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September 05, 2024, 03:57:03 PM
#62
If the casino site already stated this information earlier while registering it’s better such user avoid creating multiple accounts or linking personal information with friends.
This rule is not so common and seeing any casino with such rule makes things look complicated for their growth etc, it’s right for a casino to state any rule strict or simple like personally I can’t judge the casino but rather I will judge the customer who knew about this earlier and decided to go ahead, Probably this law is as a guard for safety etc.
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September 05, 2024, 03:54:07 PM
#61
Many people are complaining of gambling sites that they banned their account because of multiple accounts accusation which is against the rules of gambling sites. Some people posted or later posted that they have two accounts, while some people do not admit that they have multiple accounts. Those that did not accept may be lying but what if two people like a brother and his younger brother that is over 18 years old be gambling on the same gambling site with their family WiFi?

On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.

Is this right?

No matter how bad we feel about a rule, that remain the same as their own rule and nothing can for any reason changed it except they do so by themself, this is why it is an important task to do, that we must ensure to check on the gambling platform rules and policies, this will help us know more better about them and what they expect from us, since they have their own obligation to fulfil in rendering gambling services, we also have our own path to follow by abiding on every single statement made by them as rules.
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September 05, 2024, 03:48:45 PM
#60
I think they just don't care while people not even from the family could share the wifi or even the computer. They are very unlikely to be banned if they don't make profits though. If they lose their money by gambling on this casino, you could be rather sure the casino will tolerate them, with asking anything.
An easy way to avoid multi-accounting would be to require people sharing their network or computer with other people to use a webcam while playing.
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September 05, 2024, 03:31:00 PM
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Many people are complaining of gambling sites that they banned their account because of multiple accounts accusation which is against the rules of gambling sites. Some people posted or later posted that they have two accounts, while some people do not admit that they have multiple accounts. Those that did not accept may be lying but what if two people like a brother and his younger brother that is over 18 years old be gambling on the same gambling site with their family WiFi?
Uhmm.. don't y'all think this discussion isn't supposed to be on this board, but the gambling board?

Well, as I'd love to state from my experiences -- the casino goes a long way to complying to the Curaçao regulatory commission... One of such ways is carefully distinguishing KYC credentials.. have you ever thought about the reason why you'd not be able to withdraw if any of your credentials were registered wrongly? Another application would flick out, like a dialogue box, asking you to fill in your personal informations - if it doesn't match with what you save up already, you're gonna be denied your verification. So, there's no way a casino would assume these accounts to be owned by one person just by the ip addresses.
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On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.
It's just part of their TOS like you said for the reason of creating an awareness. It isn't a serious rule per se -- do you know how many sets of people have broken that rule already?
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September 05, 2024, 03:23:56 PM
#58
About this case is not clear in my opinion. Is the casino really strict about this rule? Or is there a little leeway?
With this case it is still unclear if for example we have a brother and play on the same gambling site with the same WIFI, will there be a problem, so far we know there is none, it just depends on the casino policy if they detect the same IP then the latter must show his usual KYC.
Casinos can also detect the device used, whether it is the same device or not.
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September 05, 2024, 03:20:56 PM
#57
So even though the casino used is the same, it will read different devices.
Have you read the case that was shared some time ago? Shuffle account situation plus apology
even using different devices can still cause problems in the end. when there is one account that is of concern with some restrictions, the casino or betting site will definitely start to notice an interrelated pattern. especially if there is a history of deposits or withdrawals to the same account. we can make claims that the other account is our friend, brother, or father. but the casino has terms and conditions that they will adhere to.
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September 05, 2024, 03:06:09 PM
#56
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Although it is quite inappropriate, but to prevent loopholes that can be exploited, I think the terms and conditions regarding the use of one account per household are appropriate. many gambling sites can be accessed, so why can't choose a different one?
Perhaps the family has established their favorite gambling so that there is only one casino they choose to play at.

But of course there will not be many families who play gambling at the same time, maybe only a few cases.
But anyone must read how to TOS in the casino that will be played so that they know what is allowed and what is not allowed.

But I personally won't share my device access with anyone even if it's my family, they have their own devices and can play on their own devices.
So even though the casino used is the same, it will read different devices.
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September 05, 2024, 02:17:03 PM
#55
On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.
Is this right?
No, that's very wrong but I believe the gambling sites want to limit multi accounting and that's why they pose such limits. However, in my eyes that's not a right thing, a gambling site should allow multiple members from same household to have single accounts.

Then what can limit someone from gambling with multiple accounts? there is a vulnerability to the misuse of multiple accounts to intentionally take advantage of certain bonuses or events held by gambling sites. that's what is avoided.

Although it is quite inappropriate, but to prevent loopholes that can be exploited, I think the terms and conditions regarding the use of one account per household are appropriate. many gambling sites can be accessed, so why can't choose a different one?
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September 05, 2024, 01:50:31 PM
#54
The "FAMILY"-related reasons are a bit difficult to know if it's true or not, and it's subjective for me.

I guess the better reason for this is for both gamblers to gamble into different gambling casinos online. I mean there are many online gambling casinos out there to choose from. There might be a bit of differences, but I'm pretty sure, betting on different online casino will not make that much of a difference in terms of experience, the games that they're playing and the sports events that they're betting. Like some said, their casino, their rules, but there are still ways to prevent being banned from that gambling website still.
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September 05, 2024, 01:30:51 PM
#53
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Since it is impossible to reliably determine whether the accounts registered on the same family by one person in order to receive welcome bonuses or each member of the family gambling on the same gambling site using his account casino is forced to apply this rule. 

Personally, I do not see anything wrong with this. It's a defense against the abuse of multi-accounting. We have the choice to either familiarize ourselves with the casino's rules and not violate them or to act on our own, but in this case there may be problems. Everyone decides for himself how to act.
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September 05, 2024, 01:25:29 PM
#52
Many people are complaining of gambling sites that they banned their account because of multiple accounts accusation which is against the rules of gambling sites. Some people posted or later posted that they have two accounts, while some people do not admit that they have multiple accounts. Those that did not accept may be lying but what if two people like a brother and his younger brother that is over 18 years old be gambling on the same gambling site with their family WiFi?

On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.

Is this right?

I think Casino do consider a situation like this, they know when you are using two device from the same location and that's because you can't gamble from a single IP address for a whole week. If you are using different account, you should know enough that you should have different IP address, having similar address will raise their suspicion and they will flag the account as a multiple accounts. Sometimes, they will put the accounts under watch before they finally ban the accounts.

I think that there should be a way someone to prove their innocence but then again, it will be a hectic load to have people trying to verify thousands of account ban for cheating. The best thing is to avoid betting from the same location, use different internet network so you can have entire different Io address to avoid any problem or breaking rules of the casino.
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September 05, 2024, 01:05:37 PM
#51
On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.

Is this right?

Even if they have such rule they hardly affect anyone and most of the ISPs are providing dynamic IPs so there won't be same IP even for one wifi for a while but the only problem comes when someone tries to abuse their bonus system or else even if they had multiple accounts the casino let them have one and terminate others even allows withdrawing the remaining funds.

The rule may not even fit in real life but it's the best they can do to deal with the abusers.
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September 05, 2024, 01:04:21 PM
#50
Fear or fair?
I was almost asking the same question and why no body have talked about it, @_act_, can you help correct that..


If the rules are being made public and not hidden from the gamblers, I will say that it's fair enough that the casino has their reasons for implementing such rules. What I will consider unfair is if the rules are not made clear in the first place.
 
Like some casinos will only state "more than one account is not allowed per user," and the households are different entities if they all gamble there and the casino penalises them. That's only when I can consider the rules unfair, but whereas it's made clear, then it's fair enough.
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September 05, 2024, 01:03:32 PM
#49
Many people are complaining of gambling sites that they banned their account because of multiple accounts accusation which is against the rules of gambling sites. Some people posted or later posted that they have two accounts, while some people do not admit that they have multiple accounts. Those that did not accept may be lying but what if two people like a brother and his younger brother that is over 18 years old be gambling on the same gambling site with their family WiFi?

On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.

Is this right?

Never seen such a rule. Although I never read the ToS  Grin
It seems to me that given the development of mobile Internet and smartphones, such restrictions are irrelevant - many gamblers use smartphones and it is quite possible that Wi-Fi Internet will be shared by several gamblers. I think this is a rudimentary rule and it is unlikely that it is strictly followed anywhere, besides, if controversial issues arise, everything can be resolved with the help of the KYC.
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September 05, 2024, 12:56:21 PM
#48

What they are just trying to protect is their rules and identity thieves' One person can be in one house using multiple accounts, and if you ask them, they can tell you the story of the account that belongs to my relative, and if you ask them to prove it, such a task won't be hard for them to convince; it's simple to just pretend to be whoever they went to be and pass the KYC verification.
 
It can even go beyond family. I have a guy that my sister's friend gave birth to. He is now in University. He told me about how his friends and him bought Starlink for browsing because the common network providers services are bad in their area. What will happen to such people if they are gambling? I remember when I was in school, I have a friend that we gambled almost at the same time because we are also in the same department. We do almost everything together but we used different sims, phones and laptops.
There is nothing that can be done to change the rules because of one family. The rules are in the Tos, if a user is not comfortable with the terms and condition then it is in their right to pick another casino that sync with what they want.  What i know is that there is a good reason for these casinos to strictly adhere to such rules.

Are you ware that same way customers do have complains about casinos service the same way casinos do complain about how users misuse their platforms for their own person gains. The recent uodate BC game hard three days ago was because a lot of gambler figured a way t manipulate their crash features which affected the game, so in other to have their own benefit in gambling they have to make some changes. They have the right because they are the ones offering the business its lift for the gambler to choose if he wants to continuing using the platform or now.
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September 05, 2024, 12:51:59 PM
#47
Many people are complaining of gambling sites that they banned their account because of multiple accounts accusation which is against the rules of gambling sites. Some people posted or later posted that they have two accounts, while some people do not admit that they have multiple accounts. Those that did not accept may be lying but what if two people like a brother and his younger brother that is over 18 years old be gambling on the same gambling site with their family WiFi?

On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.

Is this right?

Have you actually come across a family that uses the same PC to gamble ?
Not many families are comfortable keeping their gambling habits in front of their family memers.
To be honest, I hardly recollect such a scenario happening and so in most cases the people calling out such scenarios are lying.
This is why casino sites come out with rules like one account per household which gives them the right to ban accounts if identified.
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September 05, 2024, 12:41:53 PM
#46
Many people are complaining of gambling sites that they banned their account because of multiple accounts accusation which is against the rules of gambling sites. Some people posted or later posted that they have two accounts, while some people do not admit that they have multiple accounts. Those that did not accept may be lying but what if two people like a brother and his younger brother that is over 18 years old be gambling on the same gambling site with their family WiFi?

On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.

Is this right?
I have seen people on the past banned by those kind of rules, and while we may not like them, the rules are very clear, an account is supposed to be used exclusively by the person that created it and only one account can be created by household, which means that if there is another gambler living at your home then they need by rules use a different casino than the one you use or both of your accounts could get banned, without a doubt this is an odd rule by casinos, since they are limiting the number of clients they may get this way, but they know how to take care of their business way better than I do.
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September 05, 2024, 12:34:08 PM
#45
Until now, I haven't known that it is against the casino rules to play with shared IP. This could be difficult in the side of the gamblers. I have known people who work in a company and all connects to same network, will they also be flagged?

Meanwhile, what's the essence of having multiple accounts when you can concentrate on one and even achieve more levels.
Usually casinos in their terms and conditions have a rule of 1 account per person, sometimes there is also no this rule in the ToS, but the problem is when you make a withdrawal because of an investigation by the casino, this is what is complicated, the casino will see from the IP if it is the same then the casino will mark all as multiple accounts, no matter if you are a relative or family because that is what they find in their IP detection system.

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September 05, 2024, 12:14:48 PM
#44
Many people are complaining of gambling sites that they banned their account because of multiple accounts accusation which is against the rules of gambling sites. Some people posted or later posted that they have two accounts, while some people do not admit that they have multiple accounts. Those that did not accept may be lying but what if two people like a brother and his younger brother that is over 18 years old be gambling on the same gambling site with their family WiFi?

On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.

Is this right?
Having multiple account is forbidden for every casinos and this is their ToS and common rules which the casinos has and they usually don't want to know if people used home WiFi to register because if their system detect same account in the same IP then the casinos will recognized those people have multiple account and this is against their ToS which most likely those users will be banned although probably it is unintentional and but the casinos doesn't accepting any excuses about it so that's why for gambling sites i suggest to the people that to keep private by theirself and register using their own computer or their smartphone personally because it can avoid the issues like this
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September 05, 2024, 12:14:31 PM
#43
Many people are complaining of gambling sites that they banned their account because of multiple accounts accusation which is against the rules of gambling sites. Some people posted or later posted that they have two accounts, while some people do not admit that they have multiple accounts. Those that did not accept may be lying but what if two people like a brother and his younger brother that is over 18 years old be gambling on the same gambling site with their family WiFi?

On gambling site ToS you will see 'only gamble with one account for each household.

Is this right?
If there are multiple members in a family, those multiple members can access the same casino or gambling site account from one WiFi. Everyone has the right to participate in gambling and any citizen can participate in gambling whether it is for entertainment or money income, but if multiple members in a family have accounts under one router and show the same IP, banning accounts as multiple accounts is not supported in any way. Gambling authorities should make a long-term plan on this issue.
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