Whenever the European transfer window is open, there will always be rumours concerning players on which club they might be heading next to. However not all these rumours turns out to reality and sometimes the rumours grow to reality. I don't expect Victor Osimhen who had the best season of his professional career last season to join another Italian club this summer if there's he decides to leave the Italian champions.
Italian top clubs in their current state are clearly not the goal that Osimhen expects in his future as a player. Yes, he can bargain for some salary improvements from these clubs, but not so significant and the price for him is too huge for the Italians. 
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I don't even know where Osimhen to Milan rumours came from. Because this is just nonsense to me now. Why would he leave a team which is in better condition? Let's say he wanted to join a much bigger team than I would understand. But Milan aren't a team that have had that kind of status in the recent times.
I thought that if it was coming from unreliable media. Some garbage sites were randomly making some fake news to attract the traffic. I do know that if it was fake news by only hearing it. Osimhen never commented on the possibility of moving to the acmilan. There are so many shit news around us. I would expect Osimhen to sign for only top European teams in other top leagues. I don't expect less than that to happen. Otherwise he would just continue his career at Napoli. They have already been reported to be working on a contract extension.
Even european clubs will be thinking so hard before trying to paid what already demanded by napoli. Osimhen's release clause was too big. That's also the reason why PSG has been moving from him to the goncalo ramos. The big club will not blindly buy his release clause before knowing how worth he was for the club.
I don't even know where Osimhen to Milan rumours came from. Because this is just nonsense to me now. Why would he leave a team which is in better condition? Let's say he wanted to join a much bigger team than I would understand. But Milan aren't a team that have had that kind of status in the recent times.
I would expect Osimhen to sign for only top European teams in other top leagues. I don't expect less than that to happen. Otherwise he would just continue his career at Napoli. They have already been reported to be working on a contract extension.
Whenever the European transfer window is open, there will always be rumours concerning players on which club they might be heading next to. However not all these rumours turns out to reality and sometimes the rumours grow to reality.I would expect Osimhen to sign for only top European teams in other top leagues. I don't expect less than that to happen. Otherwise he would just continue his career at Napoli. They have already been reported to be working on a contract extension.
I don't expect Victor Osimhen who had the best season of his professional career last season to join another Italian club this summer if there's he decides to leave the Italian champions.
I don't even know where Osimhen to Milan rumours came from. Because this is just nonsense to me now. Why would he leave a team which is in better condition? Let's say he wanted to join a much bigger team than I would understand. But Milan aren't a team that have had that kind of status in the recent times.
I would expect Osimhen to sign for only top European teams in other top leagues. I don't expect less than that to happen. Otherwise he would just continue his career at Napoli. They have already been reported to be working on a contract extension.
I would expect Osimhen to sign for only top European teams in other top leagues. I don't expect less than that to happen. Otherwise he would just continue his career at Napoli. They have already been reported to be working on a contract extension.
A swap deal between Chelsea and Juventus is probable now. As far as I have heard Juventus want 40 million euros cash plus Lukaku to send Vlahovic to them. I think this is a quite reasonable deal for Chelsea. There is no meaning in keeping Lukaku for Chelsea in the first place. Vlahovic would be a way better choice at the moment.
Chelsea doesn't agree with such offer. Chelsea already lowered its offer for juventus. The club may agree to get vlahovic once juventus will agree with 35m + lukaku as its offer. It's a non sense deal to give a lot of money for juventus. Chelsea has been also adding lukaku in the in the its offer. Juventus shall lowered its offer for chelsea if the club is willing to sell vlahovic but the fact that if vlahovic didn't wanna leave from juventus. This deal may be cancelled by chelsea.
Lukaku has played for Chelsea many times and we have never seen him showing an impressive performance consistently. There is no reason to give him another chance. Vlahovic is a young and really skilled scorer. I think he would fit Pochettino's system better than Allegri's.
Juventus and chelsea are so desperate to sell their useless strikers. Vlahovic already made personal agreement with PSG but juventus wants him to be exchanged for lukaku from chelsea + additional funds. I think that vlahovic can reject it and the transfer will not happen.
Chelsea are really caring about paying 5 more million euros for Vlahovic now? Anyway it is still a deal that Juventus could agree upon. Vlahovic is normally not a useless striker but he is just not the man for Allegri's system. He can't play as comfortable as he was before. Maybe signing for Chelsea can help him start playing like himself.
Juventus are keen on having Lukaku after seeing Vlahovic's performance last season. Chelsea shouldn't give up on this deal as it would be a reasonable deal for them. It is obvious they can't do anything with Lukaku. Bringing Vlahovic is a chance to keep their attacking line more productive.
I think Chelsea got enough money to pay more attention to their performance in the next season and they don't need to think cheap and think about cheaper players because they should choose between Lukaku and Vlahovic while we all know selling Lukaku and buying Vlahovic from Juventus can be more helpful for them and I don't think if they care about the 5m money and they are going to make this transfer happen.
I know that for many this causes sadness because things with Buffon bring back many memories, just remembering the good times he had at Juve, when he was in the Italian team, when he was world champion, these things are what Italians and I think many of us who are soccer fans are going to miss this great goalkeeper.
I will always remember his performance in the 2006 world cup against France in the final match when Zidane scored the goal from a penalty kick, Buffon was always a legendary goalkeeper and he had good times, especially in Juventus but unlike other players, he didn't join the Arabian team and instead of that he joined this first where he likes to end his career.
While it is true that player departures and expected transfers will provide issues for Napoli this season it is necessary to take into account the inherent unpredictability of transfer rumours. Since Victor Osimhen contract with Napoli is still in effect and there are no trustworthy sources to back up this rumour the report that he will be joining AC Milan looks dubious. It is important to wait to draw judgements until there are formal announcements. To maintain a competitive position in Italian League Napoli can still bolster their team with potential acquisitions and rely on their strong custodian and defenders. Even if the season may be challenging they have a chance to claim a high spot if not the first then at least the second.
Although there are rumors about Osimhen moving to Milan, I'm not sure it will happen. Even though his contract with Napoli will soon expire, Milan is unlikely to bring him in as a permanent purchase. Considering that AC Milan is currently focused on buying affordable players, they might not pursue Osimhen with a buying status (maybe if he was free agents). Of course, I would be happy if Osimhen does join Milan because he would enhance AC Milan's attacking rhythm. But for now, i don't think this rumor will come true.
I also don't think the rumors of Osimhen becoming Milan player next season will really happen considering his current deal with his club Napoli and the Napoli president saying that the player is still a player of the club Napoli even though offers has come from Saudi Arabia Which is one of the bigest deals for the player but it is not considered yet because Napoli is happy with the performance of the striker who helped them to win the league last season as the top goal scorer in SeriaA. Osimhen joining Milan is going to be a huge deal for Napoli but I think Napoli will rather sell Osihmen to another club to make money when he still has one year contract with the club than letting him join Milan as a free agent that will be of no profit for the club but rather Milan will be a stronger opposition for Napoli to play against.
There's been several rumours about his future and the next football home of Osimhen which hasn't been confirmed by the player or the manager. That being said, I don't think Victor Osimhen wouldn't leave Napoli this summer for another Italian club
Still, the topic about Victor Osimhen is wide-open and there are not any teams that send official offers for this player, mostly because the price for this player is more than it should be and there are other options they can have instead of Osimhen in the next season for this amount of money. I think Napoli is just trying to keep Victor Osimhen for the next season because they know they need this payer and that's why we can say Osihen is going to play in Napoli for another season.
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Osimhen's current market value is €120m, but I assume Napoli set a minimum transfer fees around €150m. It is surely a huge amount of money, only big clubs like Real Madrid or PSG that can pay the transfer fees. I also doubt that AC Milan or Inter Milan is interested to sign Osimhen, they may prefer to sign cheaper strikers. There are still many other strikers who have cheaper prices although the prices of most players are getting higher right now.We don't know what the plan for Osimhen, but I think Napoli is better to sell him as soon as possible. I am not sure Napoli still can perform as well as the last season, Osimhen price will decrease if Napoli performance is decreasing. Unless getting a bigger money in the next transfer window, the top clubs may be not interested anymore with Osimhen. Napoli must let him leaving in the current transfer window if they want sell him at the best price.
In the end Napoli may need to accept another team's proposal for Osimhen if the player does not want to stay. I'm sure Osimhen won't be able to maintain the same form as last season, so Napoli should also consider selling him instead of having to apply for a longer contract extension. 120 million euros is a fantastic value, so Napoli has nothing to lose to release him to interested teams.
Then they have 120 million euros in the bank and then next? I think approving transfers for some of the top players should involve more than just the transfer fee. If a club knows that they won't be able to replace that player because there are no other players available, I think the situation changes quite a lot even when the transfer fee is tempting. But selling a player is only the first step. The gap must be closed and they can either risk it and hope that they find some player who performs amazingly but cost much less than the 120 million, or they could have issues and miss a striker badly in the next season. The market for strikers isn't easy right now and as soon as it is about one of those extremely strong strikers, 120 million might not even be enough to replace Osimhen.
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Osimhen's current market value is €120m, but I assume Napoli set a minimum transfer fees around €150m. It is surely a huge amount of money, only big clubs like Real Madrid or PSG that can pay the transfer fees. I also doubt that AC Milan or Inter Milan is interested to sign Osimhen, they may prefer to sign cheaper strikers. There are still many other strikers who have cheaper prices although the prices of most players are getting higher right now.We don't know what the plan for Osimhen, but I think Napoli is better to sell him as soon as possible. I am not sure Napoli still can perform as well as the last season, Osimhen price will decrease if Napoli performance is decreasing. Unless getting a bigger money in the next transfer window, the top clubs may be not interested anymore with Osimhen. Napoli must let him leaving in the current transfer window if they want sell him at the best price.
In the end Napoli may need to accept another team's proposal for Osimhen if the player does not want to stay. I'm sure Osimhen won't be able to maintain the same form as last season, so Napoli should also consider selling him instead of having to apply for a longer contract extension. 120 million euros is a fantastic value, so Napoli has nothing to lose to release him to interested teams.
Osimhen's price is too high for a team like Ac Milan I don't know where the idea comes from to say Ac Milan trying to hire Osimhen for the next season but as far as I know, other teams in Serie A can't have enough money to hire this player for the next season and even if Napoli gets some offer for Osimhen from other teams, there will other teams like PSG with better financial situation.
But regardless of that, I think Napoli's first priority is to keep Osimhen for another season.
Osimhen's current market value is €120m, but I assume Napoli set a minimum transfer fees around €150m. It is surely a huge amount of money, only big clubs like Real Madrid or PSG that can pay the transfer fees. I also doubt that AC Milan or Inter Milan is interested to sign Osimhen, they may prefer to sign cheaper strikers. There are still many other strikers who have cheaper prices although the prices of most players are getting higher right now.But regardless of that, I think Napoli's first priority is to keep Osimhen for another season.
We don't know what the plan for Osimhen, but I think Napoli is better to sell him as soon as possible. I am not sure Napoli still can perform as well as the last season, Osimhen price will decrease if Napoli performance is decreasing. Unless getting a bigger money in the next transfer window, the top clubs may be not interested anymore with Osimhen. Napoli must let him leaving in the current transfer window if they want sell him at the best price.
Napoli is still ok this season as Osimhen's contract is running until 2025. But when Al-Hilal made that offer, did Osimhen say that he would go to Saudi Arabia? Napoli can keep him for another season and they don't really have to fear to be missing out on a sensational transfer fee. That would still be possible next season. But for Osimhen signing a long-term contract with a club from Saudi Arabia would put any of his title ambitions on ice for a very long time or even forever. Going there at the age of 24 would be a brave decision as this really means a decision against a top level career. He should give himself a couple more years in Europe.
The big clubs in Saudi Arabia are crazy. They don't hesitate to spend a lot of money to attract attention and get big players in European leagues. As for Al Hilal and An Nassr, both of them seemed to be competing to get new, talented players. They will not have problems with their finances because they are very rich. But it seems that if you attract young players who incidentally still have a brilliant career in Europe, this might be difficult. And this time Al Hilal tried bids Oshimen, Napoli's best striker. A little surprised, but still don't know how it will go. With such a big buyout offer and such a fantastic salary, who wouldn't be interested, right... even Napoli had said so. Hahaha.. So I don't know what will happen to Oshimen if it turns out that the bid from Al Hilal is getting increased. Let's hope he is consistent in developing his brilliant career first, or instead he chooses money for a bright future haha 
Osimhen's price is too high for a team like Ac Milan I don't know where the idea comes from to say Ac Milan trying to hire Osimhen for the next season but as far as I know, other teams in Serie A can't have enough money to hire this player for the next season and even if Napoli gets some offer for Osimhen from other teams, there will other teams like PSG with better financial situation.
But regardless of that, I think Napoli's first priority is to keep Osimhen for another season.
Ac milan is not really interested in recruiting Osimhen there is not even an issue linking them if they want to recruit osimhen in this transfer window. I agree with you that the high price of Osimhen will make the Serie A team unable to bring in Osimhen in this transfer market. For now only the teams from the Saudi Arabian League have strong finances to recruit Osimhen from Napoli.But regardless of that, I think Napoli's first priority is to keep Osimhen for another season.
For now Al hilal is trying to seduce Osimhen in this transfer window where Al hilal has made a bid of 140 million Euros to bring Osimhen from Napoli. So, if Napoli accepts this offer, it is very likely that Osimhen will play in the Saudi Arabian league next season. But i think he will consider accepting the offer from Al Hilal because he is still quite young and can pursue his dream in europe with another team like PSG.
Napoli is still ok this season as Osimhen's contract is running until 2025. But when Al-Hilal made that offer, did Osimhen say that he would go to Saudi Arabia? Napoli can keep him for another season and they don't really have to fear to be missing out on a sensational transfer fee. That would still be possible next season. But for Osimhen signing a long-term contract with a club from Saudi Arabia would put any of his title ambitions on ice for a very long time or even forever. Going there at the age of 24 would be a brave decision as this really means a decision against a top level career. He should give himself a couple more years in Europe.
Osimhen's price is too high for a team like Ac Milan I don't know where the idea comes from to say Ac Milan trying to hire Osimhen for the next season but as far as I know, other teams in Serie A can't have enough money to hire this player for the next season and even if Napoli gets some offer for Osimhen from other teams, there will other teams like PSG with better financial situation.
But regardless of that, I think Napoli's first priority is to keep Osimhen for another season.
Ac milan is not really interested in recruiting Osimhen there is not even an issue linking them if they want to recruit osimhen in this transfer window. I agree with you that the high price of Osimhen will make the Serie A team unable to bring in Osimhen in this transfer market. For now only the teams from the Saudi Arabian League have strong finances to recruit Osimhen from Napoli.But regardless of that, I think Napoli's first priority is to keep Osimhen for another season.
For now Al hilal is trying to seduce Osimhen in this transfer window where Al hilal has made a bid of 140 million Euros to bring Osimhen from Napoli. So, if Napoli accepts this offer, it is very likely that Osimhen will play in the Saudi Arabian league next season. But i think he will consider accepting the offer from Al Hilal because he is still quite young and can pursue his dream in europe with another team like PSG.
It seems like it would be a pity if Juventus sold Vlahovic just to get Lukaku because after all, Vlahovic is still young compared to Lukaku who has entered retirement age. Therefore, it is appropriate for Juventus to keep Vlahovic, because I think Vlahovic has a better performance and of course Vlahovic has great potential. So, it is not worth it if Juventus sell Vlahovic just to bring Lukaku, whose performance also seems to have greatly decreased, and it will make Juventus performance later become not optimal.
Agree. Selling Vlahovic for Lukaku isn't a good idea, Juventus doesn't get an equal replacement. Although Juventus may get some money plus Lukaku, I think Juventus still can't get a proper benefit at the end. Selling Vlahovic means to miss their main striker who has a young age, better performance, and more potential future. Lukaku may be a good striker a few years ago, but he didn't perform very well lately. Even Inter Milan doesn't want to sign him, it means Lukaku isn't a very convincing striker. So, it is better to keep Vlahovic and never think about signing Lukaku. I'm not sure if Lukaku can fit in with the game style of Juventus. It would be very regrettable if Lukaku is completely useless for Juventus.
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Juventus and chelsea are so desperate to sell their useless strikers. Vlahovic already made personal agreement with PSG but juventus wants him to be exchanged for lukaku from chelsea + additional funds.
I think that vlahovic can reject it and the transfer will not happen.
Juventus and chelsea are so desperate to sell their useless strikers. Vlahovic already made personal agreement with PSG but juventus wants him to be exchanged for lukaku from chelsea + additional funds.
I think that vlahovic can reject it and the transfer will not happen.
very strange things are happening in the market in fact, I dont understand this frenzy of selling players who are good
I think a lot of it is a commercial ploy, like when my Juventus buy Cristiano Ronaldo (just to be able to sell shirts and raise cash)
I dont understand this way of doing it.. zero
Victor Osimhen had the best season of his professional career last season and thanks to the coach and staff of Napoli for bringing our the best from the Nigeria international.
There's been several rumours about his future and the next football home of Osimhen which hasn't been confirmed by the player or the manager. That being said, I don't think Victor Osimhen wouldn't leave Napoli this summer for another Italian club
While the risk of Osimhen heading to Milan is still unknown it appears doubtful that Ac Milan will make a long term acquisition given their emphasis on accessible players. The player existing Napoli contract and the Saudi Arabian offers add to the difficulty of the situation. It is less likely that Napoli will release Osimhen as a free agent to Milan because of the president view of him as a valued asset and the leading goal scorer in Serie A. Napoli might instead decide to sell him to another team in order to make money. If Osimhen does join Milan it will surely improve their attacking capability but as of now it seems dubious that the rumour will come to pass.There's been several rumours about his future and the next football home of Osimhen which hasn't been confirmed by the player or the manager. That being said, I don't think Victor Osimhen wouldn't leave Napoli this summer for another Italian club
Osimhen's price is too high for a team like Ac Milan I don't know where the idea comes from to say Ac Milan trying to hire Osimhen for the next season but as far as I know, other teams in Serie A can't have enough money to hire this player for the next season and even if Napoli gets some offer for Osimhen from other teams, there will other teams like PSG with better financial situation.
But regardless of that, I think Napoli's first priority is to keep Osimhen for another season.
I think this kind of thing has happened many times and it will always generate hatred from the fans. Maybe in terms of loyalty it is considered inappropriate to imitate, but at least the player has contributed fully to the team he is defending. Sometimes players also see that the potential to win titles is much more open when joining a rival team and therefore this can be beneficial from a career perspective, but not infrequently it is sometimes not what is expected. The need to anticipate unwanted things in order to stay away from guilt after joining a rival team.
Do you guys take this issue really seriously. I think this is a form of baseless rumours I mean there is no way ac milan can afford to buy osimhen in this transfer window because Ac milan's finances are not very good in this transfer window. In my opinion, Osimhen will not go to a Serie A club if he really wants to leave Napoli, of course he will try a new challenge by joining another league, be it the Premier League or Laliga.But so far the development of the Osimhen transfer saga has never reaped certainty because previously he had been linked with PSG, Chelsea and Manchester United but in the end none of these three teams were really serious about making an official bid to recruit Osimhen.
I think that the next season is of existential relevance to them. They won't disappear or anything when they have another bad season, but they will have lots of difficulties to rebuild their team should they miss the Champions League again.
That's how they should be. This previous season became a very valuable lesson for the club and also for the players and all parties in general. Here, we can later see how serious Juventus are in improving their team, in improving and developing this team very well this season. Not only that, Juventus also have some quite complicated homework on several fronts and they are trying to fix it. If they failed again, this would be too much. At least they can enter the UCL next season, if indeed they can really improve their performance, without any more sanctions.......But apart from Osimhen, I personally don't care if Osimhen stays or leaves because either way, it's clear that defending the title is a tough matter. What's more, Napoli is not a team that is always at the top of the standings every season so it will be natural if later Napoli cannot defend its Scudetto title.....
If only Oshimen would have Napoli still have more trouble defending the title this season, especially if Oshimen moved later. This will make Napoli itself worse. moreover, there have been several changes in Napoli, not to mention they have the newest coach, not Spaletti anymore. Surely they are trying something new again even though Napoli say that Rudi Garcia may have almost the same way and tactics. But we don't know what the results will be yet. So, it's still a guesswork. That's why many people doubt if Napoli can defend the Scudetto title or not.I think so far the Napoli team is pretty much the same as last season except for a few changes, but it is not like Rudi Garcia has to find a completely new team. Osimhen was one of the major questions here. If he left, part of their game also changes of course. The news are that Osimhen decided to 100% stay with Napoli for the next season. But apart from him they didn't have huge changes either although replacing Min-jae Kim won't be easy. His performances were great and he contributed a lot to the stability and coordination of the Napoli defense.
It seems like it would be a pity if Juventus sold Vlahovic just to get Lukaku because after all, Vlahovic is still young compared to Lukaku who has entered retirement age. Therefore, it is appropriate for Juventus to keep Vlahovic, because I think Vlahovic has a better performance and of course Vlahovic has great potential. So, it is not worth it if Juventus sell Vlahovic just to bring Lukaku, whose performance also seems to have greatly decreased, and it will make Juventus performance later become not optimal.
Juventus must have a reason why they did it it's just that we don't know, I suspect Juventus need fresh funds to go through next season's competition and the best way is to get money + get a replacement, in addition next season Juventus will only focus on local competitions because they are not allowed to compete in European competitions. Vlahovic's performance also declined last season, he dropped out of the top scorer list and I'm sure Lukaku is only for one season after that if they qualify for the champions league Juventus will look for new players.
I dont know how much Lukaku can bring to Juventus,he is in a really bad form lately and he is far from his best form. Plus Juventus is playing really defencive so i dont think he can score a lot of goals. With him coming to Juventus Vlahovic will need to leave for sure. But still is a question where be will go from Juventus
Even though Juventus seem to tend to have a defensive strategy from their game, I think that strategy can be adjusted if they have a striker who has good goal statistics. Romelu Lukaku has those stats with Inter even though he didn't have more than 10 goals last season in Serie A. Romelu Lukaku only has 25 appearances in Serie A, but I think he can still contribute a lot to a team that wants to sign him.
Juventus can expect Romelu Lukaku to be the answer to their lack of good goal statistics in the last 2 seasons. Juventus only have 56 and 57 goals in the last 2 seasons in Serie A, but if they have Romelu Lukaku in the squad then surely better stats can be expected.
Maybe we don't know how good Vlahovic would play instead of Lukaku for Chelsea. But we already know one thing which is that Lukaku is playing terrible for Chelsea. It was like that from the beginning. Still Chelsea spent an insane amount of money to sign him back from Inter and it was a huge disappointment. It must be like one of their worst deals in their history. Now they want to get rid of him quickly. When I look at the news I only see Vlahovic being linked with Chelsea recently.
I think Chelsea should reach an agreement with Juventus quickly and try something new. Hopefully Vlahovic would improve his performance there.
Well for Vlahovic, I think he can do better if he finds a good coach and environment to play rather than sanctions and depression in Serie A and Juventus unfortunately.I think Chelsea should reach an agreement with Juventus quickly and try something new. Hopefully Vlahovic would improve his performance there.
For Lukaku, he didn't find stability in Chelsea the first year he moved there, that doesn't mean he will remain unstable and unhelpful for the team the remaining of his contract, yet I think with all the hype and conflicts there, it would be better to move to another club.
Otherwise, Osimhen popped up again with a nice deal from Al Hilal with €140m to move to Saudi Arabia league. I think Napoli will consider this offer if the player agree.
It seems like it would be a pity if Juventus sold Vlahovic just to get Lukaku because after all, Vlahovic is still young compared to Lukaku who has entered retirement age. Therefore, it is appropriate for Juventus to keep Vlahovic, because I think Vlahovic has a better performance and of course Vlahovic has great potential. So, it is not worth it if Juventus sell Vlahovic just to bring Lukaku, whose performance also seems to have greatly decreased, and it will make Juventus performance later become not optimal.
Maybe we don't know how good Vlahovic would play instead of Lukaku for Chelsea. But we already know one thing which is that Lukaku is playing terrible for Chelsea. It was like that from the beginning. Still Chelsea spent an insane amount of money to sign him back from Inter and it was a huge disappointment. It must be like one of their worst deals in their history. Now they want to get rid of him quickly. When I look at the news I only see Vlahovic being linked with Chelsea recently.
I think Chelsea should reach an agreement with Juventus quickly and try something new. Hopefully Vlahovic would improve his performance there.
I think Chelsea should reach an agreement with Juventus quickly and try something new. Hopefully Vlahovic would improve his performance there.
I dont know how much Lukaku can bring to Juventus,he is in a really bad form lately and he is far from his best form. Plus Juventus is playing really defencive so i dont think he can score a lot of goals. With him coming to Juventus Vlahovic will need to leave for sure. But still is a question where be will go from Juventus
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