Topic: Is this rule fear? - page 2. (Read 262 times)

First of all Op raised a nice question. I think the detection of the IP address and the device might not correctly know the real person who own the account. Because as the Op said, since they are from the same family and probably siblings so they can interchangeably used their device to login on their accounts if one them is charging their device. And in this case, the casino server will detect the accounts with the same IP address and the same device but different accounts. And I think in such situation, it is better for the casino to know the first names of the two accounts in their KYC.

And what if our friends or neighbors who get the internet network from our wifi and which will certainly produce the same IP on the casino board, it will be very disappointing for those who use the same wifi and play at the casino if there is an account blocking.

Especially if the account that is owned is quite large, wouldn't that be very detrimental to someone who has been gambling for a long time.
I have never read such rules, such as family representatives for gambling are only allowed one person per family.

And other things such as using public wifi, some people may use wifi in cafes or certain places and if gambling in the same casino will arise the same ip from many gamblers who play.

I think, about the scary rule it seems there is no, because even though you use the same internet network there may be differences in the devices used. Thus, I think maybe it will not make your account threatened to be banned but yes, I personally do not know for sure whether only the difference in devices can still keep you safe or not. Because honestly,  I personally do not have a family who accesses the same gambling platform and thus, I do not know whether the fear as said by OP is true or not. But so far, I think it is true, that quite often or several times I have also found posts about account bans for having multiple accounts and other reasons, but I think gambling platforms also have their own rules so I think users just need to follow and not violate.

No, that's very wrong but I believe the gambling sites want to limit multi accounting and that's why they pose such limits. However, in my eyes that's not a right thing, a gambling site should allow multiple members from same household to have single accounts.

The terms of the service of the casino is the one that will be followed so when they say one account one house hold, you have to make sure that only you are the playing in that casino, you can do this by asking or telling members of the family not to register or play on the casino you are playing to avoid being flagged for having multiple account.
Only if the casino stated that they can make exception upon request, then that will be the time that you will let members of the family to join and play, the terms of any platform is every user's guide be it a casino or any other platform that you are going to use online.

I don't believe that sharing same WiFi between people in close quarters, have anything to do with a gambling site banning an account.
They probably have multiple accounts and or are telling lies because the account is old and they have been very lucky using that account so far in their gambling quest, without thinking for once that the gambling site would catch them for going against their TOS.

I see a lot of these complaints in the scam accusations board but I have yet to see any of the users admit to having multiple accounts. Anyone who has a multiple accounts on a casino website and who has their account locked shouldn't even complain because they broke the rules

With regards to this question, I'd say that anyone deliberately breaks the rules of the casino should be ready to face the tune of the music. Using the same wifi will be interpreted by the casino website as multiple accounts because of the same IP, why not save yourself the stress of the future and either buy a separate WiFi or better still, use different casinos.

The case OP is putting onto the table is actually more possible than one first guess it is, to be honest, specially in multigenerational homes. Here in LatinAmerica is common for people to live with their parents until their are very into adulthood themselves, the more people lives under the same roof, it becomes more likely at least two of them turn out to be gamblers or turn out to be fond of betting on sports (football/soccers in the majority of the occasions).
Though, I can understand if casinos suddenly go with the "one account per household" rule instead of allowing anyone to have their own, as they can solve their legal and management problems faster by letting know their gamblers they cannot share their IP address with anyone within the same casino.

However, when comes to a family with several gamblers, I would like to at least see the casino to give us the option to go through KYC verification from the beginning and allow us to prove we indeed share house with another of their gamblers, instead of them going completely through the easy path.

Also, it does not have anything to do with admitting one is a gambler to our family, my father could start gambling unbeknownst to me and open a gambling account using the same Wifi I do and I would not know about it before it is too late and we get called out for it.

Simply put, if a person can prove that their identity is true with KYC and does not misuse other people's identities, then it should not be a problem. Because casinos also do not want to suspect their users of using multiple accounts just because the accounts have similar IPs, since they could be different people but on the same network. It would be foolish for a casino platform to suspect its users of using multiple accounts just because they have the same IP as other users, since users cannot be sure whether there are other people using the casino platform on their network.

The worst part of them is that they won't even mentioned it  and they would allowed both accounts to be gambling and making deposit without even restricting them since they are losing to them, but immediately any of those accounts win above their lose in that casino you would see them bring up all their ToS to hold against the account that have the bigger winning to ban or block them from withdrawal. To me this is a criminal offense why set the rules strict from the onset and blocked them immediately such is being noticed than allowing to be making used of the site after winning huge amount they brings out their ToS to justify those gamblers.

Do you think that casinos would happily want to shuffle their users with other gambling platforms? No. But for the sake of bonus abusers, every casino needs suspicious users to leave their platform. Bonus abuse costs casinos roughly 15% of their annual gross profits. And this rule is a step to cut off infiltrators. However, the casino will lose out for penalizing innocent players who do not engage on such activities, but in one way (maybe, failed account recovery) needed to create another account.

Casino have their own rules by not allowing people having multiple accounts in their casino. But people not read the ToS and still creating multiple accounts but the casino can find out easily by checking all people who have the same internet connection especially if they are connect to the casino using the same WiFi.
People can deny that but that will not makes casino believe before those people verify themselves. Maybe casino will freeze all of the account temporarily until the case is clear.
Maybe those people doesn't need to use the same WiFi when playing gambling so casino will not detect that the account is from one person. But we don't know how the casino will find out about that because they have their own way to know people who have multiple accounts.

This is a problem but it can be cleared through 2 different KYC's. I think it will be that simple and the gambling site will probably clear you.

That is where KYC will really help a lot and if both of you are using the same WIFI or internet connection, you will still have a different identification as long as you are both in legal age to gamble.
Even if there are three of you who are playing the same gambling site and in the same connection it won't be that much of a problem. I think the trouble begins when some gamblers do multiple accounts to take advantage of the bonuses and some of them are even creating multiple accounts just to sell them in the future.

Fear or Fair?

If you really meant fear I don't see it, if it's fair yeah, pretty much nobody opens two or more accounts because he wants to keep bets separate or god knows what other excuse, they do it for the bonuses and everyone knows it.


It's not about shared IP it's about one account per household rule most casinos/betting websites have, besides, in your case would those guys only bet from their company internet connection? Or will most of their activity be from that place and not have also comeplety different IPs connecting at the same time for different accounts?
I probably checked my betfair account a hundred times from the free wifi at McDonald's that covered the entire mall, never got in trouble for it.

The problem starts when you have only one IP, the same pattern in betting and deposits, the same timetable,  etc....

Until now, I haven't known that it is against the casino rules to play with shared IP. This could be difficult in the side of the gamblers. I have known people who work in a company and all connects to same network, will they also be flagged?

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Meanwhile, what's the essence of having multiple accounts when you can concentrate on one and even achieve more levels.

This is certainly not right, to be honest, it's another reason set to craftily claim the gamblers' money for themselves, however, if it's in their Ts&Cs, they are justified, but it's still a moral injustice as far as I am concerned. What if family members do not know what the other family members are doing? Must you tell your family everything you do?

Besides, I've never felt comfortable with the issue of having two accounts with casinos, this has caused many to be cheated because some did it ignorantly for some reasons which are not limited to totally forgetting they have an account with the casino (don't think this is not possible, it has happened to me before) or forget/not having access to their account email/password again. They might proceed to open another account if they do not know the penalty waiting for them. That's why casinos should treat cases separately to know who to forgive and who to punish, their system should be able to reveal cheating.

Gambling sites make their rules that users must accept when creating accounts so it is up to them to enforce it when there is violation. I do see those threads of people complaining about casinos closing their accounts with some never mentioning their offense.

Casinos may have various ways of detecting multiple accounts but the most controversial is using IP address because people can use public WiFi and share WiFi at home, although this is rare. Now that it is becoming clearer that such issues will lead to violation, the date thing to do is for gamblers to use their private WiFi when accessing gambling sites.

I think this rule is fair enough to keep gambling at balance and in this case not everyone finds it comfortable saying that they have multiple accounts but they may bring it up when they must have been banned or denied access to the account, and the rule is trying to keep the gambling sites away from theft and scams.
And moreover this issues usually occur to family members that share same IP address, the fact that one person in the family is gambling is quite alright and safe but an additional account with same IP address would be easily detected as theft an hence be denied access as well.
So I think two or more people in same household can't use  such medium, so it's safer one don't share IP so you won't be affected by it too.

I Think gambling site is not that harsh in terms of restricting people's account as people may think. The gambling site can only restrict a person account after registering multiple account with thesame information. I don't think if they can restrict people using thesame IP. Because 2 people can shear a device with 1 IP but different documents and capture. But however, if IP becomes a problem people can use the method which you have explained, that they can open with different device with different IPS and use 1 WiFi to connect all.

Exactly.. gambling site should not even be so hard on restricting duplicated account if they really want to Excell. And Morover the bonuses that made people to even register multiple accounts, can not be pulled out as profit at ago, but will be removed gradually alongside the your funded bankroll. So there is no point of gambling site restricting peoples account. Afterall it's a way of getting many customers.

It's a special case, there's a chance to happen, but high unlikely.

So I guess we need to admit if we're a gambler to our family?

Some family member might don't like if you're a gambler and this could make them to put more attention with anything you do when you're in home, they worried if you're become  a gambler.

If you're afraid, you should use Sim card instead of WiFi.