Topic: is KYC data on Gambling sites safe? - page 6. (Read 2736 times)

Quote from: SirLancelot on June 23, 2023, 02:01:44 AM

Quote from: khaled0111 on June 23, 2023, 07:48:35 PM

it's logical since no one would really try playing on a casino that request a KYC up front.

This isn't accurate since many gamblers play at popular sites like Roobet, Stake etc who mandatorily enforce KYC since they trust those sites completely. Some gamblers provide fake KYC in these sites which is a risky approach.

Mandatory KYC(Any Level) sucks regardless of how popular the site is in my honest opinion.

I don't think that casinos or any platform ask their players or customers to complete KYC verification because they like to do it, but they do it because it is enforced by the regulatory bodies that issue licenses to these platforms, so they are basically compelled to make it mandatory for customers to complete KYC verification before they can access all the features of the platform including withdrawals which is the most important thing in my opinion.

So we shouldn't really blame the platforms for imposing KYC and making it mandatory, we know that a lot of gamblers leave a certain platform only because it requires KYC and I don't think any business would like that but they are compelled to comply with the AML rules.

Also gamblers choose those trusted casino like what you said above it because they need to have the assurance cause KYC is very informative cause they will ask some of our private information which pretty good if we choose a trusted one in order to avoid such mistakes and spread our identity in the wrong and scammer casino. For me as long as the casino is trusted enough then there's no doubt that I will give some of my Private information.

More on how you trust the site and nothing else, if you feel that casino already have established business and you are okay in providing KYC, meaning to say that you are willing to give your personal data, do your diligence to investigate and not just because you play and you experienced something or you heard that the site is quite good then you will give your personal information. Make sure that you are really done investigating and you are aware of the consequence after you submit your data.

That's true but these days gamblers don't care about anything and even if the site leaks their data they don't care about it. They are intentionally doing KYC on those sites because most people think that KYC is a necessity on the sites where you can earn money. The same case is with the users who have their accounts on crypto-sites, they are also doing their KYC because it has been feeded in their mind that KYC is necessary to get your money and earnings into your bank accounts. Even those sites that have been in industry for more than 2 years or more can sometimes misuse the KYC data. I have heard that KYC data is getting sold for solid rates on black markets, and if that's true then doing KYC on any website is unsafe, and if a user does that then they are willing accepting the fact that their data can be leaked or hacked and will be shared with many people.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 22, 2023, 05:14:27 PM

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Some reputable casinos use third party verifiers. Your documents will be sent to those verifiers and will remain encrypted on their servers. Those verifiers are licensed companies and according to the laws they will delete all your data if you request so.
What's funny is that a random casino asked a customer to provide his documents through live chat! How reliable is this? Such casinos should never be trusted.

It would be nice for one-time KYC. The gambler send data to the verifier, casino asks this verifier to KYC the gambler, after it the gambler asks verifier to delete data. But in this situation casino mustn`t KYC again and must has some mark that this gambler don`t need KYC one more time. Well-known casinos willn`t have any problems with it i think. The same time fake casinos willn`t agree such kind of KYC i think.

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Quote from: btc78 on June 22, 2023, 02:28:50 AM

Quote from: komisariatku on May 30, 2023, 11:26:37 AM

As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.

Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

if you don't want to go KYC verification then dont gamble in those casino that asks this .

there are still casinos out there that free from KYC .

and still , I want to know the complete details why people hate bringing kyc in online gambling when that is the reality , maybe not now but sooner it will be implemented for all.

It is not really that complicated, this market in general gave a greater degree of privacy to the people that adopted it years ago, so they got used to it very quickly, and now we are seeing those freedoms we had are disappearing before our eyes and people are not taking this lightly.

But as you said this is already becoming the norm and during the next years it is bound to get even worse, so people will need to take a decision, to stop gambling completely or simply accept this new reality and move on.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on June 23, 2023, 02:01:44 AM

I don't think that casinos or any platform ask their players or customers to complete KYC verification because they like to do it, but they do it because it is enforced by the regulatory bodies that issue licenses to these platforms, so they are basically compelled to make it mandatory for customers to complete KYC verification before they can access all the features of the platform including withdrawals which is the most important thing in my opinion.

So we shouldn't really blame the platforms for imposing KYC and making it mandatory, we know that a lot of gamblers leave a certain platform only because it requires KYC and I don't think any business would like that but they are compelled to comply with the AML rules.

I disagree. If this were truly the case, why aren't all crypto casinos enforcing mandatory KYC? I play at sites like Crypto.Games, Bitcasino, Sportsbet etc where they don't enforce mandatory KYC.

Crypto gambling sites are forced by regulators to enforce KYC for sure, but they don't need to make it mandatory under certain conditions.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 22, 2023, 05:14:27 PM

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Some reputable casinos use third party verifiers. Your documents will be sent to those verifiers and will remain encrypted on their servers. Those verifiers are licensed companies and according to the laws they will delete all your data if you request so.
What's funny is that a random casino asked a customer to provide his documents through live chat! How reliable is this? Such casinos should never be trusted.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on June 23, 2023, 02:01:44 AM

Quote from: danadc on June 23, 2023, 02:10:43 PM

it's logical since no one would really try playing on a casino that request a KYC up front.

This isn't accurate since many gamblers play at popular sites like Roobet, Stake etc who mandatorily enforce KYC since they trust those sites completely. Some gamblers provide fake KYC in these sites which is a risky approach.

Mandatory KYC(Any Level) sucks regardless of how popular the site is in my honest opinion.

I don't think that casinos or any platform ask their players or customers to complete KYC verification because they like to do it, but they do it because it is enforced by the regulatory bodies that issue licenses to these platforms, so they are basically compelled to make it mandatory for customers to complete KYC verification before they can access all the features of the platform including withdrawals which is the most important thing in my opinion.

So we shouldn't really blame the platforms for imposing KYC and making it mandatory, we know that a lot of gamblers leave a certain platform only because it requires KYC and I don't think any business would like that but they are compelled to comply with the AML rules.

Also gamblers choose those trusted casino like what you said above it because they need to have the assurance cause KYC is very informative cause they will ask some of our private information which pretty good if we choose a trusted one in order to avoid such mistakes and spread our identity in the wrong and scammer casino. For me as long as the casino is trusted enough then there's no doubt that I will give some of my Private information.

More on how you trust the site and nothing else, if you feel that casino already have established business and you are okay in providing KYC, meaning to say that you are willing to give your personal data, do your diligence to investigate and not just because you play and you experienced something or you heard that the site is quite good then you will give your personal information. Make sure that you are really done investigating and you are aware of the consequence after you submit your data.

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Quote from: delfastTions on June 23, 2023, 07:22:55 AM

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Also gamblers choose those trusted casino like what you said above it because they need to have the assurance cause KYC is very informative cause they will ask some of our private information which pretty good if we choose a trusted one in order to avoid such mistakes and spread our identity in the wrong and scammer casino. For me as long as the casino is trusted enough then there's no doubt that I will give some of my Private information.

And I think KYC is extremely harmful and already very outdated and generally completely unnecessary procedure.

The fact is that the digital footprint of any Internet user is already so large and informative that you just need to go to some serious promoted service with connected personality recognition programs, using AI, or simply with a well-built Big Data analysis, and on the receiving side already reliably with a probability of 99.9% know who you are. The question is - why do you need to once again give your data to someone else and replenish information in the global databases of personal data. It's just a waste of your time. Therefore, all these KYCs should already start to die and remain in 2010-2020. And now no one really needs them, and even harmful because they take up your precious time.

I have never been in agreement with the kyc , there are many incidents with the people who do it , and sometimes they are robbed in their own house thanks to the fact that their data was leaked, and thus they have managed to carry out large thefts in bitcoin, in this aspect the things when they try to do kyc the players are more jealous, they don't like it, they disagree, I have done KYC in the preferred casino, only in duelbits because otherwise I have not done kyc in n'pasm but for that reason It's that I always use the casino, so when they ask me for a kyc I don't play Again it makes me angry because sometimes I make a deposit and win , sometimes it is invetiblte to comply with a kyc to be able to Withdraw Money.

There are still people that like betting on a KYC casinos and they have no problem with that because they feel they are safe with the type of games they play in the casino. It is very important for us to ask questions so that we can know if what we are doing is right or wrong. Gamblers that think they are okay with the way they bet and the reward they get might think that is the highest level one can reach. We see others results, that can convince us to improve on the way we gamble to earn more from the efforts we put in gambling.

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Also gamblers choose those trusted casino like what you said above it because they need to have the assurance cause KYC is very informative cause they will ask some of our private information which pretty good if we choose a trusted one in order to avoid such mistakes and spread our identity in the wrong and scammer casino. For me as long as the casino is trusted enough then there's no doubt that I will give some of my Private information.

And I think KYC is extremely harmful and already very outdated and generally completely unnecessary procedure.

The fact is that the digital footprint of any Internet user is already so large and informative that you just need to go to some serious promoted service with connected personality recognition programs, using AI, or simply with a well-built Big Data analysis, and on the receiving side already reliably with a probability of 99.9% know who you are. The question is - why do you need to once again give your data to someone else and replenish information in the global databases of personal data. It's just a waste of your time. Therefore, all these KYCs should already start to die and remain in 2010-2020. And now no one really needs them, and even harmful because they take up your precious time.

I have never been in agreement with the kyc , there are many incidents with the people who do it , and sometimes they are robbed in their own house thanks to the fact that their data was leaked, and thus they have managed to carry out large thefts in bitcoin, in this aspect the things when they try to do kyc the players are more jealous, they don't like it, they disagree, I have done KYC in the preferred casino, only in duelbits because otherwise I have not done kyc in n'pasm but for that reason It's that I always use the casino, so when they ask me for a kyc I don't play Again it makes me angry because sometimes I make a deposit and win , sometimes it is invetiblte to comply with a kyc to be able to Withdraw Money.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on June 23, 2023, 02:01:44 AM

Also gamblers choose those trusted casino like what you said above it because they need to have the assurance cause KYC is very informative cause they will ask some of our private information which pretty good if we choose a trusted one in order to avoid such mistakes and spread our identity in the wrong and scammer casino. For me as long as the casino is trusted enough then there's no doubt that I will give some of my Private information.

And I think KYC is extremely harmful and already very outdated and generally completely unnecessary procedure.

The fact is that the digital footprint of any Internet user is already so large and informative that you just need to go to some serious promoted service with connected personality recognition programs, using AI, or simply with a well-built Big Data analysis, and on the receiving side already reliably with a probability of 99.9% know who you are. The question is - why do you need to once again give your data to someone else and replenish information in the global databases of personal data. It's just a waste of your time. Therefore, all these KYCs should already start to die and remain in 2010-2020. And now no one really needs them, and even harmful because they take up your precious time.

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it's logical since no one would really try playing on a casino that request a KYC up front.

This isn't accurate since many gamblers play at popular sites like Roobet, Stake etc who mandatorily enforce KYC since they trust those sites completely. Some gamblers provide fake KYC in these sites which is a risky approach.

Mandatory KYC(Any Level) sucks regardless of how popular the site is in my honest opinion.

I don't think that casinos or any platform ask their players or customers to complete KYC verification because they like to do it, but they do it because it is enforced by the regulatory bodies that issue licenses to these platforms, so they are basically compelled to make it mandatory for customers to complete KYC verification before they can access all the features of the platform including withdrawals which is the most important thing in my opinion.

So we shouldn't really blame the platforms for imposing KYC and making it mandatory, we know that a lot of gamblers leave a certain platform only because it requires KYC and I don't think any business would like that but they are compelled to comply with the AML rules.

Also gamblers choose those trusted casino like what you said above it because they need to have the assurance cause KYC is very informative cause they will ask some of our private information which pretty good if we choose a trusted one in order to avoid such mistakes and spread our identity in the wrong and scammer casino. For me as long as the casino is trusted enough then there's no doubt that I will give some of my Private information.

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