Topic: Is Gulden a good investment? - page 142. (Read 250200 times)

Almost all my DGB friends are already kicked out. According to them the rules are:

1. Don't speak positive about other coins with better development (there are only couple better but still) or you will get kick out
2. Praise the development team all times.
3. Don't mention the premine or you will get kick out
4. Don't mention moving the premine to a safe multisig address or you will get kick out
5. Don't ask for detailed info (how/when it has been spent) or you will get kick out. They will tell only what amount was spent with a vague reason. No transparency.
6. They got an inner circle slack channel with only the real trusted members. They don't know that there are still some DGB fans in it. You would be scared if you know what they say. The discuss people kicking out of meeting if they come, share home addresses of people who question Gulden, share real names of people who question Gulden.
7. No freedom of speech. Obey the rules of Rijk or get out. This is why they moved from bitcointalk to Slack. They like moderation. They will use only moderated mediums because they want to be able to delete things.

I don't know which are true and which not but i certainly will not join their Slack.

Are they South African? Hope this coin gets more dutch dev's as it is loosing it's identity and being overtaken by South Africans. It should be marketed as South African coin and not as dutch if they are South African also. Very disappointing that the only Dutch guy (Rijk) is not even a developer.

I do agree that they are spending ALOT more on the same stuff (hey cousin, you need money? We got dutch fools throwing money for free at us. Hey uncle, you need money? We are looting the dutchies, time for payback what they have done to us). Don't like this friends and family politics at all. Creating an elite group of friends and family is bad for Gulden. They only see Gulden as an moneymakingmachine, nothing more.
Now Prime could costs 200 BTC instead of the initial 20 BTC.

 I hope i am wrong.

M8 in every community you not going to get on with everyone, it's only natural, if you unhappy with the community then dump your coins and move on.

I am sure this new dev has a IQ of 77. Keep shitting in your pants trolls.

http://tshwanedje.com/members/djoffe/cv.html

Development is slow but steady. I see no problem in that.

I do have some doubts about the pre-mine and the lack of openness about that by the dev team. I know they have this page where you can see what they spend, but not on what and there is also over 600BTC paid for shares that is completely off the radar.

When I see now that there are two more dev's (both friends and family) it sort of looks like they are spending a lot more on the same stuff (friends creating app's). Other projects do this as well (like Groestl), only in their own time, at their own costs and without any premine. Fact is projects like Groestl produce even higher quality and way more lines of code. This team surely does it's job right, but way more expensive and at a much lower pace. In my opinion Gulden will have way better chances if they start hiring some good PR in stead of more slow coders.

And then there is the issue of the ETF approval that is almost sure to go through this Saturday. I know officially it will be announced on Monday, but the default term actually ends this Saturday. Effectively it will be approved by default if it is not explicitly declined before the end of tomorrow. I'm sure a lot of people are going to speculate on ETF approval this weekend. This could easily boost BTC price above $ 2000. If that happens, Gulden will surely drop sub 750 SAT. So I for one am seriously thinking of temporarily selling out on this one for now and buy back at pre summer 2016 prices.

Just my two cents.

More South Africans then Dutch? This is not good because the average IQ of South Africans is 77 and for us its 100.

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

Almost all my DGB friends are already kicked out. According to them the rules are:

1. Don't speak positive about other coins with better development (there are only couple better but still) or you will get kick out
2. Praise the development team all times.
3. Don't mention the premine or you will get kick out
4. Don't mention moving the premine to a safe multisig address or you will get kick out
5. Don't ask for detailed info (how/when it has been spent) or you will get kick out. They will tell only what amount was spent with a vague reason. No transparency.
6. They got an inner circle slack channel with only the real trusted members. They don't know that there are still some DGB fans in it. You would be scared if you know what they say. The discuss people kicking out of meeting if they come, share home addresses of people who question Gulden, share real names of people who question Gulden.
7. No freedom of speech. Obey the rules of Rijk or get out. This is why they moved from bitcointalk to Slack. They like moderation. They will use only moderated mediums because they want to be able to delete things.

I don't know which are true and which not but i certainly will not join their Slack.

No FUD. He asked why they were kicked out. I told him what they said to me.
Ofcourse i understand that if everybody turned Waterloodown down that he turned them down also. No surprise there and I agree with Waterloodown.

This is exactly why i hate some of the community. You all cannot read and are so fast offended.
I replied Danslip why they were kicked out and you guys read something else. Stop being a sheep!
Remember the rules of Slack? They don't apply here!

New announcement by the dev team yesterday, this is good news for Gulden.

https://developer.gulden.com/blog/

No conspiracy here. Ask Waterloodown and the DGB community and you will know. Stop making jokes of the truth.

The conspiracy theories is strong in this one.

Stop with the FUD m8, this is your story... waterloodown was turned down by all coins and when the other coins needed help he refused. BIG F'ING SURPRISE ! Go spread your fairy tales elsewhere m8.

No. What I heared is that Gulden was begging in 2015 through Waterloodown for developers. Mani was the only developer till now. He could not do all alone.
They went begging from coin to coin and were turned down by everybody. Waterloodown also offered a big chunk of the premine to developers to join Gulden but the developers still refused the bribe.
Then when DGB fans asked for development support for DGB then Gulden became hypocrites and said that they only work for Gulden. In short: it is ok for other developers to join Gulden but it is not done to expect the same back. This was not nice from the Gulden team.
Then they got kicked out from Slack.

No. What I heared is that Gulden was begging in 2015 through Waterloodown for developers. Mani was the only developer till now. He could not do all alone.
They went begging from coin to coin and were turned down by everybody. Waterloodown also offered a big chunk of the premine to developers to join Gulden but the developers still refused the bribe.
Then when DGB fans asked for development support for DGB then Gulden became hypocrites and said that they only work for Gulden. In short: it is ok for other developers to join Gulden but it is not done to expect the same back. This was not nice from the Gulden team.
Then they got kicked out from Slack.

You didn't answer any of my questions. I did not say there is no development. And yes Gulden should be in top 5 just not on number 1. Bitcoin and Dash has far better and faster development.
I said they are spending ALOT more on the same stuff. Now Prime could costs 200 BTC instead of the initial 20 BTC. I know they develop. But they eat ALOT more BTC also.
I also said that the development team is more South African rather than dutch.

I bet they kicked them for asking why the marketing sucks balls.

That would be true if no development was taking place but you have admitted yourself this coin is in the top 5 when it comes to development. The funny thing is this team is more independent then the cartel driven coins that run 90% of crypto that actually do take your money and run.
All I see in this topic is people desperately trying to get in cheap before Prime is released.

The latest changes to DELTA have sorted out the block numbers. It's been perfect since the DELTA switchover in December 2016 as far as I am concerned. This is why people like Kenchanyu are complaining for the exact reason you bring up. but the fact is this is how many blocks per day should be mined.

Get on their slack. Air some of your concerns, since not everything looks like what they're claiming. Those arrogant bastards will f* you left right and center with troll-seeking missiles, then kick you out.

You don't know any coin that releases faster? Perhaps you don't know other coins?
Bitcoin and Dash delivers much more releases than Gulden. Gulden is in the top 5 of fast releasers but it isn't the fastest.