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hero member
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July 07, 2023, 12:52:32 PM

People who refuse KYC think that playing gambling doesn't need to submit their personal documents, especially those who don't use big money. And thinking is normal because they are not the big gambler type and only use gambling for fun.
KYC isn't really about being a high roller or a casual gambler that is playing with small money.. no!

KYC is usually in line with anti money laundering requirements and sometimes to avoid players that have been flagged for gaming casinos with strategies they do not allow and I believe it's to protect themselves from such player's and I think most casino's do ask for it!

And those who use gambling for more than just fun can accept KYC and enter into it to get something out of the casino. After all, they believe the casino can keep the personal documents well.
Lol nobody believes these casinos will keep these documents well and not in a million years!
The whole thing of going through this KYC process is to ensure funds aren't locked up in the gaming account and you can withdraw without any drama!!

Gamblers who stake hugely should prefer casinos who are reliable and those reliable casinos always ask for KYC. They should prefer them because of their trust gained over the years.
Agreed, KYC is inevitable especially that most casinos are regulated and for their growth  this is needed to give its customers confidence to play with them!

For example stake has been around for a longtime and will not want their reputation to go under the ground so what you know is if you play with them and win your money is guarantee that you will get. Therefore if you know a casino has a very good trust rating, you just go ahead with the KYC
Love the sales pitch!! You deserve to be a Stake ambassador:)
hero member
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July 07, 2023, 12:42:22 PM

 I see kyc as a very good idea in the gambling sector case it helps reduce risk factors like i stated earlier I've once done kyc on a gambling site with my national Id and till date I've not have any issues with the app misuse of my information by them rather made my account more secure,it also helps most bookies identify underage users going against there underage policy.
How do you know if your data have been missed used or not because you may not know when you data are used by a scammer to commit crimes  because most of the hackers who hack those platform privided the KYC data to do so even without the platform knowledge and before it is discovered, the did would have been done by then.

This is why it is important to only do KYC on highly trusted sites and not every random app or platform requests for that.
hero member
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July 07, 2023, 12:33:32 PM

People who refuse KYC think that playing gambling doesn't need to submit their personal documents, especially those who don't use big money. And thinking is normal because they are not the big gambler type and only use gambling for fun. And those who use gambling for more than just fun can accept KYC and enter into it to get something out of the casino. After all, they believe the casino can keep the personal documents well.

Gamblers who stake hugely should prefer casinos who are reliable and those reliable casinos always ask for KYC. They should prefer them because of their trust gained over the years. For example stake has been around for a longtime and will not want their reputation to go under the ground so what you know is if you play with them and win your money is guarantee that you will get. Therefore if you know a casino has a very good trust rating, you just go ahead with the KYC so that you can easily withdraw whatever winning you have at the time you request for it and not to use casinos that are not asking for KYC yet you won't be able to withdraw your winning.
This must be the mindset of everyone because we all know that once we put a big amount of money in every bet then we should go to the trusted and reputable casino as we all know that trusted and reputable casino have a licensed and we all know that once a casino have a licensed then they will ask for KYC to secure your money in their hands and some casino will also ask Kyc before sons after you play.

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before sons after you play.

I don't understand what you mean by sons or is that a typo?


However, I understand your agreement that a huge bettor should rather choose to play in more trusted and recognised casino. I won't dare to put my money if I'm betting big, in a casino that isn't licenced or that doesn't have good trust rating. Like in the forum here we have some of the trusted casinos that are doing well, fulfilling all promises and paying out bettors and their signature campaign participants.
legendary
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July 07, 2023, 12:07:01 PM
As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

It's gotten to the point now where most of the largest crypto gambling companies are actually based and headquartered in European countries. This allows for much greater protection when it comes to a complaints process, however many people confuse being sad they lost money with having a legitimate grievance. Providing your documents to such companies, who usually utilize very skilled and safe third parties, is pretty much a financial reporting requirement from their side. They should be doing it from day one, but they sometimes let the player bet if it's low amounts.
sr. member
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July 07, 2023, 12:04:59 PM

People who refuse KYC think that playing gambling doesn't need to submit their personal documents, especially those who don't use big money. And thinking is normal because they are not the big gambler type and only use gambling for fun. And those who use gambling for more than just fun can accept KYC and enter into it to get something out of the casino. After all, they believe the casino can keep the personal documents well.

Gamblers who stake hugely should prefer casinos who are reliable and those reliable casinos always ask for KYC. They should prefer them because of their trust gained over the years. For example stake has been around for a longtime and will not want their reputation to go under the ground so what you know is if you play with them and win your money is guarantee that you will get. Therefore if you know a casino has a very good trust rating, you just go ahead with the KYC so that you can easily withdraw whatever winning you have at the time you request for it and not to use casinos that are not asking for KYC yet you won't be able to withdraw your winning.
This must be the mindset of everyone because we all know that once we put a big amount of money in every bet then we should go to the trusted and reputable casino as we all know that trusted and reputable casino have a licensed and we all know that once a casino have a licensed then they will ask for KYC to secure your money in their hands and some casino will also ask Kyc before sons after you play.
hero member
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July 07, 2023, 11:52:20 AM

People who refuse KYC think that playing gambling doesn't need to submit their personal documents, especially those who don't use big money. And thinking is normal because they are not the big gambler type and only use gambling for fun. And those who use gambling for more than just fun can accept KYC and enter into it to get something out of the casino. After all, they believe the casino can keep the personal documents well.

Gamblers who stake hugely should prefer casinos who are reliable and those reliable casinos always ask for KYC. They should prefer them because of their trust gained over the years. For example stake has been around for a longtime and will not want their reputation to go under the ground so what you know is if you play with them and win your money is guarantee that you will get. Therefore if you know a casino has a very good trust rating, you just go ahead with the KYC so that you can easily withdraw whatever winning you have at the time you request for it and not to use casinos that are not asking for KYC yet you won't be able to withdraw your winning.
legendary
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July 07, 2023, 11:20:13 AM

..... . After all, they believe the casino can keep the personal documents well.
I do not think that everyone considers any, even the largest and most famous casino, to be reliable in matters of maintaining confidential and personal information. 

Long-term experience of using the Internet clearly tells us that confidential data leaks periodically occur due to the deliberate hacking of databases by hackers, or the sale of these databases of casino users by corrupt employees.  Finally, random, unintentional database leaks that occur simply due to inattention or negligence of individual inexperienced employees in their work.  Experience shows that such events always occur, but of course the selection of personal data bases is always random. 
But no one can give you a guarantee that the very database that contains information about you will not be stolen and made public in this way!
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July 07, 2023, 10:19:48 AM
As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?
In platform that ask the customers for Kyc verification, the customers should know that no platform that can use a customers original document for something else or review it, I believe that customers our document use for online verification is protected by the platform, many people today is having issues of Kyc in platform because they use fake document that doesn't correspond with their credentials, we don't need to take some risk that kyc is not important if platform demands for it. The purpose of having a kyc is to know the customers if they are legit or not and also protects the interest of customers but people find it difficult to perform their kyc
While it is possible there are some people out there which are mad about those polices as it is becoming more difficult for them to use fake credentials to get away with their multiple accounts and their bonus abuse, I really think they are the minority.

The majority of the people that are mad about this are people that simply prefer to have a high level of privacy, after all this was one of the promises that this market offered, a promise which is slowly disappearing as more casinos implement those policies.
Those who use fake credentials to get away with multiple accounts want to take advantage of a bug that exists in the casino so they can get something more out of other people. They will no longer be able to use fake credentials for their accounts as the casino will reject them and may ban their accounts.

People who refuse KYC think that playing gambling doesn't need to submit their personal documents, especially those who don't use big money. And thinking is normal because they are not the big gambler type and only use gambling for fun. And those who use gambling for more than just fun can accept KYC and enter into it to get something out of the casino. After all, they believe the casino can keep the personal documents well.
legendary
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July 07, 2023, 03:34:49 AM
Every site can be hacked. KYC in casino is same like in some bonus program in the shop. Of course we are talking about well known casinos.
So the only position that can be about KYC is not about casino. If you`re afraid that you data can be stolen - don`t KYC anywhere. The casino`s KYC is just a part of the system - you can`t choose only one casino as the site that can be hacked.
There is nothing safe on the internet. We don't know if a casino will be hacked or not. Some casinos use third-party websites to collect KYC data and some casinos do this themselves. I don't know if casino data was leaked before. Even if they were leaked, they won't announce it publicly. Hackers sell those KYC data on the Dark web. KYC Data can be hacked from any websites like Casinos, exchanges, or any other sites that store users' personal data. You don't know if your data is already stolen. Even the BitcoinTalk database was hacked at some point. Whoever used an old password and still uses that password on other platforms, they are at risk.
Yes you are right about this but you don't need to think much about casinos or exchange sites that will be hacked then identity is sold by hackers, government sites can still be hacked even many hackers sell information data out there, so it's not strange to think that it's safe or not, it's definitely not safe anywhere on the internet, but keep in mind that it's a part of the Casino rules so we can't ignore or ignore it.

If you think KYC is something complicated, you don't need to play gambling at a licensed casino and ask its users to complete KYC because of course it won't be safe, but I consider this a risk as I entrust the casino to hold my money and that too is part of the risk. life always has a risk depending on how we choose whether we want it or not. that is easy
legendary
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July 07, 2023, 02:44:07 AM
As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?
In platform that ask the customers for Kyc verification, the customers should know that no platform that can use a customers original document for something else or review it, I believe that customers our document use for online verification is protected by the platform, many people today is having issues of Kyc in platform because they use fake document that doesn't correspond with their credentials, we don't need to take some risk that kyc is not important if platform demands for it. The purpose of having a kyc is to know the customers if they are legit or not and also protects the interest of customers but people find it difficult to perform their kyc

Still, there are some bad possible risks that may happen once you submit your personal documents into an online platform (not only online casinos). Indeed, reputable casinos will try to protect their user's data but there is still possibility of something unexpected such as hacker or even internal naughty staffs who want to take an advantage for themselves by selling the user's data/documents in the dark web. I'm not against KYC in general but I do prefer to keep myself safe in this area, so I prefer to not doing KYC in online casinos for privacy purpose.
hero member
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July 07, 2023, 01:03:57 AM
As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?
In platform that ask the customers for Kyc verification, the customers should know that no platform that can use a customers original document for something else or review it, I believe that customers our document use for online verification is protected by the platform, many people today is having issues of Kyc in platform because they use fake document that doesn't correspond with their credentials, we don't need to take some risk that kyc is not important if platform demands for it. The purpose of having a kyc is to know the customers if they are legit or not and also protects the interest of customers but people find it difficult to perform their kyc
While it is possible there are some people out there which are mad about those polices as it is becoming more difficult for them to use fake credentials to get away with their multiple accounts and their bonus abuse, I really think they are the minority.

The majority of the people that are mad about this are people that simply prefer to have a high level of privacy, after all this was one of the promises that this market offered, a promise which is slowly disappearing as more casinos implement those policies.
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July 06, 2023, 03:50:44 PM
As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?
In platform that ask the customers for Kyc verification, the customers should know that no platform that can use a customers original document for something else or review it, I believe that customers our document use for online verification is protected by the platform, many people today is having issues of Kyc in platform because they use fake document that doesn't correspond with their credentials, we don't need to take some risk that kyc is not important if platform demands for it. The purpose of having a kyc is to know the customers if they are legit or not and also protects the interest of customers but people find it difficult to perform their kyc
legendary
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July 06, 2023, 03:46:35 PM
KYC otherwise called know your customer is a
Mandatory policy whereby financial institutions used in identifying their customers it's was mostly used by banks, but later adopted into crypto currency due to fake accounts from bots as well as minimising theft, but of lately the kyc policy have been introduced to gambling World whereby most online casinos and betting sites use it to keep track of the identity of their customers which I find as a very good idea in a case of theft or loss of account to hackers, a customer Could easily prove the ownership of his account without any doubt.

 I see kyc as a very good idea in the gambling sector case it helps reduce risk factors like i stated earlier I've once done kyc on a gambling site with my national Id and till date I've not have any issues with the app misuse of my information by them rather made my account more secure,it also help most bookies identify underage users going against there underage policy.

It is true that doing kyc on casino sites is something that you have no other option, but you also need to be very careful because what has happened is that many new casinos when they appear they offer high sign-up bonuses and this attracts many people who they think they are going to win a lot with the bonus, but these new casinos also ask for kyc and with people they prefer to kyc because they are looking at the bonus than thinking about the great risk and danger they are running when they deliver their documents in the new casino, and the the saddest thing about all this is that such casinos are casinos created very recently

they keep putting absurd kyc, they wait for people to deposit money, win and just when people want to withdraw money the casino asks for kyc and when people do the kyc the casino lied and said that people have many accounts or handed over fake documents , it is perceived that the casino is lying because cases of this type become many and when people use conflict intermediation sites the casino refuses to provide the documents that they supposedly believe to be fake, that is, scam casinos use tos and kyc to hold money from people
hero member
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July 06, 2023, 03:27:16 PM
Exactly. Today i share my data with huge quantity of companies all other the world. And i can`t even name the company that will lose my data. Of course it doesn`t mean that we can KYC everywhere - we have to make at least minimal analyze of the site before KYC, because there are lots of fake sites and sites that were created just to collect users data.
Why anyone or someone would really be that much mindful about such information considering that we've been doing some KYC even with those traditional transactions that we do have in real life or done physically?

It is somewhat understandable that we do really give out that importance when it comes into our privacy on which it would really be just normal that some person would really be that keen on sharing or giving out our information on which having the fear that those information would really be leaking out or being might used on other some reason. Its true that we are really that coming into a point which regulation and
government intervention becomes even more strict, despite that these are really that crypto based related platforms or companies but still they are really that going abiding with their rules and terms.

If you are someone who do make use of such service or whatsoever it would be but they are really that under about government laws then you wouldnt really be having no choice but to comply.
Getting scared? There's no other choice.
I`m talking about it for a long time. There are some people that can`t share their private data, some people are afraid that someone will cheat with their data, someone thinks that secrete service watching at him. But it is small percent i think. And they have to choose would they use these services or not. Lots of things nowadays we can do from home, but we pay for it with our data. Everyone can choose his way himself.
hero member
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July 06, 2023, 02:09:08 PM
In some cases, these casinos claims of hack as a result of data leakage which I see as a cooked up story. In the real sense, most data are being traded in exchange for something based on their agreement.
trading data that the casino might carry out to other parties, it is actually detrimental to the casino. maybe you can argue about their hacked security system, but that will reduce the member's trust.
this kind of thing usually happens in casinos that are almost bankrupt. or indeed their reputation has started badly. so they no longer care about the data being sold. because maybe casinos like that can close their casinos and do similar businesses with different names.
Well, this is basically the reason why using new and untrustworthy casinos is not a good option, one might use a new casino if they want to check it out but they should never complete their KYC verification with them because they are not trustworthy and don't have a good reputation so they can do almost anything with users' data, so a user joining a new platform only to try it out should basically never provide them their personal documents as that isn't free of risk.

I understand that hacks and exploits can even happen with reputable platforms but at least they wouldn't sell the data only to get money which is what a new and untrustworthy casino might do if they need money or even if they are planning to scam their gamblers and run away with their funds.
Its too black-and-white. Its important to distinguish new casinos. Your anxiety is justified but excessive. New businesses value reputation, security, and user data. A blanket distrust precludes exceptions.

KYC is risky. Sharing sensitive data is difficult, but KYC is a two-way street. It prevents fraud and enforces regulations to safeguard operators and players. Regardless of age, a casino that follows strict KYC practises is usually trustworthy.

However, even well-established casinos can commit crimes. Reputation doesn't guarantee infallibility. I'm not dismissing your concerns, but online gambling is risky. Pick your battles, be careful, and stay alert. Always.
sr. member
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July 06, 2023, 12:04:10 PM
In some cases, these casinos claims of hack as a result of data leakage which I see as a cooked up story. In the real sense, most data are being traded in exchange for something based on their agreement.
trading data that the casino might carry out to other parties, it is actually detrimental to the casino. maybe you can argue about their hacked security system, but that will reduce the member's trust.
this kind of thing usually happens in casinos that are almost bankrupt. or indeed their reputation has started badly. so they no longer care about the data being sold. because maybe casinos like that can close their casinos and do similar businesses with different names.
Well, this is basically the reason why using new and untrustworthy casinos is not a good option, one might use a new casino if they want to check it out but they should never complete their KYC verification with them because they are not trustworthy and don't have a good reputation so they can do almost anything with users' data, so a user joining a new platform only to try it out should basically never provide them their personal documents as that isn't free of risk.

I understand that hacks and exploits can even happen with reputable platforms but at least they wouldn't sell the data only to get money which is what a new and untrustworthy casino might do if they need money or even if they are planning to scam their gamblers and run away with their funds.
hero member
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July 06, 2023, 11:43:36 AM
If you data is secret - the best way don`t share it. Nowadays we see how big companies loose their clients data. So when we talking about casino - we have to assume that our data would be stolen. But as for me - we lose our data every day, and if you worry about it - you mustn`t provide your data anybody, not only casino.
The way things are these days with centralized businesses with regulations and licenses and authorities suing and seizing companies and websites, I doubt if users really have any choice. To be able to gamble online, you will either need to provide KYC information or choose to risk your money by choosing a platform that doesn't ask for KYC but isn't trusted and reputable, now it's up to a gambler which of these two options he chooses.

Personally, I would rather choose a trusted and reputable platform and complete my KYC to experience uninterrupted gambling instead of using a platform that I don't trust nor does the community to risk my money and I might not even be able to withdraw if I manage to win something significant.
Exactly. Today i share my data with huge quantity of companies all other the world. And i can`t even name the company that will lose my data. Of course it doesn`t mean that we can KYC everywhere - we have to make at least minimal analyze of the site before KYC, because there are lots of fake sites and sites that were created just to collect users data.
Why anyone or someone would really be that much mindful about such information considering that we've been doing some KYC even with those traditional transactions that we do have in real life or done physically?

It is somewhat understandable that we do really give out that importance when it comes into our privacy on which it would really be just normal that some person would really be that keen on sharing or giving out our information on which having the fear that those information would really be leaking out or being might used on other some reason. Its true that we are really that coming into a point which regulation and
government intervention becomes even more strict, despite that these are really that crypto based related platforms or companies but still they are really that going abiding with their rules and terms.

If you are someone who do make use of such service or whatsoever it would be but they are really that under about government laws then you wouldnt really be having no choice but to comply.
Getting scared? There's no other choice.
hero member
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July 06, 2023, 07:41:16 AM
If you data is secret - the best way don`t share it. Nowadays we see how big companies loose their clients data. So when we talking about casino - we have to assume that our data would be stolen. But as for me - we lose our data every day, and if you worry about it - you mustn`t provide your data anybody, not only casino.
The way things are these days with centralized businesses with regulations and licenses and authorities suing and seizing companies and websites, I doubt if users really have any choice. To be able to gamble online, you will either need to provide KYC information or choose to risk your money by choosing a platform that doesn't ask for KYC but isn't trusted and reputable, now it's up to a gambler which of these two options he chooses.

Personally, I would rather choose a trusted and reputable platform and complete my KYC to experience uninterrupted gambling instead of using a platform that I don't trust nor does the community to risk my money and I might not even be able to withdraw if I manage to win something significant.
Exactly. Today i share my data with huge quantity of companies all other the world. And i can`t even name the company that will lose my data. Of course it doesn`t mean that we can KYC everywhere - we have to make at least minimal analyze of the site before KYC, because there are lots of fake sites and sites that were created just to collect users data.
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July 05, 2023, 06:33:22 PM
 KYC otherwise called know your customer is a
Mandatory policy whereby financial institutions used in identifying their customers it's was mostly used by banks, but later adopted into crypto currency due to fake accounts from bots as well as minimising theft, but of lately the kyc policy have been introduced to gambling World whereby most online casinos and betting sites use it to keep track of the identity of their customers which I find as a very good idea in a case of theft or loss of account to hackers, a customer Could easily prove the ownership of his account without any doubt.

 I see kyc as a very good idea in the gambling sector case it helps reduce risk factors like i stated earlier I've once done kyc on a gambling site with my national Id and till date I've not have any issues with the app misuse of my information by them rather made my account more secure,it also help most bookies identify underage users going against there underage policy.
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July 05, 2023, 12:55:18 PM
In some cases, these casinos claims of hack as a result of data leakage which I see as a cooked up story. In the real sense, most data are being traded in exchange for something based on their agreement.
trading data that the casino might carry out to other parties, it is actually detrimental to the casino. maybe you can argue about their hacked security system, but that will reduce the member's trust.
this kind of thing usually happens in casinos that are almost bankrupt. or indeed their reputation has started badly. so they no longer care about the data being sold. because maybe casinos like that can close their casinos and do similar businesses with different names.

Wether bankrupt, gaining or loosing members trust or not  if they want to sell clients data , they could do it as that is just their ways. If I may ask do you know what goes on within the team members? I know you would tell me no. That is the more reason there is the possibility of they trading with their clients data which is possibly right. Most people have no Idea all these they do and at some point, they act very strange of blocking and suspending clients account which is very terrible and frame up stories just to get data from the client before releasing the wins to them and in some cases, they do not give them their wins not to talk of their investment..
And we will not know what the casinos will do and will only hear from the media. Team members may not be able to work together again if the casino has started to show bankruptcy, and they will get out of the casino to save themselves before the casino goes bankrupt. And a casino that doesn't care about its members will place a lot of requirements on them so that the casino can get their personal identity so they can use it for other purposes. And this is why we won't know where the casino will use all the identities of its members because they could just sell all the identity data to other parties to get money. That's why we have to make sure of the place before we verify on any site to avoid things that might happen in the future. And it's better not to send any document before we are sure they can take good care of it.
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