Topic: Is gambling bad to the society? - page 19. (Read 7962 times)

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusions but probably if we put everything in the case and consider it 100% we'll get to an outcome where gambling is more of a problem and more on the bad side than on the good side.

can you develop a little bit your conclusions here?

I agree, it is difficult to differentiate between someone who is addicted and someone who gambles only to fill their spare time, because what they do is exactly the same, but what is different is how their mindset works as you said. This difference is normal because each person will of course have different thoughts and perceptions about the gambling they do, and those who are addicted are people who have the wrong perception about gambling where they tend to think that gambling is a means of making money, even though it is not. easy and uncertain too.
with those who have the wrong perception about gambling, of course they will not easily get rid of their desire to gamble, because they want to gamble to make money, so even though they have lost, it is likely that they will continue to bet to get the win they want, even though when they win The winnings are sometimes not equivalent to the money you have lost due to excessive gambling.

     -     Currently, in our country, we have a lot of desperate people who gamble on online casino money, including liars, online casino promoters, and scatters they promote.

I was just a little disappointed with the government administration where gambling online became acute. I just can't imagine that even in YouTube ads, the promotion of influencers of online casinos is also exposed to fraud and lying. So this is no longer good for our society.

Have you seen many addicted recently? I dont think there are many. Probably each casino has that one or two "crazy customer", who supposed to be addicted. And have an army of default customers. People dont like to lose, that is why I dont believe that many continue gambling after loosing. That is why I dont think that many are addicted to gambling. Many dont return and continue after some money are lost. Imho, after series of losses people get disappointed in gambling, get greedy for money and dont continue. That is why I dont get why so many mention addiction.

Basically, ordinary people understand the entire industry very superficially. If someone said that gambling is bad, he will think that it is bad without going into details. And if a person is really interested in how the gambling industry works in his country, then he will find information and statistics and will understand that the tax portion is a very impressive amount and this money goes to the budget of the country or city, which is good. And there will always be dependents in everything, in almost any industry.

Yes, that's the thing.

For an external observer, a gambler that is addicted and another one that is just having a single game look very similar.

The difference happens inside their brains, one of them is able to stop playing and go home whereas the other one stays all night gambling until their money runs out.

When they playing gambling, they will not thinks about bad or wrong because they gets tempts from gambling and makes them playing gambling more often that they thinks. If those society can't use gambling as entertainment, they will become addicted to gambling and that means many people will have the same problem which needs to be solve immediately. That will gives a bad effect to other people in that society because they can gets the effect and can enter to gambling easily because of the effect.

We know that gambling can gives benefit to the country such as as taxes that can be used to developing the country. But government must thinks about the problem behind that which is gambling addiction that can happens to the society. It needs awareness from the society to be careful when they like playing gambling so they must take care each other and reminds every people in that society not to becomes addicted to gambling.

A person who is addicted to gambling will not show his addiction to the outside community, but of course other people will find out for themselves whether it is from news circulating by word of mouth or indeed by seeing behavior that tends to change, those who are addicted to gambling will usually be more often spends more money than usual and of course this will attract the attention of other people, because when he gambles there are usually transactions with each other. and of course it is the fault of each individual, gambling is not completely bad but the many eyes that see and judge gambling are bad because they see many people who are addicted and experiencing the bad effects of gambling addiction.
Even though they are addicted, they will feel like there is no problem, as if everything is fine, even though in fact they are experiencing financial problems caused by gambling which has made them addicted, but this is also based on the individual's own behavior and mistakes. So even though they already know the risks, they still continue to gamble because maybe it's the desire to win that continues to drive them.

The thing is that there are habit and actions are more visible than your normal regular gambler so the society takes note and hold that part account for gambling on a larger view. Gambling has so many positives but these actions of gambling addict have completely overshadowed the good that people might see out of gambling but some persons are all on that conclusion because of religious clause too.

Very often people have a bias towards that what is bad or wrong about something, in this case gambling attracts a lot of attention due to those that get addicted, but addicted gamblers are only a very small proportion of all the gamblers that exist, and when we take into accounts all the benefits it provides, like taxes, jobs and entertainment, then it is a huge mistake to even think about banning it, as it is not as if by doing this addicted gamblers will disappear.

I don't agree with that, what I mean is that I doubt there would be a casino like that. I don't think casinos will give directions or warnings about gambling addiction, they just want to welcome the arrival of customers who want to gamble by welcoming them in a friendly manner to make them comfortable, after all, before they gamble, I think they already understand that gambling involves money or assets. others will lose or increase, it is impossible for them to want to gamble but don't know that gambling involves money. For example, if they want to gamble and come to a casino and the casino staff tells them that gambling with money or for money is dangerous, I think this will only result in lost customers and no profit for them.

with the many cases that have occurred and even the news that has spread, I think it is impossible for you yourself to have never seen news about cases of the bad effects of excessive gambling, perhaps outside of the news you have seen quite a few cases of gambling addiction that have destroyed someone's life. I think that there are already plenty of examples of players who can't control themselves well, what we need to look for more are examples of people who can control themselves well so that we can make people aware of the many people who gamble excessively.

There can never be a perfect template to this issue of gambling because not all addicted gambler started off an addict, some of them were really good gamblers who later got addicted when they their appetite got increased that they want to jus be at the top of the game, they started craving much more than they had always gotten and when they were no longer able to put that under control, they got addicted.

Some persons did started off nicely, so its very possible some may get to pass any of those test if such is been implemented and in the long run they get to become relay terrible at it and then become bad gamblers so i think what will be better is a rule that helps gamblers keep them in check such that they always have not to be in the position where they gamble with their emotions rightly and when they are sensed to be doing other wise, an automatic restriction is been triggered.

As we all realize, it is impossible to ban gambling when any schoolchild knows how to use tools to bypass Internet blocking. And as I have already said many times, if the authorities completely ban something, this sphere simply goes into the shadows and is controlled by organized crime. The authorities understand that in this case they will lose part of the taxes, which will be used to strengthen organized crime. That is why many states do not introduce a complete ban on gambling, although they do not support this sphere of entertainment. It is better to sell licenses and receive taxes than to allocate funds and hire people to control the same sphere.

Again addiction. Here, I have been trying to get other reason why gambling is bad for years already. Despite addiction, people cant name anything.  But to become addicted to gambling, gambler must put large effort. I dont know how to prove it, and if there is a real proof, but not every gambler is addicted. That is why I dont see addiction as a serious reason why gambling is bad. It is like Coca Cola from the world of beverages. Everyone knows its has a lot of sugar, science proved that people get fat from it, yet people still drink it and find it ok. Nobody claim that Cola is bad for society.

Therefore, I believe that it would be correct if the casino provided the player with a test before allowing the gambler to gamble. This should be a simple test, where the casino will warn you that you need to understand that gambling for money is very dangerous and you should always maintain self-control.  
And there should also be several examples of those players who could not cope with self-control.

That's normal to see how negatively gambling affects society because they see many people can't avoids gambling addiction when they know gambling. From one person who playing gambling with his friend, asks to other friends to joins with both of them. That makes those three people becomes often playing gambling and start to asks other people around their circle to join to playing gambling. One person who addicted to gambling can affect to other people and makes other people have the same problem too.

We can't deny that gambling can bring additional incomes to the country and develop to the better. But the affect of gambling is too big for those who don't have self control and other things so they becomes gambling addiction. It needs to aware by people so they must control themselves when playing gambling so they will not gets the bad effect of gambling. People needs to stay away from gambling addiction and find out how to prevents gambling addiction so they can playing gambling without worry if they will becomes addicted to gambling.

Gambling is a registered business, they are liable to pay taxes to the government and not solely the individuals.

Now a popular notion which is well agreed with is that, majority of gamblers do loss eventually. That’s almost evident in everyday life of a gambler and as such, demanding taxes on their wins just seems out of place. I wouldn’t know how it’s done in most nations but out here where am from, you don’t.

However, should you win from gambling, you do pay VAT in the products you patronize and that’s a plus to the economy.

One very much ignored benefit that is derived from gambling is the fact that, it gives hope to the common man. I guess you see an unsettled bet and you’re filled with expectations and beliefs that, you could win that money some day. It’s this belief that makes you even gamble the next day after a loss. That’s a plus as, it stirs some individuals in the society away from societal ills.

About the harms of abuse. Yes, I totally agree with that. Gambling is good for society overall, let's not forget that. If gambling will be banned, millions of people that are accustomed to relaxing with gambling will be trying to find other ways of relaxation, and some of those way can very dangerous.


Why are you saying this? Don't you know that the governments usually tax anything they can and as much as they can just to make more money for themselves? They don't care whether it's harmful for society like alcohol, or it's absolutely harmless like some soft drinks. They care only about the money they can get from it.

What benefits are received in terms of taxes when gambling?

I guess it depends on the country, but assuming you don't pay taxes on earning, then it's just fair enough as the expected return is negative. Might as well get something out of that risky venture.

On the flipside, you cannot claim any losses for capital tax, so there's that as well, which is the most probable outcome anyway.

If you lose money in an investment you can claim a capital loss and balance it out with a win, also a benefit for taxes.

Many religious communities are against gambling, and in some religions gambling is even considered one of the worst sins, so a large percentage of the population considers this area of entertainment problematic for society. As I said before, the problems are caused by individuals who discredit gambling by their behavior. In my opinion, the question of how negatively gambling affects society will be open as long as gambling exists, so we will never find an answer to it.