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Quote from: o48o on July 07, 2024, 07:50:05 PM

Taxation of casinos might not affect people directly, but indirectly they make a huge contribution to society and people. As it's not like casinos, or gamblers in casinos would need to be the major tax payers. Taxes help countries and their citizens no matter if one believes them or not. Without them countries would most likely fail.

Casinos get tax and alot of them do pay without breaking the law. The casions in my area also helps to sponsor some community projects that helps the people of our community to get jobs and other assistance. Casino are adding to the society and gambling is not bad for the society. There are more gamblers that are not addicted than those that are addicted therefore gambling should not be a problem for trh society regardless of the quantity of people's that are gambling in the society and if the people there are making money from gambling then it will give the society more people that are rich and a rich environment is going to improve the living standards of the community. If a society notice that the rate of gambling addicts is increasing, they can organize reach out programs that they bring together all those affected and help them to recover while they teach others the results of exceeding your limits when gambling and becoming an addict.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 16, 2024, 02:56:07 AM

From this topic we get that gambling isnt bad for society, only individuals get serious problems with it, only some get really addicted. Turns out that is actually gives benefits for society in form of taxes and variety of entertainment. And somehow people consider it is as bad, something to be ashamed of, and to avoid people who gamble. Dont you find it strange? Cheesy

The fact that gambling brings benefits in the form of taxes and a variety of entertainment are just some positive factors, but if you look at all this from above, then these are small advantages, while many develop a severe addiction that they have to fight, possibly for the rest of their lives. because it might come back again. Therefore, if we talk about society in general and whether it is good or bad, then I will not find a definite answer. Perhaps if you imagine the balance, the bad ones may outweigh, but not by a large number.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 09, 2024, 02:55:20 AM

Quote from: Coyster on July 02, 2024, 04:25:36 PM

I don't see anything wrong in gambling, but that is my own opinion and it does not have to be the same for others. The bookmakers are doing their business, they don't force people to gamble and they also put out the age limit/restriction for gamblers, to make sure that only adults (who are able to make decisions themselves) gamble. If you gamble responsibly, you'll not have any problems, just like when you drink responsibly, or are we also going to say alcohol is bad for the society?

Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling.

In fact, both have different risks, depending on where you live, maybe people who have rational thinking might be able to control themselves when playing, but for people who are new to gambling, they are the target of gambling sites, so that's why the impact of gambling cases. It can be big if you can control yourself, just like addicts, of course there are those who can control themselves, there are also those who don't, there are those who use alcohol as their daily drink, of course for western people consuming alcohol is normal but it is different for people in the east, everyone depending on the place and where we live and the habits and traditions of each place have different prohibitions.

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From this topic we get that gambling isnt bad for society, only individuals get serious problems with it, only some get really addicted. Turns out that is actually gives benefits for society in form of taxes and variety of entertainment. And somehow people consider it is as bad, something to be ashamed of, and to avoid people who gamble. Dont you find it strange? Cheesy

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 09, 2024, 05:57:03 AM

In my opinion, neither alcohol nor gambling is harmful to society because the harm is caused by individuals who abuse alcohol, gambling or other recreational activities. Instead of banning gambling, alcohol and everything that can lead to problems when abused, we need to devote more time and resources to informing uneducated people about the harms of alcohol, the risks of gambling and teaching financial literacy, because the more educated a person is, the less likely he or she will bring harm to society.

Indeed, the problem lies with each individual themselves because if they already know that something is not good then they should not do it or do it but within set limits. Another question may be whether they can gamble healthily or not. If you say that gambling is bad for society, I don't think so, because for those who have good thoughts, they gamble for entertainment, which is to relieve stress, and the good thing is that they can control themselves well, by not doing it excessively, whether it's gambling or alcohol.

In general, we as humans of course have to help and remind each other, I myself often remind my friends who gamble not to do it excessively because it can get them into serious trouble, but have you ever felt annoyed when you often advise them but don't is there a change, as if the advice we give is useless?
I myself have experienced this, so what I did was let him continue to fall deeper into gambling, and maybe it was destruction that would make him realize it.

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Quote from: Weawant on July 12, 2024, 07:30:05 PM

In as much as gambling has been really beneficial to the society, there have been reports of how gambling has caused issues amongst people in the society, and in situations where the government isn't able to handle it totally, they literally have to suffer the decedenac it beings on thw society. This has led to the restrictions placed by many governments on gambling because they are trying to not be in a situation they will have to suffer same with their citizens and not been able to handle it probably because they don't have the facilities to take care of any of such as at the time. But then if they are sure they can handle situations that c a result from gambling, they can rather permit it and get revenue taxing casinos.

It is true that a lot of gambling makes people miserable, but actually gambling is not bad if it is done responsibly, if you do it within reasonable limits then there will be no problems such as greater losses or even the destruction of their relationship with their own family. gambling that is prohibited in a country will not be able to completely limit this, even though gambling is prohibited in that country but with the development of the internet today it makes everything easy to do, including online gambling, which has more and more platforms.
It doesn't matter if they can do it well by doing it just for entertainment or having fun, but many of them experience problems because they gamble because they do it excessively because the aim of the gambling they do is to make money while the winnings are It's not easy to win in gambling, even if they use a strategy or pattern, it doesn't guarantee they can win with certainty.

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Quote from: Weawant on July 12, 2024, 07:30:05 PM

Quote from: South Park on July 06, 2024, 04:15:55 PM

Besides even if a small number of people do not use casinos for their stated purpose, try to beat them and then lose a lot of money because of their decision, gambling as a whole is beneficial to society, so it has been a mistake by governments to try to ban gambling thought the years, when a simple regulation is all what is needed for them to enjoy the benefits that gambling brings, so despite all what it is being said and done, casinos should be allowed to remain in business.

In as much as gambling has been really beneficial to the society, there have been reports of how gambling has caused issues amongst people in the society, and in situations where the government isn't able to handle it totally, they literally have to suffer the decedenac it beings on thw society. This has led to the restrictions placed by many governments on gambling because they are trying to not be in a situation they will have to suffer same with their citizens and not been able to handle it probably because they don't have the facilities to take care of any of such as at the time. But then if they are sure they can handle situations that c a result from gambling, they can rather permit it and get revenue taxing casinos.

one of the good sides is that the government would have more money
but the government is formed mostly by stupid people that have no idea of what they're doing so even this ends up being a bad thing too
I don't know... we can find some good things but as I mentioned before I think there are more bad things than good ones...

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Quote from: South Park on July 06, 2024, 04:15:55 PM

Besides even if a small number of people do not use casinos for their stated purpose, try to beat them and then lose a lot of money because of their decision, gambling as a whole is beneficial to society, so it has been a mistake by governments to try to ban gambling thought the years, when a simple regulation is all what is needed for them to enjoy the benefits that gambling brings, so despite all what it is being said and done, casinos should be allowed to remain in business.

In as much as gambling has been really beneficial to the society, there have been reports of how gambling has caused issues amongst people in the society, and in situations where the government isn't able to handle it totally, they literally have to suffer the decedenac it beings on thw society. This has led to the restrictions placed by many governments on gambling because they are trying to not be in a situation they will have to suffer same with their citizens and not been able to handle it probably because they don't have the facilities to take care of any of such as at the time. But then if they are sure they can handle situations that c a result from gambling, they can rather permit it and get revenue taxing casinos.

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Quote from: nullama on July 09, 2024, 08:34:22 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 09, 2024, 02:55:20 AM

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Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling.

If gambling has such a null effect on society, it would definitely not be taxed like it is wherever it is legalized.

There is clearly a negative impact of gambling in many people, maybe not you or your friends, but you just need to read a bit and you'll realize that it is quite devastating financially for a lot of people.

People end up killing themselves after losing their whole life savings in a matter of hours.

You can't say that is not a negative in society.

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I think that if you put it in a scale the net of gambling will be negative (negative with more weight than the positive side of it)
but we don't really have a way to know.

maybe this subject is worth a thread by itself.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 09, 2024, 05:57:03 AM

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Quote from: Coyster on July 02, 2024, 04:25:36 PM

I don't see anything wrong in gambling, but that is my own opinion and it does not have to be the same for others. The bookmakers are doing their business, they don't force people to gamble and they also put out the age limit/restriction for gamblers, to make sure that only adults (who are able to make decisions themselves) gamble. If you gamble responsibly, you'll not have any problems, just like when you drink responsibly, or are we also going to say alcohol is bad for the society?

Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling.

In my opinion, neither alcohol nor gambling is harmful to society because the harm is caused by individuals who abuse alcohol, gambling or other recreational activities. Instead of banning gambling, alcohol and everything that can lead to problems when abused, we need to devote more time and resources to informing uneducated people about the harms of alcohol, the risks of gambling and teaching financial literacy, because the more educated a person is, the less likely he or she will bring harm to society.

So that's the main point, friend, what triggers the problem in any case is always because of the intention and action of "abusing", because of course in any case, whether it's alcohol or gambling, of course it can have a bad impact when we do it or consume it excessively.

And if we look at it from another point of view, there is actually a positive side to both of these things that we can take advantage of, namely that gambling can fill our free time when we have boring free time, provided we know the limits or should not overdo it, and also alcohol can make We feel calm or calm our minds when we are experiencing various problems that make us depressed, provided that we only consume it in moderation. And I think if we can all use common sense and our mindset well in the sense of looking at everything rationally and making considerations before doing it then we will know the best decisions to make.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 09, 2024, 02:55:20 AM

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Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling.

If gambling has such a null effect on society, it would definitely not be taxed like it is wherever it is legalized.

There is clearly a negative impact of gambling in many people, maybe not you or your friends, but you just need to read a bit and you'll realize that it is quite devastating financially for a lot of people.

People end up killing themselves after losing their whole life savings in a matter of hours.

You can't say that is not a negative in society.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 09, 2024, 02:55:20 AM

Quote from: Coyster on July 02, 2024, 04:25:36 PM

I don't see anything wrong in gambling, but that is my own opinion and it does not have to be the same for others. The bookmakers are doing their business, they don't force people to gamble and they also put out the age limit/restriction for gamblers, to make sure that only adults (who are able to make decisions themselves) gamble. If you gamble responsibly, you'll not have any problems, just like when you drink responsibly, or are we also going to say alcohol is bad for the society?

Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling.

In my opinion, neither alcohol nor gambling is harmful to society because the harm is caused by individuals who abuse alcohol, gambling or other recreational activities. Instead of banning gambling, alcohol and everything that can lead to problems when abused, we need to devote more time and resources to informing uneducated people about the harms of alcohol, the risks of gambling and teaching financial literacy, because the more educated a person is, the less likely he or she will bring harm to society.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on July 07, 2024, 06:49:32 PM

Quote from: Judith87403 on July 03, 2024, 02:07:54 AM

Actually I think the answer is no" depending on how you go about it if you're a responsible gambler definitely it won't affect you in any way is only when someone is addicted to gambling that's when we can consider it bad to the society.

I don't think this kind of question deserves a direct answer like this; everything that has an advantage will definitely have a disadvantage too. All that matters is how the person who is associated with it treats and handles it in the first place.

If a society is filled with those who are easily addicted to gambling, we can say that gambling has a negative impact on that society, but if the people who are gambling in that area are just doing it and at the same time having social interaction, we can see it as something that has contributed positively to that society.

How the people in that society handle gambling will determine the kind of picture they will have for gambling.

This is true because for some this may be their only social interaction due to health problems. The community of players can become friends who will help with advice and support in difficult situations. I myself am a member of some communities of interest and I know how important it is for support and development in a certain area. Naturally, there are players who will lose a lot of their money, I myself was like that when I started playing gambling games, but we need to gradually improve our skills and improve our knowledge all the time, then we can learn to limit our losses and the game will no longer become very bad for us. In addition to losses, you need to be able to find positive sides yourself.

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Quote from: Coyster on July 02, 2024, 04:25:36 PM

I don't see anything wrong in gambling, but that is my own opinion and it does not have to be the same for others. The bookmakers are doing their business, they don't force people to gamble and they also put out the age limit/restriction for gamblers, to make sure that only adults (who are able to make decisions themselves) gamble. If you gamble responsibly, you'll not have any problems, just like when you drink responsibly, or are we also going to say alcohol is bad for the society?

Gambling isn't bad for society. Period. Indeed, like you said, if you gamble responsibly there's no problems whatsoever, and most people engaged with gambling are gambling responsibly. If gambling were bad for society, it would be banned everywhere long time ago and by this point we wouldn't even know what gambling is. Since you mentioned alcohol, I'll add that in my opinion, alcohol is much bigger problem for society than gambling.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on July 04, 2024, 02:39:26 PM

One of the reasons why gambling is legal in some countries is because maybe casinos pay taxes which benefits the government, but something that benefits the government does not mean it makes the people prosperous, and I think there is no other better solution than making gambling illegal in the country. This is if the government really wants its people to avoid various bad disasters caused by gambling.
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Taxation of casinos might not affect people directly, but indirectly they make a huge contribution to society and people. As it's not like casinos, or gamblers in casinos would need to be the major tax payers. Taxes help countries and their citizens no matter if one believes them or not. Without them countries would most likely fail. There are few exceptions, but those places are mostly for rich people. Corruption is wild in them, as there's no reason not to have it. You don't want to be poor and live in those countries from all the places.

Imho other problems can be fixed via regulation so countries can benefit from them. Making casinos illegal wouldn't serve anyone.

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Quote from: Weawant on July 07, 2024, 06:24:33 PM

Quote from: South Park on July 06, 2024, 04:15:55 PM

Besides even if a small number of people do not use casinos for their stated purpose, try to beat them and then lose a lot of money because of their decision, gambling as a whole is beneficial to society, so it has been a mistake by governments to try to ban gambling thought the years, when a simple regulation is all what is needed for them to enjoy the benefits that gambling brings, so despite all what it is being said and done, casinos should be allowed to remain in business.

The chances that every attempt to stop or ban gambling will fail is very high because even in places where gambling is prohibited, people still find a way around it because they gamble for several reasons, one of which is for them to be able have fun and the other, for them to be able to make money because they literally get to make money from gambling so such opportunity is one which gamblers wouldn't want to jeopardize even when they are Restricted. It will be more achievable if the casinos are regulated and the government get to tax them and probably generates funds from there.

Such an attempt is surely a waste of time because gambling is no longer just an ordinary it is now considered as one of the main revenue streams of the government. Those who dream of banning gambling should refrain from attempting this. Manage gambling by keeping yourself under control or stop gambling if it seems harmful to you. If you shut down one gambling company there are many others that you cannot shut down either. Moreover, if the government receives revenue, it is never possible to stop it. And if the government makes any announcement to stop gambling for any reason, it will also be a suicidal decision for it because it will lose revenue and gamblers will indulge in gambling sites of other countries which cannot be controlled by it.

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Quote from: Judith87403 on July 03, 2024, 02:07:54 AM

Actually I think the answer is no" depending on how you go about it if you're a responsible gambler definitely it won't affect you in any way is only when someone is addicted to gambling that's when we can consider it bad to the society.

I don't think this kind of question deserves a direct answer like this; everything that has an advantage will definitely have a disadvantage too. All that matters is how the person who is associated with it treats and handles it in the first place.

If a society is filled with those who are easily addicted to gambling, we can say that gambling has a negative impact on that society, but if the people who are gambling in that area are just doing it and at the same time having social interaction, we can see it as something that has contributed positively to that society.

How the people in that society handle gambling will determine the kind of picture they will have for gambling.

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Quote from: South Park on July 06, 2024, 04:15:55 PM

Besides even if a small number of people do not use casinos for their stated purpose, try to beat them and then lose a lot of money because of their decision, gambling as a whole is beneficial to society, so it has been a mistake by governments to try to ban gambling thought the years, when a simple regulation is all what is needed for them to enjoy the benefits that gambling brings, so despite all what it is being said and done, casinos should be allowed to remain in business.

The chances that every attempt to stop or ban gambling will fail is very high because even in places where gambling is prohibited, people still find a way around it because they gamble for several reasons, one of which is for them to be able have fun and the other, for them to be able to make money because they literally get to make money from gambling so such opportunity is one which gamblers wouldn't want to jeopardize even when they are Restricted. It will be more achievable if the casinos are regulated and the government get to tax them and probably generates funds from there.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on July 04, 2024, 02:39:37 PM

don't you know that there is some countries that does not accept to gambling even till today gambling does not exist in such country they only operate illegally but based on internet and Influence recently that makes gambling to be widely known, so from my understanding of gambling some countries still restricting some persons of gambling mostly people who is not up to eighteen years is not allowed to participate in gambling, but the way we are taking things now in some countries young youths who is not up to age is now involving in gambling, so many countries has not legalized gambling as am speaking with you right now.

Yes, in fact it is like that, in my country gambling was banned for 20 years, the only way I could play was online, and at that time online casinos didn't have as many restrictions as they do now, there was no need for KYC, everything was easier and it didn't really affect me at all that things were so paralyzed, obviously there were sites that operated illegally, even so I went to many, even though it was dangerous I went because it's what I like, I think all those things make one irreverent towards governments that in the end ban them for other things and use the excuses of people's addiction.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on July 04, 2024, 02:39:37 PM

Quote from: HelliumZ on July 04, 2024, 11:50:15 AM

There is nothing to do if it harms society because gambling is legal in many countries around the world. Gambling would not have been legalized in many countries of the world if there had been a huge social damage. Because gambling can have a bad effect on a person as a whole if the person takes gambling badly. There are many people who torture their families to manage their gambling money. In this case, you can't directly blame gambling because that person has been negatively affected by gambling. If the person had a positive attitude toward gambling, the family might not have abused gambling money to manage it.

don't you know that there is some countries that does not accept to gambling even till today gambling does not exist in such country they only operate illegally but based on internet and Influence recently that makes gambling to be widely known, so from my understanding of gambling some countries still restricting some persons of gambling mostly people who is not up to eighteen years is not allowed to participate in gambling, but the way we are taking things now in some countries young youths who is not up to age is now involving in gambling, so many countries has not legalized gambling as am speaking with you right now.

If we do speak about legality then it would really be that different into each country when it comes into this aspect on which there are corners of the world on which allows gambling and there are ones which aren't been able to accept such thing. This is why it would really be that not just right on making up some conclusions but its true that despite of such prohibition then you would really be able to find up places which do make things illegally and just like on what you had pointed out above which is definitely true. For those people who are really that fond on dealing up with gambling then they would really be reconsidering on going into these places despite of such prohibition even if it means that they are risking on being caught. Gambling isnt bad to society, it is really just that turns out to be bad
just because of those wrong doing or decisions made up by gamblers and thats why they do mess up their lives.

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