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Quote from: Sim_card on December 10, 2024, 01:51:30 PM

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Gambling will be scam when you lose your dollars but when you get profit you can never consider it as scam.
Gambling is a scam for those who are constantly making losses instead of profits.But gambling is not a scam to those who continue to profit. But if I have to give my personal view, I can never consider it as a scam. But there are some gambling sites in which after depositing your dollars, if the account is suspended to withdraw the dollars, you can assume the site as a scam.

The term "gambling means using money to stake". I don't see how this act is a scam without human using this medium as a means to scam people. Casinos that are out to scam people doesn't make gambling abscam. If you feel that you are been scammed because you are not winning, then quit gambling and stop having hope that you can win your bet.

Any gambler that believes he or she will win one day, means that the gambler is deceiving him or herself, because winning through gambling is by luck and telling yourself you will win the next round will only turn you into an addicted gambler instead of making you to be a responsible gambler. However, those who actually think that gambling is a scam are those that have planned to gamble and win huge money, but since they haven't gained what they have always wanted through gambling, they start thinking the other way round (that gamble is a pure scam, which it is not).

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Quote from: AYOBA on December 10, 2024, 01:34:17 PM

But when is coming to gambling us a place where everyone come and stake the amount of money that they can afford to lose, since there’s a reward for them after stake and win the exactly team they predict too; that’s all about the gambling.

For scams it's the people or companies that organised the scams that benefits and not other people that participated but in gambling, it's the other gamblers that predicted the opposite of what those that lost predicted that becomes victorious. The house will also share in the profits but it isn't like with scams that everyone always gets scammed. Gambling has never been a scam and for you losing doesn't make gambling a scam. If we're gambling as it's being advice to gamble, we won't be bothered with gambling being called a scam or not because we only stake the amount that we can let go hence when we lose it, we don't get angry and forget about the money. Gambling can favour you sometimes but other times, It won't favour you hence when it does favour you, you're meant to make use of that opportunity effectively so you don't have to be desperate when it doesn't favour you.

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Quote from: junder on December 04, 2024, 03:12:12 PM

I see some people around me consider gambling as a scam when they lose but on the contrary when they are given a win gambling is something fun and also profitable. So we can interpret that what is wrong is not the place or gambling company but the behavior of the person himself who turns a blind eye to the risks of gambling or what I mean is that people who consider gambling as a scam only see the profit side. Therefore, gamble with limits and also how much you can afford to lose.

Wrll those that speak about gambling as scam are those who have negative experiences about gambling and instead of accepting responsibility move on accepting that they allowed their greed to take a better part of their decision making which result into their loses, the tend to shift the blame on gambling and calling it a scam in the end.

Those that have a valide reasons to call gambling a scam are those who because of one thing or the other, casinos take the winning and lock account for no reasons or fault of the gamblers just as 1xbit is scamming players.
But anything other than that, it's no scam and if a gambler loses a bet that doesn't mean the casino scam them.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on December 04, 2024, 12:52:36 PM

Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Gambling will be scam when you lose your dollars but when you get profit you can never consider it as scam.
Gambling is a scam for those who are constantly making losses instead of profits.But gambling is not a scam to those who continue to profit. But if I have to give my personal view, I can never consider it as a scam. But there are some gambling sites in which after depositing your dollars, if the account is suspended to withdraw the dollars, you can assume the site as a scam.

The term "gambling means using money to stake". I don't see how this act is a scam without human using this medium as a means to scam people. Casinos that are out to scam people doesn't make gambling abscam. If you feel that you are been scammed because you are not winning, then quit gambling and stop having hope that you can win your bet.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

The is not scam anymore since you try as much possible to much on how does it work so I will never agree that a word gambling is scam: A word scam is what you don’t know much about a someone invited you to join, and ask you to put money for you to gain huge amounts; and at the end of day they run with all of your money that put in their plat form that what we call a scam.

But when is coming to gambling us a place where everyone come and stake the amount of money that they can afford to lose, since there’s a reward for them after stake and win the exctely team they predict too; that’s all about the gambling.

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I see a lot of SCAM accusations about some casinos platform, when someone makes a huge profit, which casino platform refuses to pay it, they got SCAM but still in online a lot of casino platform is huge reputed, yeah if you will win big amount of money then as per as their regulation they can ask KYC that's it, as like you mentioned stake,rollbit and some others trusted casino platform, personally i'm experienced in such platform.

Sometimes there are only allegations that are not basic and those who feel cheated and do not get paid on their account,
they just make complaints and make posts on the gambling thread used.

Even though they have not done all the measures so that withdrawals can be made.
Some are just communication issues and requirements that have not been completed.

I saw some people report about Roobet withdrawals, but in the end Roobet did well without a hitch. It's just about a person's panic to withdraw their money.

It is better to use an already trusted casino platform like Rollbit,
rather than just starting with a new casino that may not necessarily be able to pay out winnings and is not necessarily safe.

There are absolutely a bunch of these people who immediately resort into posting their complaints without even meeting first the requirements to make their request happen. And eventually some people sympathize and call the casino a big scam, but in reality, they just don’t follow the rules so expect that the casino itself will also decline their request. It’s better to read the terms and conditions first and comprehend before you decide to risk your funds and bet.

roobet is quite famous here in the forum and rollbit too
both are probably ok from a trusting standpoint

most of the accusations I saw against them were false probably made by angry users but without any substance on their claims.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Well, the thing is, gambling can be a scam if a person is playing in an unregulated platform since there is a higher risk that the platform can turn rouge and scam their users and run away with the money. But in a regulated or legit gambling platform, the odds, the warnings, the risks and the terms and conditions are being relayed to the players, so the player has the knowledge of the risk involved and it can't be considered a scam if the probability of winning is openly disclosed.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Gambling can be a big problem for those who do not have a good knowledge or skill in gambling and try to use it for their own purposes. They will be most affected by the negative aspects of gambling. There are many gamblers who dream of making money from gambling and at some point they become addicted. When they lose all their money, they are able to understand that gambling is not a way to earn money.

If someone gambles only for their entertainment or within their ability, then he will never be affected by the negative effects of gambling. We will not get any complaints from those who practice responsible gambling, but those who have been affected by irresponsible gambling are the ones who are blaming gambling. I do not see any way to call gambling as scam. It works its own way.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on December 04, 2024, 10:51:56 AM

You can make money from gambling and I guess technically one can make money from a scam as well, but there's a reason that so many people keep coming back to it. Do so many people keep going back to "bitconnect" coin? A clear and obvious scam/ponzi.

Most people are well aware the the games are stacked in the favor of the "house", or Casino, but this is how they are able to remain open/profitable.

You said many things but none reflected gambling being a scam or not. We do not have to beat around the bush, gambling is not a scam, anyone can quote me anywhere. If it is formal, then it's a contractual agreement between the house and the gambler, it is left for the gambler to assent to it. The moment he assents to it means that he fully understands how it works and the risk involved.

It can only be a scam if the casino/sportsbook cheated or even directly scammed the customer. At that point, it is collecting money under false pretence, but if they deliver what they promised but the gambler only loses, it's never a scam and no one is stopping him from stopping.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on December 05, 2024, 12:55:47 AM

Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

If you haven't been able to withdraw your funds from a casino where you gambled, I can say that you were scammed, but if you haven't been able to withdraw your funds because you violated rules on their platform that caused your funds to not be recovered from their platform, I don't think it's a scam.

Because there are many people who complain about the casino where they gambled and won a large amount, then their account was suddenly blocked, they say they were scammed,
but in the end it turns out that it was their fault that's why it happened.

Maybe that happen because those gamblers break one of the casino rules so they can't withdraw their win money. The trust casino will not do that as that can harm their reputation and will process the withdrawal. They can check those winners before they continue the process of withdrawal so there is nothing bad happen to both side, casino and gamblers who win.

But mostly what happen to people is because they break the rules and makes their account been blocked by the casino. We must avoid that thing so we will not get the same experience.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on December 04, 2024, 10:51:56 AM

You can make money from gambling and I guess technically one can make money from a scam as well, but there's a reason that so many people keep coming back to it. Do so many people keep going back to "bitconnect" coin? A clear and obvious scam/ponzi.

Most people are well aware the the games are stacked in the favor of the "house", or Casino, but this is how they are able to remain open/profitable.

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Anyway, I agree with you that you can still make money from gambling, but most ending up losing all of their money because of their desire to make more money and they aren't contented with the winnings that they have. The desire to win more is the reason why they're ending up losing. Yes, this isn't the case for a few gamblers, but for most of the time, it is.

As for if gambling is a scam, they aren't stealing your money in an illegal way so there's no reason to call it a scam. Most of the gamblers that are losing their money are losing it in a legal way, and it's their decision to gamble thus, there are consequences to it.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

If you haven't been able to withdraw your funds from a casino where you gambled, I can say that you were scammed, but if you haven't been able to withdraw your funds because you violated rules on their platform that caused your funds to not be recovered from their platform, I don't think it's a scam.

Because there are many people who complain about the casino where they gambled and won a large amount, then their account was suddenly blocked, they say they were scammed,
but in the end it turns out that it was their fault that's why it happened.

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Quote from: junder on December 04, 2024, 03:12:12 PM

I see some people around me consider gambling as a scam when they lose but on the contrary when they are given a win gambling is something fun and also profitable. So we can interpret that what is wrong is not the place or gambling company but the behavior of the person himself who turns a blind eye to the risks of gambling or what I mean is that people who consider gambling as a scam only see the profit side. Therefore, gamble with limits and also how much you can afford to lose.

So everyone would follow your advice. When people start winning, then even more excitement takes over the mind. You want to get even more money and very quickly. So this race into the unknown begins. Although what am I talking about? What kind of uncertainty? Here the result, as it seems to me, is quite obvious - the loss of all funds. Isn't that so? "Appetite comes with eating."

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Why did you come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam? Gambling never promises you any profit. You should know that all casinos have an house advantage called house edge. The more you keep on playing, the higher your chance of losing money. Made a profit? Best thing to do is take the profit and quit when you are ahead. Keep on playing, you will ending up losing both your deposit and your profit. Also never gamble for the profit, gamble for fun and it wont feel like you are getting scammed.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 23, 2024, 04:51:26 PM

It will be only a scam if you lose your money.

But for those who are winning big, then how can you call gambling a scam? There's a lot of proof already that someone has won big

Funny tho but that's a general mindset of people especially when they must have sacrifice their time and money on a particular thing and at the end it's not bringing forth anything as pertaining money so then they call it scam, so I accept the fact when you said if you lose money in gambling it's scam and if you don't it's otherwise cause gambling is not a thing of the weak honestly.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

In reality, everything in this life, even if it doesn't seem like it, is measured in probability. Time is a scam because it doesn't really exist. It is a measure of human time to be able to know its existence, productivity, etc. Time is not what it really is, but it works that way, and those parameters have been accepted.

The above is fulfilled with bets/gambling.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on December 04, 2024, 12:52:36 PM

Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Gambling will be scam when you lose your dollars but when you get profit you can never consider it as scam.
Gambling is a scam for those who are constantly making losses instead of profits.But gambling is not a scam to those who continue to profit. But if I have to give my personal view, I can never consider it as a scam. But there are some gambling sites in which after depositing your dollars, if the account is suspended to withdraw the dollars, you can assume the site as a scam.

Well, it's that simple, my friend, as you said, your idea makes me assume that one of the reasons gamblers accuse gambling of being a scam is because they often lose or lose more often than they win or are not as lucky as other gamblers, maybe I can also say that most likely those who will assume that gambling is a scam are gamblers who come with a wrong understanding of the concept of gambling or those who are already trapped in addiction, I believe that despair and disappointment can really make someone emotional and maybe the idea of fraud is a form of the emotional effect they experience because of defeat.

Actually, it can be said in general that they are losers who come only to win but are not ready for the risk of defeat, because after all, from the start it was clear that gambling is always about two things in the sense that if you don't win, it means you lose, well if you lose it means you are unlucky, it's that simple.

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I see some people around me consider gambling as a scam when they lose but on the contrary when they are given a win gambling is something fun and also profitable. So we can interpret that what is wrong is not the place or gambling company but the behavior of the person himself who turns a blind eye to the risks of gambling or what I mean is that people who consider gambling as a scam only see the profit side. Therefore, gamble with limits and also how much you can afford to lose.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Gambling will be scam when you lose your dollars but when you get profit you can never consider it as scam.
Gambling is a scam for those who are constantly making losses instead of profits.But gambling is not a scam to those who continue to profit. But if I have to give my personal view, I can never consider it as a scam. But there are some gambling sites in which after depositing your dollars, if the account is suspended to withdraw the dollars, you can assume the site as a scam.

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But that does not mean that when someone considers this a scam all will do the same. The conditions will not change where even though there are a handful of people who consider this a scam but in the end there are still many who will still gamble.

There are obvious reasons why gambling activities are not considered scams. Perhaps the most prominent of these reasons is that individuals participate in gambling with their full consent, aware of the potential risks of winning and losing. There is no coercion or deception that forces them to participate. Also, the outcomes of gambling games are based on probability, which is equal for all players. No party has an unfair advantage over the other. Another important point is that licensed casinos and gambling sites are subject to strict government oversight, ensuring fair gaming and equal opportunities for all.

Because at the end of the day people who gamble without coercion and as you said it is emphasized from the beginning that this is a game full of risks and even for some sites that exist today in the T&C also sometimes there is some clarity on this so it would be ridiculous if when a gambler loses then they will say that this is gambling but when they win, they will be very comfortable and laugh at their winnings.

The concept is not like this and in the end everything will remain the same where gambling will still be predominantly said to be a business for the bookmakers and as a game of luck for us who are players.

This does not negate the idea that since gambling has become possible online, platforms can manipulate their systems to implement scams without raising suspicion. Without allegations confirmed by expert users, these schemes cannot be detected. Therefore, it can be concluded that gambling does not fall within scam schemes according to its known principles, but it can be a window to design scam schemes based on manipulating technical systems or by designing unfair games that guarantee permanent losses for players and permanent gains for the house.

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