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legendary
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jewish racism against christian in israel is real, it is not a muslim conspiracy.
its a small ultra right minority that is increasing in numbers day by day. shit comes from both sides everywhere...
yet more deflection...
legendary
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3) Nonsense about "their were no people in Palestine pre zionist" or "there were no Palestinians" does not work in favor of that incorporation. It creates a false concept that is harmful not only to Jews but to others. Similarly skewed nonsense like your reference to '400 terrorist bombings' are not wise.

I agree there were people there before Israel. There is a record of Palestinian terrorism toward the British going back to the early 1900s.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?

It's obvious you're a Zionist from your use of the Muslim religion to group Palestinians. Many Palestinians are Christians and they hate Israel just as much.


Baritus is totaly correct on this point.
Here is a a little summary and starting point for research:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians


Yes he is correct, if you consider 1% "many," or if you consider ignoring 1% as positive proof of someone being a Zionist.

Let's consider 1% "very few," shall we? Better, let's just ignore them, and use .... "the Muslim religion to group Palestinians."

lol...now let's get back to the assertion I made which above attempt at deflecting it failed.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?


you should check the historical timeline:

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- According to official British Mandatory estimates, Palestine's Christian population in 1922 constituted 9.5% of the total Mandatory Palestine population (10.8% of the Palestinian Arab population), and 7.9% in 1946.

-After the war of 1948, the Christian population in the West Bank, under Jordanian control, dropped slightly, largely due to economic problems. This contrasts with the process occurring in Israel where Christians left en masse after 1948. Constituting 21% of Israel's Arab population in 1950, they now make up just 9% of that group. These trends accelerated after the 1967 war in the aftermath of Israel's takeover of the West Bank and Gaza.

-As of 2015, Palestinian Christians comprise approximately 1–2.5% of the population of the West Bank, and less than 1% in the Gaza Strip.

-Making up 17.6% of the population, Muslims constitute Israel's largest religious minority. About 2% of the population is Christian and 1.6% is Druze.


jewish racism against christian in israel is real, it is not a muslim conspiracy.
its a small ultra right minority that is increasing in numbers day by day. shit comes from both sides everywhere...
legendary
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If you would have bothered to read more than one sentence, you'd know they were close to 10.8% of Palestinian Arabs before getting evicted from their land by the Israelis and becoming refugees. Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance and short attention span.

The positive proof of your Zionism is the use of "Muslim" as a negative connotation and your attempts at associating it with terrorism. Consequently, it's also shown in your belief that because the Christian Palestinians are "1%" now they are worthless people that shouldn't even be mentioned in a discussion of their own history, country, and future. Zionists want to erase Palestinian history and pretend it doesn't exist, it makes them feel better about land theft.

Well written fairy tales from 2000 years ago just confirm it for them 100% that they should not feel bad but in fact should rejoice since they are God's special children. The last part of my sentence is from the fairy tale as I'm sure you'd know.

I am an atheist, you may be interested to know. I have no interest in fairy tales of any flavor.



legendary
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3) Nonsense about "their were no people in Palestine pre zionist" or "there were no Palestinians" does not work in favor of that incorporation. It creates a false concept that is harmful not only to Jews but to others. Similarly skewed nonsense like your reference to '400 terrorist bombings' are not wise.

I agree there were people there before Israel. There is a record of Palestinian terrorism toward the British going back to the early 1900s.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?

It's obvious you're a Zionist from your use of the Muslim religion to group Palestinians. Many Palestinians are Christians and they hate Israel just as much.


Baritus is totaly correct on this point.
Here is a a little summary and starting point for research:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians


Yes he is correct, if you consider 1% "many," or if you consider ignoring 1% as positive proof of someone being a Zionist.

Let's consider 1% "very few," shall we? Better, let's just ignore them, and use .... "the Muslim religion to group Palestinians."

lol...

If you would have bothered to read more than one sentence, you'd know they were close to 10.8% of Palestinian Arabs before getting evicted from their land by the Israelis and becoming refugees. Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance and short attention span.

The positive proof of your Zionism is the use of "Muslim" as a negative connotation and your attempts at associating it with terrorism. Consequently, it's also shown in your belief that because the Christian Palestinians are "1%" now they are worthless people that shouldn't even be mentioned in a discussion of their own history, country, and future. Zionists want to erase Palestinian history and pretend it doesn't exist, it makes them feel better about land theft.

Well written fairy tales from 2000 years ago just confirm it for them 100% that they should not feel bad but in fact should rejoice since they are God's special children. The last part of my sentence is from the fairy tale as I'm sure you'd know.
legendary
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3) Nonsense about "their were no people in Palestine pre zionist" or "there were no Palestinians" does not work in favor of that incorporation. It creates a false concept that is harmful not only to Jews but to others. Similarly skewed nonsense like your reference to '400 terrorist bombings' are not wise.

I agree there were people there before Israel. There is a record of Palestinian terrorism toward the British going back to the early 1900s.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?

It's obvious you're a Zionist from your use of the Muslim religion to group Palestinians. Many Palestinians are Christians and they hate Israel just as much.


Baritus is totaly correct on this point.
Here is a a little summary and starting point for research:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians


Yes he is correct, if you consider 1% "many," or if you consider ignoring 1% as positive proof of someone being a Zionist.

Let's consider 1% "very few," shall we? Better, let's just ignore them, and use .... "the Muslim religion to group Palestinians."

lol...now let's get back to the assertion I made which above attempt at deflecting it failed.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?
legendary
Activity: 2464
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3) Nonsense about "their were no people in Palestine pre zionist" or "there were no Palestinians" does not work in favor of that incorporation. It creates a false concept that is harmful not only to Jews but to others. Similarly skewed nonsense like your reference to '400 terrorist bombings' are not wise.

I agree there were people there before Israel. There is a record of Palestinian terrorism toward the British going back to the early 1900s.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?

It's obvious you're a Zionist from your use of the Muslim religion to group Palestinians. Many Palestinians are Christians and they hate Israel just as much.


Baritus is totaly correct on this point.
Here is a a little summary and starting point for research:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians

legendary
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3) Nonsense about "their were no people in Palestine pre zionist" or "there were no Palestinians" does not work in favor of that incorporation. It creates a false concept that is harmful not only to Jews but to others. Similarly skewed nonsense like your reference to '400 terrorist bombings' are not wise.

I agree there were people there before Israel. There is a record of Palestinian terrorism toward the British going back to the early 1900s.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?

It's obvious you're a Zionist from your use of the Muslim religion to group Palestinians. Many Palestinians are Christians and they hate Israel just as much.

Additionally, self defense is not terrorism. Fighting colonialism is not terrorism. Revolution is not terrorism. Otherwise, America was founded by terrorists fighting against the British.
legendary
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And yet those poor Europeans are still dreaming of their multiculturalist utopia being a standard across the world. Sigh. Sweden has even been accused of covering up abuses done by the immigrunts. Almost every journalist that has been to Rikeby has been attacked. To be fair with them, how do you arrest rapefugees that mob and molest girls at concerts when most of the people there are rapefugees.

Europeans - they will be missed.

Sweden has made it an offense to mention the skin color or the race of the perpetrator, in case of violent offenses such as rape and murder. If you mention the skin color of the criminal, then you will go to jail. An example of how rabid the political correctness can be.

Give us a link to to law.
My google is broken. Thank you.
legendary
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April 30, 2017, 11:47:36 PM
#45
And yet those poor Europeans are still dreaming of their multiculturalist utopia being a standard across the world. Sigh. Sweden has even been accused of covering up abuses done by the immigrunts. Almost every journalist that has been to Rikeby has been attacked. To be fair with them, how do you arrest rapefugees that mob and molest girls at concerts when most of the people there are rapefugees.

Europeans - they will be missed.

Sweden has made it an offense to mention the skin color or the race of the perpetrator, in case of violent offenses such as rape and murder. If you mention the skin color of the criminal, then you will go to jail. An example of how rabid the political correctness can be.
legendary
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April 30, 2017, 10:21:05 PM
#44
i can't stand anti semitism. i also can't stand the criticism of israel being called anti semitism.

alot of the time they're oppressive scum. but if they weren't they'd probably be wiped out.

Sad but true, the only chance for Israel is to be tough on the people around them in an attempt to ensure that the people around them (Arab Countries) aren't trying to take advantage of them in any way. Everyone in the world knows that if Israel didn't have such a good military and military tech the Arab countries around them probably would've devoured them by this point from some bullshit religious hatred and partisan hatred from the 40's
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Israel exterminates Arabs there because no-one is stopping them. They will keep doing it till someone hammers them down.....

Really?

By any objective measure it's Arabs who are exterminating Arabs (along with various other people-types).

Dude, if the jewish people were doing this the NEWS would make sure to point it out so something would happen. They never care about when the Arabs kill eachother though, that's just normal practice at this point.

Sad.
legendary
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April 30, 2017, 09:17:00 PM
#43
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3) Nonsense about "their were no people in Palestine pre zionist" or "there were no Palestinians" does not work in favor of that incorporation. It creates a false concept that is harmful not only to Jews but to others. Similarly skewed nonsense like your reference to '400 terrorist bombings' are not wise.

I agree there were people there before Israel. There is a record of Palestinian terrorism toward the British going back to the early 1900s.

Why is it "not wise" to note that the Muslim hero, Yassir Arafat, was a common thug who organized over 400 terrorist bombings?
legendary
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April 30, 2017, 04:42:42 PM
#42

You got to admit, it's a big move to change the crusade from "Kill all the Jews" to "Kill all the Infidels."

Of course taking over the world and establishing a Caliphate would mean some crazies directed to a town near you.

They look to the glory days when they are a global power. That's why every radical would be claiming they're working to bring back the caliphate. The "glory days" coincided with the time they were very secure and wealthy - mostly because it was them doing all the invading. And yet when they talk about European colonialists... IMHO they are just bitter the kafirs beat them to world domination. Kafirs are not meant to be victors, they must be dhimmi.


After all, multiculturalism is such a good thing.  Grin

Third world rapefugees sexually abusing native women in the European states can be such a good sign of the growing multiculturalism and cultural enrichment coming to the western nations.

And yet those poor Europeans are still dreaming of their multiculturalist utopia being a standard across the world. Sigh. Sweden has even been accused of covering up abuses done by the immigrunts. Almost every journalist that has been to Rikeby has been attacked. To be fair with them, how do you arrest rapefugees that mob and molest girls at concerts when most of the people there are rapefugees.

Europeans - they will be missed.

Na. Look at pinoyland. Better pray for them. They will be gone soon and nobody will miss them Sad

@topic

Read this for some facts about israel and palestina:

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/paul-pillar/diverting-attention-the-tragedy-palestine-20396
newbie
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April 30, 2017, 01:24:50 PM
#41
Who would not say anything, but the Jews know how to live and build their country. Despite years of conflict with their neighbors, they are like outcasts all over the world and yet their standard of living is much better than in many countries around the world.

One of the big lies is that the Great Powers created the nation state of Israel. The United Nations did with a two thirds majority vote. The Arab nations were united in opposition.

Even though the proposal included steps for the creation of a Palestinian state, that didn't matter. They couldn't stand the idea of a Jewish state. It's not a matter of equal for the two sides, they have to have it all and have the Jews have nothing. That's the way they were, and that's the way they are.

Hence a Palestinian "leader," Yassir Arafat, with over 400 terrorist bombings and atrocities to his credit. Hence today, 10% of the Palestinian Authority toward terrorist support. Hence today, massive propaganda, including the initial premises of this thread.



The reality is

1) Jews paid a huge price in WWII, then some Jews, the Zionists, capitalized on the price other Jews had paid, by using the holocaust to maneuver their way to a political state.

2) Jews were heavily discriminated against in Europe pre WWII. Nobody questions that. Europe was not safe for Jews. Some people can argue that "Jews did this" or "Jews did that", but truthfully Judaism is a developed tradition with an acceptable morality so broad criticism of Jews to justify their restriction in a society is not valid unless the same restrictions apply to others. The evidence is more that Jews, like other groups that integrate, must first open themselves to projection from the first inhabitants, they must first be the shadow or villain, before they can incorporate.

3) Nonsense about "their were no people in Palestine pre zionist" or "there were no Palestinians" does not work in favor of that incorporation. It creates a false concept that is harmful not only to Jews but to others. Similarly skewed nonsense like your reference to '400 terrorist bombings' are not wise.
hero member
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April 30, 2017, 01:04:18 PM
#40

You got to admit, it's a big move to change the crusade from "Kill all the Jews" to "Kill all the Infidels."

Of course taking over the world and establishing a Caliphate would mean some crazies directed to a town near you.

They look to the glory days when they are a global power. That's why every radical would be claiming they're working to bring back the caliphate. The "glory days" coincided with the time they were very secure and wealthy - mostly because it was them doing all the invading. And yet when they talk about European colonialists... IMHO they are just bitter the kafirs beat them to world domination. Kafirs are not meant to be victors, they must be dhimmi.


After all, multiculturalism is such a good thing.  Grin

Third world rapefugees sexually abusing native women in the European states can be such a good sign of the growing multiculturalism and cultural enrichment coming to the western nations.

And yet those poor Europeans are still dreaming of their multiculturalist utopia being a standard across the world. Sigh. Sweden has even been accused of covering up abuses done by the immigrunts. Almost every journalist that has been to Rikeby has been attacked. To be fair with them, how do you arrest rapefugees that mob and molest girls at concerts when most of the people there are rapefugees.

Europeans - they will be missed.
legendary
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April 30, 2017, 10:03:22 AM
#39
Who would not say anything, but the Jews know how to live and build their country. Despite years of conflict with their neighbors, they are like outcasts all over the world and yet their standard of living is much better than in many countries around the world.

Even before the foundation of Israel, the Jews had some of the highest standards of living in the world. And despite the holocaust and the numerous wars, they were able to build their new country from scratch.
I think that the success of many Jews started the mechanism of repression. People are just jealous of Jews and their success. The Arabs are doing the same as Hitler. They simply have no strength to destroy Israel. However, this does not prevent the Palestinians EN masse to go to work in Israel.
you mean, take their money and scout out good places for devout brother in law to blow up? Fund his work then take his wife?
member
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April 30, 2017, 09:26:08 AM
#38
Who would not say anything, but the Jews know how to live and build their country. Despite years of conflict with their neighbors, they are like outcasts all over the world and yet their standard of living is much better than in many countries around the world.

Even before the foundation of Israel, the Jews had some of the highest standards of living in the world. And despite the holocaust and the numerous wars, they were able to build their new country from scratch.
I think that the success of many Jews started the mechanism of repression. People are just jealous of Jews and their success. The Arabs are doing the same as Hitler. They simply have no strength to destroy Israel. However, this does not prevent the Palestinians EN masse to go to work in Israel.
legendary
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April 30, 2017, 02:30:58 AM
#37
Problem is a few crazy ones could be coming to a town near you.

After all, multiculturalism is such a good thing.  Grin

Third world rapefugees sexually abusing native women in the European states can be such a good sign of the growing multiculturalism and cultural enrichment coming to the western nations.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1386
April 29, 2017, 01:26:43 PM
#36
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Israel exterminates Arabs there because no-one is stopping them. They will keep doing it till someone hammers them down.....

Really?

By any objective measure it's Arabs who are exterminating Arabs (along with various other people-types).

Actually it's not clear who's exterminating who down there and like a real American would do, i don't give a fuck as long as they exterminate each other a long way from my body.

Problem is a few crazy ones could be coming to a town near you.

You got to admit, it's a big move to change the crusade from "Kill all the Jews" to "Kill all the Infidels."

Of course taking over the world and establishing a Caliphate would mean some crazies directed to a town near you.
hero member
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April 29, 2017, 12:25:25 PM
#35
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Israel exterminates Arabs there because no-one is stopping them. They will keep doing it till someone hammers them down.....

Really?

By any objective measure it's Arabs who are exterminating Arabs (along with various other people-types).

Actually it's not clear who's exterminating who down there and like a real American would do, i don't give a fuck as long as they exterminate each other a long way from my body.

Problem is a few crazy ones could be coming to a town near you.
legendary
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Merit: 2442
April 29, 2017, 11:46:30 AM
#34
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Israel exterminates Arabs there because no-one is stopping them. They will keep doing it till someone hammers them down.....

Really?

By any objective measure it's Arabs who are exterminating Arabs (along with various other people-types).

Actually it's not clear who's exterminating who down there and like a real American would do, i don't give a fuck as long as they exterminate each other a long way from my body.
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