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Quote from: Odusko on June 16, 2023, 06:38:54 PM

But in reality if i am not doing anything illegal I don't think I have anything to worry about regulators having access to my document after all those documents are issued for days like that when I need to prove my identity.
The only time I will have something to worry about is when gambling is banned in my country, only then I can worry for my safety to becoming careful with my documents, but if that is, not the case then I don't have any issues with the safety of those data as against regulators access.

Yes I agree with you. That if don't have legal problems, don't need to be afraid if our activities are discovered through KYC regulations. However, it is possible that our kyc is broken into by a hacker and the data is misused.

In my country gambling is an illegal activity. so maybe it's better to play at a casino that doesn't require kyc. Until now, I haven't had any problems with the KYC that I entered into the casino. Hope that's fine, no one wants their private documents to be misused

Right now I'm playing at a casino that deposits using crypto, I think it's safer and playing at a casino that doesn't need kyc

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Quote from: paxmao on June 16, 2023, 10:33:20 AM

Decentralized casinos, which operate on blockchain technology, sometimes offer an alternative to traditional casinos by providing more anonymity and removing the need for KYC but obviously they are not entirely foolproof either. As with any online activity, there are inherent risks so using the reputate sites, checking in the forum... those are required.

Yes, but they ended having problems and implement the KYC if the business its doing good and starts tod evelop that "problem", for problem i mean, goverment or agencies who wants info for them and the players.

So you need to be very carefull choosing a good casino and also, making the move before they start to want the KYC done and move to another who still dont need KYC.

But in reality if i am not doing anything illegal I don't think I have anything to worry about regulators having access to my document after all those documents are issued for days like that when I need to prove my identity.
The only time I will have something to worry about is when gambling is banned in my country, only then I can worry for my safety to becoming careful with my documents, but if that is, not the case then I don't have any issues with the safety of those data as against regulators access.

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Quote from: paxmao on June 16, 2023, 10:33:20 AM

Decentralized casinos, which operate on blockchain technology, sometimes offer an alternative to traditional casinos by providing more anonymity and removing the need for KYC but obviously they are not entirely foolproof either. As with any online activity, there are inherent risks so using the reputate sites, checking in the forum... those are required.

Yes, but they ended having problems and implement the KYC if the business its doing good and starts tod evelop that "problem", for problem i mean, goverment or agencies who wants info for them and the players.

So you need to be very carefull choosing a good casino and also, making the move before they start to want the KYC done and move to another who still dont need KYC.

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Quote from: abel1337 on June 16, 2023, 04:56:21 PM

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Quote from: abel1337 on June 16, 2023, 09:01:16 AM

If my information is leaked, there's only two casinos to blame.

But how far can we go in terms of legal action against them?

These casinos are operating in different countries, so it's challenging on our side since there are no specific ways to sue them for leaking our information.

It is sad that I personally don't know what to do and might have no plans in sueing them knowing that it will be a waste of my time and I don't have that much funds to fight against a casino that has a really big budget. The only thing I will do is to just declared that I'm a victim and hope someone will do the initiative for the victims. I'm positive that there are laws that covers an leakage indicident but it will be a though fight and the accuser need to spend a hefty amount of money to fight them.

Most of us would really be definitely be ending up on having no choice but to deal up with the situation because if we do really tend to fight on legal means, you would really still lose because we know that fighting a casino on legal means but having that not enough finances on doing so then expect on where it would be heading.

This is why we do really just make ourselves shut up and accept the situation that we do automatically lose.This is why on the time that we do sent out some verification or kyc on a site whether on an exchange or gambling site then we do really already accept our fate that our information is already leaked out. There's no way that we could really make out assurance that those information are safe with them.
Despite of saying about the security of their database or whatsoever in correlation to it but still there's no way that we could able to know on whats happening behind.

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Quote from: stadus on June 16, 2023, 09:08:44 AM

Quote from: abel1337 on June 16, 2023, 09:01:16 AM

If my information is leaked, there's only two casinos to blame.

But how far can we go in terms of legal action against them?

These casinos are operating in different countries, so it's challenging on our side since there are no specific ways to sue them for leaking our information.

It is sad that I personally don't know what to do and might have no plans in sueing them knowing that it will be a waste of my time and I don't have that much funds to fight against a casino that has a really big budget. The only thing I will do is to just declared that I'm a victim and hope someone will do the initiative for the victims. I'm positive that there are laws that covers an leakage indicident but it will be a though fight and the accuser need to spend a hefty amount of money to fight them.

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Decentralized casinos, which operate on blockchain technology, sometimes offer an alternative to traditional casinos by providing more anonymity and removing the need for KYC but obviously they are not entirely foolproof either. As with any online activity, there are inherent risks so using the reputate sites, checking in the forum... those are required.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 15, 2023, 03:57:52 PM

Quote from: maydna on June 15, 2023, 03:32:27 PM

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Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

We feel lucky if we can get a casino that doesn't ask us to do KYC because that means we get complete freedom in gambling. But if we don't pay attention or control ourselves, that's when we can start experiencing gambling addiction without realizing it. The casino will check which country we are from and will apply the same rules as other members. But if the casino asks us to do KYC one day, we have to be careful and check the casino to ensure that the casino is trusted.

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Quote from: Questat on June 15, 2023, 02:59:36 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on June 15, 2023, 02:01:34 PM

So if the security of the site is weak, then it is better to rather care and worry about the safety of our KYC documents submitted to them otherwise we can choose not to hand out our information and sensitive documents for verification.

If a gambling site's security is weak, it can be easily hacked, resulting in the loss of users' money. That's why it is important to choose a gambling site that has a high volume of gamblers patronizing them. With a significant amount of money at stake, these sites are motivated to prioritize strong security measures to safeguard funds, as well as the information and documents entrusted to them through KYC processes as one mistake could result to ruining their reputation which is a big loss for the business.

There is also one other possible way except hacking, it is by internal naughty staff of the casino who want to make extra money by doing illegal document selling.
No matter how great the security of the casino or any other online services such as exchange, we as users should realize that once we submit our personal data, then we should also ready for any risk.
There are even some official website of a government in a country which is hacked or stolen by internal staff of the government who want to sell the data to other parties.

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There are no guarantees that any documents and data you send online will ever be deleted even if the company you’re sending your data to claims to do so

That said
It’s unlikely that on big and reputable websites you’ll have problems with your data and documents.
It could always happen but we don’t hear a lot about it

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Quote from: khaled0111 on June 15, 2023, 07:04:28 PM

^^
This is why you shouldn't trust all services when uploading your files.
Some casinos, most of them are reputable ones, use third party companies to verify customers identities.
If you trust the casino you are playing at, can you trust the third party companies they are dealing with!
As I said in one of my previous posts: the moment you upload one of your documents, you should consider it as compromised regardless of the service you upload it to.

Usually big casinos won't ask for it if something odd is detected and make a big withdrawal or big win, usually the casino will ask the user to complete KYC including asking the user to upload an identity file to make sure even though it's hard to trust the casino but we are faced with withdrawal and account freezing so it doesn't can withdraw money.

Usually people who are asked for KYC and provide document files of course because of this problem and two possibilities they can't refuse either because casino regulations have stipulated that whenever the casino has the right to ask users to complete KYC. that's why sometimes it's safe or unsafe, everything returns to the users, as long as it's a trusted casino site, everything is safe in my opinion.

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Quote from: abel1337 on June 16, 2023, 09:01:16 AM

If my information is leaked, there's only two casinos to blame.

But how far can we go in terms of legal action against them?

These casinos are operating in different countries, so it's challenging on our side since there are no specific ways to sue them for leaking our information.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 16, 2023, 05:21:56 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on June 16, 2023, 02:07:57 AM

Just make sure that you are just using small amount of capital, it's very likely to submit verification
when you have huge amount of money to withdraw.

That's typically the scenario with most gambling sites. Some sites don't require Know Your Customer (KYC) verification initially, but once you start winning significant amounts, they may trigger the KYC process. Currently, most of the gambling sites I play on do not require KYC. However, I have familiarized myself with the information in case they do require it. You are correct that we should not invest a large amount of capital as it could be compromised if we fail to meet the KYC requirements.

if casinos declared that they will collect KYC, this doesnt mean that they will collect it early on. It is a nice thing that there are casino that only collect KYC when there are rediculous amount of money that is being taken out from their casino or if there are unusual activity on the account. Many gamblers are spared from doing KYC even if it is required. I myself only submitted a KYC on a separate casino twice even though I play on different casino. If my information is leaked, there's only two casinos to blame.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 01, 2023, 11:02:18 PM

Thanks for all the discussions. I read a lot of comments. That many people disagree with kyc. But I haven't seen anyone commenting that there was fraud or KYC abuse from gambling sites. Hope I didn't miss that comment.

Is it just over-worrying?

Probably. The general opinion is that when you send KYC documents they are potentially compromised, but this happens even on large exchanges like Coinbase, where data can be hacked or even sold by them. In general, the more reputable the casino or the site in general, the less likely it is that there will be a problem with your data, but once you have submitted it, you can't be sure of anything.

It is that in this life there is nothing Safe , it may be that we are on the most secure Platform in the World, even so they can suffer Hacking attacks or Similar things, and if so, they can easily filter the data that we do not want to be Filtered and there goodbye to everything , so it is not the idea either, because we always trust the game platforms, we do what we see fit but still we could have that high probability that things get out of hand and get out of hand but, That is why many disagree with KYC , especially when it is in crypto casinos , it is not what it should be , because that is why crypto is used to skip all these requirements.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 16, 2023, 02:07:57 AM

Just make sure that you are just using small amount of capital, it's very likely to submit verification
when you have huge amount of money to withdraw.

That's typically the scenario with most gambling sites. Some sites don't require Know Your Customer (KYC) verification initially, but once you start winning significant amounts, they may trigger the KYC process. Currently, most of the gambling sites I play on do not require KYC. However, I have familiarized myself with the information in case they do require it. You are correct that we should not invest a large amount of capital as it could be compromised if we fail to meet the KYC requirements.

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Quote from: maydna on June 15, 2023, 03:32:27 PM

It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

I think there are some countries that are very strict and the casino may require KYC for gamblers from the region so that it will aid them to checkmate the proper regulation from the country. Country like Canada, US, England and other European countries are very stricts when it comes to KYC. Casinos have no option than to succome to rules to continue there stay in the region. For me, I don't like KYC casinos so always observe and ask questions when I want to use new casinos to bet. Leaving our information on casinos can be very risky, mostly when we do that with random casinos or online exchanges. It is good for us to have some atom of privacy when we gamble online.

They have that strong regulation to make sure the existence of their permits will not be affected in case issue
comes out because of any regulations that imply to KYC.

If you are not comfortable with submitting personal data, it's better to look for any place that will allow you to continue playing.

Just make sure that you are just using small amount of capital, it's very likely to submit verification
when you have huge amount of money to withdraw.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 15, 2023, 03:57:52 PM

Quote from: maydna on June 15, 2023, 03:32:27 PM

It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

I think there are some countries that are very strict and the casino may require KYC for gamblers from the region so that it will aid them to checkmate the proper regulation from the country. Country like Canada, US, England and other European countries are very stricts when it comes to KYC. Casinos have no option than to succome to rules to continue there stay in the region. For me, I don't like KYC casinos so always observe and ask questions when I want to use new casinos to bet. Leaving our information on casinos can be very risky, mostly when we do that with random casinos or online exchanges. It is good for us to have some atom of privacy when we gamble online.

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^^
This is why you shouldn't trust all services when uploading your files.
Some casinos, most of them are reputable ones, use third party companies to verify customers identities.
If you trust the casino you are playing at, can you trust the third party companies they are dealing with!
As I said in one of my previous posts: the moment you upload one of your documents, you should consider it as compromised regardless of the service you upload it to.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on June 15, 2023, 05:55:33 PM

Quote from: mirakal on June 15, 2023, 03:57:52 PM

Quote from: maydna on June 15, 2023, 03:32:27 PM

It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

But you should not forget to check their ToS in terms of KYC requirements.
Even if they are not requiring you to submit one, you need to remind yourself that if it is stated on their terms,
you should always prepare your KYC docs, and should correspond to the details you entered to the site to avoid trouble.
We can't be so sure that these casinos won't ask KYC from you. They can easily do random checks and ask your credentials.

Checking the Tos to get familiar with the KYC requirement and how the casino handles kyc data make more sense than practically neglecting the to and there after blame the casino if you kyc data never get approved or not, but once you get verification for the submitted documents, the security of the data provided is now left in the hands of the casino and how the store those data becomes their responsibility most time we are unaware of what happen to those data afterwards but we trust the casino to protect our privacy as much as possible.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 15, 2023, 03:57:52 PM

Quote from: maydna on June 15, 2023, 03:32:27 PM

It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

But you should not forget to check their ToS in terms of KYC requirements.
Even if they are not requiring you to submit one, you need to remind yourself that if it is stated on their terms,
you should always prepare your KYC docs, and should correspond to the details you entered to the site to avoid trouble.
We can't be so sure that these casinos won't ask KYC from you. They can easily do random checks and ask your credentials.

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Quote from: maydna on June 15, 2023, 03:32:27 PM

It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

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