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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2022, 02:33:39 PM

This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian.

The creator, Satoshi Nakamoto might be also British, American, Japanese or whoever he wanted. My point is that no one really knew his exact identity or where did he live or where was he born. There's a lot of speculation that might be connected to his identity but up to this point, nobody was able to prove about his whereabouts. The fact that he is already clever enough to create bitcoin means that he's also clever enough to conceal his identity.

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There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?

You already said it yourself, the evidence you laid is not really concrete. The Russians may have been in the forum since 2010 but that is not proof to say that SN is Russian. My theory why the Russian Board is very active is because not all of them can understand and talk English which is the universal language, they are just all congested in one board.

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Your points are nice. If the local board carry the highest score the same users are also in the main board. But I would not take that points to say Satoshi is from Russia because 3 or more countries in geo-political zone can form one board. Just like in West Africa, there is Nigerians Local Thread for Pidgin English, and if any other country in the West Africa that can speak Pidgin English can make comments in the thread, and that will also increase the activities of the local thread. And probably that is what has happened to the Russian board. Therefore, I can not say Satoshi is from Russia. But my presumption is that, He, Satoshi is from America. But someone said, Russians were the first to join the forum, and if that is true then what OP is saying is not far from the truth.

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Well, if you have drawn these statistics when Satoshi were still active on this forum, it would still mean nothing. You cannot extrapolate any individual activity from the "activity" statistics of a group of users to identify him/her. Roll Eyes

There has been several vocabulary experts trying to identify him/her through their posts that was done on this forum and their finding was not that he or she were Russian. (They even looked at the time of the posts to try and determine on what timezone Satoshi were) Grin

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Until now, Satoshi's identity or privacy is still very guarded and I think that we, as active members in this forum, also need to maintain that privacy, even though I myself do not know where Satoshi came from.

Regarding the Russian local board posting matrix, it is very high compared to other countries, we cannot make it as an assumption that Satoshi is from there. The level of activity of members on the local board depends on the personal comfort of each member of this forum although being more active on the local board is also better for the progress of the local board itself.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on November 30, 2022, 04:03:23 AM

Quote from: Hispo on November 29, 2022, 02:46:21 PM

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I did not know that Russia had blocked access to this forum, because the huge amount of people from there who participate here in Bitcointalk, sounds counter productive for the Russian government to try to ban something they can't enforce, imo.
Also, I never fully understood why some people unironically believe Satoshi is dead or was assassinated, he seemed to be clever enough to stay fully anonymous and left the forum early enough, I assume he foresaw the attention that was coming towards him and left.

I like to think he is alive and enjoying an early retirement somewhere.

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They only block any url related to bitcoin? But I think this one can be bypassed easily either by just using some tools that change the url like url shortener or they can also use a VPN. No wonder why the post on the Russian local boards of this forum is still high but it's not enough evidence to say that satoshi is Russian.

The claim can be more valid if you saw that most of satoshi's post are from Russian boards. There are many Russians in the forum because Russia is a big country and then Russians are into bitcoin even if btc on them isn't totally legal but I think the status of btc had changed during the war and Russia have been sanctioned because their government started using btc that time.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2022, 02:33:39 PM

This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.

If Nigerians one day become dominant on the forum, will that mean that Satoshi is perhaps from Nigeria?

Such pointless discussions lead nowhere, because the real name and nationality of the person behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto is completely irrelevant. Satoshi didn't invent Bitcoin just for Russians or Nigerians or anyone else in particular, and that's why he decided to remain anonymous.

Perhaps Satoshi was an alien whose spaceship crashed on Earth, and while repairing his spaceship he invented Bitcoin along the way - and is gone because he returned to his home planet in the constellation Taurus Wink

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Satoshi being from a particular country wouldn't make this country more into Bitcoin or more active on the forum (or specifically on local boards), especially since nobody knows Satoshi's identity and country of origin. Moreover, local board activity doesn't mean that 'the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries'. It might just mean that while other nations tend to speak English and take part in the main sections of the forum, fewer Russians speak English well and/or are willing to communicate in it and prefer the local board. Furthermore, it's a big exaggeration to count all who speak Russian as Russians. Ukrainians are often fluent Russian speakers, Belarusians as well, and there are very sizeable numbers of Russian speakers in other countries like Kazakhstan or Estonia. Which can again significantly contribute to the local board posting while not meaning that there are more Russians here than everyone else. So the data on local board doesn't even say that Russians dominate the local board sections, let alone that Russia is huge on Bitcoin adoption or that Satoshi is Russian.

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1. I am not Russian, however, russian is one of the languages I speak and I often check there.
2. There are a lot of people who are not Russian, however, russian language is de facto first language for them. Lots of them.
3. I think people in Russian section of this site (and I think everywhere generally) tend to argue a lot. Those who speaks russian they know :-) that creates a lot of content.

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You misunderstand. If a person speaks Russian, it is not at all necessary that he be Russian. Also, for those interested in history, the USSR consisted of republics whose language was predominantly Russian. Later, when the USSR was divided into separate republics and the CIS appeared, the language of communication, albeit to a lesser extent, remained Russian. Therefore, not all people in the Russian-speaking section belong to Russia. From this, you can conclude that it is absolutely not necessary for some to bypass the blocking that Russia has for this forum.
As for Satoshi, I like your idea

. There's a lot to like here. A lot of brilliant discoveries were created by Russian-speaking people.

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Quote from: Hispo on November 29, 2022, 02:46:21 PM

I do not why there are some many people from Russia here on Bitcointalk, I do not mind, at all.
I have just assumed to this day that people from Russia have a natural attraction towards technology, cryptography and computer science. I may be completely wrong though. Tongue

Citizens of Russia and Ukraine actively communicate in the Russian-language section of the Bitcointalk forum.

In Russia, access to the forum is blocked, but the citizens of the Russian Federation are used to various bans from the Government, so they use VPN technology to visit the forum.

Russian-speaking users are very fond of IT technologies, many of them have a higher technical education, in addition, they really like to communicate with other people (including on the Internet).

I don't think Satoshi Nakamoto is Russian or Ukrainian....

But even if this is true, it does not explain why there are many Russian-speaking users on the forum. It is unlikely that these are the children or grandchildren of Satoshi Nakamoto.

Satoshi Nakamoto remained the anonymous inventor of bitcoin. Perhaps he died or was killed by representatives of the special services.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2022, 02:33:39 PM

Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.

Your presumption here is inaccurate because you can't because of a particular locale population on the forum concluded that Satoshi himself is a Russian, as to the best of my knowledge i think that alone should be one of the reasons why Russian locale shouldn't have been one of the highest population on the forum because most times people tend not to believe or adopt an invention that comes from their country citizens while other countries do appreciate such, am yet to still believe the statistics that Russia has the highest population on the forum since it's a choice to be identified by a locale you belong to.

We have a large number of users on this forum not participating in the locale, since it it believed that the English not speaking countries have their each language they could better experience their participation on bitcointalk, and we we are to talk by global ranking of countries with highest population of bitcoiners, Russia is not one of the first three, consider US to an extent since it is by default an English speaking country, most of its citizens sees locale as less needed because they have no language barrier.

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maybe Russian people are more aware of technology and progress of the times, maybe that's what caused many BTT members from Russia.

satoshi Nakamoto, from the name alone it looks like a name from Japan, why do you mention Russians, just because there are more members from Russia.
and I think this Satoshi is a group, not an individual.
because making programs like bitcoin/crypto is a very complicated thing, especially since bitcoin was created when the technology was not as sophisticated as it is now.
therefore I believe that this satoshi is a group not an individual, because if it's an individual, it's too difficult.

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There is no correlation between the highest number of members and Satoshi Nakamoto coming from Russia. It's hard to even identify the extent of Satoshi Nakamoto's closest ties to the Russian state, personally I'm not that close to people in the Russian community, but I don't think there is any connection at all regarding the identity of Bitcoin's creator to the Russians.
Moreover, there is no more accurate source, to justify your assumptions, and I don't think there is a need to find out more about who the real Satoshi is.

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Quote from: m2017 on November 30, 2022, 02:15:36 AM

Forgive me OP, but I don't see any logic in the connection between Satoshi and the number of active users in the russian local board. The predominance of Russian users can only mean that they are more interested in bitcoin, crypto currencies and related technologies. Compared to other countries. The manifestation of activity is not an indicator that the founder of the bitcointalk belongs to them. Therefore, I believe that your arguments don't confirm anything, just as it don't refute anything. Satoshi can be a citizen of any country in the world, but we will not know anything about it.

What is certain is that Satoshi is a resident of Earth who has a superior brain by building Bitcoin technology to date.

The OP only saw from the very active Russian user Domination and that really won't prove anything. As you said, Russians are probably more interested in cryptocurrencies and their technology than other countries which are lagging behind on the new technologies that are being talked about. My country alone Indonesia has little activity, because only a few people are really interested in bitcoin and are in this forum.

About satoshi's identity, no need to guess anything just let him stay in his Privacy, it will be better.

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Forgive me OP, but I don't see any logic in the connection between Satoshi and the number of active users in the russian local board. The predominance of Russian users can only mean that they are more interested in bitcoin, crypto currencies and related technologies. Compared to other countries. The manifestation of activity is not an indicator that the founder of the bitcointalk belongs to them. Therefore, I believe that your arguments don't confirm anything, just as it don't refute anything. Satoshi can be a citizen of any country in the world, but we will not know anything about it.

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Do you really think that Satoshi's nationality is that important? Would it make a difference, if he was really a Russian?
Is Satoshi Nakamoto one person? What if he is a team of developers?
The Russian Local board is quite active and there are many crypto companies founded in Russia, even though the Russian government isn't crypto-friendly at all. However, that doesn't mean anything.
Even if Satoshi was a Russian, there's no way to prove this theory. I don't think that he is Russian, because his English was pretty good.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on November 29, 2022, 05:00:24 PM

Quote from: macson on November 29, 2022, 04:38:56 PM

(...) satoshi is everywhere, watching us somewhere (...)

So, like a god? Cheesy

Could you spare a coin, almighty? Roll Eyes

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lastly, there is also a possibility that not only Russians are active on the Russian board locally but from neighboring countries that have the same language maybe.

Good point. Georgians, Moldovans, and so on would fall into the same subforum. Bulgarians also don't have their own forum, but use the same alphabet, so they could be contributing.

i just remember the best word on bitcointalk advertising -- no god, no king, only Bitcoin

true, the countries that were once part of the soviet union and surrounding countries still use the Russian language a lot ^(cmiiw), which makes Russian one of the most widely used languages in the world.

Quote from: CryptoPanda on November 29, 2022, 05:00:03 PM

I think you forgot to add some important information in your OP, one factor to be considered is that Russian local board was the first local board on bitcointalk. Which means they have been around for the longest time, and also considering their affinity for speaking their own language in IRL and on every online platform. Other local boards That alone is enough reason for their local board to be more active over the years than the others in the forum.

good point!

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The reason may be that Russian people do not speak English, so they can only write in their local board. People from europa, Africa or America can mostly understand English and write in all other places.

Quote from: Solosanz on November 29, 2022, 08:29:53 PM

So you're guessing Satoshi is a Russian because Russian board has a lot post and active members among other local board in this forum?

If I create 300 alt accounts and then make 3000 post on Turkish board, would you say Satoshi is from Turkish? If I create 400 alt accounts and then make 6000 post on new local board e.g. Nepal, would you say Satoshi is from Nepal?

Your assumption isn't make sense and there's 0% correlation about it.

Exactly

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until now I never thought who satoshi was and where he came from. but all i think is satoshi is the one who created bitcoin for the future.

don't assume if the local russian board is more active you think if the satoshis are from russia, that is a mistake.
all of us who are here will also never know where the satoshi comes from. because the existence of satoshi is very private which must be maintained from several factors.
and what I know is that the reason Russian local boards are more active is because Russia has great interest in bitcoin and other crypto

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