Topic: Is gambling bad to the society? - page 38. (Read 7979 times)

People need to separate gambling from poor handling of money I think.  We could pose the same question about people who shop too much, spend too much money they dont have for items they dont need, its the same deal really.

The underlying cause is growing up to believe you can spend money you dont possess especially on things you dont need.   Do that in any case and you will end up broke, hungry and homeless possibly.   I dont see gambling as the cause of that bad attitude personally, it can be one of the things people spend too much on but its by no means the only misuse of cash which was never available to spend.


One of my best friends dads was a bookmaker, he took bets on horses mostly and gave out fair odds.  Adults choosing to bet on a race is upto them, he was a just normal worker making a living doing work handling that cash doing the books and paying the bills with his earnings.   Everyone has to pay their bills first before they ever spend, it is problem if discipline is not there to do that & its a problem to figure out at that point.

In my previous comment on this thread, I did emphasized on the fact that gambling is not, and can never be bad to or for the society generally, but can only be bad for or to individuals depending on how the go about their gambling activities.
And talking about the government and why they are not banning, or haven't banned gambling, gambling is not a bad thing for anyone to engage him or herself in, in fact, gambling is one of the top industries that is generating alot of money for the government in the form of taxes from the casinos; as well as winning gamblers, this money is used to bring in new developments to the country by the same government.
And besides, there are a lot of other things that a lot of people engage themselves in that is morally bad, that is harmful to the society in general, and the government have not banned such activities, so why should they ban gambling that is not a bad thing to the society? Example of the activity that is morally bad, to individuals and society in general is..
1. Pornography
2. Sex workers (sluts)
Etc.
This are things that are distroying individuals and societies in general.

Gambling need to be regulated for it to be suitable for the society because of people that are misusing the fact that they want to make money. Playings bets is never bad but when  people finally see the outcome of gambling too much, they could think that gambling is actually bad which is not. One just have to take the necessary risk management to keep making money in the crypto casinos.
 Their are still pro gamblers that are making big money from betting and playing different casino games to double their earnings. There people that sees gambling as wrong activities but we can't blame them because it is obvious that many people keep getting it wrong when it comes to gambling.

In my opinion, gambling is part of a business, where they are willing to look for capital to be able to gamble, from those looking for capital they have to try first even though the capital money is obtained from borrowing money from other people, which in essence means they try before they start playing. gambling.

Then they have high hopes that they can reach a point of victory where they hope to be able to pay off the loan from the first capital and then be able to carry on with their daily lives, even though the method is a little less good, but they have tried their best to find a little money so they can survive.

When things turns ouut to be unhandled then they would really be that definitely be banning it , but if it would really be just that affecting a few then they wont really be caring about on banning it.
They would really be focusing more on the benefits that they could really be giving out rather than on following on what others been that recommending.

We do know on how much revenuue or tax that gambling industry would really be giving out in terms of taxation then it would really be that something that gives out that advantage.
Gambling isnt something that will really be focused to be a bad thing. It is really just that people do really give them that overall generalization because they've been seeing
that there are inviduals who do really end up with this situation or condition.

Gambling isnt that bad neither means for personal or society kind of stuff, as long you dont make yourself that getting dealing with gambling addiction
then it should really be just that fine.

I agree with you that gamblers always play silently but their silence is not because of the society effects, am not trying to argue with you but to state the fact of my community where I live, gamblers always stay indoor so that people may not notice that they gamble, in my community most gamblers due collect money from people in the name of something else either for business purposes or school issues, so with this they affect communities indirectly because when someone comes for this same purpose people will see them as a gambler, he has blocked the chances of many.



There is not doubt about this because the family faces all the trouble that they brings home, when something haven't happened to you you will see it has normal things that can be settled but if it comes your head you will no how big it is, a family was involved in the gambling which almost make him addicted, right now we are still battling financial crisis he engaged us.

It is this simple, even if there are a few people out there that will ruin their lives because of gambling, the truth is that gambling brings so many benefits that governments are not going through the trouble to ban it, after all just take a look at Las Vegas, that is a city that exist exclusively because of gambling and now it has become one of the most visited touristic spots around the world, despite the fact that now you can gamble from your phone, showing how powerful gambling can be and the great benefits it offers to society as a whole.

When many people can have responsibility in gambling, they will enjoy gambling as an entertainment, even if that society playing gambling together. They will not thinks that gambling is a place to make money but only a place to have fun and will treat gambling as it was. But it is not easy for people to looks gambling as an entertainment because when they wins some money, their minds will thinks that they can makes more money and that can attract them to continue playing gambling to wins more. They will not see gambling as an entertainment anymore but a place to make money so they will use more money to wins more. They must realizes that will difficult for them to wins so they must not trying to playing gambling longer and use more money to avoids more losses.

Nice one! Now, let's view it from a standpoint, if gambling is so evil to the point that it will be very evil/negative to society to the extent of causing harm to people who are not even gambling through those who are gambling, do you think the government will be this silent about it, especially if it has now become an epidemy in the country? In this situation, if care is not even taken, gambling would be abolished in the country, just like the government is fighting drugs which could cause others who are not even taking them to be harmed due to the drugs' influence on those who are taking them. But the situation is not so right now, which technically means that gambling is not as bad as people are taking it, if not for the irresponsible acts (in finances) associated with gamblers.

Also, look around you, how many people have been harmed by gambling addicts just because such addicts want to gamble? Being bad and doing all sorts of evil is human and is a different ballgame and it is in the nature of the person personally whether he gambles or not. Even if such will use part of the evil proceeds to gamble, how many more things will the person use it for aside from gambling? There will be many of course, so this is not about gambling itself but a bad human being. This is applicable to whether he is even addicted to the extent of robbing, for example, and using part of it to gamble, which is the only risk I see here. But note that desperation can push anyone to do an unspeakable thing but no one has the right to do evil things no matter the reason. A good mind will always counter evil thoughts and opt for a good alternative, so it is not gambling that should be blamed but that evil soul itself.

Being addicted or irresponsible gambler doesn’t mean you can harm the society unless the gambler does an action that affects the community then this is true. Some of the addicted gambler usually just play on their own silently since they spend most of their time in the casino instead of joining to do the society.

I believe the close family is the one will be affected financially if ever the gambler is using the money intended for his family but that’s not always the case so let’s stop generalizing an addicted is harmful to everyone.

Gambling is really enjoyable if one realizes it. And that joy can only be realized by those who conduct responsible gambling there. But when a gambler engages in irresponsible gambling he will see it not as a joy but as a bane of his life. An addicted gambler or an irresponsible gambler will not be viewed favorably by society. Because today or tomorrow society will be damaged by him. However, we cannot blame for gamble as a gambler's behavior is entirely personal. By conducting responsible gambling on one will never be affected by the negative effects of gambling.

Overall, by looking at the current stigma, it is clear that there will be many people who agree that gambling has a negative impact, especially with what is happening now where there will be many people who will assume that gambling is a condition that will definitely be considered a bad person, so something like this already indicates that gambling is a condition that will never be labeled good.

But in other cases when we already know what we are doing and do not disturb others and do not harm them, I think gambling can still be done because after all, we do it voluntarily and without coercion from others and use our own in the end so why care about people's judgments that we cannot prevent, as long as it does not harm others and we are able to minimize everything that happens as a consequence, it is indeed no problem to gamble.

Although ideally not done but if we are already in gambling then why not as long as we can be responsible with ourselves.

Society speaks against gambling because it causes financial loss.  And the incidence of its damage is very high.  Some can be completely ruined by gambling.  Because when you become addicted to gambling, even if you lose gambling, you don't hesitate to sell your valuables and invest in gambling.  It gives us a lot of peace of mind when gambling is limited to fun.  But when it turns into addiction, it becomes a cause of great loss for us.

Excessive gambling is bad and it can start from when a gambler wants to use gambling to console himself or wants to gamble for profit. This will make such gambler to forget on how to discipline himself from addiction. People that are in debts due to gambling should not gamble anymore because it will ruin their lives. This is because they will keep on paying their debts as it accumulates, and they will have nothing left to depend on.

These set of gamblers are the people that is making the society frown at gambling, because it is having a negative impact on them and the society. Their families will not be happy and less care will be shown to them by the gambler. Addicted gamblers have always brought pain to their families due to their gambling problems and how they lavish money on gambling chasing their losses. Some of them steals to gamble or sell properties to gamble.

However, if gambling can be done in a normal way with self control and discipline, it will help a lot and addicted gamblers will be few. This can be achieved if we don't think of profit when gambling.

To be able to achieve what the gambling wants seems difficult, because the chances of victory are smaller than the chances of defeat. In addition, if the gambling is done with the aim of producing a win or indeed we pursue victory, frustration can occur due to the defeat that will occur. We must be able to have security when gambling such as limits and be aware not to gamble excessively when you have lost, do not let us lose self-control or self-confidence when gambling and also do not be too confident when gambling, because it can cause actions that are not considered first and that are at great risk.

It is true that if gambling is done in a healthy way such as doing it just for fun and not upset by the losses that occur then there may not be a big problem such as the feeling of wanting to recover losses or chasing losses. But unfortunately, people also have mouths and eyes where they can see and comment on someone who is gambling, even though they are not harmed, you know that humans like to interfere in other people's business.

I think that the casino is always an Opportunity to show ourselves what we are capable of doing and achieving, sometimes we see that things can be very Difficult and can generate a lot of frustration if we determine that many things can be guaranteed, our Security is an Invaluable value that we should not lose even if we lose at the casino, we should always have willpower and action, in any case we will feel that it can take away our confidence because if we play and or win then it is already an Imminent Failure , but if we see it from another point of view things can Change and be better if we manage to handle it to have fun and Occasionally make a profit, it does not Matter if Society does not like it, it is not being harmed, there is no need to complicate things.

In fact, gambling is not that bad if every gambler can gamble appropriately within the limits set not to gamble excessively, because many people think gambling is bad, in my opinion this is because there have been many cases of bad impacts that have occurred, but This is also based on their own gambling that exceeds the limits so that they experience many bad impacts, one of which is their own finances, where their money could just be used up just for gambling. Apart from that, with someone who is addicted to gambling, of course there is a possibility that they could harm other people or society, like in my country there is a young person who is addicted to gambling, but because of his gambling addiction, he is almost judged because he has tried to steal a motorbike and is looking for further information. Indeed, he did it to be able to gamble again by stealing a motorbike and selling it.
It is very rare for people to accept gambling activities in their environment, but this may depend on the country that legalizes gambling or makes gambling illegal. Moreover, gambling can indeed change a person for the worse because its strong temptation and attraction can turn a person into a worse person.

Funny you mention that a true gambler is someone who wager money responsibly and knows when to stop and all at, because I have seen people on the internet who has a very different definition of what a gambler is. There are people who believe being a true gambler (so-called), completely depends on the amount of wager one could have in a period of time, which is an incorrect interpretation to me (perhaps you have a different opinion or perception of what a true gambler is).
Would you say someone who wagers 10$ a week is a true gambler? or would it take that person to wager up to 1000$ in a week before in your eyes that person is considered to be a true gambler by you?
To me, anyone who gambles in a consistent way (regardless of the volume of the wager) is a gambler, one could put 1$ per month at stake during a period of a year, and to me that person would be a gambler.

As a side not, of course, I agree there are ways casinos and betting houses can contribute to society, it is something which is well documented on the law of many countries.

I believe so but what we have seen is that it was not for making them fun or for their pastime, it has now become one of their necessities which has become a reason for their financial problem due to heavy addiction. In fact, in our place, many of them are in debt because of this and they are working hard, have some money, and gamble which is supposed for their basic needs. It is not helping anymore but it causes additional problems. They are not too young not to know how it ruins their life and needs education, they are supposed to realize it before the worst thing happens.

Hey, really appreciate your information on Brazil collecting tax from winning gamblers to the ton of 15 percent, this should be the first time I am coming across this information and I needless say that it's actually a very good way for the country to generate money for their development.

But however, I am curious to know why you think this or such move can stop people from gambling excessively? I want to know if there is some kind of limit to gambling that is associated to every gambler in the country to limit how frequently they gamble, because without some thing like this, I do not think or see how charging gambling winners 15 percent of their win as tax will stop those who already have a natural desire for excessive or combursive gambling from exercising it, or what do you think?

Anyways, I thinks will be a good new topic for discussion on this board.