Is gambling bad to the society? - page 39.

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Quote from: Bananington on June 08, 2024, 07:11:13 AM

Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

I can agree with your take on this subject of gambling being bad to the society, but upon careful consideration, gambling has been a source of income for a country like Brazil of which collects some amount of tax from winnings of gamblers. It was about 15% as at the last time I learnt of this, and surely it has helped their countries GDP in so many ways, including discouraging gamblers from gambling excessively.

Hey, really appreciate your information on Brazil collecting tax from winning gamblers to the ton of 15 percent, this should be the first time I am coming across this information and I needless say that it's actually a very good way for the country to generate money for their development.

But however, I am curious to know why you think this or such move can stop people from gambling excessively? I want to know if there is some kind of limit to gambling that is associated to every gambler in the country to limit how frequently they gamble, because without some thing like this, I do not think or see how charging gambling winners 15 percent of their win as tax will stop those who already have a natural desire for excessive or combursive gambling from exercising it, or what do you think?

Anyways, I thinks will be a good new topic for discussion on this board.

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Quote from: Hispo on June 08, 2024, 07:23:58 AM

Gambling can be good in a societal level, if both gamblers and government are responsible, in the end, a casino is just like any ither business which is obliged to pay their taxes.

Every society definitely has a different view on this matter but most of them consider gambling to be something bad in their eyes, so it also depends on how the perpetrator is as a gambler whether he plays responsibly or not, I as a responsible gambler will not I once thought gambling was bad because for me it was a game that was fun for me, except for gamblers who chase money, of course it would definitely look bad in the eyes of other people because he spent his time continuing to gamble and couldn't relax.

A true gambler is a gambler who can relax and be responsible, at least he knows when to gamble and knows when to stop gambling, gambling can indeed produce something good for society, namely taxes that are collected by the government and managed for the public to enjoy. Again, but whether gambling is bad or not depends on society's perspective on it. The point is, don't just look at it from your point of view, but try to see the good, don't just see the bad. not all gambling is bad either

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Risking or losing important relationships, a job, or school or work opportunities because of gambling. Asking others to bail you out of financial trouble cause you have gambled money away.

these are the scenario most addicted gambler is facing butthat will never happen to you if you are a
self controlled gambler in which very few managed to keep for themselves while in gambling.

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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

not because we should not treat gambling as a means of earning is
that we should add this to a bad in society because there are many gamblers
than knows how to limit themselves so that is far from being bad to the community right?

but you know in some society those people who progress more in business are strong gamblers, so gambling is also helping in other hands. Just as you said their are some gamblers who knows how to limit themselves whenever they notice they're going too far, but their ones that doesn't care if they are doing the wrong thing. What they just want it's for them to get what they want and they won't even care if they're causing more trouble to society. And this are the set that makes people take gambling as something that isn't important to the society. So gambling helps and it's important also.

We are all used to perceiving gambling as something uniquely bad and random in terms of winning.
But personally, I think that one of the sections of gambling: poker is quite a good area of gambling, in which you can earn income stably and without dependence, while remaining in full self-control without dependence.
The most important thing there is logic, and even though the success factor in poker sometimes plays a decisive role, but the skills of a poker player are also very important there.

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Quote from: rodskee on June 05, 2024, 05:37:59 AM

Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

Risking or losing important relationships, a job, or school or work opportunities because of gambling. Asking others to bail you out of financial trouble cause you have gambled money away.

these are the scenario most addicted gambler is facing butthat will never happen to you if you are a
self controlled gambler in which very few managed to keep for themselves while in gambling.

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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

not because we should not treat gambling as a means of earning is
that we should add this to a bad in society because there are many gamblers
than knows how to limit themselves so that is far from being bad to the community right?

but you know in some society those people who progress more in business are strong gamblers, so gambling is also helping in other hands. Just as you said their are some gamblers who knows how to limit themselves whenever they notice they're going too far, but their ones that doesn't care if they are doing the wrong thing. What they just want it's for them to get what they want and they won't even care if they're causing more trouble to society. And this are the set that makes people take gambling as something that isn't important to the society. So gambling helps and it's important also.

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Quote from: Bananington on June 08, 2024, 07:11:13 AM

Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

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I can agree with your take on this subject of gambling being bad to the society, but upon careful consideration, gambling has been a source of income for a country like Brazil of which collects some amount of tax from winnings of gamblers. It was about 15% as at the last time I learnt of this, and surely it has helped their countries GDP in so many ways, including discouraging gamblers from gambling excessively.

From the macroeconomics point of view, gambling is good for the country administration because of the tax collecting you mention. Though, you should also keep in mind that the good which can be done from the profits of casinos depends on the goodwill of those in power. If the administration of the taxes is transparent, then in the end, part of the money being moved by gamblers and casinos will be used to pay for social services, healthcare, for the salaries of those who keep the streets clean and collect the garbage. Otherwise, if the administration of the country is corrupt and being led by kleptomaniacs, the taxation upon casinos and gamblers who hit jackpots will only be part of the tainted fortunes of those in power and do not care about the country or the people in it.

Gambling can be good in a societal level, if both gamblers and government are responsible, in the end, a casino is just like any ither business which is obliged to pay their taxes.

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Quote from: Bananington on June 08, 2024, 07:11:13 AM

Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

I can agree with your take on this subject of gambling being bad to the society, but upon careful consideration, gambling has been a source of income for a country like Brazil of which collects some amount of tax from winnings of gamblers. It was about 15% as at the last time I learnt of this, and surely it has helped their countries GDP in so many ways, including discouraging gamblers from gambling excessively.

Hmm, that's something new, it never crossed my mind to even reason to the direction you are heading because the only view at which most persons look at gambling is based on the aspect of two effects which are either gambling causes addiction or it could be enjoyed as a form of entertaining where by the first is the most viral view in which gambling is seen. But looking at what you said, I think I will check out myself and be certain of this opinion.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

I can agree with your take on this subject of gambling being bad to the society, but upon careful consideration, gambling has been a source of income for a country like Brazil of which collects some amount of tax from winnings of gamblers. It was about 15% as at the last time I learnt of this, and surely it has helped their countries GDP in so many ways, including discouraging gamblers from gambling excessively.

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Quote from: samuraijin on June 03, 2024, 11:06:56 PM

It all comes back to a person's capacity to use gambling, we often find someone when gambling focuses only on winnings and some are just for fun, of course the bad impact is someone who hopes for a big win when gambling, but the reality is just the opposite which has a bad impact. for that person, it all depends on how they consume it in their daily life, because that can also be a measure of a player's badness.

So what this means is that it all depends on the perspective and mindset of the gambler himself, how they approach gambling, whether it's to chase victory or to have fun, but the question is, is gambling bad? Do you think it depends on people's mindset? Of course, every society has different views about gambling, but the majority of people view gambling as a bad thing, even though from the gambler's point of view, they play responsibly or have fun because what society knows is that it is only a bad thing, and for me not everything about gambling is considered bad.

Even small children are not allowed to be exposed to gambling, even until they are teenagers, so it is a natural right that society views gambling as bad, even though it is actually not that bad if the users are responsible and don't play excessively, only people who are addicted to gambling are considered bad, not all people who gamble are bad, they only play to entertain themselves, we don't know what it's like to be tired of making money all day and need entertainment to relieve fatigue.

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Quote from: cozytrade on June 04, 2024, 10:34:32 AM

Gambling is a very serious addiction once addicted to gambling one can never quit gambling. We should always try to stay away from gambling. I know people who start gambling in the first place take gambling as entertainment. There is. They don't even know when they become addicted to gambling. We all should take gambling as entertainment. Gambling can never become addiction.

I don't understand what you're talking about, first you said to always stay away from gambling, but then you suggest to gamble for fun.

Those two options are contradict each other, one need to stop and one need to gamble.

And you're wrong if you said every gambling addicts will not able to quit gambling, many of addicts can stop gambling, but it's require a big sacrifice which is losing everything.

I think he only made a few mistakes in his writing, it's normal if there are mistakes in his writing, but if I catch the meaning of his writing, maybe he wants to say that everyone who gambles is very susceptible to gambling addiction and only a few have managed to control themselves so they don't get addicted to gambling and considers gambling to be just fun, maybe that is the correct delivery of what he says, but it could also be wrong because only he knows what he means.

Gambling is indeed very dangerous for gamblers who go too far and are too serious, but for mature gamblers of course there is no problem and it's not that bad either, in fact it also depends on their mindset whether they are gambling for money or for fun, if you want to have fun gambling it will definitely look fine, but if instead you gamble just for money it will definitely end up looking bad for society and other gamblers, in essence it all depends on your mindset. Grin

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Quote from: Sim_card on June 07, 2024, 09:42:05 AM

It is still the same thing of saying that they are mainly after winning, because we know that gambling should be done do fun so that we don't overdo it and also be able to use an amount of money that will not make us chase or losses. If you don't win, you will not recover your loss. So winning is the primary agenda that leads to loss chasing. If you are a responsible gambler, you will consider losing too as part of the game, and that will make you to be careful in order you not gamble with big amount of money, so that if you loss your bet, you don't chase your losses.

with those who experience big losses or lose a lot of money because they gamble with the aim of winning. because by aiming for victory, it tends to make them unable to invest money in gambling when the gambling they do ends up losing, so that their goal actually causes them to experience undesirable things. Apart from that, in my opinion, gambling is not completely bad, because this is a game that pays with rewards. If you are lucky, you can get it, but most people do this, they don't think about the risks, so they only think about winning what they will get, even though it's not certain. happen.

What you say is correct, winning is the main agenda which ends in chasing defeat, there is even a famous figure in my country who said "even if they win, it is the beginning of defeat" and I think that is true. The large number of people who have a bad view of gambling is due to the fault of the gamblers themselves who gamble excessively so that they often experience many problems and bad impacts. They should be able to consider the action they are going to take before regretting it in the end.

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Quote from: cozytrade on June 04, 2024, 10:34:32 AM

Gambling is a very serious addiction once addicted to gambling one can never quit gambling. We should always try to stay away from gambling. I know people who start gambling in the first place take gambling as entertainment. There is. They don't even know when they become addicted to gambling. We all should take gambling as entertainment. Gambling can never become addiction.

I don't understand what you're talking about, first you said to always stay away from gambling, but then you suggest to gamble for fun.

Those two options are contradict each other, one need to stop and one need to gamble.

And you're wrong if you said every gambling addicts will not able to quit gambling, many of addicts can stop gambling, but it's require a big sacrifice which is losing everything.

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Quote from: samuraijin on June 03, 2024, 11:06:56 PM

It all comes back to a person's capacity to use gambling, we often find someone when gambling focuses only on winnings and some are just for fun, of course the bad impact is someone who hopes for a big win when gambling, but the reality is just the opposite which has a bad impact. for that person, it all depends on how they consume it in their daily life, because that can also be a measure of a player's badness.

If the portion of gambling is excessive it will certainly have an impact on our financial pockets or on our daily lives, it will definitely have an impact too. When gambling, you should not overdo it, just use a budget that is not too excessive. In my opinion, they are not only concerned with winning, usually they continue to play to catch up on the losses they experienced previously.

It is still the same thing of saying that they are mainly after winning, because we know that gambling should be done do fun so that we don't overdo it and also be able to use an amount of money that will not make us chase or losses. If you don't win, you will not recover your loss. So winning is the primary agenda that leads to loss chasing. If you are a responsible gambler, you will consider losing too as part of the game, and that will make you to be careful in order you not gamble with big amount of money, so that if you loss your bet, you don't chase your losses.

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Quote from: wiss19 on June 07, 2024, 04:06:35 AM

Despite all the points you have mentioned, how do you think such a society would be doing financially? We know that gambling isn't a way for anyone to earn money, you may win sometimes but you will lose most of the time, and when you are constantly losing money and not having any job or source of income, how do you live or sustain a livelihood? How would people feed themselves and their family members in such a society?

This can only be hypothetical because in practical life, a whole society can't be irresponsible and only irresponsible people can be like that where they keep gambling and do nothing else, their family suffer because of them being lazy and not having any source of income and spending anything they have on gambling.

That depends which society as we have different society, even if that is in one city. If someone only use gambling to earn money while he doesn't have any job or source of income, he will only in trouble without have a big chance to earn that money. We don't knows how those people feed themselves and their family in such a society because we are not close to that society. But they will have their way to do that and also playing gambling but that will not be a good idea for them as they may lose all of their money and that will makes them in a big trouble.

Society can't irresponsible of what happens to people in those society but they can remind each other not to playing gambling too often. If they can always reminds each other, that will helps them to remember that playing gambling moderately will be better for them.

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Quote from: wiss19 on June 07, 2024, 04:06:35 AM

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Quote from: samuraijin on June 03, 2024, 11:06:56 PM

It all comes back to a person's capacity to use gambling, we often find someone when gambling focuses only on winnings and some are just for fun, of course the bad impact is someone who hopes for a big win when gambling, but the reality is just the opposite which has a bad impact. for that person, it all depends on how they consume it in their daily life, because that can also be a measure of a player's badness.

Yep, that's depends on personal views but you can imagine what will happens to society if most people on that society playing gambling. You will see they don't do other things and only playing gambling and they use gambling for their main things for their lives. They can't separate which is their primary things or secondary things in their lives but they will use gambling as their primary things. They will talks about gambling every day no matter if they are takes a break from gambling or while they playing gambling. It seems they don't have other things to do and just keeps playing gambling. That will makes that society lives becomes worst because they can't do other things that can benefits their lives. They becomes lazy and don't wants to moves from their zone because they thinks that they are okay with all of that but the truth is they are not okay.

Despite all the points you have mentioned, how do you think such a society would be doing financially? We know that gambling isn't a way for anyone to earn money, you may win sometimes but you will lose most of the time, and when you are constantly losing money and not having any job or source of income, how do you live or sustain a livelihood? How would people feed themselves and their family members in such a society?

This can only be hypothetical because in practical life, a whole society can't be irresponsible and only irresponsible people can be like that where they keep gambling and do nothing else, their family suffer because of them being lazy and not having any source of income and spending anything they have on gambling.

there are many characters who do this, I don't know if they are irresponsible or just addicted to the game, as a person who plays I think it is irresponsible to play with a family at home waiting for you, waiting for you and maybe the money to support them even on having children and not giving them anything to eat because you have to play breaks my heart to think that there is someone who can do something like this, I repeat the game is beautiful if done responsibly and not done in a reckless manner

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Quote from: samuraijin on June 03, 2024, 11:06:56 PM

It all comes back to a person's capacity to use gambling, we often find someone when gambling focuses only on winnings and some are just for fun, of course the bad impact is someone who hopes for a big win when gambling, but the reality is just the opposite which has a bad impact. for that person, it all depends on how they consume it in their daily life, because that can also be a measure of a player's badness.

Yep, that's depends on personal views but you can imagine what will happens to society if most people on that society playing gambling. You will see they don't do other things and only playing gambling and they use gambling for their main things for their lives. They can't separate which is their primary things or secondary things in their lives but they will use gambling as their primary things. They will talks about gambling every day no matter if they are takes a break from gambling or while they playing gambling. It seems they don't have other things to do and just keeps playing gambling. That will makes that society lives becomes worst because they can't do other things that can benefits their lives. They becomes lazy and don't wants to moves from their zone because they thinks that they are okay with all of that but the truth is they are not okay.

Despite all the points you have mentioned, how do you think such a society would be doing financially? We know that gambling isn't a way for anyone to earn money, you may win sometimes but you will lose most of the time, and when you are constantly losing money and not having any job or source of income, how do you live or sustain a livelihood? How would people feed themselves and their family members in such a society?

This can only be hypothetical because in practical life, a whole society can't be irresponsible and only irresponsible people can be like that where they keep gambling and do nothing else, their family suffer because of them being lazy and not having any source of income and spending anything they have on gambling.

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The gambling industry is considered one of the important industries that contribute significantly to supporting the economy and stimulating economic growth. It provides employments for many people by providing job opportunities which contributes to reducing unemployment rates and increasing the income level in society. It also increases government revenues through taxes imposed on this industry. Also, the gambling sector contributes to stimulating tourism and attracting more tourists who prefer gambling as a means of entertainment. Increasing the number of tourists can contribute to increasing tourism revenues and boosting the economy in general.

In addition, Gambling is a source of entertainment for many people, as they find it an opportunity to relax and have fun. Games and betting play a role in stimulating feelings of pleasure and excitement.

Of course, all these indicators do not negate the reality of the negative effects of gambling on the individual and society. We are not in the business of comparing the negatives and positives within this discussion.

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Quote from: Ludmilla_rose1995 on June 04, 2024, 09:51:35 AM

usually in eastern countries, gambling is considered very bad and is definitely labeled negatively by society, but unlike western countries, there gambling is not considered bad, so gambling is bad for society depending on where the area is

gambling for some people has different understanding and treatment, there are those who consider gambling entertainment, a way to make money and a way to get rid of addiction, and it cannot be denied that the turnover of gambling money is very large, so in countries where gambling is legal, gambling is not bad for society

Even in Eastern countries, there will still be people who will not really care what people say about their gambling habit and they feel that is their way out of poverty i might not been have been their but you see a lot playing lotto and try out other means to just get money and instead of them to try more productive means they will go and gamble. western countries are worst they gamble without conscience. and that is why they have more physical casinos because it is something they enjoy. and having casinos their is a very good investment. am not sure if they have have physical casinos like eastern part. like in my country religion goes against gambling but do people really care now or they want is how they can make money. people see gambling in a different perspective and they do according to what they belief and that is why you see people gambling everyday it is not because of anything but because of what they believed and they see it as a way out and it is not everyone that will get lucky with gambling but people still don't want to accept that. and once they are addicted their is nothing that can be done except they give them external help.

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It is a vice basically. Similar to alcohol, and other drugs.

It gives people a feel good moment in the present in exchange of a worse future.

Every person should control themselves and use gambling whenever they see fit, which could be potentially never. Every person has their own limits.

It's the same with alcohol, some people never drink, others drink occasionally, and others are addicted to it.

The exact same thing happens with gambling.

So, yeah, overall things like alcohol, gambling, etc, can be seen as a negative on society, but of course they also bring positive feelings in the present. Otherwise if it was only negative then no one would do it.

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Quote from: justdimin on June 05, 2024, 07:01:24 AM

A freedom limiting thing is never really that great. I mean if it's bodily harm I would understand, like making heroin illegal is understandable because you are hurting your body, like literally unaliving yourself. However, casinos are just money places, the only thing they are after is your money, and this is true for EVERY business, they are just after your money, they have zero other side effects, they just take your money and nothing more.

If you spend all of your money on a casino, that is not casinos fault, and they should not be banned for it. I always had the belief that casinos should be legal all around the world, it would make things a lot better, and it would give people a chance to make it a lot more reasonable part of our lives.

Playing gambling also hurting your finances and makes you lose all you have. Your losses will be bigger if you don't realizes and that can makes you don't have money to fills your daily needs. Gambling is bad if you can treat it as an entertainment and that will also ruins society if they still playing gambling just to chase the wins. When we lose in gambling, we must understand that we will difficult to gets it back because gambling will not allows you gets your money easily and even gambling will takes more money that you have.

Gambling is only for entertainment and you should knows that you don't have to use much money even spends all of your money. When gambling is bad for someone, that can also be bad for society if they use gambling excessively or just to makes money. They must realizes about that to prevents their losses becomes bigger.

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Quote from: cozytrade on June 04, 2024, 10:34:32 AM

Gambling is a very serious addiction once addicted to gambling one can never quit gambling. We should always try to stay away from gambling. I know people who start gambling in the first place take gambling as entertainment. There is. They don't even know when they become addicted to gambling. We all should take gambling as entertainment. Gambling can never become addiction

When a person gambles he mainly gambles for entertainment but at some point in gambling for this entertainment he becomes addicted to gambling. If he wants to get out of gambling addiction, he can't get out of gambling addiction even if he wants to. Undoubtedly, gambling addiction is a bad side that slowly leads people to danger. A gambling addict cannot fulfill his family responsibilities properly, he becomes so addicted to gambling that he forgets to fulfill his sense of responsibility towards his family, so just as a person shows irresponsibility towards his family, he has no sense of responsibility in his personal life. The addiction of winning puts people's lives in constant danger. So it is ok to gamble for entertainment but it is not ok for someone to become addicted to gambling for this entertainment as it will put both his family in danger.

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