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October 15, 2023, 12:12:43 PM
#51
It doesn't matter if they'd trust me with their pins or not because I know I can be trusted myself but if we are talking viceversa it won't work. I trust no one too. I knew things better than the people around me specially my family, friends or relatives that are vulnerable to any of the common human errors. I am a type of person that is private. I don't even trust my shadow. 😅 Trust issues on movies regarding security could also happen in real life situation that is why I'd better keep my pins with me. My pins my responsibility. Trusting other people with your pins could pose risk.
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October 15, 2023, 11:54:42 AM
#50
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

I don't think I can fully trust any of my friends or family or any relatives, because wealth is something that can sometimes cause confusion in a person's intentions, and even your close relationship can deceive you in greed. .Only yourself can be trusted with complete confidence. Earlier people used to trust each other and people used to be sincere,now people's trust is getting lost. This has happened to me myself, I trusted my close friend and did joint business with him, in which he cheated me for the sake of wealth.

I can give the ATM PIN of a bank account that doesn't have a lot of money to a close relative, but if the account has a lot of money, I will never give my ATM PIN to a close friend or relative. I feel like I can't trust anyone with my seed phrase, because it's always my long-term investment.So I'll try to keep my seed phrase as secret as possible, because it is possible for me to trust someone close to me and tell them and they can't protect my seed phrase.
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October 15, 2023, 11:38:38 AM
#49
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

Thank God....my family can still be completely trusted, they can all be trusted and even help and remind me about finances. I am grateful to have a family I can trust 100%, but outside of my family such as friends and family, I hesitate to trust them. In essence, this comes back to each of you who can judge the family's character, only you yourself can be trusted or not.

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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

Pins with seed phrases are actually different. Many of my friends know my ATM pin because sometimes after hanging out in cafes when paying they often use my ATM. If they intend to cheat and take my money at the ATM, I can change the pin or we can go to the BANK to ask about the return process. Unlike seed phrases, I cannot return assets, even the wrong ones if I send them can't be taken back. Therefore, you really have to tell the seed of this phrase to the person you trust most, in this case I trust my sibling.
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October 15, 2023, 10:57:17 AM
#48
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
My answer to your question on trust is yes. I can trust my immediate family member and my wife. Based on my upbringing and my relationship with my sibling and what we have been through, I know that they are trustworthy. As for my wife, well of course she's my wife I got married to her in the first place because should anything happen to me she's the first person that will be called so yes I can trust her.

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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
Yes. My wife and my immediate youger sibling. Aside these people, I do not trust any other person. My ATM pin and my seed phrase will be safe with them because they have knowledge about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
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October 15, 2023, 10:53:30 AM
#47
WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
For ATM pin, I do trust my family to know what's my ATM pin is. Although they know what's my pin, they don't even bother to use it for their own and they will always ask if they need something, it does also applies if I need stuff as well and ask to my family. But for seed phrase? That's just my secret and my family isn't that tech savvy so they don't know what the hell I am talking about and they don't even bother with it.

I guess it just depends on your family condition because every family is different and you can't just fully generalize it.
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October 15, 2023, 10:43:50 AM
#46

WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

It is very difficult to build trust in someone especially when you have seen so much in your life. Trusting with an ATM pin to someone is one thing, while trusting with a seed phrase is another thing, and everyone has a different opinion regarding, who to trust. 

My wife and best friend know about my ATM PINs and bank account details, and I can trust them with my life. They do know about my crypto holdings, where my seed phrases are stored, and how to decode them.

It's really hard to trust someone these days especially if you know their background. Once you learn they did stupid things before, you may really have to think twice before even entrusting some funds. If you have a kid it makes sense that you trust your wife since she will also take care of your kid once you suddenly just drop dead. She can at least get funds for them to live.

But in the current time when banks themselves are insolvent, I would run away from banks and just use BTC which I could also give the seed to my wife.
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October 15, 2023, 10:07:29 AM
#45

WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

It is very difficult to build trust in someone especially when you have seen so much in your life. Trusting with an ATM pin to someone is one thing, while trusting with a seed phrase is another thing, and everyone has a different opinion regarding, who to trust. 

My wife and best friend know about my ATM PINs and bank account details, and I can trust them with my life. They do know about my crypto holdings, where my seed phrases are stored, and how to decode them.
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October 15, 2023, 10:00:37 AM
#44
Trust is such a big word. It's hard to gain someone's trust to that extend of sharing pin and seedphrase. You can't do that to anybody even if you'd say you trust them. But in my case, some of my family know my bank pin since sometimes they'd be the one who'll withdraw some money from my account. Like my mom. Of course I trust my mom, and even if she'll take some of the money (with my knowledge), I know she'll use it for the family's expenses. Also my gf knows my pin. As for my seedphrase, I share it will my gf because she helps me with crypto related stuff. I share it with her because if ever I can't find where I keep my phrase, I can ask her. Others might won't agree with this since they might think it's too early to share such private info when you're not even married yet but it's just that I trust her. It all depends on how we trust the people around us. If you can trust them with such things.
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October 15, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
#43
WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

My wife. I literally share my ATM pin number to her since she holds my ATM(which I voluntarily ask  Cheesy) and also because she is the one who budgets our expenses in the house. I only get part of it as my allowance and the rest will to her budgeting.

The only time I will not trust my partner is when she is already cheating or she is not responsible enough to manage our budgeting. Seriously, if you can’t trust your partner despite you have kids to sustain then I don’t know what’s wrong with this kind of trust issue anymore.
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October 15, 2023, 09:39:42 AM
#42
The answer to this question is simple but if we think deeply we can understand a lot. In today's era, if we talk about the word trust, we will always get its negative aspects, i.e. it is very difficult to trust someone now. Although there are still many good people in this world who deserve to be trusted, this cannot be thought all cases. And the number of those believers who can keep faith is almost limited. But in managing life, we must trust someone. I don't want to give my personal ATM PIN number to anyone just out of trust because I don't want to leave anyone under suspicion. I will not give my seed phrases to anyone. But there is no way without giving it. We have to trust someone and give that phrase, otherwise there will be no ownership in case of an accident. Inheritance we must trust someone.
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October 15, 2023, 09:11:16 AM
#41
A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
For this kind of thing, I can only completely entrust two people in my life, the first is my own parents and the second is my life partner because I have been building a household with him for a long time. Apart from that, I cannot completely trust everything, especially in things that need to be kept secret in life. Although I have also seen several cases that have surprised me so far.

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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
To this I also have to say NO, because my ATM pin may only be known by the bank and my partner personally. Meanwhile, regarding seed phrases, I still can't trust the bank, but I can still trust my partner for this because he really wants to obey what I say, which makes me not afraid to tell him whatever I have been using all this time.
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October 15, 2023, 09:07:30 AM
#40
Trusting someone with money & sensitive info is not easy. It depends on so many factors such as past experiences, personal judgment& the level of trust between people. Some people find it easy to trust others with money based on their reputation or relationship, others might be more cautious. It's important to assess the person's reliability, financial responsibility & track record before making a decision. Open communication, transparency & establishing clear expectations can help build trust in financial matters.
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October 15, 2023, 08:54:25 AM
#39
Well, I have seen a lot of comments here, and I am pretty happy to read a lot of them. It is quite interesting though, like some have nobody to trust and others have maybe 1 person or more. Yes, sometimes we don't have to trust someone with something special, but there are things we should learn to trust some person for, but not totally.

If we talk about money, a lot of people don't joke about it. People don't trust anyone with their money. However, I have two people who I trust with my funds. My mum is the number one person and my mum also trust me too.

Part of the money that I used to invest in Bitcoin was given to me by my parents (30% of it) but the rest of the money was mine, so what I am about to say is that, if my parents didn't trust me they wouldn't add their money to mine, so I can invest them in Bitcoin. That's what we call trust. There are people who their parents can't give a dime because they have no trust. It's good to trust someone a little bit and not completely.

I already know that a fiat bank pin and a seed phrase are two different things, but the reason why I mentioned them is that they are a bit similar. A fiat bank account contains money and a wallet seed phrase also contains money.

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October 15, 2023, 08:31:17 AM
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
It depends on the people closest to you such as family, friends and others who seem to have an untrustworthy nature. Meanwhile, I personally am not someone who is too easily suspicious. I mean for certain reasons, for example as a financial holder, my family has access to take it, in this case my wife. Maybe as I said, it comes back to how you apply an attitude of trust in other people. I also don't immediately give access without having a specific reason. Only certain people, because what I do is have an alternative if something undesirable happens such as death or an accident, so I need a second party to take care of it.
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October 15, 2023, 08:06:02 AM
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

It is very difficult to be able to give trust to other people. If only everyone was able to behave honestly and responsibly, perhaps there would be no such thing as a statement letter and there would be no such thing as a memorandum of understanding because everyone would behave honestly and responsibly. And maybe stamp paper won't sell on the market and there's no such thing as an oath of office.

It is true that being able to provide trust is very difficult, but we also cannot act alone because the role of other people is needed to make a job easier. And if we want to be trusted by other people, we must also be able to give trust to other people so that mutual trust can arise in each other.
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October 15, 2023, 07:28:08 AM
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so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
My partner in life is the one I trust the most. We've spent 10 years together; I know her better than anyone. She's not someone that can easily be blinded with money as she is really responsible on where to spend money, she knows her priorities and we're open to each other when it comes to money. And yes, I am 100% that I can trust my partner with my seed phrase. She can take care of it and use it not only for herself but also for our family.

It's really hard to find someone whom you can really trust. You have to know how to know what's inside their mind and their intention whether they can easily be blinded by money or not. If ever that you can't find someone, the only choice is your parents.

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October 15, 2023, 07:01:15 AM
#35
I understand what you mean, you are trying to suggest that we should not just trust third parties about the money we have in our wallets, in other words other people should not have access to the accounts we have because anyone cannot be trusted, even if they are in a close relationship. family.

In principle, of course I don't trust anyone in financial matters and that's why I'm interested in Bitcoin, but for the fact that I can't close myself in the system that exists in this world, where third parties are one of the popular ones used in finance. , while there are clear regulations and legal defense of customers, I prioritize using several banks to store my cash.

For wives and others, I have budgeted their monthly expenses, both general and personal needs, still in finances, even though wives must know that we save our money, but don't give them access.
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October 15, 2023, 05:39:27 AM
#34
The only person I entrust with something as crucial as my ATM PIN or seed phrase is my mother. I would never feel any loss if my mother were to know the entirety of my financial holdings and withdraw some money to purchase something for herself. My mother's education may not be extensive, and she's not even aware of how to access my Bitcoin wallet, despite my attempts to instruct her from the ground up.

As of now, my ATM PIN is known to my mother and a few other family members, including my older sister. Since I treat my ATM card as I do my own money, there has never been a significant withdrawal that has placed a burden on me. We hold mutual respect for each other's feelings within the family. Besides, my mother always consults me when she needs money, so I do not harbor any unusual concerns that would lead me to negative thoughts about the misuse of my ATM.
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October 15, 2023, 05:28:10 AM
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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

That's right, I think we all here have our own bank accounts which are needed to carry out fiat transactions. Btw, it seems like you are the typical person who is very careful, but that's normal in my opinion, because in terms of trust, it should not be given just like that, especially in urgent conditions/circumstances because it concerns finances or security.

So, in my opinion, if you force it, it will have serious consequences and there is no guarantee that everything will be fine, especially in a more technical context such as using an ATM PIN or seed phrase (both of these things are very important confidential information). Yes. as you said above, it is true that winnings are not allowed to be given haphazardly, but maybe it's different if the assets are zero and it's not a special account, in my opinion that's okay.
     
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October 15, 2023, 05:12:35 AM
#32
Trusting individuals is not easy because people have continuously abuse their trust, so I think if somebody has to confined in you or trust you, you have to prove to the person that you are worth it, even though most times people pretend in other to gain that trust which is fake.

The recent happening and individual character have made it almost impossible for trust to exist, I don't think anybody should be blamed for it, is just the way things has turned to be, to me 100% is no no thing, unless we are talking about giving benefit of doubt, is in human nature to betray so we can't change that fact, the only thing is, we should be mindful of what we do and be careful.

In the aspect of trusting some with your transaction details, be it seed phrase or code, when you are doing this, you should know that anything can happen because you are dealing with a human being that can change due to either seeking for advice from others or doing what comes to their mind not minding what may come out of it, I must be sincere I have trust issues that's why I can only give 20% out of 100%.
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