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Quote from: Doell on June 25, 2023, 10:24:40 AM

There is rumors Al-Nassr want to sign Marcelo Brozović from Inter Milan, and it seems like these rumors will happen because Inter Milan needs a big amount of funds to buy a lot of players too. Actually, this player is also being targeted by the Barcelona club, but it looks like Barcelona doesn't have enough money to compete with Al Nassr, because I think we know how powerful the Saudi Pro League money is. Brozovic as far as I know this guy was player key for Inter Milan last season, him helping them winning the Coppa Italia, Supercoppa Italiana, as well as reach the final of the UCL.

The competition between Barcelona and Al-nassr for Marcelo Brozović is actually still quite fierce. In terms of salary per year, maybe Al-Nassr has excelled. Because Al-nassr has offered a salary of 15 million Euros per year. Meanwhile, Barcelona only offers 7 million Euros per year.

But in terms of the transfer price from Inter Milan at this time, Barcelona is still superior. Because Inter Milan only allowed the player at a price of 25 million Euros. And Barcelona has made an offer of 20 million euros. Meanwhile, Al-Nassr does not seem to have made a higher offer, that is currently Al-Nassr's offer is only 18 million euros. And it will still depend on Marcelo Brozović whether he plays for a higher reputation at Barcelona. or he wants to play for a higher salary at Al-Nassr. all have their advantages in this regard.

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Quote from: shogun47 on June 25, 2023, 10:06:36 AM

It is always good to get the facts straight.

The 15 points deduction penalty was officially awarded on January 20th, 2023. On that date Napoli stood at 47 points in the table whereas Juventus Turin was at 37 points, making it a 10 points gap already before the penalty was announced. Napoli almost played a perfect season and outplayed the rest of the field including Juventus. I doubt that even without the penalty at that point Juventus would have had a chance to close that gap. I am now even less optimistic for Juventus next season as I don't see many reasons why they should improve significantly.

Yes, the penalty made Juventus lose its best moment this season because if it is not affected by a reduction in points, it is very likely that Juventus will play in the Champions League next season. After seeing the developments that have occurred in the transfer window I think there are no good quality players brought in by Juventus so I predict that Juventus will dominate next season more with the existing squad. In fact, on another issue, speculation arose that the Juventus coach would leave for the Saudi Arabian league team, where Al Nassr really wanted to bring Allegri to be their new coach. So there is a bigger gap for Juventus next season if Allegri leaves because he really understands the character of his players.

In fact, I think Juventus might find it difficult to provide a stronger resistance next season to other teams in the race for the Scudetto title because Inter Milan is currently the strongest team which can be seen from the depth of their squad.

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Quote from: harapan on June 25, 2023, 02:50:40 PM

The thing about Lukaku is that you don't know the team that might fit his style of play. You might think he won't do well in Milan but the opposite might be the case.
Lukaku is not a bad striker. I feel his major problem is confidence. If Lukaku has the confidence he can be a pretty deadly striker.
The mistake he made was leaving Inter for Chelsea in the first place. He should have just remained at Inter when he was one of the hottest strikers in the planet. Now that he's at Inter he doesn't perform much. Dzeko was even higher up the pecking order than him.
I believe Lukaku will do great at AC Milan though.

Lukaku is a possible striker for Inter Milan, but he is more interested in the Seria A rather than the Premier rather. It was one of the toughest players in the Premier League back then, especially when he was at Everton, scoring substantial goals and contributing to success of his club. He is currently a Chelsea player, however he lacks confidence on the field and is inconsistent in league games. up his first season at Chelsea, he put up a tremendous performance at Stamford Bridge, and there's no way he wouldn't have excelled in the blues' frontline. Inter Milan will merely use and discard me; they will not even raise his wages.

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Quote from: asriloni on June 25, 2023, 02:28:10 AM

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What Milan is thinking is very far from the fans' expectations and if it is true that Milan makes an offer to sign Lukaku this is definitely a setback. We know Milan have just secured around 70 million euros fresh funds after successfully selling Sandro Tonali to Newcastle and I think Milan should be able to find a much better striker than Lukaku with these funds. At Inter Lukaku has often failed to prove his worth and even though Milan started their bid at 40 million euros I don't think it was worth it and it would be better for Milan to start discussing his options again.

Lukaku's performance in intermilan was not so bad as you said. Even though lukaku has failed to bring intermilan to win UCL but his performance was quite well last season. Intermilan was winning a trophy + it has gone to the final of UCL which was a great achievement by intermilan. The only problem if lukaku never had interest to join in ac milan. Acmilan was making the wrong decision to tageting him as a new striker for the club.
I think that ac milan shall not try to take lukaku. Ac milan must have found another player that can become a new striker for ac milan upcoming season. Lukaku will never ever fit for the club. He is only wanna playing for intermilan.
Even he rejects to play for chelsea and he was only going for intermilan. Chelsea even ac milan must retain themselves in using this guy as striker.

I don't know how Lukaku has performed this Champions League season, but he played horribly in the final match... Maybe if it wasn't for his mistakes, Inter could have had a chance... Lukaku only scored 14 goals all season, just like Dzeko... Last season at Chelsea, Lukaku had a poor showing too... Maybe he was good in the past, but I can't say that now...

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Romelu Lukaku's loan contract is about to end by the end of this month. Inter don't seem like they are very interested in extending this contract or signing him permanently. Because Lukaku is far away from his old look now. He is playing really inconsistently and you know how he played a serious role in Inter's not being able to resist Manchester City more by playing extra time.

Therefore his recent performance isn't convincing enough for Inter to fight for him. They were really keen on signing him on a loan deal before because they were hoping to see the same effort from him. As you know they were a great duo with Martinez. But now there is nothing left of it.

Apart from Romelu Lukaku's unsatisfactory performance, overall the Inter Milan team is now very good, it's just that last season they were inconsistent at the start of the season.
For next season I think it is very appropriate if Inter Milan is a strong candidate to win the Scudetto.
Reaching the final of the UCL despite losing to Man City, their performance was quite good, Inter Milan is now very strong on all fronts.
So I think for next season they will only add a few new players to maintain the existing game and consistency.

Indeed Inter were just like that at the beginning. Because they had serious issues with their defending. Otherwise they were great at scoring so many goals in general. But after the returnal of the World Cup we started to watch a quite different Inter. Maybe it was too late for rejoining the title race with Napoli but this was still a significant progress.

By the way Inter are already shown as the biggest title contender by bookmakers. Even though Napoli won the title by a huge point difference and Inter didn't even finish right behind, Inter are still favoured the most to be the next champions. It is still early of course and the predictions can change quite often during the season.

Inter should focus on keeping the same ambition in themselves for next season. Keeping their squad quality at this level at least is also going to be important.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on June 25, 2023, 02:27:01 PM

I don't think Lukaku will be considered as important for Milan after he was important for rival club Inter. I don't think Milan will really wants to sign Lukaku from Chelsea as striker, even if they have the money to complete a transfer. Lukaku also doesn't seem to suit Milan's style of play, he would rather be at Inter for a long time after he was known as a dangerous striker at Inter for several seasons.

Even if Chelsea have to sell him, it is very likely that Lukaku will not be sold to Milan. There are a lot of better players than Lukaku, so Milan shouldn't be too interested in signing Lukaku.

The thing about Lukaku is that you don't know the team that might fit his style of play. You might think he won't do well in Milan but the opposite might be the case.
Lukaku is not a bad striker. I feel his major problem is confidence. If Lukaku has the confidence he can be a pretty deadly striker.
The mistake he made was leaving Inter for Chelsea in the first place. He should have just remained at Inter when he was one of the hottest strikers in the planet. Now that he's at Inter he doesn't perform much. Dzeko was even higher up the pecking order than him.
I believe Lukaku will do great at AC Milan though.

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Quote from: xzone on June 25, 2023, 02:08:18 PM

Quote from: Doell on June 25, 2023, 10:24:40 AM

There is rumors Al-Nassr want to sign Marcelo Brozović from Inter Milan, and it seems like these rumors will happen because Inter Milan needs a big amount of funds to buy a lot of players too. Actually, this player is also being targeted by the Barcelona club, but it looks like Barcelona doesn't have enough money to compete with Al Nassr, because I think we know how powerful the Saudi Pro League money is. Brozovic as far as I know this guy was player key for Inter Milan last season, him helping them winning the Coppa Italia, Supercoppa Italiana, as well as reach the final of the UCL.

If I'm not mistaken, 23 million is mentioned as the transfer fee. Barcelona may be in a better situation than in previous years due to financial problems, but I don't think they will pay that much for a 30 years old player.
Saudi Arabian teams are spending so much money right now that we can watch all players over 30 in this league in the coming years Cheesy

Actually this is all done by the saudi arabia club because they only need top players who are from europe to be able to give a strong performance for the saudi arabia club.
It doesn't matter how much it costs and how old it is, but Saudi Arabia needs top players to give popularity to the Saudi Arabian League.
So that Saudi Arabian clubs always offer very high offers and I'm sure Barcelona will not be able to compete because of the bad financial problems that Barcelona is experiencing.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on June 25, 2023, 11:17:24 AM

I doubt with Milan has enough money for signing Lukaku due should fight with Saudi Pro League team give bid for buying Lukaku from Chelsea, its seems dilemma for Lukaku position right now, he has denied for playing with Saudi Pro League teams but his previous team Chelsea want to sell him there. Right now the future from Lukaku depend on Inter Milan want to pay higher fees transfer for Chelsea or Lukaku will return back as loan option from Inter Milan. Inter should keep him stay for one year later after leaving by Edin Dzeko, Inter's attacking line only left Lutaro Martinez right now.

For Lukaku performance in this season not really bad, he has success bring Inter lead to final stage in Champion League but he got injured and absent on many game for Inter Milan.

I don't think Lukaku will be considered as important for Milan after he was important for rival club Inter. I don't think Milan will really wants to sign Lukaku from Chelsea as striker, even if they have the money to complete a transfer. Lukaku also doesn't seem to suit Milan's style of play, he would rather be at Inter for a long time after he was known as a dangerous striker at Inter for several seasons.

Even if Chelsea have to sell him, it is very likely that Lukaku will not be sold to Milan. There are a lot of better players than Lukaku, so Milan shouldn't be too interested in signing Lukaku.

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Quote from: Doell on June 25, 2023, 10:24:40 AM

There is rumors Al-Nassr want to sign Marcelo Brozović from Inter Milan, and it seems like these rumors will happen because Inter Milan needs a big amount of funds to buy a lot of players too. Actually, this player is also being targeted by the Barcelona club, but it looks like Barcelona doesn't have enough money to compete with Al Nassr, because I think we know how powerful the Saudi Pro League money is. Brozovic as far as I know this guy was player key for Inter Milan last season, him helping them winning the Coppa Italia, Supercoppa Italiana, as well as reach the final of the UCL.

If I'm not mistaken, 23 million is mentioned as the transfer fee. Barcelona may be in a better situation than in previous years due to financial problems, but I don't think they will pay that much for a 30 years old player.
Saudi Arabian teams are spending so much money right now that we can watch all players over 30 in this league in the coming years Cheesy

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Quote from: DanWalker on June 25, 2023, 12:59:35 PM

I believe Milan did the right thing. They should definitely get younger players on the team. I don’t think they should get rid of all the old players. Experience is also needed. But they definitely need young players to boost their performance for sure. The older generation is going to have a tough time keeping up against the young and fast players. If they can manage a good balance between the young and experienced generation, they will actually be able to do very well. I think this was the right decision taken by them about Eden Dzeko.

To be honest, i don't see the decision taken by Inter as good enough because if we look at Dzeko's performance statistics over the past 2 seasons, he was able to provide 31 goals in 100++ matches and that's pretty good imo, well after all young players are definitely more prioritized than a new player for reasons of physical fitness as well as enthusiasm ^{(i still respect the decision of the inter management)}
In this transfer market, it seems ^{(which is reported)} that Inter Milan will not stop with Marcus Thuram, they will add several other players, to increase Inter's attacking power and their midfield.

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Quote from: cytpoway121 on June 25, 2023, 10:41:08 AM

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Well, its a good deal for Inter Milan if Brozovic moves to Saudi for a very huge fee. At 30 years, past his prime, i believe its right time for Inter Milan to let go, cash out and get younger replacement for the Talisman. Also, With AC Milan interested in Lukaku; it is important for Inter Milan to begin to shape up their transfer market.

Inter must be even more aggressive in this transfer market, considering that they also currently do not have large enough funds to bring in top quality players. And they have to find a pretty good young player, but not too famous to get a low price. Although it's difficult actually, but previously Napoli managed to get young players at low prices too. I mean Kim Min Jae if i'm not mistaken Napoli got him at the price €18.05m, they succeeded in getting the scudetto because of his services too. As well as Kvaratskhelia, Napoli had great success in getting talented young players with low price. So I think Inter should learn from Napoli actions in the transfer market before, and I hope Inter will soon find many talented young players out there.

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Quote from: sana54210 on June 25, 2023, 11:22:03 AM

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From my little knowledge, Minal should have extended Edin Dzeko's contract. Edin Dzeko is not a young player but he is an experienced complete player. Edin Dzeko has a lot of reputation as a professional player. Edin Dzeko was a good Inter Milan striker from what I saw. I think Minal's compromise with Edin Dzeko was probably the right thing to do. Dzeko wants to make a tough history in football in the end

I think they wanted to just rebuild, because getting the same old players to give them some talent could be good but it is not sustainable. If you buy a player that is 23-25 years old, you can do it for maybe 10 years, but at 37 years old Dzeko could be good for another season maybe, but it is not sustainable, you need to start thinking about the future as well. This is why I understand them not getting him back.

Plus, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Napol, and even Roma will have a chance to fight for the top spot next season. Probably not Roma, but all the others needs to build a team that could rival everyone and without that I do not think that it would be a smart decision, it would be much smarter to keep getting better results with younger players so you can have a better future in the league.

I believe Milan did the right thing. They should definitely get younger players on the team. I don’t think they should get rid of all the old players. Experience is also needed. But they definitely need young players to boost their performance for sure. The older generation is going to have a tough time keeping up against the young and fast players. If they can manage a good balance between the young and experienced generation, they will actually be able to do very well. I think this was the right decision taken by them about Eden Dzeko.

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Quote from: speeder on June 25, 2023, 04:28:18 AM

Quote from: Doell on June 24, 2023, 01:46:34 PM

I saw that news too and yes Edin Dzeko will go to Fenerbahce on a free transfer, I wonder why Inter didn't extend his contract even though he is old but he is still quite sharp. But anyway, Dzeko already anchored to Turkish Super Lig and it is his decision. Regarding the Saudi Pro League, I think he still wants to be in the Europa zone because maybe he still wants to get a lot of achievements. But if there is an interesting offer in Saudi, I also think it will be very good for him and agree because Dzeko not young anymore.

From my little knowledge, Minal should have extended Edin Dzeko's contract. Edin Dzeko is not a young player but he is an experienced complete player. Edin Dzeko has a lot of reputation as a professional player. Edin Dzeko was a good Inter Milan striker from what I saw. I think Minal's compromise with Edin Dzeko was probably the right thing to do. Dzeko wants to make a tough history in football in the end

I think they wanted to just rebuild, because getting the same old players to give them some talent could be good but it is not sustainable. If you buy a player that is 23-25 years old, you can do it for maybe 10 years, but at 37 years old Dzeko could be good for another season maybe, but it is not sustainable, you need to start thinking about the future as well. This is why I understand them not getting him back.

Plus, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Napol, and even Roma will have a chance to fight for the top spot next season. Probably not Roma, but all the others needs to build a team that could rival everyone and without that I do not think that it would be a smart decision, it would be much smarter to keep getting better results with younger players so you can have a better future in the league.

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Quote from: asriloni on June 25, 2023, 02:28:10 AM

Lukaku's performance in intermilan was not so bad as you said. Even though lukaku has failed to bring intermilan to win UCL but his performance was quite well last season. Intermilan was winning a trophy + it has gone to the final of UCL which was a great achievement by intermilan. The only problem if lukaku never had interest to join in ac milan. Acmilan was making the wrong decision to tageting him as a new striker for the club.
I think that ac milan shall not try to take lukaku. Ac milan must have found another player that can become a new striker for ac milan upcoming season. Lukaku will never ever fit for the club. He is only wanna playing for intermilan.
Even he rejects to play for chelsea and he was only going for intermilan. Chelsea even ac milan must retain themselves in using this guy as striker.

I doubt with Milan has enough money for signing Lukaku due should fight with Saudi Pro League team give bid for buying Lukaku from Chelsea, its seems dilemma for Lukaku position right now, he has denied for playing with Saudi Pro League teams but his previous team Chelsea want to sell him there. Right now the future from Lukaku depend on Inter Milan want to pay higher fees transfer for Chelsea or Lukaku will return back as loan option from Inter Milan. Inter should keep him stay for one year later after leaving by Edin Dzeko, Inter's attacking line only left Lutaro Martinez right now.

For Lukaku performance in this season not really bad, he has success bring Inter lead to final stage in Champion League but he got injured and absent on many game for Inter Milan.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 25, 2023, 06:41:57 AM

It is still doubtful how solid Napoli will stay next season. Rudi Garcia has taken over and we don't know how many of their players who played a big role in the Serie A championship will leave this summer. But it looks like Osimhen is quite likely to stay for at least another season. Because his asking price must be around 130-140 million euros.

Napoli's president has been confirming if he will not let osimhen and kvarat to go out from the club in summer.
Napoli's president has been putting a very big wall for both of players. Another club will think for twice before try to buy their release clause. It's caused by napoli already put very high price for them all.
Im a bit skeptical about the performance from napoli under rudi garcia.

Quote from: CLS63 on June 25, 2023, 06:41:57 AM

None of the European clubs looks keen on paying that high sum of money to sign him permanently. This is good news for Napoli of course. However his contract ends in the summer of 2025 so they might need to sell him next summer in case he doesn't want to extend his contract any longer.

Napoli can at least use its top scorer in serie a last season once again. Osimhen has been confirming if EPL has become his dream but it seems like that he was not interesting to leave from napoli this year.
Next year may be different for him. Im sure some clubs will be eyeing him as a new striker.

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Quote from: Doell on June 25, 2023, 10:24:40 AM

There is rumors Al-Nassr want to sign Marcelo Brozović from Inter Milan, and it seems like these rumors will happen because Inter Milan needs a big amount of funds to buy a lot of players too. Actually, this player is also being targeted by the Barcelona club, but it looks like Barcelona doesn't have enough money to compete with Al Nassr, because I think we know how powerful the Saudi Pro League money is. Brozovic as far as I know this guy was player key for Inter Milan last season, him helping them winning the Coppa Italia, Supercoppa Italiana, as well as reach the final of the UCL.

Well, its a good deal for Inter Milan if Brozovic moves to Saudi for a very huge fee. At 30 years, past his prime, i believe its right time for Inter Milan to let go, cash out and get younger replacement for the Talisman. Also, With AC Milan interested in Lukaku; it is important for Inter Milan to begin to shape up their transfer market.

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There is rumors Al-Nassr want to sign Marcelo Brozović from Inter Milan, and it seems like these rumors will happen because Inter Milan needs a big amount of funds to buy a lot of players too. Actually, this player is also being targeted by the Barcelona club, but it looks like Barcelona doesn't have enough money to compete with Al Nassr, because I think we know how powerful the Saudi Pro League money is. Brozovic as far as I know this guy was player key for Inter Milan last season, him helping them winning the Coppa Italia, Supercoppa Italiana, as well as reach the final of the UCL.

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Yes, this one player will not be at Inter Milan next season, and I think that will be a good decision for Inter Milan, because this one player is really slow now. It's time for Inter Milan to have an attacker who has speed in my opinion. Learning from the matches in the Champions League, they lacked players with speed, so some of the counter-attacks they carried out had to run aground, because Manchester City could quickly close up the available space.

Inter has been completing marcus thuram's transfer. He just need to have done with medical check up before he will be officially announced by intermilan as a new player for the club. It seems like that thuram will be replacing lukaku as a partnerfor lautaro martinez next season. I hope that he will able to perform better in intermilan compared when he was playing for his old club. Chelsea is not giving approval for intermilan to take lukaku as loan again.
The club will only sell him to the arabian club. Intermilan can try to sell onana and used money from selling onana to buy lukaku as permanent transfer but i doubt if intermilan will do that.

This is interesting because previously I read some reports that Marcus Thuram was linked with Milan but indeed Inter managed to sign this player and the media probably didn't get too much attention because I had never heard of anything before Cheesy

On the other hand, this is also a good decision because in this case, losing Dzeko to being replaced by Thuram who is much younger is of course very good. But for now at least they have to find another addition because Lukaku is also certain to leave and with this condition, they at least need one more striker as an option if Lautaro and Thuram cannot play.
Lukaku is still too expensive and allows him to go back to Chelsea even though at Chelsea he will immediately enter the sales list.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 25, 2023, 09:20:23 AM

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Lukaku may join Milan, after Inter almost bought Thuram which was a Milan target for fixing their Attack.

Lukaku was at Inter in Loan, and Milan is aiming to get the same deal from Chealsea.

I don't know why Inter Milan won't buy this player for the next season, Lukaku had a good performance this season. I mean he couldn't prove himself at the start of the season in Inter Milan but recently and especially in the last weeks in the Serie A and Champions League he had a good enough performance and helped his team enough. Ac Milan offered 4m for hiring this player but I think Inter Milan had to buy him because of the season he spend there.

There are several conditions that Inter might look at in the Lukaku case.
Firstly, he has a very high price and of course this will disrupt his financial condition if he is forced to buy Lukaku because we know that Lukaku will not be released at a low price for Chelsea, at least it still allows the price to be above the average player.
Second, the performance is not too bad but it's just that with the high salary and the value that is still high for Lukaku I think it's still lacking and of course this is not a good thing for a player who does have high values but his performance doesn't match the price and salary .
I think in this case Inter are clearly quite good at making decisions because bringing in Lukaku also apart from draining their pockets, their performance is clearly still far below the average for an expensive player.

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I believe that we have an exciting Serie A season in front of us.

I believe it will be exciting too, the last three seasons was won by Inter milan, Ac milan and Napoli, so the Seria A gave us three different winners for the last three seasons, that is very good competition and it may even be possible that the next winner will be a different team from the last three winners. Napoli are the current champions and they will want to keep their trophy, it will be hard but i believe they can do it, their manager is no longer with them, but if they can keep their best players, then there is a possibility of them to still win the seria A again next season.

Not sure about Napoli next season because after all, Napoli's success in winning the Scudetto this season is also because Juventus are in a chaotic situation. Because I'm sure, if Juventus didn't receive a point deduction penalty from the start, then the point gap between Napoli and Juventus is also not too far and Juventus could have overtaken Napoli last season. But unfortunately, Juventus received a point deduction so that Juventus were unable to be consistent in every match they played. But for next season, I think I'm still confident that Juventus can enter as a team in the Scudetto race.

It is always good to get the facts straight.

The 15 points deduction penalty was officially awarded on January 20th, 2023. On that date Napoli stood at 47 points in the table whereas Juventus Turin was at 37 points, making it a 10 points gap already before the penalty was announced. Napoli almost played a perfect season and outplayed the rest of the field including Juventus. I doubt that even without the penalty at that point Juventus would have had a chance to close that gap. I am now even less optimistic for Juventus next season as I don't see many reasons why they should improve significantly.

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