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legendary
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However, some people might want to try to manipulate them into giving them trading advice, but I am sure that they will fail in that because they are not designed for such a purpose.

You know, sometimes I play eagle and tails to find a solution I'm not really sure in. And I'd say it is a good option to save time in some cases as when the arguments are equally good for the two options sometimes you need just to choose the one and start realizing. But anyway I understand that it is not a decision of a coin, it is my own decision to use random. So when you use some divination for trading you should anyway understand that it is not AI who trades, it is still your decision. And consequences of that are on you and no one (and no thing) else. Grin
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I keep seeing videos on Youtube related to how good this A.I project called ChatGPT is very good trading and we all know how unreliable those YouTubers are, so I bring this on here instead, have you use this A.I project for trading yet? Any one?

UPDATE

Sorry guys its actually OpenAI not ChatGPT
I can't ascertain the source of your info, you should have at least shared the link to the Youtube video that claims such. Well, be informed that many of the Youtubers are pathetic lies, they are only trying to gain traffic to their page. From what I know about the two (CahrtGPT and OpenAI), they are not coded to tare for anyone, but to give information.

However, some people might want to try to manipulate them into giving them trading advice, but I am sure that they will fail in that because they are not designed for such a purpose.
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I don't think it's wise for anyone to allow bot(s) trade for them, honestly. I talk from experience. During the early days of my trading involvement, I was introduced to trading robots. Then crypto wasn't even a thing. It was FX trading. Robots or bots can make you money but you will eventually lose it when the market becomes choppy. Bots are programmed for certain market conditions and those are trending markets – bull and bear. Once the market goes into range, robots won't understand the direction anymore and they become indiscriminate in placing trades. The best is for one to learn the skills and be present minded trading it. If you don't have the time, then don't trade.
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I keep seeing videos on Youtube related to how good this A.I project called ChatGPT is very good trading and we all know how unreliable those YouTubers are, so I bring this on here instead, have you use this A.I project for trading yet? Any one?

UPDATE

Sorry guys its actually OpenAI not ChatGPT


I was a bit surprised to read that ChatGPT should be involved with trading, because they try to be children friendly and political correct. A friend of mine has tried a lot of things with bot and says there are a lot of limitations. With OpenAi it's something else, it can be used in all aspects of life and can bring value for the users. However when it comes to trading I am sceptical, so far I haven't seen a profitable AI based trading strategy. Financial markets are very complex, and while many traders use computer system to support their trading strategies, they still need human input and supervision to making sure the bot doesn't break down. Self learning AI is definitely the future, but when it comes to trading do we think there is this one perfect pattern the AI will identify? I don't think so, human action always involves emotions and the more people are involved the bigger the emotions. I do think there are strong patterns in the market, but they are changing with the market conditions. A strategy that works well during a bull market is not guaranteed to do well in a bear market and vice versa. The Ai might have problems switching between such strategies.
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AI is progressing a lot and many big tasks are now being done through artificial intelligence but I am still not sure how much AI will work in trading. Because I have never traded using AI myself and I have yet to learn from any professional traders how well AI works in trading.  But since AI is improving day by day so I think AI may not do good for trading at present but in future upgrade AI can do a good job for trading also
legendary
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ChatGPT is one of the algortihm that creates the code for the developers which is a chat bot you can ask even can create a bunch of codes with your just a request but recently they are now using this bot to get a lot of information this AI must need to have a command and I guess still depends on the script of the users would like to use the ChatGPT afaik right now has a payment for a monthly subscription for me better to learn with this bot and not get dependent on it.

Learn from the bot with what he can provide, especially this information that can lead you to a much better success rate. I'm sure learning still on you as the AI needs your inputs when executing the trade.

You can use it as a good learning platform but also there's a need to keep learning, especially with a kind of
industry crypto market is executing. There are lots of unpredicted outcomes and there are many factors that
we needed to consider.
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ChatGPT is one of the algortihm that creates the code for the developers which is a chat bot you can ask even can create a bunch of codes with your just a request but recently they are now using this bot to get a lot of information this AI must need to have a command and I guess still depends on the script of the users would like to use the ChatGPT afaik right now has a payment for a monthly subscription for me better to learn with this bot and not get dependent on it.
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AI can only give you results according to rules. So it can make recommendations only as good as you can, it still has to follow rules and conditions set by the programmer.

AI trading has been around for 10 years or more. I remember all kinds of forex ai programs.

Now people think crowd wisdom.

None of it works. Use your logic. If AI could even work for 1 satoshi per trade, why would anyone even tell people or sell it? I would make a zillion trades a day.
legendary
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First of all, you are ignoring the fact that there are sooooo many people who are so bad at math that they would have hard time doing additions, let alone anything else, I have seen people who failed in math multiple times, and never really understood it and didn't even really have any intend on getting any better neither.

So yeah, calculator calculates better than a human, faster and more precise, 99% of the population would fail getting the right answer, let alone be any faster, 99.9999% of the population would be either slower or wrong. Hence, yeah, I would say calculator is better, and with this regard, if done properly and used correctly, an AI trading bot could be better than 99.9999% of the traders as well.

No, I keep in mind that lots of people have problems with maths and I saw how many mistakes they made using calculator because they didn't understand how it works. If some tool is like a magic wand for a user they will make as many mistakes using it as it only possible. So if the one doesn't understand anything in trading and will rely on an AI they will lose anyway.

So no, calculator is not better, it is just faster. You can easily make a mistake as yourself as with a help of a tool, the only difference is that if you rely on a tool and trust it your mistake will probably happen more rare (statistically) and bring much bigger damage.
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I think the use of AI in carrying out technical analysis is a bit reliable. but I haven't tried it yet. so don't know if it will actually be useful or not. but maybe we can ask to see what chart patterns form in the market chart. but I wouldn't rely entirely on AI. AI may only be good as an information seeker and other aid in fundamental analysis.
OpenAI still has some limitations but it is continuing to develop on its own as it face those questions. It may not give accurately what it can do to help traders but it's based on factual.

I haven't done it yet but if it's possible to do all of those analysis and it is giving some decision making thoughts, many would be relying on it.

I'm not a good trader and I think that many would purposely do that and I may give it a try if someone shares his experience on how helpful it is to his trades.
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AI might be useful for some of things, but I'm not at all sure AI can predict the future even though the data it has is a reference for traders. I tend to think that people are starting to feel their brains and abilities are no longer better than AI so they can no longer rely on their brains for all activities, including trading. I really didn't expect AI to replace humans, and self-reliance is usually much better.

Humans were created to think and decide things wisely, while AI only works based on data provided by its developers. When the data is wrong, of course the trader will bear the consequences.

It depends on what do we call a prediction. If we expect that AI will give a 100% answer about what will be in the future then it is impossible, at least as modern science know. But if we talk about statistical probability of different main variants I guess it can do so. But if to choose most probable variant all the time you'll get an error anyway as events with low probability happen as well and relying too much on an AI advice can end with total loss. So right, it is important to understand for any tool how it works and not expecting it can do more that it can.

TLDR AI prediction equals to any other out there in the market.

to predict now what will be the price of BTC after 24h or some other number, Hmmmm...NO.  

One can teach AI to recognize historical trading signal patterns or certain behavior of the market . the result of predicting based on this data ,as being said -statistically has the same chance to win or loose as human .
that being said,
AI help significantly  in processing historical data to decision making,  
we have some time until AI will be able to develop by itself His way to predict market, we are not there yet, it's called AGI.

  
legendary
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That is all it can do anyway, and yes it could be wrong. It will have all the data that you could have, of course it can process it a lot better and give a much better result, so the answer could be "it can be better trader than I could be" is true, that's not really wrong, but the fact that people expect it to be right all the time is just not understanding the market.

If you know about the market, you know that even the most likely things may fail and when you expect something, just the opposite could happen. Even if we are talking about just a bad news which could change everything. Which is why AI could be better than me, but not without its faults.
When you use a calculator does it count better than you? May be for some people it does so, but it doesn't count better than a human being, it does it faster and for that was invented. But wait, abacus was invented for the same and it is a good helper in counting as well! AI is a good tool also but expecting it will be better than a human... hardly! Than some people... may be... and may be these people should not play in trading at all not to lose nor with a help of AI nor themselves, right?
First of all, you are ignoring the fact that there are sooooo many people who are so bad at math that they would have hard time doing additions, let alone anything else, I have seen people who failed in math multiple times, and never really understood it and didn't even really have any intend on getting any better neither.

So yeah, calculator calculates better than a human, faster and more precise, 99% of the population would fail getting the right answer, let alone be any faster, 99.9999% of the population would be either slower or wrong. Hence, yeah, I would say calculator is better, and with this regard, if done properly and used correctly, an AI trading bot could be better than 99.9999% of the traders as well.
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 AI can be good for trading only you have an understanding of how it works, as it only there to assist you with analytical guidelines that aids you in making better trades but not that it does the trading for you but rather serves as a trade assistant tool. I think AI is more beneficial to beginner traders as it uncover to their knowledge awareness areas of interest to watch out for in trading.
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I think the use of AI in carrying out technical analysis is a bit reliable. but I haven't tried it yet. so don't know if it will actually be useful or not. but maybe we can ask to see what chart patterns form in the market chart. but I wouldn't rely entirely on AI. AI may only be good as an information seeker and other aid in fundamental analysis.
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Time will tell how effective AI will be in trading. Before using something new, it is important to know the details about it first. AI is still new to us and we need more time to learn about its proper use.
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It is like competition between projectile and armor: you can be ahead of all for some time but others also want to be at a top so they work to overtake you. If all could win at a market then it could be so that some tool could be really effective, but all can't win, so each time it will be more important how can you use tools you have and not tools by themselves. AI is just another tool, not more. And we can expect that it will be a good tool... if to use it wisely.
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If you follow all YouTubers you will be misguided. Because they upload videos whenever the topic is trending to get views, even if they don't know much about it. When the crypto market goes in any direction, they make videos about it, presenting themselves as experts. They do it just to get views and they don't really know about the market. Chatgpt will not help you in trading, because naturally chatgpt does not know the future. Some YouTubers create videos exploiting the emotions of traders and earn their expected views.
I really don't know if AI is actually useful when applied to trading but I thought some people might need to test it before we say something wrong. As far as I read and understand, AI only helps traders get data, it only depends on the data that the developer has so that the level of accuracy can also be doubted. Humans are developers, predictions can't always be as accurate as expected when the data they have is wrong.

So when AI leads trading ideas, then I guess losses will only be consequences that are hard to avoid. There is the same pattern of every AI user in trading, it is easy to predict and it is possible for others to take advantage of it.

Time will tell how effective AI will be in trading. Before using something new, it is important to know the details about it first. AI is still new to us and we need more time to learn about its proper use.

AI may be so advanced one day that trading and proper use of AI can be done. At that time, the advantages and disadvantages of AI in trading may be realized. But I am always more interested in manual trading than using some kind of automatic trading system.
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If you follow all YouTubers you will be misguided. Because they upload videos whenever the topic is trending to get views, even if they don't know much about it. When the crypto market goes in any direction, they make videos about it, presenting themselves as experts. They do it just to get views and they don't really know about the market. Chatgpt will not help you in trading, because naturally chatgpt does not know the future. Some YouTubers create videos exploiting the emotions of traders and earn their expected views.
I really don't know if AI is actually useful when applied to trading but I thought some people might need to test it before we say something wrong. As far as I read and understand, AI only helps traders get data, it only depends on the data that the developer has so that the level of accuracy can also be doubted. Humans are developers, predictions can't always be as accurate as expected when the data they have is wrong.

So when AI leads trading ideas, then I guess losses will only be consequences that are hard to avoid. There is the same pattern of every AI user in trading, it is easy to predict and it is possible for others to take advantage of it.
Lemme tell ya, AI can be a real game-changer when used rite. It's like havin a turbo-charged brain that can crunch numbers faster than a speedin bullet and spot patterns you'd never even dreamed of. But heres the thing, AI aint no magician, it's only as good as the data you give itt. So, you gotta be sure to feed it the right stuff or it'll steer ya wrong and cost ya big time.

And let me tell ya, if you're not constantly mixing it up and trying new stuff, you'll get left behind faster than yesterdays news. Stayin on top of your game means bein creative and adapting to the market's twists and turns. And, bro, let's not forget about the importance of humor! You gotta be able to laugh off the curveballs the market throws at ya and learn from your mistakes. It's all about managin risks and being willin to take calculated chances. I once hit the jackpot by holdin onto a position longer than I expected - bigg gains, baby! So, keep it fresh, take some risks, and always keep that creative mindset pumpin'.
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I keep seeing videos on Youtube related to how good this A.I project called ChatGPT is very good trading and we all know how unreliable those YouTubers are, so I bring this on here instead, have you use this A.I project for trading yet? Any one?

UPDATE

Sorry guys its actually OpenAI not ChatGPT
We don't need to depend on A.I for we to trade because using a robot to trade will make us vulnerable to loses if we don't have control of how trading works. The market cam be very confusing for newbies who are just trying to learn about trading but a protraders would know how to position there trades without any much problem because they know how the market sentiments works.

Using A.I is like the normal robots we do use to trade and it is not the best for traders especially for the intermediate and newbie traders that have all intention to make profits without upgrading there skills.
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If you follow all YouTubers you will be misguided. Because they upload videos whenever the topic is trending to get views, even if they don't know much about it. When the crypto market goes in any direction, they make videos about it, presenting themselves as experts. They do it just to get views and they don't really know about the market. Chatgpt will not help you in trading, because naturally chatgpt does not know the future. Some YouTubers create videos exploiting the emotions of traders and earn their expected views.
I really don't know if AI is actually useful when applied to trading but I thought some people might need to test it before we say something wrong. As far as I read and understand, AI only helps traders get data, it only depends on the data that the developer has so that the level of accuracy can also be doubted. Humans are developers, predictions can't always be as accurate as expected when the data they have is wrong.

So when AI leads trading ideas, then I guess losses will only be consequences that are hard to avoid. There is the same pattern of every AI user in trading, it is easy to predict and it is possible for others to take advantage of it.
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I keep seeing videos on Youtube related to how good this A.I project called ChatGPT is very good trading and we all know how unreliable those YouTubers are, so I bring this on here instead, have you use this A.I project for trading yet? Any one?

UPDATE

Sorry guys its actually OpenAI not ChatGPT


Open AI is a robot that contains a lot of data. This robot is so rich that it can present pretty much anything human needs but it is artificial. Moreover we know it works mainly based on different information. It has no idea about the future. It can never be predicted. But can guess. It's assumption can never match in reality. So I would say that no one should never be relied upon on Artificial Intelligent. Especially in any major financial issue like trading. Here the decision to be taken by combining own intelligence, knowledge and experience can be considered more appropriate.
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