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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

I think it's less about getting more into the spotlight and more of them just goofing around cause they got millions anyway and they can do whatever they want. They need no further introduction or exposure as they already are rich for one, and are notable on the other. They don't need to do it for anything other than for the hell of it. If you're talking about Elon and Mark's debacle I guess it just boils down to the latent animosity that both had for each other since time immemorial lmao.

Honestly would love to see more billionaires putting it out on the ring, instead of court rulings and stuff.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

We need to be wise and know how most of these celebrities do there things to create traffic and before more popular. Many kg the beefs and fights we do see online are fake and are not genuine. Sometimes they do that to become popular and gain new followers to the numbers they have. We know that most of these our celebrities even the ones that are not that popular always device a means to trend online so that people can search for there profiles and follow them. Sometimes they can even ask people to follow some certain profile for the promise of giveaways which are mostly scam attempt.

This is true, we know that influencers of any kind are not above doing anything to try to get the followers and the publicity they need, but this is nothing really new, we have known for a long time that musicians and actors do this all the time, with some even arranging fake marriages in order to increase their popularity with the public, then it is not that surprising that people like Musk and Zuckerberg are now doing the same in order to increase their popularity all over the world.

Publicity for the business, I guess, more on that side for sure as both well-known personalities are doing good engagements.

With how they are attracting readers and viewers with this controversy, they will earn more
potential followers and whatever it is, as long as they will manage to bring the attention both
from their business and for their own popularity, that will still serve the purpose.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

If it does work or really that get the world attention into it then it is really that a good strategy but if not? There's nothing to lose on which its a win-win situation for those who are involved on such hype or whatsoever we do see with these personalities on which if you've been aware on how this market behaves or works then seeing these situations arent shocking anymore and its obviously
that everything has been done for the sake of marketing and more exposure of their companies on which it isnt really that shocking anymore.

There are really just that people who arent aware on why these things had been done and this is their primary target on hooking up people to be wary on making use or getting involved
on what are the products or services which these people do own on the time that they would be wary about such thing because of that recent exposure.
Everything would really be having that kind of approach or intent.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 06, 2023, 02:55:43 PM

But this is not to do away with the fact that there are still some of those public beefs that are orchestrated, that is planned, solely to grab and draw public attention to themselves and their businesses..

There is this recent one I am reading about an actress in one country. She wrote a book in which she dragged the names of other celebrities out to the public and poured all sorts of accusations against them. Some people said her story was real, while others said it was just all fiction. But the interesting part of the story is that this actress has sold a lot of copies of that book for £ 7 pound 💷. So, it can be clearly stated that maybe all those fights were to gain more exposure and also make some money from the book. That's why I said it's their business as long as what they are doing doesn't pose harm to anyone in society.

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Quote from: Wakate on July 09, 2023, 05:10:34 AM

We need to be wise and know how most of these celebrities do there things to create traffic and before more popular. Many kg the beefs and fights we do see online are fake and are not genuine. Sometimes they do that to become popular and gain new followers to the numbers they have. We know that most of these our celebrities even the ones that are not that popular always device a means to trend online so that people can search for there profiles and follow them. Sometimes they can even ask people to follow some certain profile for the promise of giveaways which are mostly scam attempt.

Everyone has their own methods of promotion, such as clickbait headlines. The question is how well they are used. Staged fights are a long-standing mechanism for attracting popularity. Shocking content is not uncommon either. In order to become famous, any means is good.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

Well I don't know nor other countries but this has been an obvious strategy in my country's entertainment industry but I think it's a casted strategy since almost everyone is aware of this one but I love my country because they will still patronize you if they truly love you.
But anyone in the entertainment industry already have the mindset of making profit and if having some staged fights and conflicts will help boost the productivity, then I don't really think it's a bad idea because even those who staged fights are ways easy to spot and most times we enjoy watching them and hoping to see the best ones.

Quote from: Lorence.xD on July 09, 2023, 01:04:17 AM

Here in my country, where people are mostly exposed into social media and almost everyone couldn't even live without the internet. So it would be common for them to be involved in this entertainment like being an influencer, vlogger or product advertisement like ambassador. Well if you're not too dumb to see the intentions behind those fight or we could consider as "acting". Most of these conflicts are two parties that are popular so it would gather all the viewers. I think this is consider as good strategy, Why? Because people couldn't even remember it in months for sure it would be open the topic once me tion but in everyday life you wouldn't even remeber it.

I'm sure we are coming from almost same country it seems this thing is already a casted thread in my country and by now its an old fashion and I'm sure this celebrities are already aware of this and changing the thread.

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Quote from: SyndicateLabs on July 09, 2023, 10:37:57 AM

May or may not, Since I don't really understand what they are doing themselves, we can simply expect the result to reevaluate it.
To me, the move between Musk and Mark brings an exciting atmosphere to different fields, even in the media itself people are starting to split.

They're popular already but I don't think they'll be spending this much time all for nothing.

Quote from: SyndicateLabs on July 09, 2023, 10:37:57 AM

The level of influence of the two is unquestionable, there are news I see around this match that not only people's interest in billionaires but actually their interest in the fields. both have also increased, like a side effect of stimulants when people use and many problems going around.

I think do get it now and there's this benefit for the both of them. Recently, Mark just launched his new app which is called Threads. And that's a good entry and timely advertisement for him to get the attention of everybody.

Let's see what's with Elon next.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

We need to be wise and know how most of these celebrities do there things to create traffic and before more popular. Many kg the beefs and fights we do see online are fake and are not genuine. Sometimes they do that to become popular and gain new followers to the numbers they have. We know that most of these our celebrities even the ones that are not that popular always device a means to trend online so that people can search for there profiles and follow them. Sometimes they can even ask people to follow some certain profile for the promise of giveaways which are mostly scam attempt.

This is true, we know that influencers of any kind are not above doing anything to try to get the followers and the publicity they need, but this is nothing really new, we have known for a long time that musicians and actors do this all the time, with some even arranging fake marriages in order to increase their popularity with the public, then it is not that surprising that people like Musk and Zuckerberg are now doing the same in order to increase their popularity all over the world.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

May or may not, Since I don't really understand what they are doing themselves, we can simply expect the result to reevaluate it.
To me, the move between Musk and Mark brings an exciting atmosphere to different fields, even in the media itself people are starting to split. The level of influence of the two is unquestionable, there are news I see around this match that not only people's interest in billionaires but actually their interest in the fields. both have also increased, like a side effect of stimulants when people use and many problems going around.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

We need to be wise and know how most of these celebrities do there things to create traffic and before more popular. Many kg the beefs and fights we do see online are fake and are not genuine. Sometimes they do that to become popular and gain new followers to the numbers they have. We know that most of these our celebrities even the ones that are not that popular always device a means to trend online so that people can search for there profiles and follow them. Sometimes they can even ask people to follow some certain profile for the promise of giveaways which are mostly scam attempt.

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Here in my country, where people are mostly exposed into social media and almost everyone couldn't even live without the internet. So it would be common for them to be involved in this entertainment like being an influencer, vlogger or product advertisement like ambassador. Well if you're not too dumb to see the intentions behind those fight or we could consider as "acting". Most of these conflicts are two parties that are popular so it would gather all the viewers. I think this is consider as good strategy, Why? Because people couldn't even remember it in months for sure it would be open the topic once me tion but in everyday life you wouldn't even remeber it.

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People can be never tire of being on top of what's trending and since such traffic can be monetized, most businesses take advantage of this and can do anything to keep up appearances. Who knows, Elon and Mark are just two buddies who obviously know that there's no need for a competition since they both know who's the boss but just to create fodder for the gossip blogs and in turn raking in the cash, they continue the shenanigans.
I remember when Elon Musk challenged Putin to a melee fight and using Ukraine as the price. Honestly he knew that wasn't going to happen but the publicity it brought him was massive.

I will not classify it as good or bad, in business anything can go as long as it takes in the cash.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

Yes. What gets the attention of the masses gets the money. Put an advertisement in that spotlight to whichever is fighting over one crisis and you will generate enough money. In today's media where one click is enough to put a promotion to where people is flocking. Be it zuckerberg vs. musk, tate vs bbc, or any. They make money after those. They got more exposure to the media. It's a strategy to make one's brand make known.

Those personalities you mentioned are all popular already. Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk are both businessmen. They own a social media site and they can generate income with it. They can also place their own ad if they want to. The other two must be an influencer and have their own Youtube channels. They can as well run an ad there and make money.

So, I think it's not about the profit on why they are doing it but maybe there is a deep reason about it like Elon can't accept the fact that Facebook got more users than Twitter and he is angry about it. The only way that he think to release his emotion is via a match inside the ring.

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I guess this is what people call negative promotions. And yeah, this works like a charm. People are more interested in other's life than their own. Billionaires, celebrities, and famous people whom we call influencers in our society, often do such things in order to gain more support or to promote something. Most of the time they are planned, so that when the situation gets out of hand, they can just come forward and say things like it was all fake and just a drama to get things to cool down.

This is indeed a strategy and it works too. But to tell if it is good or not will have some controversy. First attempt, it will work. But once it's been out to the public that it's all fake, 99.99% chance that it will never work again. And the reputation of that person will be doomed. So it's a working strategy but under some conditions.

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I've seen people, influencers, and celebrities especially build their brands based on controversies. It works because they have what people are interested in hearing. People love drama, but I honestly don't know why they enjoy it.
I don't believe these beefs are as exaggerated as they are in real life.
Some are genuine beef, some are exaggerated by social media, and some are intentionally orchestrated.
There's a saying that all publicity is good publicity. It depends on the industry you are in. If you're in the entertainment industry, this might be true, but other than that, I feel the only good publicity is good publicity.

I don't pay attention to celebrity fights and beef because it's none of my business. I can't be all in other people's business, it just doesn't make sense, except you're making money from it.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

I think you're reading too much into this. People are often blatantly transparent and where you may consider it to be some grand strategy of manipulation, more often than not it's just their pure narcissistic behavior on display. If you consider that such people surround themselves with "yes men" type people, then they are unlikely to hear much negative feedback and often end up in an echo chamber of their own making. However it depends what level of "celebrity" you're talking about, as they are quite distinct from billionaires, as some of them only built their supposed "reputation" through the drama that they create. Then you get unique examples like Kanye West, who are both mega rich and court controversy quite often, but still have little sense to show for all their money.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

Well, from my own personal observations, I think some of those public beefs and actually genuine, most especially, those that invoke two or more highly influencial persons, anything can cause misunderstanding which can or could lead to publicly beefing one another..

But this is not to do away with the fact that there are still some of those public beefs that are orchestrated, that is planned, solely to grab and draw public attention to themselves and their businesses..

I've heard a story of an up and coming music artist who in the quest for overnight fame, and also to make his music sale, went as far as faking his own death, and later faked a resurrection, and while people were talking about the whole incidents, 2 days later, he released a new song - this shows you the length some people can go to sale their stuff, and it is not in my hands to judge or say whether such strategies is good or bad.

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Quote from: Framelover on July 02, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

If it is about money, nothing is a coincidence. Everything you see on the internet, on the social media is planned. Everything you see, read and hear affects your thinking. That's their only aim. You see an ad of a nice car, you start thinking of that car and then if you have enough funds, you go and buy it.

Is it a good business strategy? It is a brilliant strategy. It is so brilliant, basically every business owner wants to use it. That's why people give ads to the social media platforms like facebook, google and youtube... They do it because it simply works. They make more money than they spend on ads.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on July 03, 2023, 06:51:29 PM

Business owners now days do anything within their power just to make sure that they are at the top of the chart. Sometimes, I believe, some crises over certain things are being caused by those business owners, but if this is all about the fight between the New Twitter CEO and that of Facebook CEO, those could just be sent and considered fun and nothing more than that.

Entrepreneurs know ways of giving each other shade, and we all know how the results are being announced, not by a real hand-to-hand fight; a winner is being graded based on the level of his achievement over what they are dragging.

Any strategy that works for a company in order for the company's goal to be achieved could be considered a good strategy; it doesn't matter how outsiders view it.

To be successful, a company has to use several strategies at the same time - the so-called diversification of production. If you use one strategy, it may not be the right one. And there will no longer be time to find a new strategy. Those who fight on several fronts, making good use of their strengths, usually win.

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Quote from: ringgo96 on July 03, 2023, 12:12:04 PM

To seek fame of course, they billionaires or celebrities must have a serious problem so that their popularity is getting bigger and known to many public figures, but these problems are sometimes planned by some groups to bring down or other goals, not from their own side then you feel the conflict is deliberately made I think it is wrong, Because with their fame, many people take advantage of the opportunity for negative ideas.

To this I will add that there is a change on the culture, on the past billionaires and other people like them did what they could to stay away from the public eye and avoid flaunting their wealth, but now social media has changed even such people and now they want to be on the spotlight all the time, and they have found on this conflict a way to do it, so as unbelievable as it may seem to some, I think this fight may happen due to the desire of both to be seen as being better than the other.

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