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Quote from: ndutndut on June 22, 2023, 10:50:36 AM

Quote from: Jatiluhung on June 22, 2023, 07:26:05 AM

The dismissal of Paolo Maldini is actually very unfortunate. Because actually he was fired at the wrong time. Because AC Milan should now focus on the player transfer market and try to get some good players who can improve the strength of a team that has many gaps. But now, even within the AC Milan club, they are still preoccupied with managerial issues within the club. And this will certainly make the club not focus too much on improving the team. Even though Paolo Maldini is needed in the transfer market. I am also a bit pessimistic about AC Milan's performance in the coming season. But still AC Milan is a big club that has a lot of achievements. So they can definitely overcome this problem and can immediately get some players that are needed by the club.

Maldini to this day is still a magnet for AC Milan.. A true legend.. 25 trophies is no joke.. Many players today idolize Maldini.. And many joined Milan because of Maldini's charisma.. A step back and a blunder from Milan's management by firing Maldini in my opinion.

Maldini had an instinct for seeing the potential of players, he managed to bring in players from all over the country, but shone brightly after anchoring in Milan. Maldini's dismissal was a mistake. They forgot that recruiting quality players was not an easy matter. Maldini's figure became a magnet because of his reputation and big name. Even though Maldini has shown "achievements" as a club director in recent years. Too bad Milan doesn't use his services anymore...

Oh yes I agree but it is another case of some outside major investor making a decision against someone who has spent his life building a remarkable soccer player career and yet he had to go. Those are situations when it is not about expertise, but about power and the desire to let everyone feel that power. Firing Maldini was a dumb decision, but I am not too pessimistic for his future as he will surely find another place to deliver good work.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on June 22, 2023, 07:26:05 AM

The dismissal of Paolo Maldini is actually very unfortunate. Because actually he was fired at the wrong time. Because AC Milan should now focus on the player transfer market and try to get some good players who can improve the strength of a team that has many gaps. But now, even within the AC Milan club, they are still preoccupied with managerial issues within the club. And this will certainly make the club not focus too much on improving the team. Even though Paolo Maldini is needed in the transfer market. I am also a bit pessimistic about AC Milan's performance in the coming season. But still AC Milan is a big club that has a lot of achievements. So they can definitely overcome this problem and can immediately get some players that are needed by the club.

Maldini to this day is still a magnet for AC Milan.. A true legend.. 25 trophies is no joke.. Many players today idolize Maldini.. And many joined Milan because of Maldini's charisma.. A step back and a blunder from Milan's management by firing Maldini in my opinion.

Maldini had an instinct for seeing the potential of players, he managed to bring in players from all over the country, but shone brightly after anchoring in Milan. Maldini's dismissal was a mistake. They forgot that recruiting quality players was not an easy matter. Maldini's figure became a magnet because of his reputation and big name. Even though Maldini has shown "achievements" as a club director in recent years. Too bad Milan doesn't use his services anymore...

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Quote from: uswa56 on June 22, 2023, 05:37:51 AM

AC Milan will make big changes next season, we don't know if it will be for the better or vice versa, Paolo Maldini left the management of AC MIlan and there are also many changes in the management of the AC Milan team, Zlatan Ibrahimovic is retiring and Sandro Tonali will be sold soon.
in the last few seasons the AC Milan team has grown to be better but unfortunately now they have started all over again by changing many people in their management.
Personally I am a bit pessimistic for AC MIlan in the next season with what they have done recently.

If the team isn't performing well, changing lots of Ac Milan players won't help them advance; think of the Chelsea team, which has changed coaches more than twice and yet hasn't done well this season. I'm not arguing that replacing Maldini will not benefit AC Milan, but what I'm trying to convey is that it's best to proceed cautiously when replacing players or coaches who are giving their all to a team.
Since Ac Milan is one of the top teams in serie A and they want to perform well in the champions league every year, I have faith that they will try again the following year.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on June 22, 2023, 08:36:53 AM

I thought Monza would be very close to the relegation zone. But the Monza players played very well. They were confident. So the team was able to fight hard even against the big teams. This team can strengthen their position in Serie A if they stay confident. They have several weaknesses within the team. As such, the attacking lineup needs to strengthen them. I would say that if only the attack improves, this team will be able to put on an incredible performance next season.

Monza has starting the league with no victory in the last 6 matches and everybody thought they will be relegated at that time but Silvio Berlusconi has decide to sacked their previous manager Giovanni Stroppa and his position was replace by Raffaele Palladino and apparently this is good decision and Palladino debut match with Monza was very fantastic because at that time Monza can able to beat Juventus and from total 32 matches with new manager Monza has been able to collect 13 wins and this also make they can able to survive in Serie A just like their first target when they got promoted and last season Monza is a giant killer because they can beat strong teams such as Juventus, Inter Milan and Napoli but i still considers them as mediocre team and for next season it would be interesting whether Monza can finish at the better position than last season or not

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Quote from: Minor Miner on June 22, 2023, 10:03:50 AM

Bro I don't compare La Liga teams with Serie A teams. I know other teams in La Liga other than Barcelona and Real Madrid don't spend a lot of money building squads. Madrid and Barcelona spend a lot of money and are two of the best teams in La Liga. But there are many teams in the Premier League who are very rich and spend a lot of money. Manchester City, United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle are very rich clubs. And the Serie A teams will be far behind these clubs financially.

Actually your opinion is not wrong because indeed transfer activity in Serie A is lower than other leagues
But the quality of players in Serie A is not too bad even if they don't spend a lot of money at least in the last 2 seasons
Inter who managed to go to the champions league final is an example they managed to get rid of several favorite teams.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on June 22, 2023, 10:03:50 AM

Bro I don't compare La Liga teams with Serie A teams. I know other teams in La Liga other than Barcelona and Real Madrid don't spend a lot of money building squads. Madrid and Barcelona spend a lot of money and are two of the best teams in La Liga. But there are many teams in the Premier League who are very rich and spend a lot of money. Manchester City, United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle are very rich clubs. And the Serie A teams will be far behind these clubs financially.

I understand what you mean but the important thing here is that LaLiga, Serie A, Premier League have their own advantages and in these 3 standings they also have their own best players and regarding finances they also have their own wealth.
So we don't need to compare or talk about this because Serie A has the best club Napoli, Inter milan, AC Milan and LaLiga has the best club Barcelona, Real madrid and in the Premier League has the best club Manchester city and Arsenal.
In each standings, of course, they have different wealth and different superior players, but here I think that all clubs in any standings are just trying their best.

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Quote from: borovichok on June 22, 2023, 08:09:22 AM

Quote from: harapan on June 22, 2023, 07:46:35 AM

With the budget AC Milan has its going to be difficult to make any high profile signing this summer.
They can still play well and perform better with what they have or with whatever they can get, but that's a very big gamble. Now, not only are the focused on players to sign, but they are also focusing on a technical director to hire.
Personally, I believe a good technical director will make good signing. So if the person taking over is not very good at his job it will be a very big issue for Milan.

This season, the Rossoneri have 20W 10D 8L and are ranked fourth on the table, putting them in contention to compete in UCL action next season. Stefano Pioli, the rossoneri's manager, did his job and bears no guilt from the fans. AC Milan tightens their transfer budgets, the board needs to see good results in the club, they have potential and excellent players, and the key question is, why are they not winning trophies? AC Milan had a good season despite failing to qualify for the UEFA Champions League final, where they were defeated by Inter Milan.

If you count that number, they are actually ranked 5th, it's just that they were lucky because Juventus received a point deduction sanction which made them have to give up the 10 points they managed to collect.

Overall, I can say that AC Milan is playing well and is like any other average club, except for Napoli, which is very superior in Serie A this season. But even though they are playing well, they are not that strong to compete for a title, so there must be changes that will make them even more solid, one of which is by bringing in new, quality players. The problem now is that they seem to have difficulty meeting all those needs.

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I think it's a financial issue, because teams in Italy are not as rich as teams at premier league or la liga, which means that the top are getting even bigger gap than the bottom. At premier league when you move from Championship to Premier league it is still not that easy to stay up, a lot of teams end up staying for a few years and then going down, but their lower level leagues are so competitive and loved that they still get millions of dollars, and when they win they get like hundreds of millions of dollars.
This is why I believe that the best thing for Italian teams is to build a young squad when they are at Serie B, that way they could get better as they go along, and if they go up, they are growing up, so they can stay better, older players may get success quickly, but won't keep it there.

Serie A teams will be far behind financially when compared to Premier League teams. Even so, the teams in Serie A are strong enough. Serie A teams qualify for the Champions League, Europa League, and Conference League finals. Despite not having many star players in the squad, Serie A teams are performing well. Serie A teams should build squads with young players if they are not financially sound enough. Forming a squad with young players will make it difficult to keep the team's performance consistent. But if the coach is experienced, it is possible to form a strong squad with young players.

Lol, La Liga only has Real Madrid and Barcelona as the richest team and after all, Premier League teams are the best when it comes to finances. Also, I am surprised when you say Serie A teams are without a lot of star players because after all, teams like Inter, Juventus, Milan and also Roma have a lot of star players and maybe there are other teams too. So, I don't agree with your statement and also, young and old players are always in every team and in fact, Real Madrid still relied on old players last season too.

Bro I don't compare La Liga teams with Serie A teams. I know other teams in La Liga other than Barcelona and Real Madrid don't spend a lot of money building squads. Madrid and Barcelona spend a lot of money and are two of the best teams in La Liga. But there are many teams in the Premier League who are very rich and spend a lot of money. Manchester City, United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle are very rich clubs. And the Serie A teams will be far behind these clubs financially.

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We will also welcome some of the teams that will join Serie A this season from Serie B. And let's see if there will be any surprises from the teams that managed to move up from Serie B to Serie A. I personally see Frosinone might be a surprise in the coming season. but I doubt this team will compete in the top 10. but if they can compete in the top 10 then it will be an interesting surprise.

It is a really difficult thing for Serie B teams to even cling to the Serie A in their first season there after promotion. Lecce, Cremonese and Monza were the promoted teams this season and only Monza were really impressive. Because Monza finished the season at the 11th position despite coming from the Serie B playoffs stage to this league.
Cremonese are back in the Serie B again and Lecce were also nearly relegating from the Serie A as well. This time we are going to have Frosinone, Genoa and Cagliari here. Genoa and Cagliari have already a big history in the Serie A so for now I see them one step ahead of Frosinone to adapt to the environment.

Monza's performance has impressed everyone this season. The Monza team has performed well this season. They won 14 matches and drew 10 matches. The team was in good form. It was unthinkable that a team from Serie B would dominate Serie A like this. The performance of this group is quite stable. If the Monza team is able to strengthen their attack a bit next season, then I think they can be between 6-8 in the points table.
I look forward to seeing Frosinone's performance next season. I have seen the performances of Geona and Cagliari before. But the Frosinone team is completely new to me. Hopefully they can maintain stability in Serie A.

I also liked the way Monza have played this season. They were able to beat Napoli, win one match against Inter and draw the other. They didn't lose to Roma in a home game. For a Serie B club, these are very good results. It is surprising that they have been able to finish this season in the middle of the standings.

I thought Monza would be very close to the relegation zone. But the Monza players played very well. They were confident. So the team was able to fight hard even against the big teams. This team can strengthen their position in Serie A if they stay confident. They have several weaknesses within the team. As such, the attacking lineup needs to strengthen them. I would say that if only the attack improves, this team will be able to put on an incredible performance next season.

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Quote from: harapan on June 22, 2023, 07:46:35 AM

With the budget AC Milan has its going to be difficult to make any high profile signing this summer.
They can still play well and perform better with what they have or with whatever they can get, but that's a very big gamble. Now, not only are the focused on players to sign, but they are also focusing on a technical director to hire.
Personally, I believe a good technical director will make good signing. So if the person taking over is not very good at his job it will be a very big issue for Milan.

but it's not just ac milan that is in a difficult situation, juventus also have budget problems and other teams are also in very bad shape
why they wanted to make the super league (project failed miserably)

who knows what will happen next year

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Quote from: borovichok on June 22, 2023, 08:09:22 AM

Quote from: harapan on June 22, 2023, 07:46:35 AM

With the budget AC Milan has its going to be difficult to make any high profile signing this summer.
They can still play well and perform better with what they have or with whatever they can get, but that's a very big gamble. Now, not only are the focused on players to sign, but they are also focusing on a technical director to hire.
Personally, I believe a good technical director will make good signing. So if the person taking over is not very good at his job it will be a very big issue for Milan.

This season, the Rossoneri have 20W 10D 8L and are ranked fourth on the table, putting them in contention to compete in UCL action next season. Stefano Pioli, the rossoneri's manager, did his job and bears no guilt from the fans. AC Milan tightens their transfer budgets, the board needs to see good results in the club, they have potential and excellent players, and the key question is, why are they not winning trophies? AC Milan had a good season despite failing to qualify for the UEFA Champions League final, where they were defeated by Inter Milan.

The results for this season are not entirely bad for Milan even though in the end they finished in 4th place in the standings, but not infrequently they should have been able to get a better place if they did not experience inconsistency towards the end of the season. I think Pioli has done a good job and there is no doubt that Milan next season will try to achieve better results, especially to get closer to winning the Scudetto or any other competition.

I think that if Milan fail to win a trophy because of their unstable performance and there are also many other teams who have the same fate as Milan, so it's no wonder they will still experience the same result if there is no change in the team. The addition of new players must also be carried out by Milan because it will be a source of strength to be able to win the title.

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Quote from: harapan on June 22, 2023, 07:46:35 AM

With the budget AC Milan has its going to be difficult to make any high profile signing this summer.
They can still play well and perform better with what they have or with whatever they can get, but that's a very big gamble. Now, not only are the focused on players to sign, but they are also focusing on a technical director to hire.
Personally, I believe a good technical director will make good signing. So if the person taking over is not very good at his job it will be a very big issue for Milan.

The focus of any club that is going through financial problems is to cut costs and get the best out of its investment it can afford. There are talented players in some clubs in Europe and other continents that might be less expensive. Football scouts shouldn't just focus on top clubs or leagues to get players because it will not be cheap and affordable. Going to a lower league and some developing league could help save a lot of costs. Targeting players that are free agents will be nice but most time these players are not in top form. Milan already has a good team, the focus of the club now should be how to keep some important players and get more players to fortify the team. But the club can sell some players if it will give them more funds to buy more quality players. Time is running so AC Milan should be proactive like other top clubs.

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Quote from: harapan on June 22, 2023, 07:46:35 AM

With the budget AC Milan has its going to be difficult to make any high profile signing this summer.
They can still play well and perform better with what they have or with whatever they can get, but that's a very big gamble. Now, not only are the focused on players to sign, but they are also focusing on a technical director to hire.
Personally, I believe a good technical director will make good signing. So if the person taking over is not very good at his job it will be a very big issue for Milan.

This season, the Rossoneri have 20W 10D 8L and are ranked fourth on the table, putting them in contention to compete in UCL action next season. Stefano Pioli, the rossoneri's manager, did his job and bears no guilt from the fans. AC Milan tightens their transfer budgets, the board needs to see good results in the club, they have potential and excellent players, and the key question is, why are they not winning trophies? AC Milan had a good season despite failing to qualify for the UEFA Champions League final, where they were defeated by Inter Milan.

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You are right. Since Milan doesn't have a lot of money right now, they should try to sign young players. If the coach is experienced, it is possible to perform well with young players. Milan aim to bring stability to the performance. This team will not fight for the title. And therefore Milan management has no interest in spending too much money. However, there are likely to be several major changes to Milan's squad next season.

So far, Milan has performed well last season until it qualified for the semifinals of the UCL even though it was finally defeated by Intermilan, but Milan has good quality players, even though they don't have the money to buy great players and are famous for the current players, it seems like enough for Milan to be able to compete in the league. next season with existing players or youth players.
I'm not a Milan supporter but so far they've played well with the existing players, consistency and discipline have made them play well as a solid team, but if you want to buy a player, young players are better because many clubs recruit young players because of course during the season the future will be very tight.

Milan's squad is not that weak. But they do not have a strong squad to win the title. Milan has a number of talented players in their squad and their match tactics are good. This squad is capable of playing well as a team. Because of this, they can be in the top four of Serie A. However, if Milan wants to compete for the title, Milan definitely needs a stronger squad. Since they don't have enough money, I think it is useful for them to form a youth-based group. Even by selling young players as they become experienced, Milan can make money in the future.

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Quote from: uswa56 on June 22, 2023, 05:37:51 AM

AC Milan will make big changes next season, we don't know if it will be for the better or vice versa, Paolo Maldini left the management of AC MIlan and there are also many changes in the management of the AC Milan team, Zlatan Ibrahimovic is retiring and Sandro Tonali will be sold soon.
in the last few seasons the AC Milan team has grown to be better but unfortunately now they have started all over again by changing many people in their management.
Personally I am a bit pessimistic for AC MIlan in the next season with what they have done recently.

The dismissal of Paolo Maldini is actually very unfortunate. Because actually he was fired at the wrong time. Because AC Milan should now focus on the player transfer market and try to get some good players who can improve the strength of a team that has many gaps. But now, even within the AC Milan club, they are still preoccupied with managerial issues within the club. And this will certainly make the club not focus too much on improving the team. Even though Paolo Maldini is needed in the transfer market. I am also a bit pessimistic about AC Milan's performance in the coming season. But still AC Milan is a big club that has a lot of achievements. So they can definitely overcome this problem and can immediately get some players that are needed by the club.

With the budget AC Milan has its going to be difficult to make any high profile signing this summer.
They can still play well and perform better with what they have or with whatever they can get, but that's a very big gamble. Now, not only are the focused on players to sign, but they are also focusing on a technical director to hire.
Personally, I believe a good technical director will make good signing. So if the person taking over is not very good at his job it will be a very big issue for Milan.

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Quote from: masulum on June 22, 2023, 05:36:30 AM

That's right, few season before Berlusconi era ended, AC Milan has experienced financial problem already, several transfers of ownership have not been able to help improve AC Milan's finances to date. The failure to sell important players in the last few seasons has increasingly made AC Milan have minimal income from player sales. Currently, Milan may only be able to buy players at low prices, or try to bring in players on loan. Milan need to sell players the club doesn't really need. The best solutions for know is to start leveraging talent from the Primavera. This is an important time to improve AC Milan's finances again.

Its seems right after Silvio Berlusconi era, AC Milan faced with financial crisis depend on recruitment with many players with free agent, unbelievable with AC Milan decision selling Sandro Tonali to Newcastle United indeed that player got more than four salary bigger than AC Milan. Not enough with primavera players promotion to main squad because most of them less experienced and Milan has to play not only in domestic league but also should focus in Champion League.

I don't sure with AC Milan keep compete for Scudetto tittle next season because selling Sandro Tonali is not good ideas, they need looking who can replace on midfielder position as well as like Tonali.

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Quote from: uswa56 on June 22, 2023, 05:37:51 AM

AC Milan will make big changes next season, we don't know if it will be for the better or vice versa, Paolo Maldini left the management of AC MIlan and there are also many changes in the management of the AC Milan team, Zlatan Ibrahimovic is retiring and Sandro Tonali will be sold soon.
in the last few seasons the AC Milan team has grown to be better but unfortunately now they have started all over again by changing many people in their management.
Personally I am a bit pessimistic for AC MIlan in the next season with what they have done recently.

The dismissal of Paolo Maldini is actually very unfortunate. Because actually he was fired at the wrong time. Because AC Milan should now focus on the player transfer market and try to get some good players who can improve the strength of a team that has many gaps. But now, even within the AC Milan club, they are still preoccupied with managerial issues within the club. And this will certainly make the club not focus too much on improving the team. Even though Paolo Maldini is needed in the transfer market. I am also a bit pessimistic about AC Milan's performance in the coming season. But still AC Milan is a big club that has a lot of achievements. So they can definitely overcome this problem and can immediately get some players that are needed by the club.

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AC Milan will make big changes next season, we don't know if it will be for the better or vice versa, Paolo Maldini left the management of AC MIlan and there are also many changes in the management of the AC Milan team, Zlatan Ibrahimovic is retiring and Sandro Tonali will be sold soon.
in the last few seasons the AC Milan team has grown to be better but unfortunately now they have started all over again by changing many people in their management.
Personally I am a bit pessimistic for AC MIlan in the next season with what they have done recently.

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Quote from: speeder on June 22, 2023, 04:29:57 AM

Napoli has won the hearts of football lovers as a good team. Napoli is one of the most talked about football teams of the present time. Among the best financed teams, Napoli is at the top. But despite being in the top position, Napoli have some problems among their players. Napoli to move forward consistently. In order to solve all the problems, it is important for Napoli coach to look at the problem. I prefer Napoli as a team

There will be new napoli next season. I do believe the change of coach will be changing everything. Napoli will become one of strongest contender to win serie a but the main problem is if another club was also doing so many improvement at the same time. That was making napoli shall have tried even harder next season no matter how big improvements that already happened to the its competitiors. Napoli was a club with the lowest debt in serie a. That means napoli has no burden to pay the debt like another club which is having problem with their financial.
I hope that napoli will able to back to back winning scudetto next year. It will be very good for napoli if the club will able to win it once again.
It's the time for napoli to shine again after waiting so many decades to make it happen.

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Quote from: hd49728 on June 21, 2023, 05:33:24 AM

AC Milan is like many Italian clubs in the last few years. They don't have too much money like clubs from Premier League or La Liga. They have to look at free players to convince those players participate in their clubs. Inter Milan, AC Milan, Roma, Juventus focus on this approach and they got some success. They aim at young players, not old players if they have to spend money for transfers. Because they want to build a squad that can play in a next 5 years or longer with those players.

That's right, few season before Berlusconi era ended, AC Milan has experienced financial problem already, several transfers of ownership have not been able to help improve AC Milan's finances to date. The failure to sell important players in the last few seasons has increasingly made AC Milan have minimal income from player sales. Currently, Milan may only be able to buy players at low prices, or try to bring in players on loan. Milan need to sell players the club doesn't really need. The best solutions for know is to start leveraging talent from the Primavera. This is an important time to improve AC Milan's finances again.

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