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Quote from: emrecemsan on July 18, 2023, 03:26:22 PM

I don't doubt the Vlahovic deal between Juventus and PSG thinking of the player's own good. Because those fans did the same to Lucas Hernandez as well but he has joined PSG anyway. There is no problem at all for him now. The same thing should be happening for Vlahovic as well. He seems eager to join PSG so none of the sides has worries about this situation.

Juventus had better start looking for an alternative. But oh, actually they have already found the replacement who is Lukaku. Grin

Vlahovic wasn't fitting Allegri's system very well. Maybe things can go well with Lukaku and he wouldn't bother not being a part of Inter anymore.

I would be really surprised if in the end Lukaku became part of Juventus. Lukaku has played for Inter and has been an important player at Inter for several seasons, but Inter were unable to get him after Chelsea appeared to refuse the value of the contract. But this kind of incident has happened many times in various leagues, so I guess some people won't be too surprised by the move.

Dušan Vlahovic might be the right fit for PSG and won't need to hold back on gaining experience in other leagues. PSG want him because they could potentially lose Mbappe in less than a season from now, but PSG fans seem to reject his presence. But anyway, PSG is worth considering even though Dušan Vlahovic doesn't have a high goal stat as a forward.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 18, 2023, 09:26:03 AM

I don't agree at all, Inter Milan had bad a performance at the start of the last season and they were unable and that's why we saw a huge gap between Inter Milan and Napoli this season and Inter Milan couldn't race with Napoli while time after time in the last weeks of the season Inter Milan had better performance and they even played in the final match of the champions league and there is the same story for Roma, however, Roma was a bit unlucky otherwise they could win the title and beat Sevilla.

It's true that Inter milan didn't play too well at the start of last season where they struggled to find their best form, even in that situation many of their players suffered injuries which made them difficult in their matches at the start of last season. So it's only natural to see the wide gap in points between Inter Milan and Napoli at the end of last season's competition. For me inter milan is a team that is building their foundation to be stronger in Serie A and last season was their season to build a team.

I think this season, to be precise, after Inter Milan finished runners up in the Champions League, their motivation became stronger for Serie A or the Champions League this season. The signing of the players has done quite well even though in this case they have lost an important player in the squad in this season transfer window but I am sure that Inter Milan will be a team to be reckoned with in Serie A next season.

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Quote from: Davian144 on July 18, 2023, 03:39:20 PM

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Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

Next season it is very likely that there will be a difference in terms of title competition in Serie A, but Napoli will also try their best strategy to be able to get several wins since the start of the season even though the coach is different for next season. But each coach will also study and see how the previous Napoli team performed so that they can apply the things that Napoli previously needed next season. But I'm also sure that the competition will be very different next season and it won't be easy for anyone.

Napoli were so strong last season coming out ontop of their league,they had a very good squad and if they can still retain those players at the team,they can still lift the trophy again despite how other teams try to strengthen their team.They have a very good striker in Osimhen who can deliver atleast 20 goals and above every season,and keeping him at the club will be very important if they are still eager to win the tittle back to back,but I just think it will be a little bit difficult for them if their main striker should leave.Whereas Vlahovic has not been that successful at his Juventus,and that may just be the reason why he is seeking a move to PSG so he can try to regain his form at a new team and under a new coach.I can't wait to see how the new season will look like and the team that will come out ontop this season,but I still back Napoli to retain their tittle.

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Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 09:28:56 AM

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

I would be surprised if there is no strong competition in the Serie A next season. All the clubs are reinforcing in their own way and what makes it spectacular is that no team looks ridiculously higher than the other in terms of squad quality. I think the Serie A is the only league that you can't guess two teams that will win the league next season and be 90% correct.
Juventus, Roma, Napoli, Ac Milan, Inter Milan all look like teams that are ready to fight for the league.
The top of the league might not be like it was last season where Napoli ran away with the league. If all the teams are in good form from the beginning of the season then it's going be very competitive. Last season Napoli was the only team that was in that kind of form from the beginning of the season.

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Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 09:28:56 AM

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

Next season it is very likely that there will be a difference in terms of title competition in Serie A, but Napoli will also try their best strategy to be able to get several wins since the start of the season even though the coach is different for next season. But each coach will also study and see how the previous Napoli team performed so that they can apply the things that Napoli previously needed next season. But I'm also sure that the competition will be very different next season and it won't be easy for anyone.

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I don't doubt the Vlahovic deal between Juventus and PSG thinking of the player's own good. Because those fans did the same to Lucas Hernandez as well but he has joined PSG anyway. There is no problem at all for him now. The same thing should be happening for Vlahovic as well. He seems eager to join PSG so none of the sides has worries about this situation.

Juventus had better start looking for an alternative. But oh, actually they have already found the replacement who is Lukaku. Grin

Vlahovic wasn't fitting Allegri's system very well. Maybe things can go well with Lukaku and he wouldn't bother not being a part of Inter anymore.

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Quote from: babo on July 18, 2023, 11:09:20 AM

Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 09:28:56 AM

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

yes what you say is true, he has had a long line of victories
he imposed the pace on teams that were perhaps tired and not in perfect physical shape (see Juventus, see Milan)
she had the right amount of cunning, luck and strength that made her win the championship

Napoli really played consistently from the start of the season to the end of the season and they didn't waste the opportunity, of course with solid players they could also find their best style of play last season so they couldn't be held back. that's why Luciano Spalletti always manages to make the best strategy for Napoli to keep winning consistently.

The departure of Luciano Spalletti will probably make Napoli's strength change a little this season because Rudi Garcia, who replaced him, must be able to adapt and be able to maintain Napoli's consistency in terms of the strength they have maintained like last season. although I'm not so sure of course it's very hard for Rudi Garcia to bring Napoli back to win the league this season.

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Quote from: harapan on July 17, 2023, 05:12:08 PM

I doubt the Vlahovic to PSG transfer would still work.
I saw a news report today where some PSG ultras help up a banner than said something like like "if Vlahovic goes to Paris they will cut off three of his fingers"
Details of the report said the issue came from a time when Vlahovic made a certain celebration after scoring or whatever. I don't know how serious that might be, but things like this can be serious enough for the player or the club or both parties to start having second thoughts.
Juventus wants to sell Vlahovic because they need to sell to balance their books and they need money. It's not because they don't need him any more. I believe it they get Lukaku they would sell Kean.

Yes, I read about this in the news today, these threats have a political connotation, whatever it was, but I can say that Vlahovic is unlikely to play for PSG. Chelsea wanted to take Valchovich on one seasone, but Juventus are not happy with that because they want to sell him to complete the deal with Lukaku. Vlahovic is a good striker, but he doesn't seem to be in as much demand as Juventus wants.

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Quote from: hahay on July 18, 2023, 10:39:11 AM

Basically, if Juventus didn't drop points then Juventus could have been a tough competitor for Napoli but unfortunately, Juventus lost their ambition to catch Napoli because they had a bad case. But even though Napoli can dominate Serie A last season, at least I don't conclude the other teams are bad because after all, such inconsistencies are very natural. Also regarding Roma and Inter for me both remain good because after all, when one team cannot get maximum results in the local league then of course they can be more optimal in other competitions or tournaments. So yes, Roma and Inter still had good performance and results last season and for next season, of course we will expect a more competitive competition in the top zone.

The funniest thing about this is that they think this is a punishment only for Juventus and not for anyone else. But they are forgetting that instead of Juventus who was good enough to go, someone else who would not normally go but will go because of this will be attending these games.

This could end up with a result that is not as good, not saying that it will be, but there is a potential for it. Why not have the best team? Why have the team that will be lesser? In the end, I bet that Juventus will come back and win and be a lot better, and these teams will not be as good as people think, which will result with Juventus basically priding themselves for coming back while other teams will feel humiliated for not beating a team that's coming back from this trouble.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 18, 2023, 09:26:03 AM

I don't agree at all, Inter Milan had bad a performance at the start of the last season and they were unable and that's why we saw a huge gap between Inter Milan and Napoli this season and Inter Milan couldn't race with Napoli while time after time in the last weeks of the season Inter Milan had better performance and they even played in the final match of the champions league and there is the same story for Roma, however, Roma was a bit unlucky otherwise they could win the title and beat Sevilla.

It's true that Inter were very far behind at that time with Napoli and moreover Inter had lost a lot to weak teams that they should have been able to beat easily. But indeed, no one suspected something like this, even at that time I often lost money when betting on Inter's win. It looks like next season this will still happen for Inter and it is very likely that Napoli won't be the same as last season considering there are many things they have to fix with their new coach. I'm actually quite curious about what Juventus will display next season and maybe they can start little by little to try to reach the top place that has long been lost.

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Quote from: hahay on July 18, 2023, 10:39:11 AM

Basically, if Juventus didn't drop points then Juventus could have been a tough competitor for Napoli but unfortunately, Juventus lost their ambition to catch Napoli because they had a bad case. But even though Napoli can dominate Serie A last season, at least I don't conclude the other teams are bad because after all, such inconsistencies are very natural. Also regarding Roma and Inter for me both remain good because after all, when one team cannot get maximum results in the local league then of course they can be more optimal in other competitions or tournaments. So yes, Roma and Inter still had good performance and results last season and for next season, of course we will expect a more competitive competition in the top zone.

I see the difficulty of predicting the favorite club to win in Serie A, because normally we predict the winner from the team's performance. Meanwhile, another fact that is happening now is the case scandal that ensnared Juventus management which resulted in deducting the points obtained from the results of the match. So how well the team performs does not guarantee a club will win if the management breaks the rules. Napoli were able to dominate Serie A last season because Juventus were being hit by problems, next season history like this might happen again. So that makes it very difficult for us to predict the strongest candidate to win the Scudetto.

If next season goes as normal Inter Milan, AS Roma, Napoli and AC Milan are at the forefront of winning the Scudetto, I personally favor AS Roma because of Jose Mourinho.

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I just read the news about ronaldo claimed that if he was the main reason serie a gets back its popularity among the football fans again. He has said that if serie already dead once he was coming to the juventus, but he made serie is going up again and gained its popularity that already lost.
Do you guys agree with ronaldo's effect? The same thing is also happening when he was coming to the saudi pro league. More and more people were talking about SPL. SPL has become the most popular middle east league as for now.
It's quite difficult to say that if ronaldo doesn't bring impact to the league where he will be playing on. My main concern is ronaldo has biggest fan bases in the world. That makes sense if he said that if he was the main reason why serie a can survive till now.
It's caused by serie a way dead once he was coming tot he juventus. I do know that if his haters will be saying big NO for ronaldo's effect, especially messi fans.

The fact that if his supporter will always be folloing him where ronaldo will be going on. Ronaldo's effect is real to me.

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Quote from: masulum on July 18, 2023, 10:46:24 AM

Well, Morata has made headlines in the Serie-A transfer market since last week. The last, what I read from romapress.net, this media stated that based on information from journalist Augusto Ciardi, Roma and Morata had reached a personal agreement. Currently the negotiation process is still being carried out with Atletico. I do not know whether Icardi's statement will be as valid as Romano's or not. We'll see how the transfer will be within a week from now, maybe there will be a clear news about the Morata transfer process.

^{News: https://romapress.net/alvaro-morata-agrees-to-terms-with-roma/}

thank you very much for this information
The news you deliver is great news for Roma and its passionate fans

I am very sure that he will do very well for Roma, a great team in the Italian league

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Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 09:28:56 AM

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

yes what you say is true, he has had a long line of victories
he imposed the pace on teams that were perhaps tired and not in perfect physical shape (see Juventus, see Milan)
she had the right amount of cunning, luck and strength that made her win the championship

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Quote from: fuguebtc on July 17, 2023, 02:54:30 PM

They are just too much about his transfer recently. I don't know if it is going to be a good idea to trust the media right now with his transfer Because the media can certainly say a lot of things which might not be true. I also heard that he was going to Inter Milan. But now I am not sure. I also do not see any official news as of now. So I actually cannot say anything for sure.

But I can say that it will probably not be the best idea for him to go to Roma. First of all, he might have to take less salary. He will also have competition in Roma. For the player, it will probably be best if he goes to Milan in my opinion. Because the club needs strikers right now. So it will probably be the best decision for him. But being the main striker also brings in the burden of performance.

Well, Morata has made headlines in the Serie-A transfer market since last week. The last, what I read from romapress.net, this media stated that based on information from journalist Augusto Ciardi, Roma and Morata had reached a personal agreement. Currently the negotiation process is still being carried out with Atletico. I do not know whether Icardi's statement will be as valid as Romano's or not. We'll see how the transfer will be within a week from now, maybe there will be a clear news about the Morata transfer process.

^{News: https://romapress.net/alvaro-morata-agrees-to-terms-with-roma/}

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About Roma, I agree with you. They didn't do well in Serie A, but they played in the Europa League final. This is already a good result for them. I don't agree about Inter. They did very well in Serie A and played in the Champions League final no worse than Manchester City. It's just that Napoli didn't give anyone a chance in Italy this season, so it seems that the other clubs played badly.

this season in Serie A maybe only Napoli are playing consistently. whereas other strong teams such as Juventus, Inter, Milan, and Roma tend to play inconsistently. we cannot guarantee Napoli's game will be the same this season as last season. what is clear is that there are several players who have come and also moved into the transfer market this summer. so we can't measure the strength of each team last season. what is clear is that this season we definitely want to see how Serie A becomes even more competitive with solid teams.

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

Basically, if Juventus didn't drop points then Juventus could have been a tough competitor for Napoli but unfortunately, Juventus lost their ambition to catch Napoli because they had a bad case. But even though Napoli can dominate Serie A last season, at least I don't conclude the other teams are bad because after all, such inconsistencies are very natural. Also regarding Roma and Inter for me both remain good because after all, when one team cannot get maximum results in the local league then of course they can be more optimal in other competitions or tournaments. So yes, Roma and Inter still had good performance and results last season and for next season, of course we will expect a more competitive competition in the top zone.

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Quote from: Awaklara on July 18, 2023, 08:45:30 AM

Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 08:37:58 AM

About Roma, I agree with you. They didn't do well in Serie A, but they played in the Europa League final. This is already a good result for them. I don't agree about Inter. They did very well in Serie A and played in the Champions League final no worse than Manchester City. It's just that Napoli didn't give anyone a chance in Italy this season, so it seems that the other clubs played badly.

this season in Serie A maybe only Napoli are playing consistently. whereas other strong teams such as Juventus, Inter, Milan, and Roma tend to play inconsistently. we cannot guarantee Napoli's game will be the same this season as last season. what is clear is that there are several players who have come and also moved into the transfer market this summer. so we can't measure the strength of each team last season. what is clear is that this season we definitely want to see how Serie A becomes even more competitive with solid teams.

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

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PSG is interested in signing Dušan Vlahović. I think we will see Dušan Vlahović with PSG next season. And that would certainly be good for both Dušan Vlahović and PSG. Dušan Vlahović may become more experienced with PSG coach Luis Enrique.

Yes, if Dusan Vlahovi joined to PSG maybe will get more experience under Enrique leadership. Also at there is not too competitive as Serie A, there is a possibility he will be shine a lot more. But unfortunately, it seems PSG plans are not going to go smoothly, I read the news today in the local media that the most influential fan group in paris made open warning, it was horrible. You can see here, (twitter juve_canal). With that warning, I think it seems like Dusan Vlahovic would not be interested in joining PSG.

How PSG management will build their squad for next season is still in the dark. With Messi and Mbappe gone, their attack will be weak. Now we are not sure if PSG will have a long-term plan with Luis Enrique or if they will spend big money and buy experienced players again. But PSG should plan for the long term. Because the PSG management has not got the expected performance despite spending a lot of money in the last few years. Luis Enrique will be able to build a strong and stable team in the next 2-1 years if he builds the team with young talented players.

Previously, Chelsea and MU were considered the ideal destination for Vlahovic. However, the delay of the two Premier League giants forced PSG to step in and quickly make a big step in this deal. PSG's job now is to close the transfer price with Juventus. The Turin team wants to earn 70-80 million euros from the sale of Vlahovic. If Vlahovic leaves, Juventus will likely recruit Romelu Lukaku to replace him.

PSG fans want the club to appoint a French coach and sign local stars. Therefore, Enrique faces a difficult task. As happened many times in the previous season, PSG fans repeatedly protested. They criticized and mocked Messi and Neymar right at the Parc des Princes and even went to the houses of these stars. Only success and titles can help Enrique and his teammates win the hearts of the fans.

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Inter Milan have fared better than AS Roma last season. But the saddest part is that the team failed to secure the Champions League title. Inter Milan is doing great to correct the mistakes of the team and add some players for next season.

Intermilan and as roma doing bad last season. These clubs unable to win UEL and UCL. All of serie candidates lost in the final. It's very heard to repeat such moment again. As roma is not adding a lot of players but intermilan has sold so many players during summer transfer. I doubt if intermilan will able to perform same like previous season. So many important players were leaving from the club. There will be a lot of change gonna happen in the club.

I doubt if intermilan will able to compete in UCL again. The new players need to adapt with the new environment as soon as possible. Intermilan has no dzeko, onana even lukaku next season.
Brozovic has been leaving from the club too.

I don't agree at all, Inter Milan had bad a performance at the start of the last season and they were unable and that's why we saw a huge gap between Inter Milan and Napoli this season and Inter Milan couldn't race with Napoli while time after time in the last weeks of the season Inter Milan had better performance and they even played in the final match of the champions league and there is the same story for Roma, however, Roma was a bit unlucky otherwise they could win the title and beat Sevilla.

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But it is interesting now to see what steps Chelsea will take after overhauling a lot of players who were just released. with the fresh funds they have from the sale actually Vlahovic is also still possible to bring in but as you said, there are several other options about this although it is likely that Vlahovic is one of the players prioritized.
Besides, some news about the exchange of Vlahovic and Lukaku is also still quite busy at this time so this can also be used as one of the good and mutually beneficial options for them

By selling some players to Saudi clubs and got big money from them, Chelsea have good transfer budget and no longer have to worry about financial observation and investigation from UEFA against their club finance. It might come back in future but in this summer, they are good and can enjoy this transfer season to rebuild their team.

Between Lukaku and Vlahovic, Vlahovic is younger and can be useful for Chelsea so it is good for them if they can complete the deal with Juventus. I still don't think Juventus will be ready to lose Vlahovic because they know that striker is younger and has a longer career than Lukaku.

Chelsea has the opportunity to generate income by offloading players, as they possess talented individuals who may not be performing at their best for the club. These players, although not currently shining for Chelsea, have the potential to excel in other teams. Hence, by transferring them to other clubs, Chelsea can acquire new players. However, the catch is that they must part ways with these individuals.

Getting Vlahović instead of Lukaku seems like the wiser choice. Lukaku, the drama-seeking player, is unwanted by clubs due to his dramatic tendencies. Vlahović, on the other hand, offers better value for money.

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