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Quote from: Davian144 on October 11, 2023, 08:12:18 AM

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It will be a serious battle because both clubs are very strong right now. But I think that Milan will win not only because they will play at home, but also because Milan have only one defeat this season, and all other matches have been won. Of course you can't analyse this game on these indicators, but I think that Milan are much stronger now.

The match between AC Milan vs Juventus will be a very interesting match to watch, because apart from Milan who will try to win at home, Milan is also very determined to maintain its position at the top of the standings in order to create an early gap with its rivals. But Juventus also should not be underestimated because this season Juventus also did not suffer many defeats so Milan needs to take opponents like Juventus more seriously, because Juventus will also try to take full points at home to Milan in order to be in the title competition this season.

At least I agree about Milan having a chance to win in this match against Juventus, because Milan so far only lost by Inter. But yes, for other matches Milan is very smooth with the three points it managed to get. While about Juventus, even though this season Juventus only plays in Serie A, but the fact is Juventus is still inconsistent to get good results in every match so far this season. Because after all, from 8 matches that have been played, in fact Juventus have 2 draw and 1 defeat. So yes, of course Milan have a chance to win in this match although indeed, of course it will not be easy for Milan to beat Juventus but Milan have a chance to get three points in this match.

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Quote from: klidex on October 11, 2023, 02:49:47 AM

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When the match week arrives, I think there will be one match that everyone will be looking forward to as much as I am, and that is the result of Milan vs Juventus. Milan has started really well this year and there is an important obstacle for them to continue this good start. This obstacle is not an easy one. Milan, which continues to lead the league with 7 wins in 8 matches, will want to win this match and continue its leadership. We can say that it won't be an easy match for both teams, but I think Juventus is the more advantageous team, even if we think that they don't have the advantage. The reason is that Milan will travel to PSG 3 days after this match. We can think that Juventus will focus more on the match because it is not a European Cup match. Considering that Milan has 2 draws in the champions league group, they will have to focus more on the PSG match if they want to get out of the group.

Currently Milan is at the top of the standings in the Italian league with 21 points while Juventus is in third place with 17 points, only 4 points different from Milan and next week Milan will face a difficult match in a short time, of course it be a difficult job for Stefano Pioli because Milan must try hard not to lose points in the match with these two clubs, but I am sure that Stefano Pioli has prepared a mature strategy to face this match, winning the Italian league title and qualifying for the next round in the Champions League is a tough jobs for Milan and The Milan squad must be able to appear impressive in this matches.

Milan have shown how they can improve with the very good results they have achieved this season and from every win that Milan gets it can be said that they really really want to be close to the title this season.
Yes in the future Milan will have 3 quite difficult matches not only in the Italian League but also the UCL match for the Italian League they will face Juventus and Napoli while for the UCL they will face PSG but at the moment PSG is not in good condition.

Stefano Pioli is coach who has lot of experience in European football and he has of course prepared everything including really mature strategy to stay on top and always win in every match.

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There is no problem indeed for Napoli players because most of the players are still the same as before because they also did not overhaul the players on a large scale which made the composition of the players remain the same, it's just that I agree with you when saying the problem in management. It's an undeniable fact that Rudi's quality can't compete with Spalletti's even though the scheme and players are the same but when the touch is different then the results will also be different.

In addition, the internal also heated up a little some time ago even though it has been dampened but the internal problems that occurred in Osimhen must be slightly reduced now so that Napoli has a much better condition in terms of communication.

However, in football the influence of the coach's tactics is very large in determining the performance of a team and it cannot be denied that Rudi Garcia's tactics do not seem to suit the current Napoli players so there is a very big difference in the Napoli team's game when compared to last season. coached by Spalletti.

And it is true that the team's problems with Osimhen also have an impact on this star player, especially with the team's performance becoming increasingly consistent, making speculation that Osimhen no longer feels at home in the Napoli team and wants to leave, I think that's a natural thing.

Actually in terms of tactics, I think this is not too big a difference when Spalletti and Rudi Garcia especially if you look at the formations and schemes carried out, Rudi Garcia actually only tried to adapt Spalletti's strategy last season, it's just that in this case there is a difference where the execution of the strategy carried out due to the shortcomings of Garcia himself.
It is difficult to equalize performance when coaches are different because even though the players and schemes are the same, the execution is clearly different and this makes the results different.

Even for personal problems, this is definitely an obstacle and could become a problem in the future but when they are both serious about wanting something good for the team, it will definitely be muted.

I think this is the right thing to do for Garcia because why change a running system as it is called?

But a lot of people underestimate variance and motivation in football. There are mountain climbers who say that climbing the same mountain for a second time is harder than the first time. Despite having additional experience, the excitement and motivation the first time is so high that it is difficult to reach the same mental heights when climbing up a mountain the second time. I think this is one of the effects kicking in here. Before the season started, the Napoli players knew already that it can hardly be better than last season. That can have a demotivating effect.

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Quote from: Davian144 on October 11, 2023, 08:12:18 AM

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It will be a serious battle because both clubs are very strong right now. But I think that Milan will win not only because they will play at home, but also because Milan have only one defeat this season, and all other matches have been won. Of course you can't analyse this game on these indicators, but I think that Milan are much stronger now.

The match between AC Milan vs Juventus will be a very interesting match to watch, because apart from Milan who will try to win at home, Milan is also very determined to maintain its position at the top of the standings in order to create an early gap with its rivals. But Juventus also should not be underestimated because this season Juventus also did not suffer many defeats so Milan needs to take opponents like Juventus more seriously, because Juventus will also try to take full points at home to Milan in order to be in the title competition this season.

Milan will be relying on the home advantage to hopefully secure a win in the game against Juventus but then they are really going to have a tough time as Juventus will definitely put up a strong resistance to their tactics, Juventus currently don't have a very stable play style but I hope they will be to get a good force against Milan because Milan is currently in their best form.

Milan been at the top of the table at this time is something they will not be willing to give up considering their form now as it's really sound, they have vibrant energy enough with their attack and a sound midfield and playing from home aswell so I'm yet to spot a weakness with Wich Juventus will feast on as an advantage as Juventus has not been the best recently, they are at the forth position on the table as compared to their form last season.

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Do you still remember Olivier Giroud's actions as goalkeeper in the match against Genoa? The reason is that his name was included in the Serie A player of the week in matchweek 8 and it certainly surprised people because this time he played not as a striker but as a goalkeeper. Cheesy

We know very well that when Mike Maignan received a red card, Olivier Giroud decided to become Milan's goalkeeper and he managed to make brilliant saves before the match was over. Olivier Giroud even got a score of 6.5 as goalkeeper in last week's Serie A player of the week. I think Serie A knows how to give appreciation to players who have succeeded in saving their team from unsatisfactory results and still for me it is a pleasant entertainment to see Olivier Giroud as goalkeeper. Grin

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Quote from: topbitcoin on October 11, 2023, 08:35:42 AM

Actually in terms of tactics, I think this is not too big a difference when Spalletti and Rudi Garcia especially if you look at the formations and schemes carried out, Rudi Garcia actually only tried to adapt Spalletti's strategy last season, it's just that in this case there is a difference where the execution of the strategy carried out due to the shortcomings of Garcia himself.

Tactic is only one component and there are many things in a club. Napoli won Scudetto in the last season when they were an underdog but do you think they are still an underdog in this season?

They are not and clubs in Serie A no longer consider Napoli like this. Even if Spaletti is still in their club, Kim Min Jae did not move to Bayern Munich, Napoli will have bigger difficulties in this season. It's hard for them and any champion to defend their trophy.

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It is difficult to equalize performance when coaches are different because even though the players and schemes are the same, the execution is clearly different and this makes the results different.

Rudi Garcia has a bigger task than Spaletti and he is carrying more pressure than Spaletti too. He is a good coach but left Europe a few seasons to work in Saudi Arabia and with this return to Europe, participate in Serie A, he is facing with a big mission. First he must adopt to Serie A a second time and second he must help Napoli to win Scudetto again. In history, Napoli has never won two Scudetto titles in two consecutive seasons. So requiring them to achieve it in this season is somewhat too much.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on October 11, 2023, 02:50:19 AM

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There is no problem indeed for Napoli players because most of the players are still the same as before because they also did not overhaul the players on a large scale which made the composition of the players remain the same, it's just that I agree with you when saying the problem in management. It's an undeniable fact that Rudi's quality can't compete with Spalletti's even though the scheme and players are the same but when the touch is different then the results will also be different.

In addition, the internal also heated up a little some time ago even though it has been dampened but the internal problems that occurred in Osimhen must be slightly reduced now so that Napoli has a much better condition in terms of communication.

However, in football the influence of the coach's tactics is very large in determining the performance of a team and it cannot be denied that Rudi Garcia's tactics do not seem to suit the current Napoli players so there is a very big difference in the Napoli team's game when compared to last season. coached by Spalletti.

And it is true that the team's problems with Osimhen also have an impact on this star player, especially with the team's performance becoming increasingly consistent, making speculation that Osimhen no longer feels at home in the Napoli team and wants to leave, I think that's a natural thing.

Actually in terms of tactics, I think this is not too big a difference when Spalletti and Rudi Garcia especially if you look at the formations and schemes carried out, Rudi Garcia actually only tried to adapt Spalletti's strategy last season, it's just that in this case there is a difference where the execution of the strategy carried out due to the shortcomings of Garcia himself.
It is difficult to equalize performance when coaches are different because even though the players and schemes are the same, the execution is clearly different and this makes the results different.

Even for personal problems, this is definitely an obstacle and could become a problem in the future but when they are both serious about wanting something good for the team, it will definitely be muted.

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Quote from: fzkto on October 11, 2023, 04:00:08 AM

It will be a serious battle because both clubs are very strong right now. But I think that Milan will win not only because they will play at home, but also because Milan have only one defeat this season, and all other matches have been won. Of course you can't analyse this game on these indicators, but I think that Milan are much stronger now.

The match between AC Milan vs Juventus will be a very interesting match to watch, because apart from Milan who will try to win at home, Milan is also very determined to maintain its position at the top of the standings in order to create an early gap with its rivals. But Juventus also should not be underestimated because this season Juventus also did not suffer many defeats so Milan needs to take opponents like Juventus more seriously, because Juventus will also try to take full points at home to Milan in order to be in the title competition this season.

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Quote from: borovichok on October 11, 2023, 06:12:25 AM

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The match will be very interesting, both teams that will meet will target victory to maintain their position. The chances given are almost equal and a draw is very likely in this match. But I am worried about AC Milan, I mean when they face strong and balanced teams they usually struggle and they seem confused about what to do. We saw that in their match against Inter Milan.
I just hope that won't happen to them in this match, because it will be very detrimental to them. If they can't win, then even 1 point is very valuable in a big match like this.

Seria A is difficult and filled with high competition from these elite and average clubs, witnessed it in several games. The big game coming up after international break this weekend, we should prepare ourselves for this game. Stadio Giuseppe Meazza is home-ground for Rossoneri to conquered their opponents. Perhaps Milan manager, Stefano Pioli have arranged good mappings towards Massimiliano Allegri because it's extremely a tough game to decides the winner. AC Milan are ranked first on the table and have also made winning the scudetto their priority this season, this time they won't afford to back out.

It happens because some clubs have even strength so that it can create intense competition between them. That's what we want from a league, which does not only show 1 club that can dominate the league, but several clubs can provide an interesting spectacle. Napoli were superior last season, but this season they don't look like last season. Juventus slipped up a few times last season, but now they're starting to become more consistent. With rivalries like these, it's great entertainment for us and we'll definitely look forward to them every week.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 11, 2023, 04:21:24 AM

The odds for the Milan - Juventus game are like this:

Milan: 2.30 Juventus: 3.20

Maybe the odds would have been a little closer to each other but it is still fair I think. Because Milan have won all of their home games so far and they are in the lead in the standings as well. They only lost to Inter which was a really huge one. But it still didn't affect them much mentally. That has been the only point loss for them so far. They just can't underestimate Juventus on one hand because Juventus are also impressive this season. If we see the usual Milan they should at least be winning by one goal.

In terms of strength, Milan and Juventus have a slight difference, Milan has better statistics this season than Juventus. Both have experienced defeat once, Milan have never played a draw while Juventus have drawn twice. That is why the chances of the two clubs not creating a big difference even though Milan is acting as host, I predict this match will end in a draw. Because if you look closely, Milan is in trouble because they are being hit by a storm of injuries hitting the squad, while from Juventus Vlahovic and Chiesa are still in doubt about being able to appear.

The match will take place after the international break and of course injured players could potentially be available again, so it will make this derby match very interesting. On the other hand, Milan will have a difficult week after the international break, after facing Juventus, PSG and Napoli will be their next opponents. I think if Milan manages to get through these three matches without losing, they deserve to be strong contenders for the Scudetto alongside Inter.

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Quote from: red4slash on October 11, 2023, 05:35:57 AM

The match will be very interesting, both teams that will meet will target victory to maintain their position. The chances given are almost equal and a draw is very likely in this match. But I am worried about AC Milan, I mean when they face strong and balanced teams they usually struggle and they seem confused about what to do. We saw that in their match against Inter Milan.
I just hope that won't happen to them in this match, because it will be very detrimental to them. If they can't win, then even 1 point is very valuable in a big match like this.

Seria A is difficult and filled with high competition from these elite and average clubs, witnessed it in several games. The big game coming up after international break this weekend, we should prepare ourselves for this game. Stadio Giuseppe Meazza is home-ground for Rossoneri to conquered their opponents. Perhaps Milan manager, Stefano Pioli have arranged good mappings towards Massimiliano Allegri because it's extremely a tough game to decides the winner. AC Milan are ranked first on the table and have also made winning the scudetto their priority this season, this time they won't afford to back out.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 11, 2023, 04:21:24 AM

The odds for the Milan - Juventus game are like this:

Milan: 2.30 Juventus: 3.20

Maybe the odds would have been a little closer to each other but it is still fair I think. Because Milan have won all of their home games so far and they are in the lead in the standings as well. They only lost to Inter which was a really huge one. But it still didn't affect them much mentally. That has been the only point loss for them so far. They just can't underestimate Juventus on one hand because Juventus are also impressive this season. If we see the usual Milan they should at least be winning by one goal.

The match will be very interesting, both teams that will meet will target victory to maintain their position. The chances given are almost equal and a draw is very likely in this match. But I am worried about AC Milan, I mean when they face strong and balanced teams they usually struggle and they seem confused about what to do. We saw that in their match against Inter Milan.
I just hope that won't happen to them in this match, because it will be very detrimental to them. If they can't win, then even 1 point is very valuable in a big match like this.

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The odds for the Milan - Juventus game are like this:

Milan: 2.30 Juventus: 3.20

Maybe the odds would have been a little closer to each other but it is still fair I think. Because Milan have won all of their home games so far and they are in the lead in the standings as well. They only lost to Inter which was a really huge one. But it still didn't affect them much mentally. That has been the only point loss for them so far. They just can't underestimate Juventus on one hand because Juventus are also impressive this season. If we see the usual Milan they should at least be winning by one goal.

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Quote from: babo on October 10, 2023, 06:31:26 AM

This year's Napoli is a different Napoli compared to last year's
unfortunately there are many factors that have broken the magic, many have realized it
I'm also seeing that there isn't much chemistry between the team and the coach and this is not a good thing at all for the team's performance

The changes that occurred at Napoli were caused by a change of coach, resulting in their strength and style of play changing to the same as when coached by Spalletti. Rudi Garcia did not start with the approach taken by Spalletti and his strategy was not varied when implementing it and did not have creativity in combining players so that when he lost he was unable to replace the right player. It was proven that when Osimhen failed to take a penalty kick he was very angry and replaced him, even though many world class players failed to take a penalty kick but the coach did not immediately come to the conclusion to replace him.

This season will be much more difficult for Napoli and they don't even look like the defending champions in Serie-A. It is very likely that if Rudi Garcia does not produce positive results in the next few matches, there is a possibility that he will be fired sooner than waiting for half the league season to take place.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on October 11, 2023, 02:01:13 AM

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When the match week arrives, I think there will be one match that everyone will be looking forward to as much as I am, and that is the result of Milan vs Juventus. Milan has started really well this year and there is an important obstacle for them to continue this good start. This obstacle is not an easy one. Milan, which continues to lead the league with 7 wins in 8 matches, will want to win this match and continue its leadership. We can say that it won't be an easy match for both teams, but I think Juventus is the more advantageous team, even if we think that they don't have the advantage. The reason is that Milan will travel to PSG 3 days after this match. We can think that Juventus will focus more on the match because it is not a European Cup match. Considering that Milan has 2 draws in the champions league group, they will have to focus more on the PSG match if they want to get out of the group.

The AC Milan vs Juventus match will indeed be the match most people are looking forward to in Serie A. But who will be the favorite in this match is actually quite difficult to predict. AC Milan actually has home advantage. Because the match will be held at the San Siro Stadium. However, as you said, currently Juventus' match schedule is not too busy so Juventus should be able to focus more on winning the match against AC Milan.
A draw like this could happen in this match. Remembering that in the last 5 meetings these two teams had 2 draws. It is possible that this match will be the third draw in the last 6 meetings.

But maybe I'll have some fun by betting on La Vecchia Signora Wink

It will be a serious battle because both clubs are very strong right now. But I think that Milan will win not only because they will play at home, but also because Milan have only one defeat this season, and all other matches have been won. Of course you can't analyse this game on these indicators, but I think that Milan are much stronger now.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on October 11, 2023, 02:50:19 AM

However, in football the influence of the coach's tactics is very large in determining the performance of a team and it cannot be denied that Rudi Garcia's tactics do not seem to suit the current Napoli players so there is a very big difference in the Napoli team's game when compared to last season. coached by Spalletti.

And it is true that the team's problems with Osimhen also have an impact on this star player, especially with the team's performance becoming increasingly consistent, making speculation that Osimhen no longer feels at home in the Napoli team and wants to leave, I think that's a natural thing.

Well at this point it's either Rudi Garcia changes his gameplay to suit the standard of players he's got and get them to start performing their best again or just resign to save himself the embarrassement of getting fired by the board, because his tactics and gameplay is no where compared to that of Luciano Spalletti's and sooner or later the board would start thinking of a replacement for his managerial position.

Well I don't blame Osimhen for any actions he's taking cause he was one of the reasons they won the league trophy last season but they still ridicled him on social media when he missed a penalty this season, how I understand Osimhen and Rudi Garcia had fallen out severally this season, all this ongoings could make a player take his mind off the team and want to go continue his career in a place where he's more welcomed.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on October 11, 2023, 02:01:13 AM

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The AC Milan vs Juventus match will indeed be the match most people are looking forward to in Serie A. But who will be the favorite in this match is actually quite difficult to predict. AC Milan actually has home advantage. Because the match will be held at the San Siro Stadium. However, as you said, currently Juventus' match schedule is not too busy so Juventus should be able to focus more on winning the match against AC Milan.
A draw like this could happen in this match. Remembering that in the last 5 meetings these two teams had 2 draws. It is possible that this match will be the third draw in the last 6 meetings.

I think this is a big challenge for Milan and Juventus. I'm also not sure who should be the favorite in this big match, but Milan, who is playing at home, seems to have a home advantage that can be exploited. Milan will certainly struggle to maintain first position after Inter slipped due to the draw against Bologna, but I'm sure Milan's job will not be easy because Juventus has actually been better in form this season.

Milan has a bigger chance of winning the match, but there are doubts that Juventus can also get points in the away match. Both teams have the potential to win the match, but what is clear is that it will be very difficult for us to guess who will win it. I hope Milan can win it with hard work, but a draw seems impossible to ignore.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on October 11, 2023, 12:52:58 AM

There is no problem indeed for Napoli players because most of the players are still the same as before because they also did not overhaul the players on a large scale which made the composition of the players remain the same, it's just that I agree with you when saying the problem in management. It's an undeniable fact that Rudi's quality can't compete with Spalletti's even though the scheme and players are the same but when the touch is different then the results will also be different.

In addition, the internal also heated up a little some time ago even though it has been dampened but the internal problems that occurred in Osimhen must be slightly reduced now so that Napoli has a much better condition in terms of communication.

However, in football the influence of the coach's tactics is very large in determining the performance of a team and it cannot be denied that Rudi Garcia's tactics do not seem to suit the current Napoli players so there is a very big difference in the Napoli team's game when compared to last season. coached by Spalletti.

And it is true that the team's problems with Osimhen also have an impact on this star player, especially with the team's performance becoming increasingly consistent, making speculation that Osimhen no longer feels at home in the Napoli team and wants to leave, I think that's a natural thing.

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Quote from: Jossque on October 10, 2023, 01:58:40 PM

When the match week arrives, I think there will be one match that everyone will be looking forward to as much as I am, and that is the result of Milan vs Juventus. Milan has started really well this year and there is an important obstacle for them to continue this good start. This obstacle is not an easy one. Milan, which continues to lead the league with 7 wins in 8 matches, will want to win this match and continue its leadership. We can say that it won't be an easy match for both teams, but I think Juventus is the more advantageous team, even if we think that they don't have the advantage. The reason is that Milan will travel to PSG 3 days after this match. We can think that Juventus will focus more on the match because it is not a European Cup match. Considering that Milan has 2 draws in the champions league group, they will have to focus more on the PSG match if they want to get out of the group.

Currently Milan is at the top of the standings in the Italian league with 21 points while Juventus is in third place with 17 points, only 4 points different from Milan and next week Milan will face a difficult match in a short time, of course it be a difficult job for Stefano Pioli because Milan must try hard not to lose points in the match with these two clubs, but I am sure that Stefano Pioli has prepared a mature strategy to face this match, winning the Italian league title and qualifying for the next round in the Champions League is a tough jobs for Milan and The Milan squad must be able to appear impressive in this matches.

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Quote from: Jossque on October 10, 2023, 01:58:40 PM

When the match week arrives, I think there will be one match that everyone will be looking forward to as much as I am, and that is the result of Milan vs Juventus. Milan has started really well this year and there is an important obstacle for them to continue this good start. This obstacle is not an easy one. Milan, which continues to lead the league with 7 wins in 8 matches, will want to win this match and continue its leadership. We can say that it won't be an easy match for both teams, but I think Juventus is the more advantageous team, even if we think that they don't have the advantage. The reason is that Milan will travel to PSG 3 days after this match. We can think that Juventus will focus more on the match because it is not a European Cup match. Considering that Milan has 2 draws in the champions league group, they will have to focus more on the PSG match if they want to get out of the group.

The AC Milan vs Juventus match will indeed be the match most people are looking forward to in Serie A. But who will be the favorite in this match is actually quite difficult to predict. AC Milan actually has home advantage. Because the match will be held at the San Siro Stadium. However, as you said, currently Juventus' match schedule is not too busy so Juventus should be able to focus more on winning the match against AC Milan.
A draw like this could happen in this match. Remembering that in the last 5 meetings these two teams had 2 draws. It is possible that this match will be the third draw in the last 6 meetings.

But maybe I'll have some fun by betting on La Vecchia Signora Wink

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