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So you're saying that to get Mom interested in ...

Nope. I just stated few quick examples of how you can get bitcoins without buying them on exchange site (personally I bought total of ~0.02 and hold/spent/lost bit more than that) .
~0.02 BTC Shocked? Roughly $8 US at current rate, $24 at bubble-burst? How, pray tell, did you plow through such a princely sum?
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If your mom can't find a way to earn it and buying is not worth the discount she could get - tell her to stick to fiat. Problem solved.
Mom already uses fiat grownup money, so no problems to solve. That's the point -- Bitcoin, while creating shitloads of problems, solves none.
Well, not unless you're a criminal/totally nanners, that is.
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So you're saying that to get Mom interested in ...

Nope. I just stated few quick examples of how you can get bitcoins without buying them on exchange site (personally I bought total of ~0.02 and hold/spent/lost bit more than that) . If your mom can't find a way to earn it and buying is not worth the discount she could get - tell her to stick to fiat. Problem solved.
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I was looking for something to spend btc on that isn't illegal that would make using bitcoin worth it, like are there "extra content if you use bitcoin" subscriptions or anything cool like that?
buying goods,top up mobile,pay VPS and other services,its legal. and several day ago,i saw people post on this thread that they have plan to make something what you looking for,but i dont know what now he do.
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It's true they may save a bit but probably not as much as you might think. How many merchants do you know that accept Bitcoin directly, I don't think I've ever come across one, they all use some third party processor like Bitpay and I doubt Bitpay offers its service for free.

Even 1% discount could be worthwile for regular purchases or one-time high value ones (ie gold bar). Afaik BitPay didn't charge any fees initially, but introduced some small fees quite recently, still much lower than cc/PayPal.

How do you get your BTC?
Unless you're a factory mine, you *buy* it before you can use it. Which means fees/premiums/your time. Way in excess of that 1% Sad

There are plenty of other ways to get BTC. You could sell stuff/provide services and take bitcoins, altcoin trading, investing, gambling etc. You could also find someone who is willing to sell at market price outside of exchanges.

Usual exchange fee for buying is around 0.2%, so much less than 1%. Fiat transfer fees are the issue, but are less significant if you trade larger amounts.

So you're saying that to get Mom interested in the 1% discount she could get in the 1% of the stores by using BTC, I should tell her to
1. sell something for BTC
2. trade altcoins (hard to understand where/how Mom got her altcoins, so I won't ask)
3. investing (just get some BTC by investing, Ma, I have no idea what that means but it's super easy)
4. gambling (Mom, just get BTC is by gambling, what can possibly go wrong?)
5. find someone selling off-exchange @ market (i.e. find a criminal or idiot)

Overlooking the fact that she'd need to have BTC for everything other than (1), and that the intrepid financiers engaging in (2) through (5) end up in the gutter, crying hot salty tears, and also assuming Mom is not batshit crazy... do you honestly think she'd do any of the above for 1% savings (not from the stores she normally shops, but some obscure merchant she never heard of, the one that accepts BTC)?
legendary
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It's true they may save a bit but probably not as much as you might think. How many merchants do you know that accept Bitcoin directly, I don't think I've ever come across one, they all use some third party processor like Bitpay and I doubt Bitpay offers its service for free.

Even 1% discount could be worthwile for regular purchases or one-time high value ones (ie gold bar). Afaik BitPay didn't charge any fees initially, but introduced some small fees quite recently, still much lower than cc/PayPal.

How do you get your BTC?
Unless you're a factory mine, you *buy* it before you can use it. Which means fees/premiums/your time. Way in excess of that 1% Sad

There are plenty of other ways to get BTC. You could sell stuff/provide services and take bitcoins, altcoin trading, investing, gambling etc. You could also find someone who is willing to sell at market price outside of exchanges.

Usual exchange fee for buying is around 0.2%, so much less than 1%. Fiat transfer fees are the issue, but are less significant if you trade larger amounts.
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It's true they may save a bit but probably not as much as you might think. How many merchants do you know that accept Bitcoin directly, I don't think I've ever come across one, they all use some third party processor like Bitpay and I doubt Bitpay offers its service for free.

Even 1% discount could be worthwile for regular purchases or one-time high value ones (ie gold bar). Afaik BitPay didn't charge any fees initially, but introduced some small fees quite recently, still much lower than cc/PayPal.

How do you get your BTC?
Unless you're a factory mine, you *buy* it before you can use it. Which means fees/premiums/your time. Way in excess of that 1% Sad
legendary
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It's true they may save a bit but probably not as much as you might think. How many merchants do you know that accept Bitcoin directly, I don't think I've ever come across one, they all use some third party processor like Bitpay and I doubt Bitpay offers its service for free.

Even 1% discount could be worthwile for regular purchases or one-time high value ones (ie gold bar). Afaik BitPay didn't charge any fees initially, but introduced some small fees quite recently, still much lower than cc/PayPal.

Having said that I would be genuinely curious to have a look at stores that offer bonuses for using Bitcoin.

It would be great if someone could compile and maintain such list (showing benefits comparing to fiat payments etc).
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yes.  freedom.

What's freedom going for, nowadays?
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no and anyway illegal stuff are not exclusive to bitcoin, everything that can be bought with bitcoin can be bough with fiat/cash, cash is fiat too...

maybe the only thing are...altcoin, they can be acquire easily with bitcoin, not talking about big altcoin
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I don't think there is. It doesn't make sense why any merchant would want to offer bonuses at their expense if you use Bitcoin instead of Dollars.

Wrong. As mentioned above, there are merchants offering discounts when you pay with bitcoins. And it makes sense, credit card/PayPal payments are more expensive for merchants as they pay fees on them. There's also risk of chargeback, virtually non existent with BTC payments.

It's true they may save a bit but probably not as much as you might think. How many merchants do you know that accept Bitcoin directly, I don't think I've ever come across one, they all use some third party processor like Bitpay and I doubt Bitpay offers its service for free.
Having said that I would be genuinely curious to have a look at stores that offer bonuses for using Bitcoin.
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I don't think there is. It doesn't make sense why any merchant would want to offer bonuses at their expense if you use Bitcoin instead of Dollars.

Wrong. As mentioned above, there are merchants offering discounts when you pay with bitcoins. And it makes sense, credit card/PayPal payments are more expensive for merchants as they pay fees on them. There's also risk of chargeback, virtually non existent with BTC payments.


The charge back is the worst thing that can happen in credit card and paypal, some abused this when they pay paypal.
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I don't think there is. It doesn't make sense why any merchant would want to offer bonuses at their expense if you use Bitcoin instead of Dollars.

Wrong. As mentioned above, there are merchants offering discounts when you pay with bitcoins. And it makes sense, credit card/PayPal payments are more expensive for merchants as they pay fees on them. There's also risk of chargeback, virtually non existent with BTC payments.
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I don't think there is. It doesn't make sense why any merchant would want to offer bonuses at their expense if you use Bitcoin instead of Dollars. Sure you might find a few diehard Bitcoin fans willing to cut their own profits just to promote Bitcoin but that's going to be rare.
I've come across a few sites selling electronics and such that only accept BTC but the prices were ridiculously high compared to regular stores.
They save on transaction fee while receiving payment with bitcoin,they can pass on this benefit to customers.There are many advantages to using bitcoin for both customers and merchants as well
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I don't think there is. It doesn't make sense why any merchant would want to offer bonuses at their expense if you use Bitcoin instead of Dollars. Sure you might find a few diehard Bitcoin fans willing to cut their own profits just to promote Bitcoin but that's going to be rare.
I've come across a few sites selling electronics and such that only accept BTC but the prices were ridiculously high compared to regular stores.
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You can directly or indirectly buy almost everything with bitcoin right now, from stores or in this forum. I think there are allot of legal items available for BTC.
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are there any illegal or legal things exclusive for fiat as well? probably not since you can almost buy any service directly or indirectly for bitcoin.
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non-illegal? I think there are many legal activities related to bitcoin but not exclusive, you can probably buy almost everything you can buy with dollars with bitcoin, except maybe altcoins..
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yes.  freedom.
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Some merchants would give you small discount when paying with bitcoins (or more loyalty points etc), mostly applies to gift cards purchases, but recently JM Bullion (precious metals dealer) started accepting BTC, you can get bigger discount (4% iirc) as compared to credit cards or paypal payments.
I recently found one online store that does this, I ordered some guarana through azarius.nl and saw that they give a discount if you pay with Bitcoin.
First time I saw something like that Smiley

And to answer OP, I wonder if those typical crypto dice gambling sites are exclusive to bitcoin, I'd never seen something like it on any traditional gambling website.
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I was looking for something to spend btc on that isn't illegal that would make using bitcoin worth it, like are there "extra content if you use bitcoin" subscriptions or anything cool like that?
Depends on how much coins you have.You can buy from needle to house anything with bitcoin.Bitcoin is great convenience and that itself makes using it worth it even if you dont get discount
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