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Quote from: indah rezqi on August 11, 2023, 11:07:37 AM

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Regarding Mbappe transfer to Madrid, it is reported that the player has said to stay at PSG until his contract expires next season. On Harry Kane Italian transfer expert Fabrizio Romano says that an agreement has been reached between Bayern Munich and Tottenham.

mbappe is holding the transfer information desk a lot this summer, it looks like a soap opera
in any case I think it's all postponed in a year, so I don't understand why go to all this trouble now

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Quote from: slapper on August 11, 2023, 10:21:24 AM

Hasn't Vlahovic's performance under Allegri been quite underwhelming? I, too, had placed some optimism in Chelsea expressing an interest, particularly in light of the possibility that he may have made an intriguing match with Broja and Nicholas Jackson. He would have complemented their style, after all! The fact that Pochettino chose not to pursue Vlahovic, though, puts a wrench in the works shows that managers have their own ways.

Real Madrid would definitely be something. Im not sure, though, given the presence of Joselu and the anticipated arrival of Mbappe. Here's a crazy idea: What if Tottenham acquired him? especially in light of Kane's current air of uncertainty. But then again, if Bayern could secure Vlahovic, why would they pursue Kane? The transfer market is incredibly unreliable. Personally, I think Daniel Levy might be passing on some excellent opportunities here.

As you say, Pochettino has his own views on what players he wants in the squad. At present Chelsea has abandoned its intention to get Dusan Vlahovic from Juventus, because Juve want an exchange between Lukaku and Valhovic, but Chelsea must add a fee of around 40 million Euros in this exchange. Both of Vlahovic inconsistent goalscoring form (14 goals in all competitions) last season meant Pochettino lack of interest makes a lot of sense I think.

Regarding Mbappe transfer to Madrid, it is reported that the player has said to stay at PSG until his contract expires next season. On Harry Kane Italian transfer expert Fabrizio Romano says that an agreement has been reached between Bayern Munich and Tottenham.

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After hearing that Chelsea aren't interested in Vlahovic deal now I'm curious about what his future will be this summer. Because so far he hasn't been doing well with Allegri's system. The number of goals he scores has dropped down a lot. He just can't get enough chances in this system now.

Honestly I think he should still leave for another top team whose system would fit his playing style more. I would love to watch him at Real Madrid for example. Because Real Madrid are also in search of a striker and Mbappe is likely to join them only by next summer as it seems.

Hasn't Vlahovic's performance under Allegri been quite underwhelming? I, too, had placed some optimism in Chelsea expressing an interest, particularly in light of the possibility that he may have made an intriguing match with Broja and Nicholas Jackson. He would have complemented their style, after all! The fact that Pochettino chose not to pursue Vlahovic, though, puts a wrench in the works shows that managers have their own ways.

Real Madrid would definitely be something. Im not sure, though, given the presence of Joselu and the anticipated arrival of Mbappe. Here's a crazy idea: What if Tottenham acquired him? especially in light of Kane's current air of uncertainty. But then again, if Bayern could secure Vlahovic, why would they pursue Kane? The transfer market is incredibly unreliable. Personally, I think Daniel Levy might be passing on some excellent opportunities here.

@slapper I think you are really right here because the game for Vlahovic at Juventus Turin was quite focused on him. He was the striker that Juventus wanted to score the goals and his goals last season were indeed underwhelming. He is 23 years old and experienced enough to take on the challenge and deliver. The age can't be an excuse anymore and I am sure Pochettino had a closer look and came to the conclusion that he might not be any better than the players he already has.

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I heard not only about Juven fans not wanting Lukaku at the club but also Lukaku having faults against several parties that disappointed Inter milan and Chelsea but I don't understand the matter seems a bit complicated.
As I see right now it looks like Lukaku will only stay at Chelsea this season and also not sure whether to be made a main player because chelsea seems a little angry and punishes Lukaku without transferring to another club and only leaving him as a reserve player.
I think if any club wants to sign Lukaku and Chelsea is giving a signal if it is confirmed soon it is better that Lukaku also agrees rather than this season he not have a career just sitting all match better go to another club to be a main player.
Regarding Tottenham, it doesn't seem like they really want to get Lukaku because there is not enough money to make up for it.

Future plans for Lukaku are undetermined but it is apparent that he wants respect and a positive environment. He is in a challenging situation as a result of the complex web of failed agreements perceived betrayals and complicated transfer. The suspense is increased by probable links to Tottenham as kane replacement as the epl season approaches and the transfer window close. Juventus supporters resistance makes it seem as though Lukaku Serie A future is grim. In the midst of it all, the possibility of joining the Saudi League loomed making his subsequent transfer crucial for a revitalised career.

I don't think Lukaku made any mistakes that made the Juventus fans angry. It's just that Juventus fans reject Lukaku because we know Lukaku last season played at Inter Milan. And Juventus fans always don't want to sign players who have played with their nemesis, Inter Milan. In this case Lukaku is really at a disadvantage.

Lukaku is clearly still very good in performance and can be a striker who can endanger opponents. it's just that the fate of this player is not so good. Even when he played at Inter Milan he also often suffered injuries. And I hope Lukaku will soon find a club that can appreciate his services more. But for Arab clubs it seems that Lukaku really doesn't want to go there. And he had turned down one of the offers that came from the Arab club.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on August 11, 2023, 08:49:30 AM

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Napoli are not a big team even though they won the Scudetto last season, that's why they find it difficult to keep their key players.
What happened was not what we wanted and also on the other hand this team needed big money from the transfers they made so it was difficult for them to refuse, apart from that it would interfere with the team's performance.
Everyone is pessimistic about Napoli, but I think it won't be as bad as people think, I still believe they will be able to compete fiercely at the top of the standings.

We need to accept popular and big team will always dominating, if there's a small team become a champion, it will not last long. The big team will offer big amount of wage and it make the small team has no option since they will get a lot money after the transfer is successful.

Pretty much the same like atletico madrid in la liga which sometime was able winning the league but napoli was different case caused by the club was able winning scudetto again after 20 years. That proves that if the result from last season might be a luck from napoli.
The fact that if juventus performed not so bad last season as it was able sitting at the second place before it got point deduction as a sanction from FGIC. Juventus will come back again next season. Napoli must prepare its club. There will be no spalletti. Osimhen and kvarat was nothing without him. Im sure napoli will be performing so differ compared with last season.

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Napoli is like Dortmund in Bundesliga, the team is used to be a stepping stone for the young or potential player.

True. that's what im thinking about. I can't deny that if the strongest candidates to win scudetto next seasons probably juve, inter and acmilan.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 10, 2023, 05:09:30 PM

After hearing that Chelsea aren't interested in Vlahovic deal now I'm curious about what his future will be this summer. Because so far he hasn't been doing well with Allegri's system. The number of goals he scores has dropped down a lot. He just can't get enough chances in this system now.

Honestly I think he should still leave for another top team whose system would fit his playing style more. I would love to watch him at Real Madrid for example. Because Real Madrid are also in search of a striker and Mbappe is likely to join them only by next summer as it seems.

Hasn't Vlahovic's performance under Allegri been quite underwhelming? I, too, had placed some optimism in Chelsea expressing an interest, particularly in light of the possibility that he may have made an intriguing match with Broja and Nicholas Jackson. He would have complemented their style, after all! The fact that Pochettino chose not to pursue Vlahovic, though, puts a wrench in the works shows that managers have their own ways.

Real Madrid would definitely be something. Im not sure, though, given the presence of Joselu and the anticipated arrival of Mbappe. Here's a crazy idea: What if Tottenham acquired him? especially in light of Kane's current air of uncertainty. But then again, if Bayern could secure Vlahovic, why would they pursue Kane? The transfer market is incredibly unreliable. Personally, I think Daniel Levy might be passing on some excellent opportunities here.

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Quote from: puloweh555 on August 11, 2023, 09:04:59 AM

Napoli last season really excelled in both Serie A and UCL. Whatever achievements last season Napoli have been extraordinary, even though in the end they failed in the Champions League. Napoli really became one of the scary dark horses last season both in Italy and in Europe. Napoli's success was also inseparable from the genius of coach Spalletti, thanks to Spalletti's cold concoction, the Napoli he coached turned into a very superior team.

But I agree with you, even though it was difficult to stop Napoli last season, this season they will find it difficult to maintain their appearance and consistency. Especially with a new coach and many other big teams that have developed, of course it will be difficult for Napoli to be able to keep playing like last season.

There performance was very Amazing and they played in unison and there performance was very outstanding and that why they competed very well in all competitions, at a point I felt they were the favorite to win the Champions League because of the goals victor oshimen kept scoring however they tried to get into the quarter finals and won the Serie A trophy, what surprises me is that they let the coach leave and sold some of their key players.
And that's why I think this season is going to be a tough one for them because the new coach might come up with a tactics that's not quite easy for some players to adapt to or maybe new signings might find it difficult to blend into the teams strategy, however if you noticed other Italian clubs have strengthened their squad depth especially Ac Milan that's bought a handful of good players across Europe, including inter and Juventus as well also their key player and goal getter victory oshimen is still trying to recover from his injury.

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In my opinion, Napoli made some totally suicidal moves, arguing with a good coach who led you to victory, making key players leave who by now knew the schemes by heart and who knew how to fit well into the team: I am skeptical about the performances.

Napoli has an important pool of players right now. Many of the players are confident that they won Serie A last year. Of course, it would have been better if they had not been eliminated by Milan in UCL, but even their performance in the league was amazing for them. Therefore, they will definitely be affected by the change of coach, but I hope it will not have a big impact.

I understand your point of view, maybe I am too pessimistic. In any case, this year I think I am temporarily supporting Napoli
My beloved Juventus is not in good shape, due to so many problems and too heavy punishments inflicted, or, like last year, I support them both (better)

Napoli are not a big team even though they won the Scudetto last season, that's why they find it difficult to keep their key players.
What happened was not what we wanted and also on the other hand this team needed big money from the transfers they made so it was difficult for them to refuse, apart from that it would interfere with the team's performance.
Everyone is pessimistic about Napoli, but I think it won't be as bad as people think, I still believe they will be able to compete fiercely at the top of the standings.

But strangely, there are still those who expect Napoli to perform as well as they did last season. When in fact, even other big teams like Juventus cannot defend their scudetto. With that said, then expecting Napoli to have the same performance as last season, I believe it is a wrong expectation because it is certainly difficult to become a reality. But yes, even though Napoli cannot defend the scudetto, at least I still believe that Napoli will still be able to compete well in the top five in the Serie A standings next season.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on August 11, 2023, 08:49:30 AM

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Napoli are not a big team even though they won the Scudetto last season, that's why they find it difficult to keep their key players.
What happened was not what we wanted and also on the other hand this team needed big money from the transfers they made so it was difficult for them to refuse, apart from that it would interfere with the team's performance.
Everyone is pessimistic about Napoli, but I think it won't be as bad as people think, I still believe they will be able to compete fiercely at the top of the standings.

We need to accept popular and big team will always dominating, if there's a small team become a champion, it will not last long. The big team will offer big amount of wage and it make the small team has no option since they will get a lot money after the transfer is successful.

Napoli is like Dortmund in Bundesliga, the team is used to be a stepping stone for the young or potential player.

Actually , Napoli has always been a massive team in Italy and Europe for quite a while now and I don't see them folding the championship so easy this season.

Look at Juventus now , what will they dominate this season ? Because with the current team that they have, they might even struggle to catch UCL spots and it will not be the first time for Juventus having rough years in Serie A.

Dortmund is Dortmund and you cannot compare it with another team from another championship as Bundesliga is really having no competition for Bayern where in Serie A we have 5 big teams with real chances every year : Ac.Milan , Inter , Juve , Napoli and As.Roma/Lazio.

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Napoli are not a big team even though they won the Scudetto last season, that's why they find it difficult to keep their key players.
What happened was not what we wanted and also on the other hand this team needed big money from the transfers they made so it was difficult for them to refuse, apart from that it would interfere with the team's performance.
Everyone is pessimistic about Napoli, but I think it won't be as bad as people think, I still believe they will be able to compete fiercely at the top of the standings.

Napoli last season really excelled in both Serie A and UCL. Whatever achievements last season Napoli have been extraordinary, even though in the end they failed in the Champions League. Napoli really became one of the scary dark horses last season both in Italy and in Europe. Napoli's success was also inseparable from the genius of coach Spalletti, thanks to Spalletti's cold concoction, the Napoli he coached turned into a very superior team.

But I agree with you, even though it was difficult to stop Napoli last season, this season they will find it difficult to maintain their appearance and consistency. Especially with a new coach and many other big teams that have developed, of course it will be difficult for Napoli to be able to keep playing like last season.

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Quote from: Unknown Op on August 11, 2023, 08:43:41 AM

Quote from: klidex on August 10, 2023, 01:23:28 PM

I heard not only about Juven fans not wanting Lukaku at the club but also Lukaku having faults against several parties that disappointed Inter milan and Chelsea but I don't understand the matter seems a bit complicated.
As I see right now it looks like Lukaku will only stay at Chelsea this season and also not sure whether to be made a main player because chelsea seems a little angry and punishes Lukaku without transferring to another club and only leaving him as a reserve player.
I think if any club wants to sign Lukaku and Chelsea is giving a signal if it is confirmed soon it is better that Lukaku also agrees rather than this season he not have a career just sitting all match better go to another club to be a main player.
Regarding Tottenham, it doesn't seem like they really want to get Lukaku because there is not enough money to make up for it.

Future plans for Lukaku are undetermined but it is apparent that he wants respect and a positive environment. He is in a challenging situation as a result of the complex web of failed agreements perceived betrayals and complicated transfer. The suspense is increased by probable links to Tottenham as kane replacement as the epl season approaches and the transfer window close. Juventus supporters resistance makes it seem as though Lukaku Serie A future is grim. In the midst of it all, the possibility of joining the Saudi League loomed making his subsequent transfer crucial for a revitalised career.

If there could be any way Romelu Lukaku is linked to Tottenham Hotspur, I think it'll be a great for his as a player and an opportunity to continue playing top flight football in one of the top five leagues in Europe.
There's no possiblity of the Belgian to go back to Chelsea and that's because he's not in the future plans of the new Chelsea boss despite the fact that Christopher Nkunku is out injured. He would've been a good signing for Juventus but 90% of the club's supporters do not want him at the club

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Napoli are not a big team even though they won the Scudetto last season, that's why they find it difficult to keep their key players.
What happened was not what we wanted and also on the other hand this team needed big money from the transfers they made so it was difficult for them to refuse, apart from that it would interfere with the team's performance.
Everyone is pessimistic about Napoli, but I think it won't be as bad as people think, I still believe they will be able to compete fiercely at the top of the standings.

Napoli will be fully ready to compete for scudetto in the forthcoming season. Nothing changed with the club, only some players departed and the coach, Luciano Spalleti. He was an important embodiment for the club, making crucial plans to win games and they were competitive more than any other club in the Seria A last season. I just hope they can continued to record good performance just like the previous season, because I'm sure that alot of things will changed, every elite clubs is planning to make crucial moves next season, that would aides to benefit good positions.

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Napoli are not a big team even though they won the Scudetto last season, that's why they find it difficult to keep their key players.
What happened was not what we wanted and also on the other hand this team needed big money from the transfers they made so it was difficult for them to refuse, apart from that it would interfere with the team's performance.
Everyone is pessimistic about Napoli, but I think it won't be as bad as people think, I still believe they will be able to compete fiercely at the top of the standings.

We need to accept popular and big team will always dominating, if there's a small team become a champion, it will not last long. The big team will offer big amount of wage and it make the small team has no option since they will get a lot money after the transfer is successful.

Napoli is like Dortmund in Bundesliga, the team is used to be a stepping stone for the young or potential player.

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Quote from: klidex on August 10, 2023, 01:23:28 PM

I heard not only about Juven fans not wanting Lukaku at the club but also Lukaku having faults against several parties that disappointed Inter milan and Chelsea but I don't understand the matter seems a bit complicated.
As I see right now it looks like Lukaku will only stay at Chelsea this season and also not sure whether to be made a main player because chelsea seems a little angry and punishes Lukaku without transferring to another club and only leaving him as a reserve player.
I think if any club wants to sign Lukaku and Chelsea is giving a signal if it is confirmed soon it is better that Lukaku also agrees rather than this season he not have a career just sitting all match better go to another club to be a main player.
Regarding Tottenham, it doesn't seem like they really want to get Lukaku because there is not enough money to make up for it.

Future plans for Lukaku are undetermined but it is apparent that he wants respect and a positive environment. He is in a challenging situation as a result of the complex web of failed agreements perceived betrayals and complicated transfer. The suspense is increased by probable links to Tottenham as kane replacement as the epl season approaches and the transfer window close. Juventus supporters resistance makes it seem as though Lukaku Serie A future is grim. In the midst of it all, the possibility of joining the Saudi League loomed making his subsequent transfer crucial for a revitalised career.

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Quote from: giammangiato on August 11, 2023, 06:02:08 AM

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In my opinion, Napoli made some totally suicidal moves, arguing with a good coach who led you to victory, making key players leave who by now knew the schemes by heart and who knew how to fit well into the team: I am skeptical about the performances.

Napoli has an important pool of players right now. Many of the players are confident that they won Serie A last year. Of course, it would have been better if they had not been eliminated by Milan in UCL, but even their performance in the league was amazing for them. Therefore, they will definitely be affected by the change of coach, but I hope it will not have a big impact.

I understand your point of view, maybe I am too pessimistic. In any case, this year I think I am temporarily supporting Napoli
My beloved Juventus is not in good shape, due to so many problems and too heavy punishments inflicted, or, like last year, I support them both (better)

Come on don't jump ship here! Tongue

But yes when the favorite club isn't playing in the Champions League or maybe at least Europa League, it is less exciting to look forward to the middle of the season in particular, when all the big games start and Juventus Turin isn't part of it. But that is the consequence they have to bear because of all their actions.

The bad thing is that it hits the wrong people the most. The players, the coach, and especially the fans are those people who are most affected by the wrongdoing of some officials in the background. Have any officials been individually punished as well or only the club as a whole?

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Quote from: giammangiato on August 09, 2023, 06:02:08 AM

In my opinion, Napoli made some totally suicidal moves, arguing with a good coach who led you to victory, making key players leave who by now knew the schemes by heart and who knew how to fit well into the team: I am skeptical about the performances.

Napoli has an important pool of players right now. Many of the players are confident that they won Serie A last year. Of course, it would have been better if they had not been eliminated by Milan in UCL, but even their performance in the league was amazing for them. Therefore, they will definitely be affected by the change of coach, but I hope it will not have a big impact.

I understand your point of view, maybe I am too pessimistic. In any case, this year I think I am temporarily supporting Napoli
My beloved Juventus is not in good shape, due to so many problems and too heavy punishments inflicted, or, like last year, I support them both (better)

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of course all teams want to be better than last season and try to do that, Inter Milan was a very strong team last season, it's just that consistency and a bad start to the season made them fail to win the scudetto last season, so I think of course they will be able getting stronger for next season after fixing the shortcomings last season.
Serie A now looks more competitive, there are several teams that are starting to get much better and of course this makes the competition even more fierce, that has been the case since last season.

Regarding Juventus, it's really a pity, because the internal problems they experienced made the team's performance even worse, but in this pre-season their performance looks very good, I hope it will last throughout this season, because of course Serie A will be more interesting if Juventus returns. in the candidate or competition for the Scudetto.

From the start of the season, Inter Milan actually really had the upper hand and they were a strong enough candidate to win every league they played, but unfortunately when it reached the end of the season, Inter Milan actually had a little difficulty fighting for the if I compared Inter Milan last season have the same fate as Arsenal in the Premier League.
Hopefully, for this season, Inter Milan can show their strength from the beginning to the end of the season by winning the title, considering that they have also prepared the arrival of several new players for this season.
But that way Inter Milan also cannot underestimate other clubs because in one season there is a long enough time so that an increase in the performance of each club will definitely occur without being noticed.

Yes, because of the problems they experienced and also being subject to sizable fines, Juventus had quite obvious internal and financial problems.
In pre-season, I can't be sure that Juventus will remain the same in the league later, because pre-season is not a place to show strength, but only to test the game from every player and I'm sure the performance and strategy in pre-season with the League will be very different.

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In terms of player quality I like Roma's squad. It is at a quite nice level which is enough to be in a fight for top 4. But the main problem is that in some positions there is an issue of depth. I mean squad depth should be improved by increasing the number of players for specific areas.

Left-back, midfield and left-right wing areas can be secured much more by signing new players. Because especially for left-back and wings there is a small number of players. In case of injury, suspension and so on Roma might have to deal with big issues and this can affect their performance badly as well.

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Quote from: xzone on August 11, 2023, 03:13:55 AM

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Seria A would be interesting this new season, because managers have put things in order in their respective clubs. AS Roma among the competitive clubs that would board the race to win the Scudetto, they're 100% ready. However their headcoach, José Mourinho keen on making more signings from the transfer window, the club needs to be extremely competent if they want to sealed their place in the top four next season. Last season, the club board took so many things for granted, which make them vulnerable and unable to perform with confidence.

I think it's a little difficult for them to become champions, I don't think they've made enough transfers. At least they didn't do anything big enough to be champions. Many players joined the team, but there is no one they bought by paying a high transfer fee. It will not be easy to become a champion with a few young players. I guess Mourinho and team management still don't get along very well

@xzone I would disagree about Roma transfer’s because they have bought quality player’s who’ll improve this team a lot and they’re also close to getting Renato who was a very good player and he can definitely revive himself under Mourinho’s tutelage. Also if Inter lose Lukaku and Juventus crisis continues then it does present an excellent opportunity for Roma to compete for the title hence it won’t surprise me if they win it at the end of the season.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 10, 2023, 09:47:48 PM

Seria A would be interesting this new season, because managers have put things in order in their respective clubs. AS Roma among the competitive clubs that would board the race to win the Scudetto, they're 100% ready. However their headcoach, José Mourinho keen on making more signings from the transfer window, the club needs to be extremely competent if they want to sealed their place in the top four next season. Last season, the club board took so many things for granted, which make them vulnerable and unable to perform with confidence.

I think it's a little difficult for them to become champions, I don't think they've made enough transfers. At least they didn't do anything big enough to be champions. Many players joined the team, but there is no one they bought by paying a high transfer fee. It will not be easy to become a champion with a few young players. I guess Mourinho and team management still don't get along very well

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