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September 04, 2014, 05:05:32 AM
#46
A true blessing for those coming from 3rd world and get free education and free health care.

People often criticize the us but if you look on how many people want to get into the us and Europe and how many into Russia and china....
There is a clear indicator where is better to live.

Exactly, people in the 3rd world nations see the various show case of benefits rendered by the US and other civilized countries on CNN,BBC,movies,documentaries and even on the internet.So if you ask me would you rot away in your country or approach the opportunity of the US Citizenship and live a better life if you were in such situation.
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September 03, 2014, 10:37:09 PM
#45
How to get the green card? Anyone is having experience here?

http://www.uscis.gov/greencard

Main methods:
- Employment
- Family/Marriage
- Lottery
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September 03, 2014, 09:40:22 PM
#44
After the introduction of Fat Car legislation, it is I imagine a nightmare for US citizens abroad as banks are increasingly hesitant to open accounts for them to avoid risk of fines for non compliance
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September 03, 2014, 09:04:56 PM
#43
things are getting worse in the U.S., but everybody also likes to complain. i'm pretty sure most people would choose U.S. citizenship vs. any other random country in the world (which could include developed countries or under-developed ones).
I could understand that, but I believe it's because American cultural influence around the world. Personally if I could have chosen what citizenship to have, it would be a Swiss citizenship.

well lot of people in this world try to get US green card every year and yes they chase "American Dream "
human has a nature instinct ' never satisfied '

for me as asian guy , maybe lived in some european countries will be a good choice than other country in this world.

How to get the green card? Anyone is having experience here?
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September 03, 2014, 10:22:21 AM
#42
Definitely a blessing. Try being born in third world country.
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September 03, 2014, 05:54:57 AM
#41
IMO, if aliens will land on Earth, they will consider to talk only with the most developed nation on the world: us
Does it really matter if one group of people sharpens its sticks with special rocks while another just rubs their sticks against whatever boulder they find? They could upload a 10kB series of texts from their Wikipedia-equivalent to one person and completely change our world as well as the power structure. Putin's given the secrets of potato phasers and wireless electricity with 95%+ efficiency, and Russia'll be the most developed nation within a few years.
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'All that glitters is not gold'
September 03, 2014, 05:44:23 AM
#40
IMO, if aliens will land on Earth, they will consider to talk only with the most developed nation on the world: us
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September 03, 2014, 05:36:09 AM
#39
In my point of view, who has great mind and utilize every opportunity in US, they will get benefited. Only US citizenship not benefited to anyone 
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September 02, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
#38
Being a US Citizen come with all kind of welfare benefit the rest of the world simple don't have access to.

Plus you get protection from the US government when traveling abroad.
Most european countries have much better welfare benifits then that are available in the US.

You do not only get protection from the US government (via acts of war), but also get some level of protection from overseas governments as they will not want to hurt a US citizen unless it is absolutely necessary. Also, in the event you are wrongfully arrested, you would likely have diplomatic support form the US government which has a lot of influence throughout the world.
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Your country may be your worst enemy
September 02, 2014, 04:51:26 PM
#37
Purchasing power is great in the US. Sales tax is lower than most other countries' VAT or equivalent. The ease to travel is also great. An American passport opens all doors. Then, the US may be the best place in the world to start a business. Entrepreneurs are praised everywhere, and if you have a good idea, you'll find investors.

The bad part is taxation on your worldwide income, and  many things done by the FBI, the CIA and the NSA are really dirty ones.
Property tax is horrible in some states. Worse than in Europe.
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September 02, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
#36
Being a US Citizen come with all kind of welfare benefit the rest of the world simple don't have access to.

Plus you get protection from the US government when traveling abroad.
legendary
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September 02, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
#35
It just came upon me that US Citizenship is more a curse not a Blessing.
Cons:
US has highest healthcare costs in the 1st world
US has highest gini coefficient in the 1st world
US has worst privacy laws in the 1st world
US spends 687.3 billion on military spending, which doesn't create capital or useless capital(war devices)
Pros:
No Value Added Tax
Significantly lower Income tax
Best Colleges in the world(if your privileged)
California (although I've heard Chile is a great alternative)

Anything else to rant about? Add more!




It depends on what's the other option. I'd prefer being a US citizen over being a citizen of nearly any other country.
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Pros:
-Virtually no taxation and heavy subsidization if you're making <$25k.
-Very high access to quality healthcare.
-Wide cultural diversity, well-developed cultural production.
-Virtually 100% access to quality K-12 education (maybe not the best, but it's not that bad).
-Hosts some of the most prestigious post-secondary schools in the world.
-Very large supply of educated citizens to employ in service sector.
-Relatively free media, I guess.... which seems a shame on everyone's part.
-I think Justin Bieber came from Canada rather than here.

Cons:
-Next to Canada. Bieber just walked right on over Tongue
-Social immobility from extremely progressive tax/welfare system. You can work 200% more, but only make 115% more at the end of the year unless you're paid an exceptionally high hourly rate.
-Cost-inefficient healthcare system, low life expectancy.
-Very high homicide rate and prison population.
-War on Everything by means of shoving so much money down the problem's throat, we imagine we must be killing it by choking it to death.
-Government's long-term plan for preventing economic collapse is inflating debt away.
-Extreme import reliance, consumer nation relies on 3rd world & developing countries to work so we can eat. Mining, manufacturing, agriculture makes up ~15% of total US GDP.
-Piss-poor Internet infrastructure, crumbling roads, a train system I can't imagine is worse anywhere else on Earth.
-Over-educated population - very difficult for uneducated to rise above class they were born into, while educated also have little chance at generation-over-generation success due to extremely progressive taxation.
-US military adventurism, blood on almost everyone's hands.
-US immigration & drug policy, among other shameful government policies with effects ranging from unnecessary deaths to destitution to no, really, I need a freakin' passport to walk a few blocks to Canada, now?
-US domestic spying, arbitrary law respected only at will by government
legendary
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It's a blessing 100%.

Not saying I'm an incredibly worldly person but I've visited my fair share of countries and politics/foreign policy aside, the United States is the best country in the world.

I wouldn't live in any other country.
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To Be Or Not To Be
things are getting worse in the U.S., but everybody also likes to complain. i'm pretty sure most people would choose U.S. citizenship vs. any other random country in the world (which could include developed countries or under-developed ones).
I could understand that, but I believe it's because American cultural influence around the world. Personally if I could have chosen what citizenship to have, it would be a Swiss citizenship.

well lot of people in this world try to get US green card every year and yes they chase "American Dream "
human has a nature instinct ' never satisfied '

for me as asian guy , maybe lived in some european countries will be a good choice than other country in this world.
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things are getting worse in the U.S., but everybody also likes to complain. i'm pretty sure most people would choose U.S. citizenship vs. any other random country in the world (which could include developed countries or under-developed ones).
I could understand that, but I believe it's because American cultural influence around the world. Personally if I could have chosen what citizenship to have, it would be a Swiss citizenship.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
things are getting worse in the U.S., but everybody also likes to complain. i'm pretty sure most people would choose U.S. citizenship vs. any other random country in the world (which could include developed countries or under-developed ones).
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Time is on our side, yes it is!
It is a blessing for people who are depended on government and required state subsidy. That is more than 50% of the population.


That is only the case for the time being.  That can't be sustained for long and I wouldn't want to be dependent on them when things start to fall apart.  Government's track record in such instances is far from stellar.
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California?  WTF

California is more like a EU state than anything else in the US.  It has social programs coming out of it's ass and has to do creative bookkeeping to claim it has a balanced budget.

If anything Greece copied CA's public employee and benefits model.


The only good thing about the state is the natural resources and the landscape and even that sucks now with this horrible drought.
I'm not a fan of California's economics at all, but weather wise and on social issue(besides guns) is what I listed them for, should have made that more specific.
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California?  WTF

California is more like a EU state than anything else in the US.  It has social programs coming out of it's ass and has to do creative bookkeeping to claim it has a balanced budget.

If anything Greece copied CA's public employee and benefits model.


The only good thing about the state is the natural resources and the landscape and even that sucks now with this horrible drought.

Its natural resources will be leached dry though eventually so all you have landscape which is slowly being destroyed by development.
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