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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 06, 2014, 06:40:33 AM
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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 06, 2014, 06:31:02 AM
Quote from: murraypaul on May 06, 2014, 06:17:39 AM
Yes, because Subway is the only place in the UK which sells pork.
Oh, wait...

Jews have been to the United Kingdom for the past 1,000 years or so. Pork is a taboo food for them too. Yet I don't see any of them demanding that restaurants should serve Kosher food and they should refrain from serving pork... just saying.  Grin

Also, there are close to a million Hindus in the UK, for whom beef is a taboo food. They are also not making any demands to ban restaurants which serve beef.

Most Muslims aren't calling for this either and most probably don't care as the majority just won't eat at the places that do, but of course you people will seize on the small but vocal militant minority. And Subway has done this of their own volition and are free to serve whatever they want whether you or anyone else disagrees with it.

Quote from: murraypaul on May 06, 2014, 06:38:48 AM
They haven't suddenly 'banned' pork from 185 branches, there have been Halah branches for years, it is just that now someone has decided to publish a misleading story to stir up bigots.

Key point.
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 06, 2014, 06:38:48 AM
#100
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 06, 2014, 06:31:02 AM
Quote from: murraypaul on May 06, 2014, 06:17:39 AM
Yes, because Subway is the only place in the UK which sells pork.
Oh, wait...

Jews have been to the United Kingdom for the past 1,000 years or so. Pork is a taboo food for them too. Yet I don't see any of them demanding that restaurants should serve Kosher food and they should refrain from serving pork... just saying.  Grin

You don't think there are any kosher restaurants in the UK?

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Also, there are close to a million Hindus in the UK, for whom beef is a taboo food. They are also not making any demands to ban restaurants which serve beef.

Who are making demand? From the link you posted, not Muslims:

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This week people have taken to Twitter calling for a boycott of the chain, and protests have been organised for this weekend outside outlets nationwide.

But a spokeswoman for the company said the menu had not changed, and stores had been able to open as halal franchises since 2007, due to customer demand.

Turkey ham and turkey rashers are being used instead of pork products in 185 stores nationwide, where all meat is prepared according to halal rules.

Four stores in East Lancashire currently serve halal meat: Texaco Service Station in Nelson, Blackburn Beehive Service Station, the Blakey Moor store in Blackburn town centre, and Blackburn Total Garage.

In the past, police have had to intervene after right-wing groups organised protests outside KFC shops in East Lancashire when they started to serve halal meat.
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A Subway spokeswoman for Subway said: “Due to the growing popularity of the Subway chain, with the diverse multicultural population across the UK and Ireland, we put a programme in place in 2007 to ensure that the population demographic is taken into account when new store openings are considered in order that we meet consumer demand in each location.

Subway thinks they can sell more sandwiches by allowing Halal franchises. That is the market at work.

From another link:
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Both Stoke outlets are now serving halal-only products – the Shelton location since it opened five and a half years ago and the Tunstall store for the last few years.

They haven't suddenly 'banned' pork from 185 branches, there have been Halah branches for years, it is just that now someone has decided to publish a misleading story to stir up bigots.
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 06, 2014, 06:31:02 AM
#99
Quote from: murraypaul on May 06, 2014, 06:17:39 AM
Yes, because Subway is the only place in the UK which sells pork.
Oh, wait...

Jews have been to the United Kingdom for the past 1,000 years or so. Pork is a taboo food for them too. Yet I don't see any of them demanding that restaurants should serve Kosher food and they should refrain from serving pork... just saying.  Grin

Also, there are close to a million Hindus in the UK, for whom beef is a taboo food. They are also not making any demands to ban restaurants which serve beef.
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 06, 2014, 06:17:39 AM
#98
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 03, 2014, 01:02:59 PM
^^^ This is exactly the problem. Muslims are not even 5% of the population in UK. Now the remaining 95% of the population is unable to eat pork due to unfair demands from Muslims.

Yes, because Subway is the only place in the UK which sells pork.
Oh, wait...
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
#97
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 02:39:55 PM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 02:02:05 PM
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...

Welcome to the Bitcointalk Islamaphobes Association, Wilikon.  Grin

I was the first member to be awarded with the honorary title of BT Islamaphobe. You are the second. Anyone interested in joining us?

The few muslims I know as friends will be surprised to say the least. So will be the owner of one of my favorite African food restaurant Grin

Bitcointalk Islamaphobes Association or "BIAs Club"...

Ah and now the classic response 'how can I be racist I've got a *insert minority here* friend and I just love their food  Roll Eyes.

And your response was a classic one too... Roll Eyes
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 02:45:01 PM
#96
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 02:39:55 PM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 02:02:05 PM
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...

Welcome to the Bitcointalk Islamaphobes Association, Wilikon.  Grin

I was the first member to be awarded with the honorary title of BT Islamaphobe. You are the second. Anyone interested in joining us?

The few muslims I know as friends will be surprised to say the least. So will be the owner of one of my favorite African food restaurant Grin

Bitcointalk Islamaphobes Association or "BIAs Club"...

Ah and now the classic response 'how can I be racist I've got a *insert minority here* friend and I just love their food  Roll Eyes.
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 02:44:44 PM
#95
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 02:33:40 PM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:22:42 AM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:02:08 AM
Anti-Islamic plebs aren't exactly going to be happy about are they? Simple solution is to not eat there and take your custom elsewhere. I'm sure there'll be a Subway restaurant within walking distant that doesn't serve Halal anyway.

I don't think that people who are opposed to eating halal meat would ever again dine in any of the Subway restaurants (i.e the ones which serves non-halal items). The reputation is lost.

Depends on their level of Islamaphobia or their hatred of animal cruelty. But most plebs won't really care and will just go along because they're ignorant and don't like Muslims, but they'll still probably go home and hypocritically have a kebab at the end of the day. And I don't see how Subway's reputation would be lost. Subway is a franchise and each business owner is free to serve halal or non-Halal meat just as people are free not to eat at that particular franchise.

Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...





That's what Islamaphobes usually say. Call it whatever you want but it is usually a mix of intolerance, ignorance, xenophobia and racism, and those things definitely exist. Ignorant people just tend to have a dislike of people who practice Islam and come from the Middle East (or just look like they might do).

Xenophobia and racism.. So now Islam is a race? Isn't ignorant to say that?



Where did I say it was a race? People usually dislike Islam because it's a religion adhered to by people of other races and ethnicities, specifically middle eastern and African etc, hence why it's a mixture of all those things I said. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is anti-Islam who also wasn't a racist, whether they wanted to admit it or not.


http://www.islamreview.com/testimonials/My_Reasons_Why_I_Quit_Islam_Forever.shtml
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/04/04/criticism-of-islam-is-not-islamophobia/
http://www.asiasentinel.com/society/doing-the-impossible-quitting-islam-in-malaysia/

All those people are anti-islam and racists then. Even dark skins non white people who quit the religion of the birth by choice? Interesting...

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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 02:39:55 PM
#94
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 02:02:05 PM
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...

Welcome to the Bitcointalk Islamaphobes Association, Wilikon.  Grin

I was the first member to be awarded with the honorary title of BT Islamaphobe. You are the second. Anyone interested in joining us?

The few muslims I know as friends will be surprised to say the least. So will be the owner of one of my favorite African food restaurant Grin

Bitcointalk Islamaphobes Association or "BIAs Club"...
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 02:39:32 PM
#93
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 02:33:40 PM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:22:42 AM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:02:08 AM
Anti-Islamic plebs aren't exactly going to be happy about are they? Simple solution is to not eat there and take your custom elsewhere. I'm sure there'll be a Subway restaurant within walking distant that doesn't serve Halal anyway.

I don't think that people who are opposed to eating halal meat would ever again dine in any of the Subway restaurants (i.e the ones which serves non-halal items). The reputation is lost.

Depends on their level of Islamaphobia or their hatred of animal cruelty. But most plebs won't really care and will just go along because they're ignorant and don't like Muslims, but they'll still probably go home and hypocritically have a kebab at the end of the day. And I don't see how Subway's reputation would be lost. Subway is a franchise and each business owner is free to serve halal or non-Halal meat just as people are free not to eat at that particular franchise.

Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...





That's what Islamaphobes usually say. Call it whatever you want but it is usually a mix of intolerance, ignorance, xenophobia and racism, and those things definitely exist. Ignorant people just tend to have a dislike of people who practice Islam and come from the Middle East (or just look like they might do).

Xenophobia and racism.. So now Islam is a race? Isn't ignorant to say that?



Where did I say it was a race? People usually dislike Islam because it's a religion adhered to by people of other races and ethnicities, specifically middle eastern and African etc, hence why it's a mixture of all those things I said. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is anti-Islam who also wasn't a racist, whether they wanted to admit it or not.
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 02:33:40 PM
#92
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:22:42 AM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:02:08 AM
Anti-Islamic plebs aren't exactly going to be happy about are they? Simple solution is to not eat there and take your custom elsewhere. I'm sure there'll be a Subway restaurant within walking distant that doesn't serve Halal anyway.

I don't think that people who are opposed to eating halal meat would ever again dine in any of the Subway restaurants (i.e the ones which serves non-halal items). The reputation is lost.

Depends on their level of Islamaphobia or their hatred of animal cruelty. But most plebs won't really care and will just go along because they're ignorant and don't like Muslims, but they'll still probably go home and hypocritically have a kebab at the end of the day. And I don't see how Subway's reputation would be lost. Subway is a franchise and each business owner is free to serve halal or non-Halal meat just as people are free not to eat at that particular franchise.

Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...





That's what Islamaphobes usually say. Call it whatever you want but it is usually a mix of intolerance, ignorance, xenophobia and racism, and those things definitely exist. Ignorant people just tend to have a dislike of people who practice Islam and come from the Middle East (or just look like they might do).

Xenophobia and racism.. So now Islam is a race? Isn't ignorant to say that?

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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 02:05:51 PM
#91
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 02:02:05 PM
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...

Welcome to the Bitcointalk Islamaphobes Association, Wilikon.  Grin

I was the first member to be awarded with the honorary title of BT Islamaphobe. You are the second. Anyone interested in joining us?

I'm not sure if intolerance and ignorance is something you should be proud of.
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 02:02:05 PM
#90
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...

Welcome to the Bitcointalk Islamaphobes Association, Wilikon.  Grin

I was the first member to be awarded with the honorary title of BT Islamaphobe. You are the second. Anyone interested in joining us?
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 01:49:01 PM
#89
Quote from: Wilikon on May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:22:42 AM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:02:08 AM
Anti-Islamic plebs aren't exactly going to be happy about are they? Simple solution is to not eat there and take your custom elsewhere. I'm sure there'll be a Subway restaurant within walking distant that doesn't serve Halal anyway.

I don't think that people who are opposed to eating halal meat would ever again dine in any of the Subway restaurants (i.e the ones which serves non-halal items). The reputation is lost.

Depends on their level of Islamaphobia or their hatred of animal cruelty. But most plebs won't really care and will just go along because they're ignorant and don't like Muslims, but they'll still probably go home and hypocritically have a kebab at the end of the day. And I don't see how Subway's reputation would be lost. Subway is a franchise and each business owner is free to serve halal or non-Halal meat just as people are free not to eat at that particular franchise.

Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...




That's what Islamaphobes usually say. Call it whatever you want but it is usually a mix of intolerance, ignorance, xenophobia and racism, and those things definitely exist. Ignorant people just tend to have a dislike of people who practice Islam and come from the Middle East (or just look like they might do).
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
#88
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:22:42 AM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:02:08 AM
Anti-Islamic plebs aren't exactly going to be happy about are they? Simple solution is to not eat there and take your custom elsewhere. I'm sure there'll be a Subway restaurant within walking distant that doesn't serve Halal anyway.

I don't think that people who are opposed to eating halal meat would ever again dine in any of the Subway restaurants (i.e the ones which serves non-halal items). The reputation is lost.

Depends on their level of Islamaphobia or their hatred of animal cruelty. But most plebs won't really care and will just go along because they're ignorant and don't like Muslims, but they'll still probably go home and hypocritically have a kebab at the end of the day. And I don't see how Subway's reputation would be lost. Subway is a franchise and each business owner is free to serve halal or non-Halal meat just as people are free not to eat at that particular franchise.

Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...


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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 06:22:42 AM
#87
Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 05, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:02:08 AM
Anti-Islamic plebs aren't exactly going to be happy about are they? Simple solution is to not eat there and take your custom elsewhere. I'm sure there'll be a Subway restaurant within walking distant that doesn't serve Halal anyway.

I don't think that people who are opposed to eating halal meat would ever again dine in any of the Subway restaurants (i.e the ones which serves non-halal items). The reputation is lost.

Depends on their level of Islamaphobia or their hatred of animal cruelty. But most plebs won't really care and will just go along because they're ignorant and don't like Muslims, but they'll still probably go home and hypocritically have a kebab at the end of the day. And I don't see how Subway's reputation would be lost. Subway is a franchise and each business owner is free to serve halal or non-Halal meat just as people are free not to eat at that particular franchise.
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
#86
Quote from: hilariousandco on May 05, 2014, 06:02:08 AM
Anti-Islamic plebs aren't exactly going to be happy about are they? Simple solution is to not eat there and take your custom elsewhere. I'm sure there'll be a Subway restaurant within walking distant that doesn't serve Halal anyway.

I don't think that people who are opposed to eating halal meat would ever again dine in any of the Subway restaurants (i.e the ones which serves non-halal items). The reputation is lost.
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 05, 2014, 06:02:08 AM
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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 04, 2014, 11:01:34 PM
Seems like not everyone is happy about it:

East Lancs twitter storm over 'halal' subs

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11188480.East_Lancs_twitter_storm_over____halal____subs

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FAST food giant Subway has come under fire for removing ham and bacon from outlets, and switching to halal meat alternatives at stores across the country, including East Lancashire. This week people have taken to Twitter calling for a boycott of the chain, and protests have been organised for this weekend outside outlets nationwide.

Anti-Islamic plebs aren't exactly going to be happy about are they? Simple solution is to not eat there and take your custom elsewhere. I'm sure there'll be a Subway restaurant within walking distant that doesn't serve Halal anyway.

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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 04, 2014, 11:01:34 PM
#84
Seems like not everyone is happy about it:

East Lancs twitter storm over 'halal' subs

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11188480.East_Lancs_twitter_storm_over____halal____subs

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FAST food giant Subway has come under fire for removing ham and bacon from outlets, and switching to halal meat alternatives at stores across the country, including East Lancashire. This week people have taken to Twitter calling for a boycott of the chain, and protests have been organised for this weekend outside outlets nationwide.
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 04, 2014, 06:46:12 PM
#83
Quote from: Wilikon on May 04, 2014, 10:12:24 AM
Quote from: freedomno1 on May 04, 2014, 04:34:23 AM
For some reason the first time I read the title I thought it was a cooking thread
Read as Islamic law is adopted by British legal chefs
Then thought well I guess they are cooking Halal now and it must be a new trend
Then read the actual post and then a few posts and saw ah suggested lol

LOL. Is Subway a restaurant? Then maybe you would be right  Grin

He-he you know the cooking world always looking for the next big thing
Going retro with halal cooking styles FTW
Also nice note does have the boycott vibe Smiley
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616576/Subway-removes-ham-pork-nearly-200-stores-strong-demand-Muslims-eat-Halal-meat.html
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Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
May 04, 2014, 10:28:23 AM
#82
Quote from: Hazir on May 04, 2014, 10:25:44 AM
Halal meat is only the beginning. There will be more things later.

You know why Japan does not have any problems with Muslims?

It is because:

1. Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims.
2. In Japan permanent residency is not given to Muslims.
3. The Japanese government is of the opinion that Muslims are fundamentalist and even in the era of globalization, they are not willing to change their Muslim laws. (Japan changes its laws for no one, Muslim or otherwise. All must obey Japanese laws)

Maybe these laws are the reason I did not hear of any executions done by muslims on the street of Japan.

There are a lot of Muslims in Japan and Japan every year gives citizenship to thousands of Muslims. Most of them are of Pakistani and Arab origin who receive the citizenship after marrying Japanese women.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Japan

According to the latest stats, there are somewhere around 100,000 and 200,000 Muslims in Japan.
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