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Quote from: taufik123 on December 03, 2024, 05:13:24 AM

Quote from: mdzahed134 on December 01, 2024, 02:02:40 PM

I see a lot of SCAM accusations about some casinos platform, when someone makes a huge profit, which casino platform refuses to pay it, they got SCAM but still in online a lot of casino platform is huge reputed, yeah if you will win big amount of money then as per as their regulation they can ask KYC that's it, as like you mentioned stake,rollbit and some others trusted casino platform, personally i'm experienced in such platform.

Sometimes there are only allegations that are not basic and those who feel cheated and do not get paid on their account,
they just make complaints and make posts on the gambling thread used.

Even though they have not done all the measures so that withdrawals can be made.
Some are just communication issues and requirements that have not been completed.

I saw some people report about Roobet withdrawals, but in the end Roobet did well without a hitch. It's just about a person's panic to withdraw their money.

It is better to use an already trusted casino platform like Rollbit,
rather than just starting with a new casino that may not necessarily be able to pay out winnings and is not necessarily safe.

There are absolutely a bunch of these people who immediately resort into posting their complaints without even meeting first the requirements to make their request happen. And eventually some people sympathize and call the casino a big scam, but in reality, they just don’t follow the rules so expect that the casino itself will also decline their request. It’s better to read the terms and conditions first and comprehend before you decide to risk your funds and bet.

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Quote from: laijsica on December 03, 2024, 04:57:33 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 01, 2024, 02:58:33 PM

If an individual thinks that gambling is a scam, then they are confused and believe that the point of gambling is to make money. It isn’t. The point of gambling is to pay for entertainment. The entertainment or excitement comes from the chance that you could win a ton of money, but it is unlikely so in reality you are paying for the fun of the chance, not the actual prize.

The idea of gambling as a form of entertainment may confuse some gamblers, but it is true. Some gamblers are accustomed to gambling as a means of earning money, which makes the opportunity to lose money more tempting for them. The potential for winning in gambling may be limited for a gambler and he should rely on luck accordingly. I think people who consider gambling a scam should blame their luck on themselves, as they may have either deprived themselves of potential rewards or lost their money in the pursuit of wealth and became overly addicted.

good point OgNasty
I totally agree that when people gamble with the hopes of making money sometimes they don't realize that what they are really doing is paying for enterteinment with a difference than when they pay for cinema or for a book: they can get the money they put in gambling back to their pockets

we play money games since really early times...

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Quote from: romero121 on December 03, 2024, 06:59:59 PM

When this reality is understood, people will stop saying gambling is a scam.

It would be too utopic or ideal to assume there will be a time when people who are used to gamble will in their totality to see gambling as a way of entertainment and not as a quick way to make money out their luck. It is because the grade of expectation each one of us have within from the money we wager in each session, even those who are aware gambling is a business for the owner of the casino feel it a little bit of hope of walked out the casino with more money than they initially entered with.
What is the ideal way to deal with that mentality? It is for anyone's guess, in my opinion. But I would personally liked if parents and teachers taught their children from then childhood about what gambling is what how it is supposed to work for both the house and gamblers in general, so when they grow up and turn into adults, they won't grown expectations in them which could be translated into financial loss and disappointment after disappointment.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on December 03, 2024, 03:29:07 PM

Quote from: Juse14 on November 30, 2024, 01:05:49 PM

One more thing, the casino will never ask you where you get the money to gamble, and the casino never forces anyone to gamble, the decision to gamble is yours and you must be responsible for that decision, regardless of the outcome, whether you win or lose.

This is not entirely correct; in some cases, some casinos ask through the KYC process to provide proof of funds, probably maybe based on suspicious activities or something that triggers that action, but there are cases where the casino can ask the gambler to provide information concerning how they came about the money they use in gambling. It doesn't happen initially when the gambler wants to start, nor does it happen on a regular basis, but we can't neglect the fact that they do ask.

Yes, you are right and this is nothing more than to prevent illegal activities such as money laundering. However, this is only done once during data or identity verification. In addition, the casino will never ask where the money you get to gamble comes from, unless you make a large deposit, maybe the casino will ask first about the source of funds you get to gamble, they will ask for supporting documents to support the deposit you make, ensuring that the money you deposit comes from a legitimate source.

However, it should be noted here that those who are addicted to gambling, gamble with the money they have. Not too big, and not exceeding the limits set by the casino. They gamble with the money they have, because people who are addicted to gambling when holding money, the first thing that comes to mind is placing a bet.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 03, 2024, 05:42:20 PM

Gambling is something that can make you extra rich or extremely poor in the process. The real challenge here is controlling your emotions when gambling so that you won’t end up regretting because you lose all your hard-earned money like thin air. However, gambling responsibly will let you feel that gambling is also productive. Only those who have shady intentions in gambling are the big scams, gambling itself is never a scam.

Gambling isn't a scam, and it is a powerful way to strengthen your financial life. Once you start losing, it gets termed as a scam. This isn't the mistake of the gambler or the platform; it is all about the process. For the gambling platform owner, it is business, and for the gambler, it is a way to make money risking money. This is the understanding that is wrong. For the gambler, it needs to be entertainment. When this reality is understood, people will stop saying gambling is a scam.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 03, 2024, 05:42:20 PM

Gambling is something that can make you extra rich or extremely poor in the process. The real challenge here is controlling your emotions when gambling so that you won’t end up regretting because you lose all your hard-earned money like thin air. However, gambling responsibly will let you feel that gambling is also productive. Only those who have shady intentions in gambling are the big scams, gambling itself is never a scam.

Those who have ill intentions are the scam; well, as funny as it sounds, that's true, but the casino is just built for people to get that wrong impression about them since the house is always on the higher ground of winning.

Such things alone are enough to make someone consider calling the system a scam, but how they react to it is based on how much confidence they have placed on their bets, wanting to get something tangible from the system, which they got, lay down, and end up losing. It could have been way more easily tackled if everyone gambled responsibly and not greedily, which drives them to spending much more than they can afford.

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Gambling is something that can make you extra rich or extremely poor in the process. The real challenge here is controlling your emotions when gambling so that you won’t end up regretting because you lose all your hard-earned money like thin air. However, gambling responsibly will let you feel that gambling is also productive. Only those who have shady intentions in gambling are the big scams, gambling itself is never a scam.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on November 25, 2024, 10:36:18 PM

But that does not mean that when someone considers this a scam all will do the same. The conditions will not change where even though there are a handful of people who consider this a scam but in the end there are still many who will still gamble.

There are obvious reasons why gambling activities are not considered scams. Perhaps the most prominent of these reasons is that individuals participate in gambling with their full consent, aware of the potential risks of winning and losing. There is no coercion or deception that forces them to participate. Also, the outcomes of gambling games are based on probability, which is equal for all players. No party has an unfair advantage over the other. Another important point is that licensed casinos and gambling sites are subject to strict government oversight, ensuring fair gaming and equal opportunities for all.

Because at the end of the day people who gamble without coercion and as you said it is emphasized from the beginning that this is a game full of risks and even for some sites that exist today in the T&C also sometimes there is some clarity on this so it would be ridiculous if when a gambler loses then they will say that this is gambling but when they win, they will be very comfortable and laugh at their winnings.

The concept is not like this and in the end everything will remain the same where gambling will still be predominantly said to be a business for the bookmakers and as a game of luck for us who are players.

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Quote from: Juse14 on November 30, 2024, 01:05:49 PM

One more thing, the casino will never ask you where you get the money to gamble, and the casino never forces anyone to gamble, the decision to gamble is yours and you must be responsible for that decision, regardless of the outcome, whether you win or lose.

This is not entirely correct; in some cases, some casinos ask through the KYC process to provide proof of funds, probably maybe based on suspicious activities or something that triggers that action, but there are cases where the casino can ask the gambler to provide information concerning how they came about the money they use in gambling. It doesn't happen initially when the gambler wants to start, nor does it happen on a regular basis, but we can't neglect the fact that they do ask.

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Quote from: taufik123 on December 03, 2024, 05:13:24 AM

Quote from: mdzahed134 on December 01, 2024, 02:02:40 PM

I see a lot of SCAM accusations about some casinos platform, when someone makes a huge profit, which casino platform refuses to pay it, they got SCAM but still in online a lot of casino platform is huge reputed, yeah if you will win big amount of money then as per as their regulation they can ask KYC that's it, as like you mentioned stake,rollbit and some others trusted casino platform, personally i'm experienced in such platform.

Sometimes there are only allegations that are not basic and those who feel cheated and do not get paid on their account,
they just make complaints and make posts on the gambling thread used.

Even though they have not done all the measures so that withdrawals can be made.
Some are just communication issues and requirements that have not been completed.

I saw some people report about Roobet withdrawals, but in the end Roobet did well without a hitch. It's just about a person's panic to withdraw their money.

It is better to use an already trusted casino platform like Rollbit,
rather than just starting with a new casino that may not necessarily be able to pay out winnings and is not necessarily safe.

We do know that people are really that too fast on making accusations on the time that they have experienced some issues that they dont really like. Who does want on experiencing issues?
The bad thing on here is that they dont really have that patience on hearing out some excuses or explanation and thats why they do directly made out some accusations thread directly but on the moment that the platform do give out their side or whatever violations that the user had been done. About on the thing about gambling as a scam then its not a scam since you are the ones who do make out such deposit and as long the platform didnt locked out your funds and able to play accordingly and on fair manner then i dont see any issues with this. It is really just that when people are losing that big time then they do become that too emotional and thats why on the moment that they do lose then they will really be putting up the blame without having that solid evidences but simply they do tell that it isnt fair just because they had lost too much. It is really that a very common human being behavior on why they do have these kind of sentiments towards on what they are currently doing.

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Quote from: Platinumys on December 03, 2024, 12:44:25 PM

I have seen many gamblers who lost all their money gambling and I have also seen many gamblers who gambled with relatively small amounts of money and won huge sums of money. In fact, it is impossible to predict the future of gambling. Here gamblers have to gamble and always expect that they will hit the jackpot at some point, even though the jackpot is not that easy to get. But if a gambler hits the jackpot, that gamble can change the gambler's career.

Jackpots are going to change a gambler's life because of how huge the prize is. But as you're saying, there are many gamblers that have lost their money as well.
And that only means that it is the majority that are losing and there are gamblers too that whenever they lose, they intend to blame the casino and accuses them of being a scam because losing is difficult to accept and that's why.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 23, 2024, 04:51:26 PM

It will be only a scam if you lose your money.

Gambling is not scam when you lose because anyone who is engaging in gambling activities have to know that it's either they will lose or win. Gambling being a scam depends on how the gambler views it from their own perspective mostly for those who continuously lose bets but yet they don't give up thinking they will recover their losses and end up gambling with all the money they have with them. If we follow gambling as just a game that involves winning and losing and not to fall into addiction to the extent of spending too much money and time in it, i don't see why we should call it a scam. Perhaps, people who wins more often can never see it as a scam but for those that loses most of the time, they will actually call it a scam. The only scam i see about gambling is those who program built-in games in their casino site because there is possibility of them manipulating the outcomes to their own benefits.

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Quote from: laijsica on December 03, 2024, 04:57:33 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 01, 2024, 02:58:33 PM

If an individual thinks that gambling is a scam, then they are confused and believe that the point of gambling is to make money. It isn’t. The point of gambling is to pay for entertainment. The entertainment or excitement comes from the chance that you could win a ton of money, but it is unlikely so in reality you are paying for the fun of the chance, not the actual prize.

The idea of gambling as a form of entertainment may confuse some gamblers, but it is true. Some gamblers are accustomed to gambling as a means of earning money, which makes the opportunity to lose money more tempting for them. The potential for winning in gambling may be limited for a gambler and he should rely on luck accordingly. I think people who consider gambling a scam should blame their luck on themselves, as they may have either deprived themselves of potential rewards or lost their money in the pursuit of wealth and became overly addicted.

It is true that gambling as entertainment is the most appropriate idea, because when players have the idea of seeking profit in gambling, it usually makes their situation even more difficult. Wrong ideas like this will only trap them in difficult conditions, so the right thing is to have the idea that gambling is an entertainment that must be done properly. Agree with what you said, winning in gambling depends on luck so there is no sure way to bring luck.
People who think gambling is a cheater, in my opinion, should be able to blame themselves, why do they themselves have to assume that they can make a profit from gambling like that, even though it is not certain that gambling will always give them the rewards that many people dream of.

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I have seen many gamblers who lost all their money gambling and I have also seen many gamblers who gambled with relatively small amounts of money and won huge sums of money. In fact, it is impossible to predict the future of gambling. Here gamblers have to gamble and always expect that they will hit the jackpot at some point, even though the jackpot is not that easy to get. But if a gambler hits the jackpot, that gamble can change the gambler's career.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Gambling is not a scam as long as we fully understand what it is and what it will bring us. Definition of scam is something that is deceiving though it may run in a system that resembles scam or it really is but that is always up to us if we are getting fooled by it. It is our own personal choice to get involved on it so we should be aware of it. We already know what is right and wrong therefore choosing what is goof for us is all our full responsibility. It is the matter of our decision whether we use our hard earned money or not so for me it is not a scam. The only thing here that concerns me is choosing the right platform to place your bet because that is where we might encounter scam sites, apps or platforms that frauds are most likely gonna happen.

I agree with you gambling is not a scam it depends on the person to control it. There are many gamblers who become greedy with the addiction to win more and then place bets without checking the good platform and then fall prey to scams and lose everything. Emotions should be controlled and discipline should be maintained. Don't let feelings dictate your actions and don't try to recover loss after loss. Be aware that it is correct that verifying the correct platform will not be a scam.

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Quote from: laijsica on December 03, 2024, 04:57:33 AM

The idea of gambling as a form of entertainment may confuse some gamblers, but it is true. Some gamblers are accustomed to gambling as a means of earning money, which makes the opportunity to lose money more tempting for them. The potential for winning in gambling may be limited for a gambler and he should rely on luck accordingly. I think people who consider gambling a scam should blame their luck on themselves, as they may have either deprived themselves of potential rewards or lost their money in the pursuit of wealth and became overly addicted.

Casinos are fairly honest, you know the rules of the game and all you need to do is play, relying on your luck or your knowledge. I don't think that gambling is worth counting on earnings, simply because it is really very difficult, and only some players manage to do it, I think that the same statistics apply here that no more than 3% of players can play with a profit, the rest either play at breakeven, or with losses of varying degrees.

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Quote from: taufik123 on November 30, 2024, 01:13:33 PM

Such casinos that you really need to be aware of, if you keep logging in and depositing money into the casino then withdrawals will be very difficult with complicated rules as you say.

Trusted official casinos will only apply KYC and if it is implemented and done according to the rules,
then the money can be disbursed easily, without any other complicated rules.

That is the benefit if we research first before deciding to choose the casino. By research, we will know how good and safe the casino to be used as a place for playing gambling to us. We can not deposit money over and over because that makes us just waste the money without have a chance to win. We need to take care of ourselves when playing gambling especially from the big lose.

Trusted casinos will apply KYC in terms following the regulations and will not make their members have a problem when they want to withdraw their money. This casino is the right place for us to playing gambling because the casino can serves us better.

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Quote from: Oasisman on December 03, 2024, 03:40:17 AM

Now, for the online gambling, I don't think it's even close as fun as land based casinos, so, most people in online gambling are actually aiming to win cash.

I'm not gambling without a reason. We often hear stories about people making big money through online gambling, which is why so many get encouraged to gamble as well. Unfortunately, the reality hits hard—people chase the dream of earning quick cash, some even borrowing money to start, only to end up losing everything.

Maybe that's what the OP is pointing out, but it doesn’t mean we should say that gambling is a scam. The truth is, we go in assuming we will win, and when we don’t, we’re quick to cry “scam.”

If you are a true gambler, you know the risks—you understand that winning isn’t guaranteed and more often losing than winning.

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Quote from: mdzahed134 on December 01, 2024, 02:02:40 PM

I see a lot of SCAM accusations about some casinos platform, when someone makes a huge profit, which casino platform refuses to pay it, they got SCAM but still in online a lot of casino platform is huge reputed, yeah if you will win big amount of money then as per as their regulation they can ask KYC that's it, as like you mentioned stake,rollbit and some others trusted casino platform, personally i'm experienced in such platform.

Sometimes there are only allegations that are not basic and those who feel cheated and do not get paid on their account,
they just make complaints and make posts on the gambling thread used.

Even though they have not done all the measures so that withdrawals can be made.
Some are just communication issues and requirements that have not been completed.

I saw some people report about Roobet withdrawals, but in the end Roobet did well without a hitch. It's just about a person's panic to withdraw their money.

It is better to use an already trusted casino platform like Rollbit,
rather than just starting with a new casino that may not necessarily be able to pay out winnings and is not necessarily safe.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 01, 2024, 02:58:33 PM

If an individual thinks that gambling is a scam, then they are confused and believe that the point of gambling is to make money. It isn’t. The point of gambling is to pay for entertainment. The entertainment or excitement comes from the chance that you could win a ton of money, but it is unlikely so in reality you are paying for the fun of the chance, not the actual prize.

The idea of gambling as a form of entertainment may confuse some gamblers, but it is true. Some gamblers are accustomed to gambling as a means of earning money, which makes the opportunity to lose money more tempting for them. The potential for winning in gambling may be limited for a gambler and he should rely on luck accordingly. I think people who consider gambling a scam should blame their luck on themselves, as they may have either deprived themselves of potential rewards or lost their money in the pursuit of wealth and became overly addicted.

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