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Roma should beat opponents like Verona without the hope of a red card for the opponent. They controlled the game really well, but on this day Verona's strategy worked better, they defended and used two opportunities in counterattacks. Roma tried to attack, but after Verona scored the second goal, they completely focused on defense and it worked for them. Roma didn't deserve to lose this match, but it happens too.

I also didn't think that AS Roma would lose at home to Verona before the match started, but what happened was a very painful thing for AS Roma because they had to narrowly lose to Verona because of VAR in the 42nd minute. However, it must be admitted that the strategy used by Verona in that match really worked very well because Verona was able to create a good defense as well as make counterattacks when they had the opportunity.

It was not at all expected in this match that AS Roma felt. Verona played an effective game in this match, they were strong defensively and they could also capitalize on the chances they got into a goal, that was the key to their victory in this match. Dominating the match is not enough to make AS Roma win and that was proven in this match.
It seems they are very difficult to be able to break into the goal from Verona, even they have to miss 2 times in the first half. Although they can create 1 goal, but it is not enough to make them able to win points.

But there are games like these and Roma was overwhelming Verona most of the time during that game. Sometimes a team can't manage to score and I am sure Mourinho was literally imploding because of anger.

Just have a look at the Sheffield vs. Manchester City game. Only now could Manchester City manage to take the lead and Sheffield didn't even have a single shot so far. It's unlucky when it goes like this, but I would not say that Roma didn't play well. The result was bad obviously, but it is still a performance they can be ok with.

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Roma should beat opponents like Verona without the hope of a red card for the opponent. They controlled the game really well, but on this day Verona's strategy worked better, they defended and used two opportunities in counterattacks. Roma tried to attack, but after Verona scored the second goal, they completely focused on defense and it worked for them. Roma didn't deserve to lose this match, but it happens too.

I also didn't think that AS Roma would lose at home to Verona before the match started, but what happened was a very painful thing for AS Roma because they had to narrowly lose to Verona because of VAR in the 42nd minute. However, it must be admitted that the strategy used by Verona in that match really worked very well because Verona was able to create a good defense as well as make counterattacks when they had the opportunity.

It was not at all expected in this match that AS Roma felt. Verona played an effective game in this match, they were strong defensively and they could also capitalize on the chances they got into a goal, that was the key to their victory in this match. Dominating the match is not enough to make AS Roma win and that was proven in this match.
It seems they are very difficult to be able to break into the goal from Verona, even they have to miss 2 times in the first half. Although they can create 1 goal, but it is not enough to make them able to win points.

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the final result in this match was won by Ac milan with a score of 4-1. Giroud closed Ac milan victory by scoring a goal from the penalty spot. This victory also led AC Milan to the top of the standings due to superior goal productivity. In tomorrow match we will see many big matches that take place, including Juventus vs Bologna and Napoli vs Sassoulo.

Roma were quite unlucky in today's game. Because they were able to control the game but had to lose to Verona. One form of deficiency experienced by Roma is their front line because they are not strengthened by their core players due to injuries they have experienced. Bellotti is not in his best form and I think Roma have to look for a quality sticker in this transfer window.

The movement of the AC Milan transfer market produced good results, Cristian Pulisic and Ruben Luftus Cheek provided an increase in performance for AC Milan as a whole. Olivier Giroud was very calm when executing the penalty, and Stefano Pioli managed to change his characteristics and tactics with the adaptation of new players. Reportedly AC Milan still wants to find a coating for Giroud to anticipate various possibilities.

For AS Roma, this was a bad start to the season, after drawing in the first match, now losing against Verona. I think Mourinho needs to add a few players in the midfield and attack line, but the club's finances cannot fulfill his ambitions.

Great improvement from AC Milan after being successful with 2x wins this season and yesterday being able to score goals thanks to very good performances from Giroud and also cristian Pulisic who ended with 4 scores which AC milan managed to secure.
In this season it looks like AC Milan will be very strong after having considerable confidence and ambition to win title in serie A to compete with Napoli even though is a bit difficult, but AC milan is trying to consistently get points that will give Napoli distance.
For AS Roma I am not sure can get new player because of finances that put pressure on Jose mourinho to have trouble getting new player who have good talent.
This will indeed be Jose Mourinho responsibility even harder to create or restore AS Roma performance to be better like last season.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 27, 2023, 07:23:33 AM

There is nothing surprising other than Roma's defeat in last night's game and this is a pretty bad result after last week they only drew. It seems that Mourinho's troops are still the same as last season when they faced a team they should have won but instead suffered a defeat.

Verona even took the lead with two goals in the first half and you can see how the Roma players were very confused about the host's attacks. Had caught up in the second half but not enough to equalize and the score lasted 2-1 until the game was over. I think Rome will still be on the bad track of defeat if they can't change all of this, especially next week they have to face Milan who are now starting to show their consistency.

I must be honest if roma played like shit yesterday. I would like to give 3/10 rating for the performance of as roma. This club was always able giving pressure to the opponent but the result would be the opposite thing compared with the stat.
Roma has been on its worst performance. I can't even describe how shitty as roma is right now. Im tired of this club. I shall never ever pick this club again. Enough is enough. Angry

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Quote from: Altryist on August 27, 2023, 08:30:50 AM

Roma should beat opponents like Verona without the hope of a red card for the opponent. They controlled the game really well, but on this day Verona's strategy worked better, they defended and used two opportunities in counterattacks. Roma tried to attack, but after Verona scored the second goal, they completely focused on defense and it worked for them. Roma didn't deserve to lose this match, but it happens too.

I also didn't think that AS Roma would lose at home to Verona before the match started, but what happened was a very painful thing for AS Roma because they had to narrowly lose to Verona because of VAR in the 42nd minute. However, it must be admitted that the strategy used by Verona in that match really worked very well because Verona was able to create a good defense as well as make counterattacks when they had the opportunity.

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Quote from: rozak on August 27, 2023, 06:53:03 AM

the Roma vs Verona match showed that the focus of the Roma players had decreased a lot. especially at the start of the game they weren't too well prepared and got caught by surprise with a quick goal. so did Verona's second goal which was in added time in the first half.
Verona doesn't do much except defend. very few chances but they made 2 goals. inversely proportional to Roma who controlled the game with lots of shots but they were only able to score 1 goal.
if Verona had picked up an early red card involving their centre-back maybe things would have been different.

Roma should beat opponents like Verona without the hope of a red card for the opponent. They controlled the game really well, but on this day Verona's strategy worked better, they defended and used two opportunities in counterattacks. Roma tried to attack, but after Verona scored the second goal, they completely focused on defense and it worked for them. Roma didn't deserve to lose this match, but it happens too.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 27, 2023, 07:23:33 AM

There is nothing surprising other than Roma's defeat in last night's game and this is a pretty bad result after last week they only drew. It seems that Mourinho's troops are still the same as last season when they faced a team they should have won but instead suffered a defeat.

Verona even took the lead with two goals in the first half and you can see how the Roma players were very confused about the host's attacks. Had caught up in the second half but not enough to equalize and the score lasted 2-1 until the game was over. I think Rome will still be on the bad track of defeat if they can't change all of this, especially next week they have to face Milan who are now starting to show their consistency.

There are many people who have lost a lot of betting money because of the Rome vs Verona match.
Verona at the start of the 2023/24 season showed how good their performance was, which last season was underestimated as a bottom club in Serie A.
It was a very exciting match to watch and Mourinho looked a little awkward and didn't believe in the match, I laughed at Mourinho's expression at the goal when Patricio conceded two goals.
But this is only the start of the 2023/24 season and there is still a long way to go so it is likely that Roma will have better strength in the future.

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Quote from: rozak on August 27, 2023, 06:53:03 AM

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I think that this week's matches will be more predictable. But Rome's defeat by Verona may indeed be an exception. And of course we all must be surprised by Rome's defeat by Verona. But actually the defeat started from the negligence of the Roma players in the early minutes of the match. It seems that the Roma squad was too confident in the early minutes of the game so they underestimated Verona a little. And it turned out that Verona surprisingly scored a goal in the 4th minute. And I think all Verona supporters at the Marcantonio Bentegodi Stadium were really happy with that result. Well because it was a win for the hosts that we really didn't expect at all.

And actually Roma also had many chances to score. But Verona's defense managed to maintain their advantage until the game ended. And I can say that Roma also played well in this game. It's just that they are weak in attack. And Rome's back line was completely off guard in the early minutes and in the final minutes of the first half. Verona actually didn't play well enough. Even their operands have a very bad level of accuracy. They often make mistakes. But they were able to take advantage of the opportunities they got to score goals.

the Roma vs Verona match showed that the focus of the Roma players had decreased a lot. especially at the start of the game they weren't too well prepared and got caught by surprise with a quick goal. so did Verona's second goal which was in added time in the first half.
Verona doesn't do much except defend. very few chances but they made 2 goals. inversely proportional to Roma who controlled the game with lots of shots but they were only able to score 1 goal.
if Verona had picked up an early red card involving their centre-back maybe things would have been different.

So true. Verona had few chances but they made the most of them. Meanwhile, Roma had 23 shots and 7 shots on target but only 1 was a goal. I think the effectiveness of Rome's attack must be improved in this regard. But I believe in an experienced coach like José Mourinho. He will definitely fix the problems in his squad soon. Because the defeat by Verona must have embarrassed him a little. And he must immediately improve the team to restore his pride as a coach. Because the new season started. So there are still many opportunities for Rome to make better results in the following matches.

But in week 3 it looks like Rome will find it difficult to get a win. Because in Week 3, Rome has to face AC Milan, which is one of the best clubs in Serie A.

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Quote from: Bobrox on August 26, 2023, 10:35:07 PM

Other match, Milan still in the positive trend after winning against Torino, most impressive performance from Cristian Pulisic and Oliver Giroud unstoppable for scoring goals, Pulisic scored one goals and Giroud have contributed with two goals scoring although through penalty kick.

So far so good for Milan for now. This is another victory for them by a really satisfying score like 4-1. Giroud is still like a goal machine despite being 36 years old. This was his third goal in his second league game this season. Many people including me were doubtful about his performance this season but he is even better for now.

Being a world class player has also big benefits. Even when you are old you mostly keep your shape solid and continue to score many goals. This isn't valid for every such player now maybe but it is for most of them. Okafor was signed but he isn't in the starting lineup yet.

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There is nothing surprising other than Roma's defeat in last night's game and this is a pretty bad result after last week they only drew. It seems that Mourinho's troops are still the same as last season when they faced a team they should have won but instead suffered a defeat.

Verona even took the lead with two goals in the first half and you can see how the Roma players were very confused about the host's attacks. Had caught up in the second half but not enough to equalize and the score lasted 2-1 until the game was over. I think Rome will still be on the bad track of defeat if they can't change all of this, especially next week they have to face Milan who are now starting to show their consistency.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on August 27, 2023, 06:47:14 AM

I think that this week's matches will be more predictable. But Rome's defeat by Verona may indeed be an exception. And of course we all must be surprised by Rome's defeat by Verona. But actually the defeat started from the negligence of the Roma players in the early minutes of the match. It seems that the Roma squad was too confident in the early minutes of the game so they underestimated Verona a little. And it turned out that Verona surprisingly scored a goal in the 4th minute. And I think all Verona supporters at the Marcantonio Bentegodi Stadium were really happy with that result. Well because it was a win for the hosts that we really didn't expect at all.

And actually Roma also had many chances to score. But Verona's defense managed to maintain their advantage until the game ended. And I can say that Roma also played well in this game. It's just that they are weak in attack. And Rome's back line was completely off guard in the early minutes and in the final minutes of the first half. Verona actually didn't play well enough. Even their operands have a very bad level of accuracy. They often make mistakes. But they were able to take advantage of the opportunities they got to score goals.

the Roma vs Verona match showed that the focus of the Roma players had decreased a lot. especially at the start of the game they weren't too well prepared and got caught by surprise with a quick goal. so did Verona's second goal which was in added time in the first half.
Verona doesn't do much except defend. very few chances but they made 2 goals. inversely proportional to Roma who controlled the game with lots of shots but they were only able to score 1 goal.
if Verona had picked up an early red card involving their centre-back maybe things would have been different.

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I think that this week's matches will be more predictable. But Rome's defeat by Verona may indeed be an exception. And of course we all must be surprised by Rome's defeat by Verona. But actually the defeat started from the negligence of the Roma players in the early minutes of the match. It seems that the Roma squad was too confident in the early minutes of the game so they underestimated Verona a little. And it turned out that Verona surprisingly scored a goal in the 4th minute. And I think all Verona supporters at the Marcantonio Bentegodi Stadium were really happy with that result. Well because it was a win for the hosts that we really didn't expect at all.

And actually Roma also had many chances to score. But Verona's defense managed to maintain their advantage until the game ended. And I can say that Roma also played well in this game. It's just that they are weak in attack. And Rome's back line was completely off guard in the early minutes and in the final minutes of the first half. Verona actually didn't play well enough. Even their operands have a very bad level of accuracy. They often make mistakes. But they were able to take advantage of the opportunities they got to score goals.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 27, 2023, 05:50:27 AM

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There are managers that can't be sacked just because they had few bad results and Jose Mourinho is one of those managers. His Roma side hasn't delivered the kind of performance that the fans of the club had hoped for this season but I think there's time for them to bounce back and be the best they can be.
Tammy Abraham is currently injured and there's report that Jose Mourinho wants the club management to sign Romelu Lukaku to the club which I think is good idea because the Belgium striker has the needed Italian league experience to deliver a good performance for the Roma side if signed

Every elite club loses, but AS Roma's failure so early in Seria A will jeopardize their expectations of winning the Scudetto this season. José Mourinho cannot be fired because of the club's current state; they are becoming worse, but there is always a second chance for them to make improvements. Furthermore, it is a new season, and we cannot conclude AS Roma's play after two games; I am confident that they will return to winning ways; what the club requires at the moment is patience and time from their supporters. Perhaps there key players are injured, but it's not enough excuse to determined there defeats.

Looking at their current condition and the statistics in the last few seasons I actually don't expect anything for the Scudetto for Roma because in the end they will only compete at the bottom, it is possible if they do compete in the top 4 or top 6 but for the Scudetto it is still too far for them.
On the other hand 2 weeks, 1 draw and 1 loss is obviously very disturbing in my opinion and with this it is clear they have problems especially losing to Verona with possession which is actually very good but they still can't make a real turnaround.
Their defense is not very good and this must be fixed, on the other hand the goal scoring instinct of the Roma attackers also still needs improvement.

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AC Milan attacked brilliantly against Torino and they won 4-1. Most people believed that Milan would win this match by a landslide, and they really ensured that victory as their players performed extremely well. Olivier Giroud managed to score brilliantly in the match. He scored two goals and both were spectacular. His last goal was great to see them top the table on points with a big win. Milan is a strong enough team this season as they have a good squad formation which has allowed them to match their opponents in every match. If Milan can perform well in every match to achieve their goals this season, they will have a chance to win the title. However Milan gave their fans this great win in the last match and they are at the top of the points table which is really great.

I also liked Milan's performance, I thought they would play very well and win this match. It was what I expected and they had no difficulty in the match. We can say that they played like one of the best teams of this year.
I am very curious how they will play against Rome, the next match will be very enjoyable and exciting. Serie A seems to be going very well this year

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Quote from: borovichok on August 27, 2023, 05:50:27 AM

Quote from: Docnaster on August 27, 2023, 04:49:03 AM

There are managers that can't be sacked just because they had few bad results and Jose Mourinho is one of those managers. His Roma side hasn't delivered the kind of performance that the fans of the club had hoped for this season but I think there's time for them to bounce back and be the best they can be.
Tammy Abraham is currently injured and there's report that Jose Mourinho wants the club management to sign Romelu Lukaku to the club which I think is good idea because the Belgium striker has the needed Italian league experience to deliver a good performance for the Roma side if signed

Every elite club loses, but AS Roma's failure so early in Seria A will jeopardize their expectations of winning the Scudetto this season. José Mourinho cannot be fired because of the club's current state; they are becoming worse, but there is always a second chance for them to make improvements. Furthermore, it is a new season, and we cannot conclude AS Roma's play after two games; I am confident that they will return to winning ways; what the club requires at the moment is patience and time from their supporters. Perhaps there key players are injured, but it's not enough excuse to determined there defeats.

It's too early to make a longer prediction, but Roma had a big problem, collecting only 1 point in 2 games. Verona made an important start to the league with 2 wins in 2 matches. Rome, on the other hand, started to investigate where they were missing with this defeat. Winning the Scudetto is every Italian team's dream. For Roma, every match is of great importance on this great dream road. They should play better for the cup.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 27, 2023, 04:49:03 AM

There are managers that can't be sacked just because they had few bad results and Jose Mourinho is one of those managers. His Roma side hasn't delivered the kind of performance that the fans of the club had hoped for this season but I think there's time for them to bounce back and be the best they can be.
Tammy Abraham is currently injured and there's report that Jose Mourinho wants the club management to sign Romelu Lukaku to the club which I think is good idea because the Belgium striker has the needed Italian league experience to deliver a good performance for the Roma side if signed

Every elite club loses, but AS Roma's failure so early in Seria A will jeopardize their expectations of winning the Scudetto this season. José Mourinho cannot be fired because of the club's current state; they are becoming worse, but there is always a second chance for them to make improvements. Furthermore, it is a new season, and we cannot conclude AS Roma's play after two games; I am confident that they will return to winning ways; what the club requires at the moment is patience and time from their supporters. Perhaps there key players are injured, but it's not enough excuse to determined there defeats.

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Quote from: swogerino on August 27, 2023, 04:39:28 AM

Why is Mourinho still not sacked is a legit question the fans of Roma are asking each other.They have start this season from bad to worse after drawing at home against a weak Salernitana now they go and they lose against Verona which is another weak team of the Serie A.Such start is of course unacceptable for a team like Roma as many of the fans ask what will Roma do when they will play against strong teams,it is clear that relying on Belotti in attack is not enough despite him being a great attacker.There are still a couple of days left for some needed transfer to the team although the players that remain free now are not the top ones.

There are managers that can't be sacked just because they had few bad results and Jose Mourinho is one of those managers. His Roma side hasn't delivered the kind of performance that the fans of the club had hoped for this season but I think there's time for them to bounce back and be the best they can be.
Tammy Abraham is currently injured and there's report that Jose Mourinho wants the club management to sign Romelu Lukaku to the club which I think is good idea because the Belgium striker has the needed Italian league experience to deliver a good performance for the Roma side if signed

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Why is Mourinho still not sacked is a legit question the fans of Roma are asking each other.They have start this season from bad to worse after drawing at home against a weak Salernitana now they go and they lose against Verona which is another weak team of the Serie A.Such start is of course unacceptable for a team like Roma as many of the fans ask what will Roma do when they will play against strong teams,it is clear that relying on Belotti in attack is not enough despite him being a great attacker.There are still a couple of days left for some needed transfer to the team although the players that remain free now are not the top ones.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on August 27, 2023, 04:15:26 AM

What I see here is that Mourinho is too comfortable where he is, if not, it shouldn't have been this bad. He should have learned from the past mistakes in which Roma would always find themselves at the lower level of the table before they started improving. But this must have been too late to finish in a reasonable position. The first match with Salernitana could still be forgiven, but playing with another lesser club like Verona and the club beating Roma is out of it. He should try to make the necessary adjustments before the transfer window closes this season. I don't seem to see how their present squad can do anything meaningful this season.

All the stages seem porous or weak, the front, middle and back. Also, Remolu Lukaku is a very good one expected to be with the club soon, I am sure that his presence will at least make a difference.

I don't see Romelu Lukaku as a player that can come into a team and single handedly make a difference to the squad, he's good no doubt but if other areas of the squad looks weak then Lukaku presence arrival might not be enough to make a difference in their team, i feel they need to focus more on strengthing their defence line more than any other areas of the squad.
Well against Verona i think they would've stand a good chance of getting an equaliser if Verona got a Red card earlier but it was in the 84th minute of the game and almosr too late for them to get a draw, their next match is against a stronger side Acmilan and might likely lose again which would make them go down in the table, Mourinho is one coach i kmow that doesn't settle for less so i believe his working on turning things around before it gets out of hand.

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and now Roma is losing 2-0 after the 1st half.

What is happening, if they will end losing it will be a dramatic start for As Roma.

Roma have bad defense in this season as they got 4 conceded goals so far and are very bad to fight against counter attacking of opponents. Chris Smalling again was beaten by attacking players easily with face to face situation.

With the late conceded goal in a first half extra time, AS Roma will have a very difficult second half and they nearly have no hope to get three points from Verona. Belotti did have some try in this first half but it seems he will not be able to beat Verona defenders. Roma need to change their attacking methods in the second half and I am not sure why Spinazzola did not start in this match.

I was not expecting at all to see this weak performance from Roma against Verona, I'm sure Murinilo is not under pressure because of this result he got because Roma's performance in the last games against Verona and Salernitana was not good at all they got only one point so far.
The other bad news for Roma is about their player Dybala, he left the game at the end of the first half and there was no information about his situation for the next games yet.

What I see here is that Mourinho is too comfortable where he is, if not, it shouldn't have been this bad. He should have learned from the past mistakes in which Roma would always find themselves at the lower level of the table before they started improving. But this must have been too late to finish in a reasonable position. The first match with Salernitana could still be forgiven, but playing with another lesser club like Verona and the club beating Roma is out of it. He should try to make the necessary adjustments before the transfer window closes this season. I don't seem to see how their present squad can do anything meaningful this season.

All the stages seem porous or weak, the front, middle and back. Also, Remolu Lukaku is a very good one expected to be with the club soon, I am sure that his presence will at least make a difference.

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