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April 02, 2017, 06:16:42 AM
#31
Shorting's risk is based on the individual.  It's only risky if you short something risky at a time which is more risky, so it's solely based on your own experience.
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April 02, 2017, 05:40:31 AM
#30
Margin trading itself is already gambling and margining on volatile markets like btc/usd is not even gambling, it is a suicide.

You can only make money if you are %100 percent sure that the prices are going to fall down and there is only one possibility for you to know that: You make the prices fall down.
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April 02, 2017, 05:35:38 AM
#29
Of course shorting can be profitable.  But with bitcoin?  With this amount of volatility?  I wouldn't.  I'm surprised these exchanges even allow it.
Even if you are pro trader no one dares to short bitcoin simply because of the volatile nature ,the exchanges allow these sort of trades simply because they earn the commission for each trade and if you look at    HitBTC and Bitfinex they started future trading of bitcoin unlimited  Cheesy ,these exchanges are simply taking advantage of the situation .
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April 02, 2017, 04:23:58 AM
#28
if anyone has an experience in shorting?
do not forget to share the same information I?

thanks.
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April 02, 2017, 03:25:22 AM
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shorting is very risky , increases stress thats why I left margin trading

Agreed, that's why I always admire traders who do such because they have such balls of steel since it's stressful and big market movements in a short span of time can cause them big money. You need to be always on the lookout if you are a margin trader because you need to constantly make money out of those tiny ripples that you see in the market.
The real key on trading is having a patience on transaction. Because we all know that in trading through bitcoin one should know the value or the market stock of bitcoin every transaction because through these we can know if the trade is going to be good or not. For me having a shorting trading is quite risky but all trade have risk o its better to take the risk and do your best for you to be successful that the best thing to do. And if you are thinking if it has profit the answer is yes but you will going to need to have patience and skills.
Well I would say it is an RNG  thing, something that you can’t really predict when is going to happen, the price of the bitcoin changes constantly, one minute it could change by a dollar or two or even by ten and at that moment you could make profit from trading it I know a lot of people do this and that sometimes get luck and lend a hit but they are not always successful with it, so advise if you don’t have a good experience or a good cap you should play it safe like everyone else and hold for a long term.
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April 01, 2017, 10:42:18 AM
#26
shorting is very risky , increases stress thats why I left margin trading

Agreed, that's why I always admire traders who do such because they have such balls of steel since it's stressful and big market movements in a short span of time can cause them big money. You need to be always on the lookout if you are a margin trader because you need to constantly make money out of those tiny ripples that you see in the market.
The real key on trading is having a patience on transaction. Because we all know that in trading through bitcoin one should know the value or the market stock of bitcoin every transaction because through these we can know if the trade is going to be good or not. For me having a shorting trading is quite risky but all trade have risk o its better to take the risk and do your best for you to be successful that the best thing to do. And if you are thinking if it has profit the answer is yes but you will going to need to have patience and skills.
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April 01, 2017, 01:12:40 AM
#25
Shorting is really a profitable way in earning money but it will be profitable if you know how it works and you have enough knowledge in using it. I do shorting in altcoins and it works for me because i don't short non popular coins but just popular coins like eth and xrp. But if you want really profitable then long term for bitcoin is the best.
Shorting does really works and could really give you decent profits if you do know how to execute it and you know on what you are doing.You are right we should always seek for famous coins which is price is volatile or does move because thats the best time for doing short tradings.
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April 01, 2017, 01:02:36 AM
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Have any of you got benefit by shorting?please share your thrilling experiences.

Anything has the potential to be profitable.

Even gambling can be profitable. That's what most gamblers think of gambling - a quick and easy way to make a shit ton of money in a short period of time. Of course, that is possible. But not probable.

Same with shorting, it's a negative EV game actually. Because you are playing against other traders in the market, except as a shorter you have to pay a bit more than them to place orders, in the form of interest on your loan.

I wouldn't recommend shorting.
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April 01, 2017, 12:59:48 AM
#23
Shorting is really a profitable way in earning money but it will be profitable if you know how it works and you have enough knowledge in using it. I do shorting in altcoins and it works for me because i don't short non popular coins but just popular coins like eth and xrp. But if you want really profitable then long term for bitcoin is the best.
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March 31, 2017, 12:39:25 PM
#22
Investing <> guaranteed profits. Shorting <<>> guaranteed profits. Assuming profits (or loss) is a dangerous mindset to have.

I hold a short position from time to time, but use it as a hedge only. I never assume that short positions generate profits. As Bob Baerker points out, leveraged ETFs can really burn an investor.
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March 24, 2017, 09:40:46 PM
#21
Can you please tell us what is shorting first of all as I have never heard about that word before and I think you should elaborate your topic by putting some more information about shorting as it may be new to many people and would not be aware about it.
As said shorting is one way of getting profit , it is quite profitable if you got it right but will give you a huge lost if you are wrong.  There are lots of professional trader that gone broke because of this strategy.  Since we never know if the price will crash or not until it happen.
In my opinion, if shorting looks like a gambling with your prediction. With this condition and shorting is really risky.

It will be instantly dropped a lot. and with the shorting method just give you a small chance to get a profit.

No one is wanna paying on the hole.

I've lost a lot of my money caused by shorting and it gets wrong.
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March 24, 2017, 09:31:32 PM
#20
i am trying to understand margin trading, some one helpme to fully understand for instance if i set a short position on eth
at x price, if the price of eth rise over x am i loosing money? and if it goes down am in profit?
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March 23, 2017, 03:20:30 AM
#19
As what others have said, shorting is too risky and only the experience of the trader do it. Even those who have deep knowledge of this sometimes lost as well. You can even lose 100% here. So unless if you are a very professional trader who has built up the needed experience through out the years of study to play this kind of game then short selling is for you otherwise, stick to short or long term investment to see you profits.
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March 23, 2017, 12:02:05 AM
#18
shorting is very risky , increases stress thats why I left margin trading

Profitable? I should say Yes and NO. It depends on your luck and as he said above, it is very risky. In addition that he is on margin trading, the pressure is high for you to gain and here the emotions will come in.

I am also doing short trading but on small amount only, like in Poloniex that the trading movement is very fast you could lose in an instant. But it is exciting also Smiley
Shorting takes skill that depends on the mechanics of the market transition from higher to lower prices, and when it comes to the bitcoin market as in overall it is very hard to predict when the transition are going to happen, and shorting requires perfect timing and devinesive trade mangament so unlees you have a good cap then I don’t recommend doing it.
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March 21, 2017, 10:31:43 AM
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shorting is very risky , increases stress thats why I left margin trading

Profitable? I should say Yes and NO. It depends on your luck and as he said above, it is very risky. In addition that he is on margin trading, the pressure is high for you to gain and here the emotions will come in.

I am also doing short trading but on small amount only, like in Poloniex that the trading movement is very fast you could lose in an instant. But it is exciting also Smiley
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March 21, 2017, 06:54:28 AM
#16
Have any of you got benefit by shorting?please share your thrilling experiences.
I think its profitable but it has high risk and too danger in terms of investing in short term tradings. The only traders doing this things are veterans and experts, however some of them are taking advantage of short terms trading and I don't know how they do that.
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March 20, 2017, 11:34:41 PM
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Can you please tell us what is shorting first of all as I have never heard about that word before and I think you should elaborate your topic by putting some more information about shorting as it may be new to many people and would not be aware about it.

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Short selling is the sale of a security that is not owned by the seller, or that the seller has borrowed. Short selling is motivated by the belief that a security's price will decline, enabling it to be bought back at a lower price to make a profit.

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As said shorting is one way of getting profit , it is quite profitable if you got it right but will give you a huge lost if you are wrong.  There are lots of professional trader that gone broke because of this strategy.  Since we never know if the price will crash or not until it happen.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious, Einstein.  For those who don't know what shorting is, I hear Google can give you some answers, and check the above link that was provided.  And be prepared to get ass raped, because your potential losses are UNLIMITED. 

Of course shorting can be profitable.  But with bitcoin?  With this amount of volatility?  I wouldn't.  I'm surprised these exchanges even allow it.
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March 20, 2017, 09:20:56 PM
#14
Shorting = Risky, always, because Shorting always is invest or gambling and trust me, i tried both 2, and the result luckily not too bad for me, but i saw someone lost everything . So my advice, find something that you can sure on it then invest but only long-term, no short-term. Long is good  Grin Grin
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March 20, 2017, 07:38:05 PM
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Have any of you got benefit by shorting?please share your thrilling experiences.

No i have never shorted bitcoin and that is because i have learnt from the bad experiences of others.  even the whales get caught out on this one.  in January there was a short liquidated for $10 million, which would be absolutely gutting no matter how rich you are.
What happened after the volitality in January should be a lesson for its holder that we should really hold our bitcoin as its decreasing its value and wait untill it rise again since this is how the currency is how supposed to occur. Thus, as bitcoin decreases its value, we should hold or buy more bitcoin so that as it rises again, we can sell it and make profit.
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March 20, 2017, 03:07:34 PM
#12
It can be very profitable but also very risky. Especially if you are shorting bitcoin, the market is very unpredictable and it could jump up and down without warning. You can get margin called in a matter of minutes so you always have to be on guard of your positions.
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