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California?  WTF

California is more like a EU state than anything else in the US.  It has social programs coming out of it's ass and has to do creative bookkeeping to claim it has a balanced budget.

If anything Greece copied CA's public employee and benefits model.


The only good thing about the state is the natural resources and the landscape and even that sucks now with this horrible drought.
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depends really on many factors but like someone has already said its great if you love to leach off other peoples taxes
sr. member
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It just came upon me that US Citizenship is more a curse not a Blessing.
Cons:
US has highest healthcare costs in the 1st world
US has highest gini coefficient in the 1st world
US has worst privacy laws in the 1st world
US spends 687.3 billion on military spending, which doesn't create capital or useless capital(war devices)
Pros:
No Value Added Tax
Significantly lower Income tax
Best Colleges in the world(if your privileged)
California (although I've heard Chile is a great alternative)

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It can be very good or very bad, depending on your situation. But everyone privacy here gets invaded. You have more freedom in the former soviet states now than in the US. In terms of comfort, many of us live comfortable. It's better to live here than say Somalia, but you can live comfortable or freely in other places too.
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Well in that case if I had to pick between the two, it would be Liberal Democracy due to decentralization of government power. But the way it was presented looked more like Federal State vs Unitary State.
legendary
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For a normal citizen, it is a blessing. Because:

#1. Added protection. You will be rescued within hours, even if you are kidnapped by pirates in Somalia.
#2. No need for VISA, for visiting most of the world nations.
#3. Access to the biggest job market in the world.
None of those really apply in America anymore for a normal citizen, maybe if you're at least Petite Bourgeoisie, but anything less is extremely hard. Basically Numbers 1 and 2 in my opinion only apply to the top 10% of income earners have the privilege of visiting foreign nations, and possibly getting captured. Biggest jobs market? Yeah if your well privileged enough to get a STEM college degree then this applies, anything less than STEM masters degree which is only available to Petite Bourgeoisie and Bourgeoisie dooms you to low pay service industry jobs(McDonalds, Walmart, etc) due to the end of American domestic manufacturing. But that is my opinion, and you have yours so lets be friends Wink

Another issue/con with the US is it's useless subsidy for the Defense of; Canada, South Korea, and the Western World, the US shouldn't be paying for the defense of nations that have the complete ability to defend themselves. Hell the UK, and Greece(explains a lot) are the only nations in NATO meeting the standard of paying 2% of GDP in Defense Spending.

Pretty much any non ex-convict can buy and own a firearm or as many as you want and all the ammunition you can afford. And the kinds of firearms range from old school flintlocks to modern semi-automatic weapons. I used to be what one would call a 'gun polisher' which means someone who lives and breathes the 2nd Amendment. I still hold it in high regard but I'm just not into guns like I used to be. For instance, I envisioned myself w/ all the top of the line pistols and assault weapons but in reality, I'm cool w/ a few pistols and a shotgun for home defense and that's it. We live off the beaten path and most of my neighbors have plenty of guns so our block is pretty secure.
Totally agree with you on this one, US has most Liberal gun laws in the 1st world. Grin
Which kind of democratic system do you prefer, People's Democratic Dictatorship or Liberal Democracy?
Please explain each one, and I will provide an answer.
Well, I'll try to forget about rhetoric and speak about the major differences. Smiley

Liberal democracy is a form of government in which representative democracy operates under the principle of separation of powers. Power is divided between judicial, executive and legislative branches on all regional levels. And branches of power are formed through independent elections procedures and have some degree of autonomy.

People's Democratic Dictatorship aka People's Democracy is a form of government in which representative democracy operates under the principle of democratic centralism. The power is unified and indivisible on all levels, all decision-making processes are handled by hierarchical system of councils. Regional councils are formed through elections, but higher councils are formed by members of lower councils and lower councils have the right to revoke their representatives. In some implementations high council could be controlled by another administrative body which could be formed through direct elections or appointed by the president.
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For a normal citizen, it is a blessing. Because:

#1. Added protection. You will be rescued within hours, even if you are kidnapped by pirates in Somalia.
#2. No need for VISA, for visiting most of the world nations.
#3. Access to the biggest job market in the world.
None of those really apply in America anymore for a normal citizen, maybe if you're at least Petite Bourgeoisie, but anything less is extremely hard. Basically Numbers 1 and 2 in my opinion only apply to the top 10% of income earners have the privilege of visiting foreign nations, and possibly getting captured. Biggest jobs market? Yeah if your well privileged enough to get a STEM college degree then this applies, anything less than STEM masters degree which is only available to Petite Bourgeoisie and Bourgeoisie dooms you to low pay service industry jobs(McDonalds, Walmart, etc) due to the end of American domestic manufacturing. But that is my opinion, and you have yours so lets be friends Wink

Another issue/con with the US is it's useless subsidy for the Defense of; Canada, South Korea, and the Western World, the US shouldn't be paying for the defense of nations that have the complete ability to defend themselves. Hell the UK, and Greece(explains a lot) are the only nations in NATO meeting the standard of paying 2% of GDP in Defense Spending.

Pretty much any non ex-convict can buy and own a firearm or as many as you want and all the ammunition you can afford. And the kinds of firearms range from old school flintlocks to modern semi-automatic weapons. I used to be what one would call a 'gun polisher' which means someone who lives and breathes the 2nd Amendment. I still hold it in high regard but I'm just not into guns like I used to be. For instance, I envisioned myself w/ all the top of the line pistols and assault weapons but in reality, I'm cool w/ a few pistols and a shotgun for home defense and that's it. We live off the beaten path and most of my neighbors have plenty of guns so our block is pretty secure.
Totally agree with you on this one, US has most Liberal gun laws in the 1st world. Grin
Which kind of democratic system do you prefer, People's Democratic Dictatorship or Liberal Democracy?
Please explain each one, and I will provide an answer.

Blessing.  Only exception may be if you are a US citizen and have to work or live abroad for extended periods.  Due to restrictive income laws many international banks refuse to do business with US citizens.

The USA is in a period of stagnation or even decline but the rest of the industrial world, e.g. Europe is not doing too great either.  The fact that other countries are doing better doesn't mean USA is doing poorly.

However, if the people of the US do not muster some political will to prevent constantly being lied to about their long term prospects I can see the US entering a decline along the lines of post WWII United Kingdom.
On regards to the stagnation economically, Europe, Canada, and to a greatly lesser degree the US rely on capital producers from the 3rd world to immigrate to their countries in order to sustain them due to low domestic birth rates. This parasitic behavior has caused the developing world to have issues with creating a capital base from which to tax.
legendary
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Blessing.  Only exception may be if you are a US citizen and have to work or live abroad for extended periods.  Due to restrictive income laws many international banks refuse to do business with US citizens.

The USA is in a period of stagnation or even decline but the rest of the industrial world, e.g. Europe is not doing too great either.  The fact that other countries are doing better doesn't mean USA is doing poorly.

However, if the people of the US do not muster some political will to prevent constantly being lied to about their long term prospects I can see the US entering a decline along the lines of post WWII United Kingdom.
legendary
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Which kind of democratic system do you prefer, People's Democratic Dictatorship or Liberal Democracy?
It would be nice if our original constitutionally limited republic drafted by the framers didn't get perverted into a democracy which was then played into an oligarchy but at this point, I'd take the no confidence preference allotted by a parliamentary system. That said, we still have widespread gun ownership under the current system. If a benevolent monarchy was possible, I'd go with that also. Smiley Ultimately, I'd prefer a totally free society/world w/o governments. We're miles off I know.
legendary
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For a normal citizen, it is a blessing. Because:

#1. Added protection. You will be rescued within hours, even if you are kidnapped by pirates in Somalia.
#2. No need for VISA, for visiting most of the world nations.
#3. Access to the biggest job market in the world.
None of those really apply in America anymore for a normal citizen, maybe if you're at least Petite Bourgeoisie, but anything less is extremely hard. Basically Numbers 1 and 2 in my opinion only apply to the top 10% of income earners have the privilege of visiting foreign nations, and possibly getting captured. Biggest jobs market? Yeah if your well privileged enough to get a STEM college degree then this applies, anything less than STEM masters degree which is only available to Petite Bourgeoisie and Bourgeoisie dooms you to low pay service industry jobs(McDonalds, Walmart, etc) due to the end of American domestic manufacturing. But that is my opinion, and you have yours so lets be friends Wink

Another issue/con with the US is it's useless subsidy for the Defense of; Canada, South Korea, and the Western World, the US shouldn't be paying for the defense of nations that have the complete ability to defend themselves. Hell the UK, and Greece(explains a lot) are the only nations in NATO meeting the standard of paying 2% of GDP in Defense Spending.

Pretty much any non ex-convict can buy and own a firearm or as many as you want and all the ammunition you can afford. And the kinds of firearms range from old school flintlocks to modern semi-automatic weapons. I used to be what one would call a 'gun polisher' which means someone who lives and breathes the 2nd Amendment. I still hold it in high regard but I'm just not into guns like I used to be. For instance, I envisioned myself w/ all the top of the line pistols and assault weapons but in reality, I'm cool w/ a few pistols and a shotgun for home defense and that's it. We live off the beaten path and most of my neighbors have plenty of guns so our block is pretty secure.
Totally agree with you on this one, US has most Liberal gun laws in the 1st world. Grin
Which kind of democratic system do you prefer, People's Democratic Dictatorship or Liberal Democracy?
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For a normal citizen, it is a blessing. Because:

#1. Added protection. You will be rescued within hours, even if you are kidnapped by pirates in Somalia.
#2. No need for VISA, for visiting most of the world nations.
#3. Access to the biggest job market in the world.
None of those really apply in America anymore for a normal citizen, maybe if you're at least Petite Bourgeoisie, but anything less is extremely hard. Basically Numbers 1 and 2 in my opinion only apply to the top 10% of income earners have the privilege of visiting foreign nations, and possibly getting captured. Biggest jobs market? Yeah if your well privileged enough to get a STEM college degree then this applies, anything less than STEM masters degree which is only available to Petite Bourgeoisie and Bourgeoisie dooms you to low pay service industry jobs(McDonalds, Walmart, etc) due to the end of American domestic manufacturing. But that is my opinion, and you have yours so lets be friends Wink

Another issue/con with the US is it's useless subsidy for the Defense of; Canada, South Korea, and the Western World, the US shouldn't be paying for the defense of nations that have the complete ability to defend themselves. Hell the UK, and Greece(explains a lot) are the only nations in NATO meeting the standard of paying 2% of GDP in Defense Spending.

Pretty much any non ex-convict can buy and own a firearm or as many as you want and all the ammunition you can afford. And the kinds of firearms range from old school flintlocks to modern semi-automatic weapons. I used to be what one would call a 'gun polisher' which means someone who lives and breathes the 2nd Amendment. I still hold it in high regard but I'm just not into guns like I used to be. For instance, I envisioned myself w/ all the top of the line pistols and assault weapons but in reality, I'm cool w/ a few pistols and a shotgun for home defense and that's it. We live off the beaten path and most of my neighbors have plenty of guns so our block is pretty secure.
Totally agree with you on this one, US has most Liberal gun laws in the 1st world. Grin
legendary
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For a normal citizen, it is a blessing. Because:

#1. Added protection. You will be rescued within hours, even if you are kidnapped by pirates in Somalia.
#2. No need for VISA, for visiting most of the world nations.
#3. Access to the biggest job market in the world.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1001
Pretty much any non ex-convict can buy and own a firearm or as many as you want and all the ammunition you can afford. And the kinds of firearms range from old school flintlocks to modern semi-automatic weapons. I used to be what one would call a 'gun polisher' which means someone who lives and breathes the 2nd Amendment. I still hold it in high regard but I'm just not into guns like I used to be. For instance, I envisioned myself w/ all the top of the line pistols and assault weapons but in reality, I'm cool w/ a few pistols and a shotgun for home defense and that's it. We live off the beaten path and most of my neighbors have plenty of guns so our block is pretty secure.
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It's a curse. The FSA (Fascist States of America) is a hellhole.

And the Retarded Union of Super Idiots and Alcoholics is heaven on earth.
I have never heard of a place called "Rusia".
legendary
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It's a curse of curse, because taxation rules are crazy.

http://americansabroad.org/issues/taxation/us-taxes-while-living-abroad-faq/
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~105% Debt to GDP. ouch.
 
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in defi we trust
It's a curse. The FSA (Fascist States of America) is a hellhole.

And the Retarded Union of Super Idiots and Alcoholics is heaven on earth.
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freedomainradio.com
It's a curse. The FSA (Fascist States of America) is a hellhole.
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It's a blessing if you are white.
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It's a blessing. Complaining about expensive healthcare? Yes, it should be free, but at least you have healthcare. Better than just dying in the street.

Absolutely.

As a soldier I appreciate the freedom the U.S. gives me and that is why I fight for mine and everyone else's right to be an American.


It gives you the freedom to invade any country you want even when it isnt a threat?

It is no surprise that the U.S. has it's own flaws, however we do not have savage militia soldiers terrorizing and killing hundreds of people which seems to be occurring frequently in other countries lately.

LOL. The irony. America and American soldiers commit massacres all across the world every year without fail.
legendary
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It just came upon me that US Citizenship is more a curse not a Blessing.
Cons:
US has highest healthcare costs in the 1st world
US has highest gini coefficient in the 1st world
US has worst privacy laws in the 1st world
US spends 687.3 billion on military spending, which doesn't create capital or useless capital(war devices)
Pros:
No Value Added Tax
Significantly lower Income tax
California (although I've heard Chile is a great alternative)

Anything else to rant about? Add more!




You may be right to criticize USA situation because healthcare is expensive, bad privacy lows etc. but please understand that in overall quality of life (salary, quality of education, available jobs, security, quality of health care etc.) USA in one of the best countries in the world.,
If you want to study or find good paying job, or start business, you will go to USA, not Africa or some other third world country.
what do you think, why so many people from Mexico so desperately trying to enter USA, even with a risk of life?
From their viewpoint USA is golden opportunity, almost heaven on the earth.
Sure, many things can improve in USA, like in any other country, but for the most people in the world US Citizenship will be great blessing, not punishment Smiley
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