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So IS is really Made in USA.
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Topic: ISIS - things are about to get a little bit rocky (Read 7032 times)
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Do someone really and sincierly believe, that the bombing is against the IS...?
When you go back in time, there is IS, and was ISIS, Al Nusra, Al Kaeda, Taliban... errr, Freedom Fighters:
http://dgibbs.faculty.arizona.edu/brzezinski_interview
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into the war and looked for a way to provoke it?
B: It wasn’t quite like that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
Q : When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against secret US involvement in Afghanistan, nobody believed them. However, there was an element of truth in this. You don’t regret any of this today?
B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, essentially: “We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war." Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war...
Fast forward to IS/ISIS situation:
John McCain with his friends:
http://s29.postimg.org/wnvj54a1z/John_Mc_Cain_with_ISIS_fighters_in_Syria.jpg
http://s4.postimg.org/j3s64peh9/Mc_Cain_in_bed_with_Bakr_al_Baghdadi.jpg
http://s22.postimg.org/d3mltro6p/Mc_Cain_in_bed_with_ISIS.jpg
http://wertyzreport.com/clanek/dempsey-spojenci-financuji-isis
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06/23/isis-runs-ad-campaign-featuring-photo-john-mccain/
http://s4.postimg.org/qer10pa6l/poradci_vlady_USA_potrebuji_Al_Kaidu.jpg
http://www.cfr.org/syria/al-qaedas-specter-syria/p28782
"Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now."
The Covert Origins of ISIS
http://scgnews.com/the-covert-origins-of-isis
We helped creating ISIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq6Z0aj5PEM
McCain say that every advisors wanted to arm ISIS officially 2 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rm509CQyi0
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So IS is really Made in USA.
When you go back in time, there is IS, and was ISIS, Al Nusra, Al Kaeda, Taliban... errr, Freedom Fighters:
http://dgibbs.faculty.arizona.edu/brzezinski_interview
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into the war and looked for a way to provoke it?
B: It wasn’t quite like that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
Q : When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against secret US involvement in Afghanistan, nobody believed them. However, there was an element of truth in this. You don’t regret any of this today?
B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, essentially: “We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war." Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war...
Fast forward to IS/ISIS situation:
John McCain with his friends:
http://s29.postimg.org/wnvj54a1z/John_Mc_Cain_with_ISIS_fighters_in_Syria.jpg
http://s4.postimg.org/j3s64peh9/Mc_Cain_in_bed_with_Bakr_al_Baghdadi.jpg
http://s22.postimg.org/d3mltro6p/Mc_Cain_in_bed_with_ISIS.jpg
http://wertyzreport.com/clanek/dempsey-spojenci-financuji-isis
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06/23/isis-runs-ad-campaign-featuring-photo-john-mccain/
http://s4.postimg.org/qer10pa6l/poradci_vlady_USA_potrebuji_Al_Kaidu.jpg
http://www.cfr.org/syria/al-qaedas-specter-syria/p28782
"Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now."
The Covert Origins of ISIS
http://scgnews.com/the-covert-origins-of-isis
We helped creating ISIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq6Z0aj5PEM
McCain say that every advisors wanted to arm ISIS officially 2 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rm509CQyi0
...
So IS is really Made in USA.
Russia wasn't allowed to feed bombarded civilians in Donetsk, but US can "accidentally" drop weapons to ISIS.
They have also accidentally bombed the anti-ISIS Kurdish forces and civilians, as well as accidentally dropping weapons (explosives) to ISIS a couple of days ago.
And now the reason for ISIS creation coalesces into form:
US is to bomb oil pipelines in Syria so as to "prevent ISIS from earning money" from selling oil. Why not bomb the countries that buy oil from ISIS (Turkey) and close the ISIS bank accounts in Europe. Instead Syrian infrastructure will be destroyed, as initially planned.
http://ria.ru/world/20141024/1029854660.html
Russia wasn't allowed to feed bombarded civilians in Donetsk, but US can "accidentally" drop weapons to ISIS.
In hindsight, I honestly think if we were going to support somebody in the middle east it should have been the Kurds, the problem is though they want an independent state and that would go against the imperialist beliefs of many of the western countries interfering in the middle east in a number of ways. I hope the Kurds don't get exterminated, it's like the Spanish Civil War all over again, they aren't fully supporting the Kurds because they want total control over what goes on in that region.
Bombing a few houses a day will not block the ISIS advance, especially when Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is brazenly and openly supporting the Islamists. Feels bad for the Syrian Kurds, who have been fighting the heavily armed ISIS without proper weapons.
I wonder is how long it will take before the "left-wing" folks to show up defending ISIS' members human rights... 
They are already defending the ISIS.
Check these news articles:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/06/richard-barrett-mi6-isis-counter-terrorism
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/isis-defectors-coming-home-should-4173302
The leftists are using these terrorists as just another chance to get a few more Muslim votes in the next election.
lol are you calling the ex-MI6 chief a leftist?
I think a former counter-terrorism chief would know more about potential threats to the West than most members on this forum (or the media for that matter).
Not an ounce of truth, all truthiness therein.
I wonder is how long it will take before the "left-wing" folks to show up defending ISIS' members human rights...
They are already defending the ISIS.
Check these news articles:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/06/richard-barrett-mi6-isis-counter-terrorism
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/isis-defectors-coming-home-should-4173302
The leftists are using these terrorists as just another chance to get a few more Muslim votes in the next election.
lol are you calling the ex-MI6 chief a leftist?
I think a former counter-terrorism chief would know more about potential threats to the West than most members on this forum (or the media for that matter).
Too late to go back .. ISIS will be done before the start of the new year.
No updates about this ISIS thing..
Obama is not joking anymore.
Too late to go back .. ISIS will be done before the start of the new year.
BTW.... what I am going to do with the video link, when the entire conversation is in Russian without any English subtitles? I don't understand more than a dozen words in Russian. 
Actually I'm talking about emotions and way to discuss issues rather than content of the discussion itself... It's hard to disagree that not so many presidents are participating in the talk show as the guest. Maybe I'll make subtitles later.
I think that there will be some changes in your opinion after watching this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNKEmINWAik
Don't pay too much attention to title, it was made by idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNKEmINWAik
Don't pay too much attention to title, it was made by idiot.
You might be telling the truth.... I have never traveled to Russia and you are a Russian resident. But the part about Chechnya ranking the first place in maternity capital was posted in Izvestiya, a very reliable source.
http://izvestia.ru/news/557298
BTW.... what I am going to do with the video link, when the entire conversation is in Russian without any English subtitles? I don't understand more than a dozen words in Russian.
As long as Kremlin gives him billions of rubles every year (in maternity benefits alone Chechen residents received over 1 billion RUR last year), he will remain loyal to Russia.
You're a little misinformed by trolls. Chechen Republic is at 11 place in terms of amount of dotations.he will return to his old habits, i.e waging guerrilla warfare against the Russian citizens.
I think that there will be some changes in your opinion after watching this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNKEmINWAik
Don't pay too much attention to title, it was made by idiot.
Obama claims ‘enough authority’ to act against Islamic State
http://rt.com/usa/186524-obama-authority-islamic-state/
So, Police State against Islamic State
West may use ISIS as pretext to bomb Syrian govt forces - Russia's FM
http://rt.com/news/186356-lavrov-syria-bombing-west/
Listen also to this:
Ken O'Keefe on the Syrian conflict. Hard truths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st05PWCypLQ
Cameron is quick:
UK military plans 3 new Middle East bases to battle ISIS
http://rt.com/uk/186624-bases-middle-east-isis/
I think the real goal is what I have highlighted.
http://rt.com/usa/186524-obama-authority-islamic-state/
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President Obama told Congressional leaders that he has enough authority and doesn’t need their authorization to take action against the Islamic State, ahead of a speech on 9/11 eve that may pave way for further US military action in Iraq and even Syria.
So, Police State against Islamic State
West may use ISIS as pretext to bomb Syrian govt forces - Russia's FM
http://rt.com/news/186356-lavrov-syria-bombing-west/
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If the West bombs Islamic State militants in Syria without consulting Damascus, the anti-ISIS alliance may use the occasion to launch airstrikes against President Bashar Assad’s forces, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.
“There are reasons to suspect that air strikes on Syrian territory may target not only areas controlled by Islamic State militants, but the government troops may also be attacked on the quiet to weaken the positions of Bashar Assad’s army,” Lavrov said Tuesday.
“There are reasons to suspect that air strikes on Syrian territory may target not only areas controlled by Islamic State militants, but the government troops may also be attacked on the quiet to weaken the positions of Bashar Assad’s army,” Lavrov said Tuesday.
Listen also to this:
Ken O'Keefe on the Syrian conflict. Hard truths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st05PWCypLQ
Cameron is quick:
UK military plans 3 new Middle East bases to battle ISIS
http://rt.com/uk/186624-bases-middle-east-isis/
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Three British military bases could be set up in the Persian Gulf to fight the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS), a source in the Ministry of Defence said. The bases could be part of a larger US-led offensive to battle militants in Iraq and Syria.
I think the real goal is what I have highlighted.
Well maybe, the president of the most powerful country has something in his sleeve for these guys. lets just wait.
Who? Xi Jinping? He is not at all concerned about the ISIS militants. Well, at least until the ISIS militants attack the Chinese owned oil rigs in Iraq.
Meanwhile the Western MSM is busy defending the NATO in sending arms shipments to the ISIS.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/08/isis-jihadis-using-arms-troop-carriers-supplied-by-us-saudi-arabia
How did these weapons ended up with ISIS?
Well maybe, the president of the most powerful country has something in his sleeve for these guys. lets just wait.
Golf tees.LOL. Maybe a Chicago Bulls jersey.
Well maybe, the president of the most powerful country has something in his sleeve for these guys. lets just wait.
Golf tees.
Well maybe, the president of the most powerful country has something in his sleeve for these guys. lets just wait.
I wonder is how long it will take before the "left-wing" folks to show up defending ISIS' members human rights...
They are already defending the ISIS.
Check these news articles:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/06/richard-barrett-mi6-isis-counter-terrorism
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/isis-defectors-coming-home-should-4173302
The leftists are using these terrorists as just another chance to get a few more Muslim votes in the next election.
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