It is impossible to proof that somebody is Satoshi. - page 3.

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Quote from: BitcoinInReview on November 28, 2019, 10:18:31 AM

It is impossible to prove that somebody is Satoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

I firmly believe that even if real satoshi turned up one day, people will also declare him Faketoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

This is so true.

Even if Satoshi presents his privatekeys, signs messages, shows his passwords, e-mail account accesses... it could be someone else who has all these privatekeys, passwords, accesses now.
He would only prove the ownership of these but it is impossible for somebody to prove that he is Satoshi.

Satoshi never showed up but he at the same time make sure that nobody else can steal his work and claim to be Satoshi. Many tried to prove themselves as satoshi but failed miserably since there is nothing intrinsic to satoshi that somebody can show and claim the prize. Lets wait and see if something good comes out regarding real Satoshi.

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Quote from: tungaqhd on November 28, 2019, 12:09:00 PM

I think that there are some bitcointalk mods know "real Satoshi Nakamoto". If someone want to prove that he is Satoshi, it can be verified by these mods.

If a second person knew about the real identity of Satoshi then it would have been public by now as you cannot hold a secret like this for a long period of time and the mods nor the admin does not have any idea about the creator.

Quote from: BitcoinInReview on November 28, 2019, 10:18:31 AM

Even if Satoshi presents his privatekeys, signs messages, shows his passwords, e-mail account accesses... it could be someone else who has all these privatekeys, passwords, accesses now.
He would only prove the ownership of these but it is impossible for somebody to prove that he is Satoshi.

It is a real possibility, even if someone proves that he is the having the private key with them, it only shows that they are the current holders and not the real creator.

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Quote from: BitcoinInReview on November 28, 2019, 10:18:31 AM

It is impossible to prove that somebody is Satoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

I firmly believe that even if real satoshi turned up one day, people will also declare him Faketoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

This is so true.

Even if Satoshi presents his privatekeys, signs messages, shows his passwords, e-mail account accesses... it could be someone else who has all these privatekeys, passwords, accesses now.
He would only prove the ownership of these but it is impossible for somebody to prove that he is Satoshi.

I think that there are some bitcointalk mods know "real Satoshi Nakamoto". If someone want to prove that he is Satoshi, it can be verified by these mods.

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If someone has everything to prove he or she is Satoshi then at least he / she will legally be recognized. I think most people will recognize that, everyone doesn't need to verify Satoshi's true identity.

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Quote from: BitcoinInReview on November 28, 2019, 10:18:31 AM

It is impossible to prove that somebody is Satoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

I firmly believe that even if real satoshi turned up one day, people will also declare him Faketoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

This is so true.

Even if Satoshi presents his privatekeys, signs messages, shows his passwords, e-mail account accesses... it could be someone else who has all these privatekeys, passwords, accesses now.
He would only prove the ownership of these but it is impossible for somebody to prove that he is Satoshi.

When all these had happen we can now say everyone is satoshi.

Its really possible because after all there is no way anyone can prove even he himself right now because no one will believe him. A lot of people already claimed he is satoshi but the profile they portrait doesn't really reflect. They weren't as techie as satoshi but the fact that they claimed to be satoshi mean they are not satoshi. Satoshi doesn't have time to convince anyone.

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I think that no one never will find Satoshi, rather this already became myth.

yeah, I doubt he just 'disappeared'....

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That's correct. It's because a lot of people already claimed to be Satoshi that it made us more skeptical about the said issue. People will notice and notice something that won't connect the plot becaude they are not the real Satoshi. But when he finally revealed himself, people won't easily believe him. But it is not impossible. If you're the real creator, you can give enough proofs to prove yourself.

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That's not true mate @OP. Signing a message through the bitcoin address that contains the genesis block is the surest way that anybody can prove the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. In addition to this, i believe some members like Theymos, Sirius and other staff members can help prove this by making sure this individual is able to communicate with them through emails and other media that they used when Satoshi was operating on this forum.

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Quote from: BitcoinInReview on November 28, 2019, 10:18:31 AM

It is impossible to prove that somebody is Satoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

I firmly believe that even if real satoshi turned up one day, people will also declare him Faketoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

This is so true.

Even if Satoshi presents his privatekeys, signs messages, shows his passwords, e-mail account accesses... it could be someone else who has all these privatekeys, passwords, accesses now.
He would only prove the ownership of these but it is impossible for somebody to prove that he is Satoshi.

It would have be possible if he embedded few things in the first blocks that are unique to him, like DNA, finger prints, body marks, eye color and even hidden signatures with information on who owns them . The good thing about embedded data like that is that they can't be changed (immutablity)

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This is not new question.thousands of people’s have thousands of thought.better to avoid finding who is real satoshi. Because he want to be anonymous.

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Quote from: achach on November 28, 2019, 10:36:21 AM

It is quite possible to prove

How?

You've already given the answer yourself! Satoshi has mined the first bitcoin block which we also call as genesis block. If real Satoshi wants to identify himself, he can simply use his key to sign a message! That's it!

Unless and until the key is hacked by a hacker (which is highly unlikely), there's no way to impersonate!

What do you think can be a irrefutable proof other than this?

But few people said that satoshi is not single person. Its group.

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The only one who can prove who the real satoshi is would be the person who knows him personally, seen him working on bitcoin while it is being created. And I doubt if time will come that satoshi wi reveal his identity, there'a no point or purpose disclosing it and it is for his security.

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Quote from: BitcoinInReview on November 28, 2019, 10:57:13 AM

Quote from: achach on November 28, 2019, 10:36:21 AM

It is quite possible to prove

How?

You've already given the answer yourself! Satoshi has mined the first bitcoin block which we also call as genesis block. If real Satoshi wants to identify himself, he can simply use his key to sign a message! That's it!

Unless and until the key is hacked by a hacker (which is highly unlikely), there's no way to impersonate!

What do you think can be a irrefutable proof other than this?

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anything can happen and nothing is impossible, I'm sure someday Satoshi Nakamoto will be revealed, some assume that satoshi nakamoto is a group not an individual, with the increasingly sophisticated technology, Satoshi's identity will one day be revealed.

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Quote from: achach on November 28, 2019, 10:36:21 AM

It is quite possible to prove

How?

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I think that no one never will find Satoshi, rather this already became myth.

Maybe we will find the real Satoshi but we will never know that he is the real Satoshi as nobody can prove it. He can prove that he is the owner of all privatekeys, passwords, accesses but the owner of these can be anyone.

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Quote from: achach on November 28, 2019, 10:36:21 AM

It is quite possible to prove, but it is unlikely that anyone will be able to do it. Grin

It is interesting to know how exactly it will be possible to prove the Satoshi is really that Satoshi we talk about... Or may be he left somewhere someday the fingeprint of the retina-scan data and we would be able to compare?... I am joking))))) I think that even in case it may be someday it would be really hard to prove.... And in my opinion more exactly that such thing will never happen. This person will forever stay as an inventor of something new for our generation, something that noone did before him))))))

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Quote from: Fappanu on November 28, 2019, 10:38:34 AM

What would be our basis to find out if he was the real Satoshi Nakamoto?

Yes, you got it.

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How will you know?
Even the face of satoshi nakamoto is unknown to anyone, and what we believe to be true Satoshi Nakamoto (Dorian Nakamoto) is refuting him as the creator of bitcoin.

What would be our basis to find out if he was the real Satoshi Nakamoto? In case

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It is quite possible to prove, but it is unlikely that anyone will be able to do it. Grin

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It is impossible to prove that somebody is Satoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

I firmly believe that even if real satoshi turned up one day, people will also declare him Faketoshi.

Quote from: kro55 on November 27, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

This is so true.

Even if Satoshi presents his privatekeys, signs messages, shows his passwords, e-mail account accesses... it could be someone else who has all these privatekeys, passwords, accesses now.
He would only prove the ownership of these but it is impossible for somebody to prove that he is Satoshi.

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