Be it investment and trading (Crypto/Traditional), or even banking, all are being used to scam people. Now tell me, are they scams in the real sense? I guess not. Even if a casino scams you, that casino is simply the "bad egg" among those in the gambling business, this doesn't make gambling itself a scam.
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