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Quote from: zuzie on July 19, 2023, 11:44:54 AM

Quote from: uswa56 on July 19, 2023, 08:20:34 AM

Spalletti's departure will certainly have a huge impact on them for next season and the exit of several key players will greatly affect the team's performance. Napoli showed quite a good performance last season so that everyone hopes that the new Napoli coach can continue this performance, thus creating high expectations and in my opinion it is very unlikely in his first season and also possible because these high expectations burden this team, especially the coach new Napoli Rudi Garcia.

There is not several key players who left as you said, only Kim Min-jae with a contribution above the average of other players who officially left Napoli this season. In this case, the key players in important positions in Napoli have so far perform well, it's just that we don't know how the new Napoli coach uses every player in the team.

The Napoli team has to be really admired. The Napoli team is updating itself every season. However, if a quality player can be added to the attacking part of the Napoli team, the team will move forward in the list of title winners.

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Quote from: uswa56 on July 19, 2023, 08:20:34 AM

Spalletti's departure will certainly have a huge impact on them for next season and the exit of several key players will greatly affect the team's performance. Napoli showed quite a good performance last season so that everyone hopes that the new Napoli coach can continue this performance, thus creating high expectations and in my opinion it is very unlikely in his first season and also possible because these high expectations burden this team, especially the coach new Napoli Rudi Garcia.

There is not several key players who left as you said, only Kim Min-jae with a contribution above the average of other players who officially left Napoli this season. In this case, the key players in important positions in Napoli have so far perform well, it's just that we don't know how the new Napoli coach uses every player in the team.

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Quote from: wmaurik on July 19, 2023, 09:36:57 AM

If Spalletti himself has doubts about that, of course the fans will also doubt that next season, because with several new players and also a new coach at Napoli, there will definitely be a difference in Napoli's performance in carrying out the championship in Serie A. Because of the coach Different people will definitely have different ways and directions in organizing and providing strategies for their players so that the unanimous steps made by Spalletti were not wrong last season.

Rudi garcia will have different strategy compared with spalletti. I doubt if napoli will able to repeat the same thing again. The fact that if rudi garcia has very bad stats when he was still in al nassr. I saw no difference between him and galtier.
I were feeling disappointed once napoli was announcing him to be a new coach. I thought that if napoli can do even better by picking a coach that has proven won so many trophies compared with him. That's unpredictable movement by napoli. All of fans are still questioning about how good he was when he gonna be a new coach for napoli. The main problem here if rudi never had good history in the football.

He was not even winning a scudetto with as roma. His track record is not good enough. Napoli needs someone who can handle the club even better compared with spalletti. IMO, taking him as a new coach was a blunder for napoli. I thought that if napoli already lined some popular names but it surprises me. This coach has a conflict with ronaldo in al nassr. Will he do the same thing again in napoli? I can't wait for the first match of napoli this season. It will be a good measurement to know how good napoli under rudi.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on July 19, 2023, 06:08:31 AM

For now I don't expect a significant level of change for Napoli considering this season. It is only up to how strong bond will be created between the players and Rudi Garcia now. Because if we look at the situation from the game plan aspect there isn't significant difference between Rudi Garcia and Spalletti.

Even though the two of them have similarities in terms of game plan aspects, Rudi Garcia has a much bigger burden because currently Napoli is the defending champion in Serie A and Rudi Garcia's burden will be much bigger compared to Spalletti. I have a little doubt that Rudi Garcia can lead Napoli to finish in the top three next season, because talking about the opportunities and qualities of the two will definitely differ in the game plan.

Quote from: jakdanyel on July 19, 2023, 06:08:31 AM

They have almost the same understanding of game plan. Even the formations they use mostly are like the same. Rudi Garcia's having a history in the Serie A with Roma is also a plus for Napoli and him both. His times with Roma in the Serie A were pretty good too.

Maybe when he coached Roma he still had good moments and was able to make Roma appear impressive. But last season Rudi Garcia was sacked by Al Nassr's management because of the series of bad results he had given and rumors of disharmony with players and officials.

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Quote from: bering on July 19, 2023, 08:54:51 AM

There are several names who recommended by Rudi Garcia as the replacement of Kim Min-Jae which moved to Bayern Munich and they are Konstantinos Mavropanos from Stuttgart, Wolves player Max Kilman and Sociedad player Robin Le Normand but apparently Rudi Garcia was more prefer to gets Mavropanos this because he has cheap price because Mavropanos market value is only 10 millions and it's very cheap compared to Max Kilman and Le Normand which is these players has market value 40 millions and from quality too Mavropanos is quite good and at Stuttgart Mavropanos is important player and he has playing 34 times in all competitions with Stuttgart but he has through an poor season with this team because Stuttgart last season almost be relegated because they only can able to finish at 16th place

It seems interesting if Mavropanos will really be brought in by Napoli, because Mavropanos in the past was also an Arsenal player and then loaned out and played in the Bundesliga. With the move, it will certainly be good if Mavropanos plays in Serie A too at least it will make his experience continue to increase. About the quality basically Mavropanos can still be improved if Rudi Garcia can polish or train him in the right way. So, buying at a lower price than others, it will certainly be good if in the end Mavropanos can contribute as expected.

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Quote from: Doell on July 19, 2023, 08:47:12 AM

Considering that players who previously strengthened Napoli also left, and there was rumours that Napoli would sell other key players in the transfer market, this made Spalletti decision more unanimous to leave Napoli. As you said Leaving after winning that trophy yes is far better, because indeed him service that will be remembered by all people especially their fans rather than leaving when don't get any trophy, although there is still a possibility they will win again but maybe Spalletti doubts that.

If Spalletti himself has doubts about that, of course the fans will also doubt that next season, because with several new players and also a new coach at Napoli, there will definitely be a difference in Napoli's performance in carrying out the championship in Serie A. Because of the coach Different people will definitely have different ways and directions in organizing and providing strategies for their players so that the unanimous steps made by Spalletti were not wrong last season.

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Quote from: masulum on July 19, 2023, 08:06:11 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 19, 2023, 06:59:01 AM

I don't think this is a big mistake for Napoli, because Spalletti also wanted to leave.

Leaving after winning that trophy is far better than stay with club a few more seasons and failing to get the title. Maybe Spalletti also thought of this, as we know, there are several coaches who take the same way. Zidane for example, he came out as coach of Madrid after get the title, as far as I remember Rijkaard did the same (CMIIW). Of course going after get the champion title will get a positive impression.

Actually, Spalletti have personal reason why leaving Napoli after success winning scudetto last season although Napoli have impressive performance not only in domestic league but also in Champion League. Spalletti has good reputation although leaving Napoli because he won tittles before leaving teams and the same did by Zidane after success with Real Madrid. But problem for Napoli will be success for defending their domestic league tittle next season after leaving by many key players and Kim Min-jae has leaves Napoli for joining Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: masulum on July 19, 2023, 08:06:11 AM

Leaving after winning that trophy is far better than stay with club a few more seasons and failing to get the title. Maybe Spalletti also thought of this, as we know, there are several coaches who take the same way. Zidane for example, he came out as coach of Madrid after get the title, as far as I remember Rijkaard did the same (CMIIW). Of course going after get the champion title will get a positive impression.

Leaving after winning a Trophy left a lasting impression on the Club, but in Spalletti case it was a different story. Why survive if the squad that has been built for years to reach the Scudetto won't last, one by one the star players in the squad are let go by Napoli management with the classic reason to finance the club.

Spalletti had to start building the squad again from scratch, it makes sense now why he stopped and chose to rest for a while. He is a great coach and should be appreciated by football lovers.

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There are several names who recommended by Rudi Garcia as the replacement of Kim Min-Jae which moved to Bayern Munich and they are Konstantinos Mavropanos from Stuttgart, Wolves player Max Kilman and Sociedad player Robin Le Normand but apparently Rudi Garcia was more prefer to gets Mavropanos this because he has cheap price because Mavropanos market value is only 10 millions and it's very cheap compared to Max Kilman and Le Normand which is these players has market value 40 millions and from quality too Mavropanos is quite good and at Stuttgart Mavropanos is important player and he has playing 34 times in all competitions with Stuttgart but he has through an poor season with this team because Stuttgart last season almost be relegated because they only can able to finish at 16th place

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Quote from: masulum on July 19, 2023, 08:06:11 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 19, 2023, 06:59:01 AM

I don't think this is a big mistake for Napoli, because Spalletti also wanted to leave.

Leaving after winning that trophy is far better than stay with club a few more seasons and failing to get the title. Maybe Spalletti also thought of this

Considering that players who previously strengthened Napoli also left, and there was rumours that Napoli would sell other key players in the transfer market, this made Spalletti decision more unanimous to leave Napoli. As you said Leaving after winning that trophy yes is far better, because indeed him service that will be remembered by all people especially their fans rather than leaving when don't get any trophy, although there is still a possibility they will win again but maybe Spalletti doubts that.

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Quote from: babo on July 19, 2023, 08:21:54 AM

Quote from: uswa56 on July 19, 2023, 08:20:34 AM

Spalletti's departure will certainly have a huge impact on them for next season and the exit of several key players will greatly affect the team's performance. Napoli showed quite a good performance last season so that everyone hopes that the new Napoli coach can continue this performance, thus creating high expectations and in my opinion it is very unlikely in his first season and also possible because these high expectations burden this team, especially the coach new Napoli Rudi Garcia.

a real stupid choice, a good coach and a calm person
I don't understand how they had to fight but it seems really surreal to me
throwing away a combination that works for me is a waste, but unfortunately not everyone has logic

We probably can't predict anything about Napoli this season with the new coach Rudi Garcia, it's not easy to adapt quickly for a coach by setting the strategy he wants let alone having to look at the quality of the players and match the strategy, I think maybe we'll see if there is a match Napoli in pre-season how will they maintain the quality of their game.

I'm not sure they will consistently play like last season, of course there will be differences in strategy and play, I know that it is clear that it is difficult to maintain what the previous coach Spalletti built to play this season. especially if there are players who also leave Napoli and are filled with new players, it takes more time for players to adapt on the field.

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Quote from: masulum on July 19, 2023, 08:06:11 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 19, 2023, 06:59:01 AM

I don't think this is a big mistake for Napoli, because Spalletti also wanted to leave.

Leaving after winning that trophy is far better than stay with club a few more seasons and failing to get the title. Maybe Spalletti also thought of this, as we know, there are several coaches who take the same way. Zidane for example, he came out as coach of Madrid after get the title, as far as I remember Rijkaard did the same (CMIIW). Of course going after get the champion title will get a positive impression.

Yeah right. Deciding to leave when we were in our heyday was a wise thing. because people will continue to know us in good standing. well it looks like Spalleti certainly also thought about that. And he also has old age. so his decision to quit coaching was pretty good too. because he said he wanted to spend more time with his daughter. because maybe all this time he was too busy and didn't have much time to be with the family he loved.

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Quote from: uswa56 on July 19, 2023, 08:20:34 AM

Spalletti's departure will certainly have a huge impact on them for next season and the exit of several key players will greatly affect the team's performance. Napoli showed quite a good performance last season so that everyone hopes that the new Napoli coach can continue this performance, thus creating high expectations and in my opinion it is very unlikely in his first season and also possible because these high expectations burden this team, especially the coach new Napoli Rudi Garcia.

a real stupid choice, a good coach and a calm person
I don't understand how they had to fight but it seems really surreal to me
throwing away a combination that works for me is a waste, but unfortunately not everyone has logic

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Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

yes what you say is true, he has had a long line of victories
he imposed the pace on teams that were perhaps tired and not in perfect physical shape (see Juventus, see Milan)
she had the right amount of cunning, luck and strength that made her win the championship

I think Lazio or Inter could be that team next season. I think that Napoli will not be able to show the same good result after the big changes. Maybe Juventus after last season can also show great results, especially after they didn't qualify for the Champions League. I'm sure there will be a lot of competition between the top clubs.

The biggest change is when they let go of their coach, after all what they achieved last season was thanks to the coach's strategy that went with what was expected, plus their players support to be able to implement the strategy directed by their coach.
I'm sure many were surprised by Spalletti's departure, because what he achieved last season was extraordinary. Despite their failure in the Champions League, everyone must have been impressed with their performances in Serie A. I don't think this is a big mistake for Napoli, because Spalletti also wanted to leave.

Spalletti's departure will certainly have a huge impact on them for next season and the exit of several key players will greatly affect the team's performance. Napoli showed quite a good performance last season so that everyone hopes that the new Napoli coach can continue this performance, thus creating high expectations and in my opinion it is very unlikely in his first season and also possible because these high expectations burden this team, especially the coach new Napoli Rudi Garcia.

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Quote from: asriloni on July 18, 2023, 11:23:20 AM

I just read the news about ronaldo claimed that if he was the main reason serie a gets back its popularity among the football fans again. He has said that if serie already dead once he was coming to the juventus, but he made serie is going up again and gained its popularity that already lost.
Do you guys agree with ronaldo's effect? The same thing is also happening when he was coming to the saudi pro league. More and more people were talking about SPL. SPL has become the most popular middle east league as for now.
It's quite difficult to say that if ronaldo doesn't bring impact to the league where he will be playing on. My main concern is ronaldo has biggest fan bases in the world. That makes sense if he said that if he was the main reason why serie a can survive till now.
It's caused by serie a way dead once he was coming tot he juventus. I do know that if his haters will be saying big NO for ronaldo's effect, especially messi fans.

The fact that if his supporter will always be folloing him where ronaldo will be going on. Ronaldo's effect is real to me.

First, I think Ronaldo's effect feels very real, but if his statement was when Serie A was dead as soon as he came to Juventus, I don't agree with that. How can the best league number 3 be said like that and if to add to the popularity of this league of course it is thanks to his arrival at Juventus, but if he says Serie A is dead it feels like an exaggeration. I think it's okay for him to be proud of the current saudi league where he plays football but to say another league with unclear facts is not appropriate.

On the other hand, he is an experienced player and always sees developments around him, therefore he could say that. Well, regardless of whatever statement he says, hopefully this can be a strong warning for Serie A itself to improve all existing structures, especially for teams that often get into trouble.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 19, 2023, 06:59:01 AM

I don't think this is a big mistake for Napoli, because Spalletti also wanted to leave.

Leaving after winning that trophy is far better than stay with club a few more seasons and failing to get the title. Maybe Spalletti also thought of this, as we know, there are several coaches who take the same way. Zidane for example, he came out as coach of Madrid after get the title, as far as I remember Rijkaard did the same (CMIIW). Of course going after get the champion title will get a positive impression.

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The board of directors picked a new replacement for Luciano Spalleti, which is a significant loss for them. Napoli has no difficulties because the primary players remain with them; nothing has changed. The only thing that will perplexed fans and players is the selection of a new coach, because no one is familiar with Rudi Garcia's style. They liked Luciano Spalleti, but he resigned since he had more primary goals to catch up on, and he couldn't compromised his position to meet up, so he resigned and focused on his primary goal. The Seria A is definitely going to be competitive, as usual, the best team wins.

This season Napoli have only lost one important player in defense Kim Min jae who moved to bayern munich but I think this is not a problem
Rudi Garcia has quite a lot of experience as a manager there is no need to doubt its capacity previously he had also handled AS Roma 2013/16
Based on his coaching history, at least he has handled 5 elite clubs in several leagues SerieA, Ligue1 and Saudi Pro League that should be more than enough.

I agree that Rudi Garcia does have a lot of experience. And one of them is that he was once a coach of AS Roma. And now all Napoli Fans certainly feel the same anxiety about the Napoli club. namely whether Napoli will consistently maintain its performance like last season, namely when it was still coached by Spalletti or will it experience a setback under the new coaching, namely Rudi Garcia. Everyone still can't say more about Rudi Garcia. But I'm still curious about Napoli's back line. I forgot to find out about Has Napoli found a suitable player to replace the position left by Kim Min Jae? I forgot about this. Maybe someone knows about this?

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Quote from: asriloni on July 18, 2023, 11:23:20 AM

I just read the news about ronaldo claimed that if he was the main reason serie a gets back its popularity among the football fans again. He has said that if serie already dead once he was coming to the juventus, but he made serie is going up again and gained its popularity that already lost.
Do you guys agree with ronaldo's effect? The same thing is also happening when he was coming to the saudi pro league. More and more people were talking about SPL. SPL has become the most popular middle east league as for now.
It's quite difficult to say that if ronaldo doesn't bring impact to the league where he will be playing on. My main concern is ronaldo has biggest fan bases in the world. That makes sense if he said that if he was the main reason why serie a can survive till now.
It's caused by serie a way dead once he was coming tot he juventus. I do know that if his haters will be saying big NO for ronaldo's effect, especially messi fans.

The fact that if his supporter will always be folloing him where ronaldo will be going on. Ronaldo's effect is real to me.

I don't know if his statement is one part of another statement that the leagues in Europe are starting to experience a decline except for the English Premier League, and the Saudi Pro League is one that is starting to be taken into account, for some reason now he is also a spokesperson for the Saudi Pro League although not officially trying to say bad things about the leagues in Europe and keep saying the SPL has increased, but to be honest I don't care about all his words.

Serie A has indeed experienced a dark period when many cases emerged which even made many matches filled only with recorded sound so that the audience could see it, but slowly they made many improvements, but apart from the many scandals at big clubs in Serie A the development of football in Italy to be one of the best when judged by the achievements of their national team, even when Serie A clubs find it difficult to compete in European competition but the Italian national team has won the 2020 European Cup which held in 2021, so isn't it great when their league looks dead but can build a strong national team, and other countries should learn from Italy how can they do it.

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Quote from: fzkto on July 19, 2023, 06:31:33 AM

Quote from: babo on July 18, 2023, 11:09:20 AM

Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 09:28:56 AM

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

yes what you say is true, he has had a long line of victories
he imposed the pace on teams that were perhaps tired and not in perfect physical shape (see Juventus, see Milan)
she had the right amount of cunning, luck and strength that made her win the championship

I think Lazio or Inter could be that team next season. I think that Napoli will not be able to show the same good result after the big changes. Maybe Juventus after last season can also show great results, especially after they didn't qualify for the Champions League. I'm sure there will be a lot of competition between the top clubs.

The biggest change is when they let go of their coach, after all what they achieved last season was thanks to the coach's strategy that went with what was expected, plus their players support to be able to implement the strategy directed by their coach.
I'm sure many were surprised by Spalletti's departure, because what he achieved last season was extraordinary. Despite their failure in the Champions League, everyone must have been impressed with their performances in Serie A. I don't think this is a big mistake for Napoli, because Spalletti also wanted to leave.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on July 19, 2023, 06:08:31 AM

For now I don't expect a significant level of change for Napoli considering this season. It is only up to how strong bond will be created between the players and Rudi Garcia now. Because if we look at the situation from the game plan aspect there isn't significant difference between Rudi Garcia and Spalletti.

They have almost the same understanding of game plan. Even the formations they use mostly are like the same. Rudi Garcia's having a history in the Serie A with Roma is also a plus for Napoli and him both. His times with Roma in the Serie A were pretty good too.

For now I'm expecting Napoli continue to be competitive for the league title.

I think indirectly Napoli will face quite a tough challenge for next season. The first factor that became the reason was the breakup with coach Spalletti, he was the actor in Napoli's rise to become the Scudetto last season. Even though Rudi Garcia has experience coaching other Serie A clubs in the past period such as AS Roma, in fact there are several things that need to be underlined between the two. Their favorite formation is very much different, 4-2-3-1 is Rudi Garcia's favorite formation, while Spalletti runs a 4-3-3 formation. It's not a big problem, but the depth of the Napoli squad will need to adapt to the new scheme.

If both players and coaches can adapt quickly then luck will come to them, so they can maintain a positive trend in every game. However, the departure of several star players has added to the homework. For Rudi Garcia at this time, he must find a replacement for Kim Min Jae who went to Munchen. It is also possible that other Napoli players will leave at the end of the transfer market this summer.

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