Is gambling bad to the society? - page 23.

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Quote from: erep on July 01, 2024, 01:08:44 PM

Quote from: madnessteat on July 01, 2024, 12:41:55 PM

Consider gambling as a business can only be their owner, because for customers gambling is entertainment for which you have to pay. Any sensible person should realize that no one will not provide you with any services for free and gambling is no exception. Hence it is easy to conclude that in the long run you are likely to lose to a casino or bookmaker's office. By the way, this can also be understood by looking at the maximum return to the player provides a gambling site.

That's the point, we only use entertainment services that must be paid to the casino owner so don't expect you to have high profits because the casino owner wants our money, if we know this point then don't budget high funds for gambling because you can lose funds in betting, so we should gamble only for entertainment and consider the budget only to pay for casino services and do not expect high profits because these opportunities are only obtained when luck comes on certain bets.

The possibility that you can make a big score is still there, which is why gambling attracts so many people. Each of us in the depths of our hearts hope that the next lucky one will be him. But as you rightly noted do not put on gambling great expectations. First of all, it will not only save your mental health when you lose, but also get a real pleasure from winning, which you were not expecting.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on July 01, 2024, 06:45:21 PM

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 01, 2024, 05:12:54 PM

Do you know that their is some people who is addicted in gambling but what they have achieved because they addicted to gambling the person that uses calculations to participate in gambling have not ever achieved, our problems is that we always think of negative side of gambling and fail to understand the basics things that have to do with gambling, so therefore you have to understand that, to be addicted in business is not good? And someone who gambling is a source of generating income will not take chances of be addicted in gambling..what's this addiction means, it simply mean committed and been curious in whatever you are doing. So I have not anything bad of someone be addicted in gambling.

I’m sorry but I strongly disagree with you. You took everything out of context. Addiction is not the same as being committed in business. The key difference between the two is the lack of self control and inability to quit even when you know that thing is affecting you negatively. If you really do not see a problem in gambling addiction, then you really should visit a rehab center or support group meetings for addicted gamblers who are trying to find their way out of addiction. You will hear their stories firsthand and understand just how gambling addiction can ruin lives.

It's your personal suggestion, yes it's good to disagree with me because it's the way you comprehend it, from your basic way of understanding addiction, what does it mean ordinarily, addiction is something you take over serious in which others will think that you have been carried aways with it, but I'm strongly telling you that their nothing bad to be addicted in aspects of gambling, unless you find it disgusting and unreliable be addicted in gambling, been addicted in anything you're doing doesn't give you room to have mental disorder, because so many of you is seeing it in such perspective which not ideal from my observation...gambling is a choice and gambling consistently is another choice we choose in gambling, but many of you doesn't understand that gambling is luck and your consistent gambling can bring you a Goodluck to win what you have not expected to win.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on June 24, 2024, 07:40:45 AM

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In the end, it also depends on the person who is gambling because after all, for now we cannot rule it out but on the other hand, almost everyone who is in gambling must feel the same way where when we gamble, it will indeed become a dopamine that makes us like addicted again and again to gambling because in accordance with other discussions where gambling is very unique in terms of the nature that makes us feel like we are missing something if we don't do it.

There are many things about which we feel that are missing them if we don't do them. For example, watching your favourite TV series, meeting your friends, baking a pie ... but are those things bad to the society? No. You can make them bad through some twisted way, like are making gambling bad through overusing it, but the things themselves aren't bad.

Quote from: topbitcoin on June 24, 2024, 07:40:45 AM

The only thing wrong with this is expecting more from gambling as we are now discussing that not a few people think that gambling can make them get a big profit which is of course very regrettable in the end.
We can't deny that most of us who are here are gamblers but the difference is how much self-control we have and everyone's perspective on gambling that makes this different because not a few who are here also consider that gambling is a means to enrich themselves when it is a situation that is naive.

You pretty much said it, indeed, the difference in the ability to make yourself stop the game when you feel you need tho do that.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on July 01, 2024, 05:01:59 PM

Normally gambling was meant to be fun inform of an entertainment... but these days I think it's beign use completely for a different motive and since it involves money... it's getting more additiction day by day .
Normally, Every form of Games can bring about addiction if there's no caution taken by the player towards engaging it , gambling is a form of gaming that involves betting so addiction is very possible, to escape addiction same rule is required which is caution towards engagement

Still, gambling is much better than any other “entertainment”. There are many bad people who have replaced their addictions with gambling. Therefore, I only see this as a plus. A kind of panacea for a society that has completely lost the meaning of existence or has completely gone off the rails. Let them spend their time this way rather than go and do bad things.

The casino is a kind of outlet and a way to satisfy and measure the dark desires of people. There is no need to deprive them of this. If prohibited or taken away, it will lead to sad consequences.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on July 01, 2024, 05:01:59 PM

Normally gambling was meant to be fun inform of an entertainment... but these days I think it's beign use completely for a different motive and since it involves money... it's getting more additiction day by day .
Normally, Every form of Games can bring about addiction if there's no caution taken by the player towards engaging it , gambling is a form of gaming that involves betting so addiction is very possible, to escape addiction same rule is required which is caution towards engagement

Indeed, gambling is basically a means of entertainment, but many people misunderstand their understanding of gambling. where they forget that, they often gamble as a sure way to make money until they forget that gambling is just a means for entertainment and that's because maybe they are addicted to gambling to the point where they lose consciousness in gambling which makes them have wrong thoughts. against gambling. Even their initial motive for gambling was entertainment, but because they were addicted, their gambling motives were different, but this difference only made them experience problems.
What you say is true, especially in gambling, there is a win that can be obtained if you are lucky and they don't see that the win is like that, they often see that the win is certain to be obtained by gambling. Of course, thinking like that makes them very vulnerable to addiction because their focus is actually endangering themselves.

It is absolutely true that gambling games were created precisely to entertain people and not to ruin their lives. I can't even imagine how generous casinos used to be, before they started suing regulators in an attempt to minimize the number of winnings for gamblers. And unfortunately they did it.

Now in any casino, even very famous and large ones, a player can simply turn off access to the casino site if he is playing slots and his session is positive. It's a shame that casinos have degraded to such a level, and more and more money is being spent on their promotion, and not on giving players more to win.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 30, 2024, 10:12:06 AM

I am a person who has experienced casino bans in their country, and believe me when this happens, casinos and clandestine betting areas are created where people go and play, bet and everything is normal, all very hidden, and the governments do not want to prosper, no, that is a big lie, it is something that they make us believe, the governments only care about the benefit that they can get, when Something does not suit them, an Activity begins to say all kinds of things like that , to Protect , for something like that, but no, the governments are the ones that make us lose hope , they do not let us earn money and much less have fun.

Even those people experienced bans in their country, they will not stops from playing gambling. They will easily to finds hidden casino so they can keeps playing gambling without anyone knows. The underground casino will still exist and that will not easy to finds the place because people who played on that casino will not share the place to many people and only those who often playing gambling and that's their friends that will knows the place.

The government can still search for that underground place but they will difficult to knows the truth. So that's why the society must prevents if there is their people playing gambling, society must reminds not to closer to gambling because that can makes them in trouble. The government will asks every people in the society to finds the gamblers and a gambler itself can gets addicted to gambling. So when those people from that society wants to use gambling to make money, they will not gets that money easily because they will face many problems that they will difficult to solve.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on July 01, 2024, 05:01:59 PM

Normally gambling was meant to be fun inform of an entertainment... but these days I think it's beign use completely for a different motive and since it involves money... it's getting more additiction day by day .
Normally, Every form of Games can bring about addiction if there's no caution taken by the player towards engaging it , gambling is a form of gaming that involves betting so addiction is very possible, to escape addiction same rule is required which is caution towards engagement

Indeed, gambling is basically a means of entertainment, but many people misunderstand their understanding of gambling. where they forget that, they often gamble as a sure way to make money until they forget that gambling is just a means for entertainment and that's because maybe they are addicted to gambling to the point where they lose consciousness in gambling which makes them have wrong thoughts. against gambling. Even their initial motive for gambling was entertainment, but because they were addicted, their gambling motives were different, but this difference only made them experience problems.
What you say is true, especially in gambling, there is a win that can be obtained if you are lucky and they don't see that the win is like that, they often see that the win is certain to be obtained by gambling. Of course, thinking like that makes them very vulnerable to addiction because their focus is actually endangering themselves.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 01, 2024, 05:12:54 PM

Do you know that their is some people who is addicted in gambling but what they have achieved because they addicted to gambling the person that uses calculations to participate in gambling have not ever achieved, our problems is that we always think of negative side of gambling and fail to understand the basics things that have to do with gambling, so therefore you have to understand that, to be addicted in business is not good? And someone who gambling is a source of generating income will not take chances of be addicted in gambling..what's this addiction means, it simply mean committed and been curious in whatever you are doing. So I have not anything bad of someone be addicted in gambling.

I’m sorry but I strongly disagree with you. You took everything out of context. Addiction is not the same as being committed in business. The key difference between the two is the lack of self control and inability to quit even when you know that thing is affecting you negatively. If you really do not see a problem in gambling addiction, then you really should visit a rehab center or support group meetings for addicted gamblers who are trying to find their way out of addiction. You will hear their stories firsthand and understand just how gambling addiction can ruin lives.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on July 01, 2024, 05:01:59 PM

Normally gambling was meant to be fun inform of an entertainment... but these days I think it's beign use completely for a different motive and since it involves money... it's getting more additiction day by day .
Normally, Every form of Games can bring about addiction if there's no caution taken by the player towards engaging it , gambling is a form of gaming that involves betting so addiction is very possible, to escape addiction same rule is required which is caution towards engagement

Entertainment is everywhere in the space, we just have to stick to the current findings that sort ourselves and doubts. I often indulge in gambling but it doesn't mean I depend on it for survival, rather I've a good paying job and often anticipate in gambling for fun, nothing more. Gambling becomes a stream of income for the vast majority of gamblers in the space. We've come to realized how gambling have dismantled the life's of most these gamblers, because most of them becomes addicted and we clearly understand the clear picture that follows.

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Quote from: Antotena on July 01, 2024, 04:45:05 PM

Quote from: DaNNy001 on July 01, 2024, 07:14:21 AM

Being addicted to something is very dangerous because without you knowing that thing is indirectly your God and you are by all means a servant of that thing and that's why gambler don't tend to know themselves whenever their master calls them which is the habit they are addicted to and most of them do get all violent when they can't seem to have access to that same cause of the addiction.

Gambling addiction is very bad in the sense that you don't see the joy in gambling anymore. What you see is ways to get money and how to recover from money in gambling, the only thing that matters to you is trying to reach a full potential of making money in gambling and not the fun nor entertainment and the more you gamble for addiction, the more you lose more money continuesly because most time, you even lack the strategy to win games while gambling.

The people that are gambling addicted and sick because of gambling today are the product of what the society produced today. The society idolized money over anything and yet they want to blame another thing for people trying to look for that money the society respected and refused to provide opportunities for the addicted gamblers they are complaining about and if we refused to address these problems in places where there is no job opportunities, the more enabling gambling environments we grow bigger.

Do you know that their is some people who is addicted in gambling but what they have achieved because they addicted to gambling the person that uses calculations to participate in gambling have not ever achieved, our problems is that we always think of negative side of gambling and fail to understand the basics things that have to do with gambling, so therefore you have to understand that, to be addicted in business is not good? And someone who gambling is a source of generating income will not take chances of be addicted in gambling..what's this addiction means, it simply mean committed and been curious in whatever you are doing. So I have not anything bad of someone be addicted in gambling.

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Quote from: Antotena on July 01, 2024, 04:45:05 PM

Quote from: DaNNy001 on July 01, 2024, 07:14:21 AM

Being addicted to something is very dangerous because without you knowing that thing is indirectly your God and you are by all means a servant of that thing and that's why gambler don't tend to know themselves whenever their master calls them which is the habit they are addicted to and most of them do get all violent when they can't seem to have access to that same cause of the addiction.

Gambling addiction is very bad in the sense that you don't see the joy in gambling anymore. What you see is ways to get money and how to recover from money in gambling, the only thing that matters to you is trying to reach a full potential of making money in gambling and not the fun nor entertainment and the more you gamble for addiction, the more you lose more money continuesly because most time, you even lack the strategy to win games while gambling.

The people that are gambling addicted and sick because of gambling today are the product of what the society produced today. The society idolized money over anything and yet they want to blame another thing for people trying to look for that money the society respected and refused to provide opportunities for the addicted gamblers they are complaining about and if we refused to address these problems in places where there is no job opportunities, the more enabling gambling environments we grow bigger.

Normally gambling was meant to be fun inform of an entertainment... but these days I think it's beign use completely for a different motive and since it involves money... it's getting more additiction day by day .
Normally, Every form of Games can bring about addiction if there's no caution taken by the player towards engaging it , gambling is a form of gaming that involves betting so addiction is very possible, to escape addiction same rule is required which is caution towards engagement

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Advising any grown man to stay away from gambling is like telling a toddler to not lick a piece of candy, when they already know how good it taste.
Gambling has had an adverse influence on the society at large, but anyway , it's an unavoidable thing for people that make alot of money from it. The sweet thing about it is the idea of wagering with a dollar and winning a hundred or so.
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Quote from: Antotena on July 01, 2024, 04:45:05 PM

Gambling addiction is very bad in the sense that you don't see the joy in gambling anymore. What you see is ways to get money and how to recover from money in gambling[..]

You know how that's gonna end? Well, it doesn't have an end AFAIK.. if you seriously wanna quit, you'd have to look away. One of biggest lessons to learn is to not chase your loses no matter how possible that may look to you.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on July 01, 2024, 07:14:21 AM

Being addicted to something is very dangerous because without you knowing that thing is indirectly your God and you are by all means a servant of that thing and that's why gambler don't tend to know themselves whenever their master calls them which is the habit they are addicted to and most of them do get all violent when they can't seem to have access to that same cause of the addiction.

Gambling addiction is very bad in the sense that you don't see the joy in gambling anymore. What you see is ways to get money and how to recover from money in gambling, the only thing that matters to you is trying to reach a full potential of making money in gambling and not the fun nor entertainment and the more you gamble for addiction, the more you lose more money continuesly because most time, you even lack the strategy to win games while gambling.

The people that are gambling addicted and sick because of gambling today are the product of what the society produced today. The society idolized money over anything and yet they want to blame another thing for people trying to look for that money the society respected and refused to provide opportunities for the addicted gamblers they are complaining about and if we refused to address these problems in places where there is no job opportunities, the more enabling gambling environments we grow bigger.

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Talking about dopamine, does it mean that gambling wouldn't increase dopamine if money wasn't involved?Although the point of gambling would be worthless for not having any reward. Viewing the game as a means of earning or losing money is quite the natural appearance of gambling. And people can't forget it easily. That's why most players always think they'll lose money in gambling. This only makes them want to lose more, because they'll hardly stop a session after experiencing multiple losses. The current form of online gambling can slow down the understanding of gambling for an individual new player. We easily learn from associating with people on same boat with us. Playing all alone makes a player to have limited amount of knowledge or understanding of how gambling work.

But so far gambling is more often used as a choice when they have money to gamble, I understand that someone can still feel entertainment even if for example they don't win, but the opportunity to win in gambling is an additional point to be able to further increase the sensation and dopamine levels in the brain. In fact, as long as you or anyone else is able to treat gambling well based on correct understanding and without exceeding your limits then it won't be a problem, because so far the majority of cases of people who have lost significant amounts of money are those who don't understand. and realize that there is a much greater risk.

Gambling would have been nothing more than a game for kids if money wasn't attached. But, we all thought the entertainment was from the game, but this time money makes gambling entertaining. Despite how simple the slot game is, adults enjoy playing it because of money. People actually get stressed whenever money is involved. That's the thoughts of humans on money.

Players a times get those dopamine in form of a reward for sticking around in a machine for a while. And they are happy for it. More like completing a mission in a video game. I don't think of the type of entertaining trills that could match winning a game. But, players who gamble with friends actually stay entertained even when they've not won.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 01, 2024, 12:41:55 PM

Consider gambling as a business can only be their owner, because for customers gambling is entertainment for which you have to pay. Any sensible person should realize that no one will not provide you with any services for free and gambling is no exception. Hence it is easy to conclude that in the long run you are likely to lose to a casino or bookmaker's office. By the way, this can also be understood by looking at the maximum return to the player provides a gambling site.

That's the point, we only use entertainment services that must be paid to the casino owner so don't expect you to have high profits because the casino owner wants our money, if we know this point then don't budget high funds for gambling because you can lose funds in betting, so we should gamble only for entertainment and consider the budget only to pay for casino services and do not expect high profits because these opportunities are only obtained when luck comes on certain bets.

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Quote from: STT on June 30, 2024, 12:04:16 PM

Its not about losing money or winning, its the circulation of money between winners and losers. Attribution of risk is not exclusive to gambling, its right across a broad spectrum of the finance industry.

Insurance, finance, lending, investment are all about guessing the outcome of an unknown race usually in business but also natural circumstances and risk situations. None of those businesses are described as negative yet some want to label gambling as all negative.
Never gamble with money you cannot lose, beyond this simple rule you are free to play this game guilt free imo.

Gambling is socially harmful only when the majority of people in society suffer socially only because of gambling but for a few people the entire social structure of society is harmed. Gambling should not be held responsible for this.
Yes, but gambling can cause a lot of problems in a family, especially when it puts pressure on family members to manage gambling money. Violence against women and social strife is often seen as a result of gambling. However, reluctance to associate with a gambler's family in religious sentiments is also an important negative effect of socialization that occurs only because of gambling.

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The same happens in business, because very often a person cannot correctly predict the demand for the product or service he offers on the market.

I really like this approach, because I have seen trading and casino including sports betting in some way, what I have discovered until recently is that if trading and gaming are seen as a business then things are better, why? because the mistake of many players is that if they do not make much money then they are not happy, and I think that is wrong, but if you manage to find ways to win even if it is little, then it is better because little by little you fill your bag, that for me is one of the most logical ways to make money little by little, of course from time to time you can make compound interest bets starting from 5 usd, and so see up to 3 or 4 times and that's it, but that is already a more reckless strategy, but if you see gaming as a business with small profits then it is good.

Consider gambling as a business can only be their owner, because for customers gambling is entertainment for which you have to pay. Any sensible person should realize that no one will not provide you with any services for free and gambling is no exception. Hence it is easy to conclude that in the long run you are likely to lose to a casino or bookmaker's office. By the way, this can also be understood by looking at the maximum return to the player provides a gambling site.

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Quote from: shasan on June 30, 2024, 04:35:29 PM

It is common that maximum people in the gamble industry want to make more and more money within a short time while there happens a lot of abusing in various way which may make the person into a bad way which may effects not only on the life of the people but also in the life of others in the society.

Factually this is correct, this has been one of the reasons for the advocacy on rather gambling for fun than to earn money because in the end gambling is never sure but a 50/50 chances which makes it not dependable and can cause ruin in some cases. The extended effect of gambling addiction on some gamblers have been of great concerns and it have become something of a really difficult situation to handle because we cannot get some of them under actually control at some point and it turns out to become a problem to the society who ordinarily had almost no connection with such person

Getting rich quick has been the driving force behind some of the inappropriate behaviors and need to wanting to gamble recklessly and not putting to consideration the after effect of such on others around the gambler, most times they are only optimistic and never looking out for possible pessimism

Just like people are made to understand that drinking alcohol responsibly isn't a bad habit one's self and the society in general, you'll still see some people getting drunk and we all know the resulting effect of drunkards to themselves and the society in general so was how gambling was introduced for people to engage in it responsibly but the majority of gamblers chose to gamble with the sole aim of earning a living out of their gambling engagement which has made a lot of gamblers to become gambling addicts. It is because of the effect of gambling addiction to the addicted people and the society in general that made a lot of people in the society to see gambling as a bad habit that should be totally avoided by anyone who wants to succeed in life.
Many gamblers believe that they can get rich through gambling and that's what mostly fuels their desire to gamble which is why they tend to easily become addicted when they're not winning like they've initially expected

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Quote from: shasan on June 30, 2024, 04:35:29 PM

It is common that maximum people in the gamble industry want to make more and more money within a short time while there happens a lot of abusing in various way which may make the person into a bad way which may effects not only on the life of the people but also in the life of others in the society.

Factually this is correct, this has been one of the reasons for the advocacy on rather gambling for fun than to earn money because in the end gambling is never sure but a 50/50 chances which makes it not dependable and can cause ruin in some cases. The extended effect of gambling addiction on some gamblers have been of great concerns and it have become something of a really difficult situation to handle because we cannot get some of them under actually control at some point and it turns out to become a problem to the society who ordinarily had almost no connection with such person

Getting rich quick has been the driving force behind some of the inappropriate behaviors and need to wanting to gamble recklessly and not putting to consideration the after effect of such on others around the gambler, most times they are only optimistic and never looking out for possible pessimism

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I could say yes in the sense that there are alot gambling abuse, people approaching gambling the wrong way, it is only those who approaches gambling in terms of profits maximization or as a hustle to earn a living. There is no restrictions on how anyone can spend his or her money anyone can do whatever they like, what the government could have done is to organize a sensitization campaign program that will reduce the act of irresponsible gambling and it's negative effect which are too numerous to mention, if gambling itself where that bad I believed it wouldn't have been legalized which has given a certain level of freedom to the society generally.

It is common that maximum people in the gamble industry want to make more and more money within a short time while there happens a lot of abusing in various way which may make the person into a bad way which may effects not only on the life of the people but also in the life of others in the society.

Yes, gambling not only causes many consequences for the players themselves but also their families and society. Gambling is one of the potential causes of many negative consequences for society (such as debt, and mortgaging assets). Giving rise to many other crimes and violations of law such as "black credit" activities, fraud, robbery, robbery, property theft...

But even if we prohibit gambling, it won't help, Players also find ways to play. Gambling needs to be legalized. Potential economic benefits, including job creation and tourism development. I support expanding gambling activities with the potential to generate revenue for the government and tax casino income. Legalizing gambling and betting in a strict, thorough open, and determined way is probably something the government should care about because the people's needs are very great and real.

Ban gambling? Not the answer. It never was. Driving it underground poses extra issues. Regulation must be wise and sensible. Bring it outside so we can watch. Legal gambling can generate a lot of revenue for our communities, but this isnt just about making money. To defend individuals.

Rules, restrictions, protections are needed. Aid those in trouble. Its responsible leadership. Some say "investments are different than gambling!" Risk and reward, I tell you. You must know your way around the stock market and casinos. Must be smart and disciplined. The government steps in. Inform individuals, empower them to make decisions. Dont limit their options.

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