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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on December 14, 2022, 01:53:47 PM

Understanding the origins of Satoshi wouldn't help. Satoshi wanted privacy didn't seek the spotlight.

Quote from: Mr.right85 on December 14, 2022, 12:10:31 PM

Let's remain thankful and enjoy the crypto development. We need more people like Satoshi Nakamoto, people who don't seek the spotlight in there attempt to do good.

satoshi made a drastic change in world finances by creating bitcoin,, and which government wouldn't be mad about that then being anonymous and using pseudonyms is a super smart thing that satoshi did. we don't need to find out the identity of satoshi, who is satoshi? where does he-she live? who are his-her parents or family? he-she is a hero, he-she does things that many other heroes do in movies!

The pseudonym Satoshi uses to hide his true identity. Satoshi is very smart, he deliberately hides his real identity to avoid various threats that come to him. People who feel aggrieved by the presence of Bitcoin will hunt down anyone involved in the creation of Bitcoin to save their business.
If satoshi is in Russia, he is Russian, if he lives in Japan, then he is Japanese. Who knows satoshi is Russian or not, his presence has changed everything easier with the creation of Bitcoin.

Thank you satoshi, we really enjoy your work that has changed the world's finances.

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on December 14, 2022, 01:53:47 PM

Understanding the origins of Satoshi wouldn't help. Satoshi wanted privacy didn't seek the spotlight.

Quote from: Mr.right85 on December 14, 2022, 12:10:31 PM

Let's remain thankful and enjoy the crypto development. We need more people like Satoshi Nakamoto, people who don't seek the spotlight in there attempt to do good.

satoshi made a drastic change in world finances by creating bitcoin,, and which government wouldn't be mad about that then being anonymous and using pseudonyms is a super smart thing that satoshi did. we don't need to find out the identity of satoshi, who is satoshi? where does he-she live? who are his-her parents or family? he-she is a hero, he-she does things that many other heroes do in movies!

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Understanding the origins of Satoshi wouldn't help. Satoshi wanted privacy didn't seek the spotlight.

Quote from: Mr.right85 on December 14, 2022, 12:10:31 PM

Let's remain thankful and enjoy the crypto development. We need more people like Satoshi Nakamoto, people who don't seek the spotlight in there attempt to do good.

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Would understanding the origin or nature of Satoshi Nakamoto help?

Perhaps, knowing all about Vitalik Buterin has been what is helping Ethereum. Can we say that or assume that. The thread might have been just some born curiosity but, there is little point to it as it would remain just that.

It's aways been an added advantage to bitcoin, the anonymous nature of Satoshi Nakamoto. If knowing who he/she was as per narrowing Satoshi Nakamoto down would be some disadvantage, am sure we don't want to know.
We are enjoying the anonymity right?

Let's remain thankful and enjoy the crypto development. We need more people like Satoshi Nakamoto, people who don't seek the spotlight in there attempt to do good.

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Satoshi registration November 2009. Russian board created July 2010. There isn't anything to connect them.

Quote from: Getmon on December 12, 2022, 10:06:30 AM

History of local boards

So the first and oldest local board is Russian. I am starting to ponder if Satoshi Nakamoto is Russian, but like Vitalik Buterin, he was already living in a western country like the United States or Canada.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on December 12, 2022, 05:39:02 PM

It should have been established long before that Satoshi is a Russian, there was no writing or post that indicate that he is a Russian he could have posted at least one Russian word or mentioned anything in Russia but there was none and no Russian has claimed that they received an invitation or even a greeting coming from Nakamoto it's not even a theory

It does not serve as proof of Nakamoto not being a Russian however. Nakamoto chose a Japanese name and spoke British English. These two alone are confusing and mismatched enough, unless Nakamoto really was born in UK and given this name which at this point every body doubts.

He tried to keep his identity hidden, meaning it is likely that he threw decoys at us every now and then to make things harder to connect. There are 13 years since he turned it all public. We still have close to zero evidence of his identity, except a few guesses like Finney.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2022, 02:33:39 PM

The reason why I asked this question is because I have been following local boards activities posted monthly by Rikafip. Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.

This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.

There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?

It should have been established long before that Satoshi is a Russian, there was no writing or post that indicate that he is a Russian he could have posted at least one Russian word or mentioned anything in Russia but there was none and no Russian has claimed that they received an invitation or even a greeting coming from Nakamoto it's not even a theory it's more of a fiction trying to connect something that cannot connect, it just happen that they are more interested in Cryptocurrency they have a huge population and they are open to this new technology.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on November 29, 2022, 05:00:03 PM

I think you forgot to add some important information in your OP, one factor to be considered is that Russian local board was the first local board on bitcointalk. Which means they have been around for the longest time, and also considering their affinity for speaking their own language in IRL and on every online platform. Other local boards That alone is enough reason for their local board to be more active over the years than the others in the forum.

There isn't strong evidence to prove Satoshi's a Russian. How do you know the first local board was Russian?

History of local boards

So the first and oldest local board is Russian. I am starting to ponder if Satoshi Nakamoto is Russian, but like Vitalik Buterin, he was already living in a western country like the United States or Canada.

Despite these possibilities, there is no solid proof of Satoshi Nakamoto being Russian. Rather than being a Russian, Satoshi Nakamoto is more likely a group of people. Which isn't to be expected in any way.

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If you're resolute give examples. Name countries where it's common. I can't think of one using GB British English and international English interchangeably.

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on December 08, 2022, 02:00:47 PM

There's a mystery about how Satoshi used English. There aren't reasons to suspect Satoshi's a Russian.

Why did Satoshi use GB British English and international English

People from Common Wealth countries generally use British and US English interchangeably.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2022, 02:33:39 PM

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This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.

There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?

Looks exactly like the equality movement and women getting less pay, you ignored the people that talks English which the majority does and take a sub section of the forum and trying to reach a conclusion Tongue

. Next time think before creating a hypothetical theory Wink

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on December 08, 2022, 02:00:47 PM

There's a mystery about how Satoshi used English. There aren't reasons to suspect Satoshi's a Russian.

Why did Satoshi use GB British English and international English

People from Common Wealth countries generally use British and US English interchangeably.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on November 29, 2022, 05:00:03 PM

I think you forgot to add some important information in your OP, one factor to be considered is that Russian local board was the first local board on bitcointalk. Which means they have been around for the longest time, and also considering their affinity for speaking their own language in IRL and on every online platform. Other local boards That alone is enough reason for their local board to be more active over the years than the others in the forum.

There isn't strong evidence to prove Satoshi's a Russian. How do you know the first local board was Russian?

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2022, 02:33:39 PM

This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian.
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This is a wrong conclusion. The forum activity you have shown refers only to local boards and doesn't include the main forum boards. Do you know how many Americans are active on the forums? Or British, Canadian and Australian members—how many of them post here regularly? Besides, Russia is a very large country with a larger population than many western nations. Have you ever considered that maybe the Russian local board is so active because English isn't as prevalent among Russians? Russians tend to use their native language and the Cyrillic alphabet. Many Russians also speak other languages, but students can choose from different language such as German or French—not necessarily English.

His conclusion's wrong. It's based on his opinion. He's finding something to connect together to make the wrong conclusion. Satoshi had clean GB English & international English, there isn't strong evidence supporting Satoshi was Russian. There's evidence Satoshi's a pseudonym used by more than one person.

Quote from: Solosanz on November 29, 2022, 08:29:53 PM

So you're guessing Satoshi is a Russian because Russian board has a lot post and active members among other local board in this forum?

If I create 300 alt accounts and then make 3000 post on Turkish board, would you say Satoshi is from Turkish? If I create 400 alt accounts and then make 6000 post on new local board e.g. Nepal, would you say Satoshi is from Nepal?

Your assumption isn't make sense and there's 0% correlation about it.

He doesn't see there's 0% correlation or his assumption isn't making sense, he's convinced.

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Quote from: examplens on December 03, 2022, 06:04:46 AM

the answer is more than simple and only gets more complicated by making a relationship based on Satoshi's nationality.
based on statistical data from the internet, Russia had a 2021 population of 143.4 million. if we compare it with 3.899 million in Croatia I guess it is obvious why there is such a difference. I would even say that following only the scale, Croatia and forum members from there are perhaps more active here.

Still, it is not enough information to draw a conclusion from. Romania has a much larger population than Croatia yet it has the lowest activity on the chart.

The most accurate probability we can find is how probable it is that Satoshi is part of a particular nationality calculating activity per board and distributing it by population. Like if Russia has a total population of 10 citizens and the local board has 1, it means ideally 1 in 10 Russians are on Bitcoin Talk (that is if we knew all Russians who have a Bitcoin Talk account are active on the Local board as well, but we all know this is not true in reality).

Then you would know how many of each nationality are on the Forum versus total population, finally giving you some numbers you can maybe work with. Like if 1 in 50 Russians are on Bitcoin Talk versus only 1 in 5000 Croatians, is it fair to say it is more probable that Satoshi is Russian than Croatian? Or am I stupid?

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on December 08, 2022, 02:00:47 PM

There's a mystery about how Satoshi used English. There aren't reasons to suspect Satoshi's a Russian.

Why did Satoshi use GB British English and international English

Satoshi will remain a mystery, we will never know who he really is until one day it is revealed by himself or by a government organization. I have no doubts about Satoshi's anonymity, it is necessary and will definitely support his endeavors as a decentralized asset creator. So I found no reason why he should reveal his identity now or in the future.

Besides that, I also can't find any reason why he is said to be Russian just because Russia has many users in this forum. What if Satoshi is German or maybe from one of the Asian countries that don't have much activity on local board, isn't that always possible?

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There's a mystery about how Satoshi used English. There aren't reasons to suspect Satoshi's a Russian.

Why did Satoshi use GB British English and international English

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Quote from: NdaMk on December 08, 2022, 01:15:20 PM

The activities on the local board do not indicate that the majority of users are from Russia or that Satoshi is from Russia. We have thousands of users in this forum, and if you compare your statistics of users in the local board you created, you'll notice that most users don't really communicate in the local board, either because their local board isn't available here or because they don't want their location to be known.

Satoshi could be from Russia, but he could also be from England or America which doesn't actually have a local board. I agree that Satoshi is not Indonesian, but all possibilities regarding other countries are understandable. Russia has a large user base on forums, but that doesn't prove that Satoshi is from there. I could even think of Satoshi as a group of people from several countries, but operating this forum account is one person.

About who and where Satoshi came from is still an unsolved mystery, and I'm sure it will stay the same forever.

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The activities on the local board do not indicate that the majority of users are from Russia or that Satoshi is from Russia. We have thousands of users in this forum, and if you compare your statistics of users in the local board you created, you'll notice that most users don't really communicate in the local board, either because their local board isn't available here or because they don't want their location to be known.

The forum's privacy will prevent accurate statistics on where the users in this forum are from. Some users here who understand more than one language have commented on more than one local board; the origin of such users cannot be determined unless they reveal themselves. You made an assumption, but the facts you provided does not support it.

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No. And the argument in the main thread has not altered my belief that Satoshi Nakamoto is not a Russian. But is it enough to assume that Satoshi Nakamoto is an American, British, or even an Australian because the language spoken on the busiest boards are in English?

The fact that many nations in eastern Europe and central Asia speak Russian is one of the reasons why there are many people here that post on the Russian boards. They do not have their own local boards. Another is that there are numerous cryptocurrency projects with Russian roots, such as Vitalik Buterin, which in some way encouraged Russians to discover cryptocurrencies.

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I cannot connect the Russian board and Satoshi Nakamoto because of activity we could have thousands of reasons to connect Satoshi to anything but it must be backed by evidence, not just mere assumption, we cannot connect him as an extraterrestrial or a monk, the possibility is endless and since there are thousands possibility without solid evidence we should stop doing assumption or wild guess on who or what he is, let's just be happy on the thought that it greatly benefits the community with an unknown creator.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2022, 02:33:39 PM

The reason why I asked this question is because I have been following local boards activities posted monthly by Rikafip. Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.

I'm wondering too, Another fact here is that the first local board was also created in Russian language, However, no one knows if this is true since everything is still annonymous , i'v learnt to live with the fact that the creator of Bitcoin Satoshi has decided for now they're annonymous until maybe they become known some day.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 03, 2022, 05:27:48 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on November 29, 2022, 06:40:54 PM

You are asking the wrong question. It should be, "Why is the Russian local board, more active than the rest?"

I support this, what if by chance there's a surge of Chinese users or their local boards become very active, will we assume that Satoshi is Chinese based on your assumption that there are a lot of active users on that particular board to assume that Satoshi comes from that country, we should rest the case on who is Satoshi Nakamoto and what's his nationality is, we already have a very long discussion on that and your assumption is not part of that.

the answer is more than simple and only gets more complicated by making a relationship based on Satoshi's nationality.
based on statistical data from the internet, Russia had a 2021 population of 143.4 million. if we compare it with 3.899 million in Croatia I guess it is obvious why there is such a difference. I would even say that following only the scale, Croatia and forum members from there are perhaps more active here.

also, the largest number of individual frauds comes from Russian users. should we give them an honorary red flag because of that?

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