Anyone 'chasing or exploring' the payments from MU address' - I keep finding things like 100BTC bets to satoshi dice etc. - I think the guy ended up scamming a LOT more than he thought he would, hence 'silly' bets and also like he wanted rid of 'the evidence'.
I've started a list of wallets with a lot in them(that have been sent them indirectly thru MU ID's etc.), to be honest they could all be legit but I feel I may have atleast 1 person wallet of his!
Topic: Is miningunited.com a SCAM, turning .1 bitcoins into .137 for almost free? - page 4. (Read 28717 times)
May 20, 2013, 02:52:15 PM
May 20, 2013, 02:41:14 PM
I am at work right now, so I don't have time for a full explanation, but will respond later on today. The 2 missing payments of 0.05 bitcoins to the 1Q address was to the premium account wallet address. The 1Q address was a mining united premium account.
Now, as I said, I do not know why he gave me a full bitcoin for the emergency refund. I was entitled to only 0.4 bitcoins total. Can't explain that one.
Btw, I appreciate you for doing the legwork and checking my blockchains. It is helping me show that I'm not BSing anyone and laying out the facts of my use of the service.
Now, as I said, I do not know why he gave me a full bitcoin for the emergency refund. I was entitled to only 0.4 bitcoins total. Can't explain that one.
Btw, I appreciate you for doing the legwork and checking my blockchains. It is helping me show that I'm not BSing anyone and laying out the facts of my use of the service.
May 20, 2013, 02:32:25 PM
...yeah anyone who got an 'emergency refund' of "too much"
feel free to share your gains with the less fortunate!
1PZ2cRn17Y54VkHuq9R1kqWEPAhGe6kw5e <3
Also..
If you follow the largest chunks of payments through BTC addresses, they take you to today with still what I would class as 'large' amounts being passed round.. Might start taking note of suspicious wallet ID's that could be linked.
Feel free to: anyone who bought a 'package' at MU, PM me with the address they sent their payment to! (it changed every few days/weeks)
- Going to follow the largest chunks and see where the majority is ending up because it only seems to be a few ID's with a lot of BTC.
feel free to share your gains with the less fortunate!
1PZ2cRn17Y54VkHuq9R1kqWEPAhGe6kw5e <3
Also..
If you follow the largest chunks of payments through BTC addresses, they take you to today with still what I would class as 'large' amounts being passed round.. Might start taking note of suspicious wallet ID's that could be linked.
Feel free to: anyone who bought a 'package' at MU, PM me with the address they sent their payment to! (it changed every few days/weeks)
- Going to follow the largest chunks and see where the majority is ending up because it only seems to be a few ID's with a lot of BTC.
May 20, 2013, 02:16:21 PM
Too good to be true=99% scam.
May 20, 2013, 02:13:34 PM
...(blubber #1)...
Actually, I never got paid for 4 packages. A 0.25 on 5-8-13, a 0.05 on 5-8-13, a 0.05 on 5-11-13, and a 0.05 on 5-12-13. Why I got a full 1 BTC, I don't know.
...(blubber #2)...
Even if there was such a payment, that would mean that you had 0.4 BTC in orders not yet paid out. So, why would you get 1 BTC?
Well... in this case, I gotta have to crawl out of my hole and announce myself as a so-called "dumb idiot" who was also scammed by M.U. despite of reading some warnings here. Now I got this painful experience (lost my first hard-earned 0.25 BTCs) and had learned my lessons. Yeah, it was truly painful as a beginner but yet good to remember for myself as reference.
Now on to another part of this topic:
If blueblade123 got a so-called 1 BTC emergency refund although he only invested 0.4 BTC, how about sending the rest to others... like myself? If you need proof, I can post these right here if no one objects.
I know that others being scammed could protest that they should get being refunded first, so I'm leaving the decision to blueblade123 alone what to do whether to keep it, got another idea or whatever.
Just my (also first) two cents.
Edit: Forgot to close a quote...
May 20, 2013, 01:57:07 PM
Just finished my bible @ ic3.gov 
Hopefully others have too!
Hopefully others have too!
May 20, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
Great post, thanks
May 20, 2013, 01:33:08 PM
That was a totally seperate payment, not for a mining package. That 0.25 was from Mining United in response to a forum post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189872.20 Post #26. This was when he was questioned about gambling on Satoshidice.
Ok, the reason for that payment checks outs and the times do match up.
Again, not really. There are some small transfers in my wallet. For a while I was doing the bitcoin faucets, and I did receive another bonus on 5-11-13 from Mining United for another forum post, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2106728 Post # 4. Payment was 0.0125, and also paid for a Mining United Premium Membership, 0.3 bitcoins on 5-11-13. Made a sale on Bitcointalk forum, 0.4 bitcoins on 5-18-13, and finally spent 0.32403 on Bitmit on 5-18-13.
Those payments are irrelevant to what MiningUnited would owe you.
Actually, I never got paid for 4 packages. A 0.25 on 5-8-13, a 0.05 on 5-8-13, a 0.05 on 5-11-13, and a 0.05 on 5-12-13. Why I got a full 1 BTC, I don't know.
As you said the last official payment for service was at 2013-05-04 16:03:55. Here's the list of payment you've made from the address, 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx. As you can see, that next service you bought was paid for at 2013-05-08 03:55:47 for 0.25 BTC, then 2013-05-08 03:57:02 for 0.05 BTC, the only other possible payments you could have made to MiningUnited were the 2 for 0.05 BTC to address 1Q8wC2Z2CkqMB6h9LwXVnKpnsWv9G3DiX8. By using your payment address and checking your position in MiningUnited's queue, we can see that your orders number were 2730 for 0.25, 2734 for 0.5. That's the 2 known unpaid orders. The next orders are 3114 and 3135. If we check the address of order 3134, which is 1NZkyjA8qhsxAPRegZCNCJYrUkJHYenHfe, then there should be a 0.05 payment to 1Q8wC2Z2CkqMB6h9LwXVnKpnsWv9G3DiX8 just before your last one at 2013-05-12 13:51:15. There was no such payment.
Even if there was such a payment, that would mean that you had 0.4 BTC in orders not yet paid out. So, why would you get 1 BTC?
The facts speak for themselves.
May 20, 2013, 01:11:55 PM
But then again blind faith was also a strong supporter
As with Blueblade, I was supporting the site as I had a positive experience with them myself but this was before the "promo's" etc. started appearing..
& @ Blueblade, apologies for the suspicion, - the t-shirt quote would have fitted perfectly if it was you!
May 20, 2013, 09:20:28 AM
The individual registered MiningUnited with domainsbyproxy.com, which is private to the public but not to DomainsByProxy. There are so many digital trails left by this fool, you could easily track him/her down if it's worth your time. I lost a little under 4 BTC (1.5 of which was returned through MU) and completely invested knowing I was gambling that BTC; it was my best option at mining free BTC and I took the risk... and lost. I filed through ic3.gov and have done my own research to track the individual. If the FBI were to actually get on this case, which could happen if enough people file at ic3.gov, they could catch them in a day of work, easily.
May 20, 2013, 06:40:19 AM
Holy Witchhunt Batman! Well that took a left turn real quick. Even though I don't have to, I will respond to these accusations.
There is no doubt I was a big supporter of Mining United. I've sent many emails back and forth with "owner" and have supported his website. I jumped to defend it due to the fact that it was something brand new that hadn't been done before, and people were calling it a scam right away, with NO proof that it was. The idea behind it was plausible, and could work. On my very first post, moderator tysat edited my first post and put a scam warning on it. I took offense to it because there was no proof that it was a scam, and I was getting a return on my investments.
Now, to answer some questions, and get things straightened out.
The same [email protected] ?
Yes, email was from that email address.
Correct. I purchased a 0.25 package on 4-28-13, and got paid for it on 5-4-13, and the amounts you quoted were correct.
Again, you send 0.25 BTC as shown here and then send another 0.05 as shown here. You then recieve 0.25 BTC as shown here.
Also correct. on 5-8-13 I purchased 2 mining packages. a 0.25, and a 0.05 package. I never did get paid out on them. The last official payment on the mining packages, was the 0.2811 payment you quoted.
That was a totally seperate payment, not for a mining package. That 0.25 was from Mining United in response to a forum post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189872.20 Post #26. This was when he was questioned about gambling on Satoshidice.
They're the only transfers to and from your address, 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx (excluding that final 1 BTC). That would mean you never received a return for that 0.05 payment and the last payment you received was the same amount as what you sent.
Again, not really. There are some small transfers in my wallet. For a while I was doing the bitcoin faucets, and I did receive another bonus on 5-11-13 from Mining United for another forum post, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2106728 Post # 4. Payment was 0.0125, and also paid for a Mining United Premium Membership, 0.3 bitcoins on 5-11-13. Made a sale on Bitcointalk forum, 0.4 bitcoins on 5-18-13, and finally spent 0.32403 on Bitmit on 5-18-13.
Brilliant deduction. Blueblade give me back my .20
Sorry, Barking up the wrong tree. Wasn't me.
Cow Patty
No idea what you're even talking about... Didn't make any new accounts.
Hell, if needed, I can give you my IP address. I wasn't trying to dissuade people from contacting the FBI. I was simply pointing out that it was STUPID to think the FBI would want to jump in and work on a bitcoin case for the reasons I pointed out. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2182005 Post 501.
His forum sig isn't helping his 'innocence' either:
Really?!? It's a play off of a t-shirt I found online.
Now, does anyone need a screenshot of my Wallet to compare everything to?
There is no doubt I was a big supporter of Mining United. I've sent many emails back and forth with "owner" and have supported his website. I jumped to defend it due to the fact that it was something brand new that hadn't been done before, and people were calling it a scam right away, with NO proof that it was. The idea behind it was plausible, and could work. On my very first post, moderator tysat edited my first post and put a scam warning on it. I took offense to it because there was no proof that it was a scam, and I was getting a return on my investments.
Now, to answer some questions, and get things straightened out.
I got it before the hack. He sent me an email saying they were being hacked and sent 1 btc as an emergency refund.
The same [email protected] ?
Yes, email was from that email address.
Blueblade, you're full of crap.
You can see here that you send 0.25 BTC and here you can see that you recieve 0.2811 BTC.
You can see here that you send 0.25 BTC and here you can see that you recieve 0.2811 BTC.
Correct. I purchased a 0.25 package on 4-28-13, and got paid for it on 5-4-13, and the amounts you quoted were correct.
Again, you send 0.25 BTC as shown here and then send another 0.05 as shown here. You then recieve 0.25 BTC as shown here.
Also correct. on 5-8-13 I purchased 2 mining packages. a 0.25, and a 0.05 package. I never did get paid out on them. The last official payment on the mining packages, was the 0.2811 payment you quoted.
You then recieve 0.25 BTC as shown here.
That was a totally seperate payment, not for a mining package. That 0.25 was from Mining United in response to a forum post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189872.20 Post #26. This was when he was questioned about gambling on Satoshidice.
They're the only transfers to and from your address, 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx (excluding that final 1 BTC). That would mean you never received a return for that 0.05 payment and the last payment you received was the same amount as what you sent.
Again, not really. There are some small transfers in my wallet. For a while I was doing the bitcoin faucets, and I did receive another bonus on 5-11-13 from Mining United for another forum post, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2106728 Post # 4. Payment was 0.0125, and also paid for a Mining United Premium Membership, 0.3 bitcoins on 5-11-13. Made a sale on Bitcointalk forum, 0.4 bitcoins on 5-18-13, and finally spent 0.32403 on Bitmit on 5-18-13.
So why would you receive 1 BTC when you were only owed 0.05? Yet you clearly was sent 1 BTC, which only makes sense if you were complicit in the scam.
Actually, I never got paid for 4 packages. A 0.25 on 5-8-13, a 0.05 on 5-8-13, a 0.05 on 5-11-13, and a 0.05 on 5-12-13. Why I got a full 1 BTC, I don't know. Brilliant deduction. Blueblade give me back my .20
Sorry, Barking up the wrong tree. Wasn't me.
Turd
Cow Patty
So, you just made a new account to post that and just happened to receive a payment from CoinAd.com with that address in the same transaction as Blueblade.
Nice try Blueblade, but you just managed to make yourself look even guiltier.
Nice try Blueblade, but you just managed to make yourself look even guiltier.
No idea what you're even talking about... Didn't make any new accounts.
I was leaning this way too, but didn't want to be the first to say it. Also how he tried to dissuade people from reporting the scam to the FBI. I think he really is afraid of the law. Can't a mod or admin just tell us his IP address? Remember, there is a 50BTC bounty on his ass/head.
Hell, if needed, I can give you my IP address. I wasn't trying to dissuade people from contacting the FBI. I was simply pointing out that it was STUPID to think the FBI would want to jump in and work on a bitcoin case for the reasons I pointed out. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2182005 Post 501.
His forum sig isn't helping his 'innocence' either:
Quote
I was young, and needed the Bitcoins... Ohh the things I had to do for those tasty, tasty, Bitcoins... Send a donation: 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx
Really?!? It's a play off of a t-shirt I found online.
Now, does anyone need a screenshot of my Wallet to compare everything to?
May 20, 2013, 02:56:20 AM
But then again blind faith was also a strong supporter
May 20, 2013, 02:49:45 AM
I call bs
Well, bad call Bitpop.
https://blockchain.info/tx/984bb64fe1046e3675b11d41091c26d6d7109e9e5303d1ce1e42e76a420a9145
There it is. Do you need me to repost the email, or you think you can look it up for yourself? It's a couple of pages ago.
Blueblade, you're full of crap.
You can see here that you send 0.25 BTC and here you can see that you recieve 0.2811 BTC.
Again, you send 0.25 BTC as shown here and then send another 0.05 as shown here. You then recieve 0.25 BTC as shown here.
They're the only transfers to and from your address, 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx (excluding that final 1 BTC). That would mean you never received a return for that 0.05 payment and the last payment you received was the same amount as what you sent.
So why would you receive 1 BTC when you were only owed 0.05? Yet you clearly was sent 1 BTC, which only makes sense if you were complicit in the scam. Now, if we look at your posting history, your first post here was to promote MiningUnited as shown here.
It's my opinion that you are the scammer who was running the site.
Brilliant deduction. Blueblade give me back my .20
1JqsdYWZeGS9MknSQC6faT7HAwMfizUY2t
So, you just made a new account to post that and just happened to receive a payment from CoinAd.com with that address in the same transaction as Blueblade.
Nice try Blueblade, but you just managed to make yourself look even guiltier.
His forum sig isn't helping his 'innocence' either:
Quote
I was young, and needed the Bitcoins... Ohh the things I had to do for those tasty, tasty, Bitcoins... Send a donation: 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx
also when you follow BTC transactions related to 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx - there are very close links to 'accounts' with ' a lot' of btc... another suspicion!
May 20, 2013, 02:47:04 AM
Gmail only sends one auto reply every so often.
May 20, 2013, 02:44:43 AM
Website latest:
MiningUnited.com now forwards to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools
Mr. MU if you're reading, BTC1.0 @ 1PZ2cRn17Y54VkHuq9R1kqWEPAhGe6kw5e xx
No 'auto' emails sent back from [email protected] now either!
MiningUnited.com now forwards to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools
Mr. MU if you're reading, BTC1.0 @ 1PZ2cRn17Y54VkHuq9R1kqWEPAhGe6kw5e xx
No 'auto' emails sent back from [email protected] now either!
May 20, 2013, 01:19:37 AM
I call bs
Well, bad call Bitpop.
https://blockchain.info/tx/984bb64fe1046e3675b11d41091c26d6d7109e9e5303d1ce1e42e76a420a9145
There it is. Do you need me to repost the email, or you think you can look it up for yourself? It's a couple of pages ago.
Blueblade, you're full of crap.
You can see here that you send 0.25 BTC and here you can see that you recieve 0.2811 BTC.
Again, you send 0.25 BTC as shown here and then send another 0.05 as shown here. You then recieve 0.25 BTC as shown here.
They're the only transfers to and from your address, 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx (excluding that final 1 BTC). That would mean you never received a return for that 0.05 payment and the last payment you received was the same amount as what you sent.
So why would you receive 1 BTC when you were only owed 0.05? Yet you clearly was sent 1 BTC, which only makes sense if you were complicit in the scam. Now, if we look at your posting history, your first post here was to promote MiningUnited as shown here.
It's my opinion that you are the scammer who was running the site.
I was leaning this way too, but didn't want to be the first to say it. Also how he tried to dissuade people from reporting the scam to the FBI. I think he really is afraid of the law. Can't a mod or admin just tell us his IP address? Remember, there is a 50BTC bounty on his ass/head.
May 20, 2013, 01:15:59 AM
I call bs
Well, bad call Bitpop.
https://blockchain.info/tx/984bb64fe1046e3675b11d41091c26d6d7109e9e5303d1ce1e42e76a420a9145
There it is. Do you need me to repost the email, or you think you can look it up for yourself? It's a couple of pages ago.
Blueblade, you're full of crap.
You can see here that you send 0.25 BTC and here you can see that you recieve 0.2811 BTC.
Again, you send 0.25 BTC as shown here and then send another 0.05 as shown here. You then recieve 0.25 BTC as shown here.
They're the only transfers to and from your address, 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx (excluding that final 1 BTC). That would mean you never received a return for that 0.05 payment and the last payment you received was the same amount as what you sent.
So why would you receive 1 BTC when you were only owed 0.05? Yet you clearly was sent 1 BTC, which only makes sense if you were complicit in the scam. Now, if we look at your posting history, your first post here was to promote MiningUnited as shown here.
It's my opinion that you are the scammer who was running the site.
Brilliant deduction. Blueblade give me back my .20
1JqsdYWZeGS9MknSQC6faT7HAwMfizUY2t
So, you just made a new account to post that and just happened to receive a payment from CoinAd.com with that address in the same transaction as Blueblade.
Nice try Blueblade, but you just managed to make yourself look even guiltier.
May 20, 2013, 01:04:02 AM
Turd
Well, bad call Bitpop.
https://blockchain.info/tx/984bb64fe1046e3675b11d41091c26d6d7109e9e5303d1ce1e42e76a420a9145
There it is. Do you need me to repost the email, or you think you can look it up for yourself? It's a couple of pages ago.
I call bs
Well, bad call Bitpop.
https://blockchain.info/tx/984bb64fe1046e3675b11d41091c26d6d7109e9e5303d1ce1e42e76a420a9145
There it is. Do you need me to repost the email, or you think you can look it up for yourself? It's a couple of pages ago.
May 20, 2013, 01:02:18 AM
The criminal is always at the crime scene. One of these accounts is him watching and laughing at us. While also scared someone might find his home address.
May 20, 2013, 12:04:55 AM
I call bs
Well, bad call Bitpop.
https://blockchain.info/tx/984bb64fe1046e3675b11d41091c26d6d7109e9e5303d1ce1e42e76a420a9145
There it is. Do you need me to repost the email, or you think you can look it up for yourself? It's a couple of pages ago.
Blueblade, you're full of crap.
You can see here that you send 0.25 BTC and here you can see that you recieve 0.2811 BTC.
Again, you send 0.25 BTC as shown here and then send another 0.05 as shown here. You then recieve 0.25 BTC as shown here.
They're the only transfers to and from your address, 1PSnLUwMqAa6qXb9XkMcFekAsntJbHwNNx (excluding that final 1 BTC). That would mean you never received a return for that 0.05 payment and the last payment you received was the same amount as what you sent.
So why would you receive 1 BTC when you were only owed 0.05? Yet you clearly was sent 1 BTC, which only makes sense if you were complicit in the scam. Now, if we look at your posting history, your first post here was to promote MiningUnited as shown here.
It's my opinion that you are the scammer who was running the site.
Brilliant deduction. Blueblade give me back my .20
1JqsdYWZeGS9MknSQC6faT7HAwMfizUY2t
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