Juventus missed their last hope to get a spot for Champions League next season the hard way. They still have a chance if they get back their 10 points again even though they are still at risk of losing everything at once if they didn't win..
I think the change in the Serie A standings table when the competition was almost over was the 10 point deduction received by Juventus which made everything change quickly. for juventus they have a relatively good season this season if they don't get a point deduction. But after dropping points they were relatively unable to balance their game against Empoli and Ac milan. These two defeats have made Juventus unable to close the season in the top 4 places. They even have a chance for the Europa League if they manage to win the game next week, and even then it can happen if luck comes their way. 
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Juventus played better, everyone knows it very well according to the stats. Juventus clearly made more shot attempts but they failed to score. Juventus was just unlucky, the shot accuracy of Juventus players were too bad at that time. But it doesn't mean that the result of the match is abnormal, a stronger team can be defeated if they are unlucky. Well, the match is over, just forget it.
Juventus missed their last hope to get a spot for Champions League next season the hard way. They still have a chance if they get back their 10 points again even though they are still at risk of losing everything at once if they didn't win.. But Roma too is not too bad, this time, they will want to focus entirely on one side. Several important players of Roma are already injured. And so Mourinho will not want to take any risk in the match against Spezia. I guess Roma will try to draw the match by playing completely defensively in this match. The Roma team will not want to be defeated in the home match.
Roma have to secure their current place in Europa League spot in case of failure against Sevilla. So far I find them weak to face Sevilla or even Spezia in Serie A since Spezia will try their best to avoid relegating by the end of the next round.
Juventus just got unlucky on the final match weeks of the league after 10 points were taken away from them. This surely dropped the morales of the players at the same time. Because they lost their chance to qualify for the Champions League. This was the only chance Juventus had because of being eliminated in the Europa League as well. This season is just a big failure for Juventus I'm afraid. It is even doubtful whether they can take one of the tickets to the Europa League groups.
But staying out of the Champions League competition is very important for many players. I'm curious about how many of them will decide to leave. The teams in search of a good striker had better make an enquiry for Vlahovic as well. I think he has a great talent but he needs to go to a team that he can show this more comfortably.
But staying out of the Champions League competition is very important for many players. I'm curious about how many of them will decide to leave. The teams in search of a good striker had better make an enquiry for Vlahovic as well. I think he has a great talent but he needs to go to a team that he can show this more comfortably.
By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I guess if it won't. It's caused by a team can't be affected by other team's success. That means if italy may be only getting 1 ticket for europa league. Roma was qualifying for europa league through serie a and juventus was below it. If roma will be winning europa league and it will be automatically qualified for UCL but juventus will remain to play in the conference league. Juventus can't get a place in europa league caused by as roma's success by winning europa league as team will be qualified for UCL. CMIIWJuventus' condition if they can't shift Roma they will still be in 7th place and there may not be a place for the Conference League.
I don't know for sure about this but still reflect on previous cases, especially for last season when Frankfurt automatically went to the Champions League because they won the Europa League, it was still counted and did not shift other clubs and representatives from the Bundesliga there were 5 clubs.
It is also possible that it will be the same but I don't know what will happen if Roma's current conference League slot and they qualify for the Champions League whether there is a change from another Serie A club (in this case Juventus) or not.
Roma is really focused on the Europa League Final to become a champion and they must be able to try harder to be able to beat Sevilla because this is the path Rome must take if they want to compete in the Champions League next season.
Juventus played better, everyone knows it very well according to the stats. Juventus clearly made more shot attempts but they failed to score. Juventus was just unlucky, the shot accuracy of Juventus players were too bad at that time. But it doesn't mean that the result of the match is abnormal, a stronger team can be defeated if they are unlucky. Well, the match is over, just forget it. But Roma too is not too bad, this time, they will want to focus entirely on one side. Several important players of Roma are already injured. And so Mourinho will not want to take any risk in the match against Spezia. I guess Roma will try to draw the match by playing completely defensively in this match. The Roma team will not want to be defeated in the home match.
no doubt Dybala is a good player. although he's having a not good season at the moment. but with the performance he has shown this season, Mourinho has his assessment of Dybala.
there are rumors he is ready to play in the final against Sevilla. whether forced to recover or not, what is clear is that Dybala has to work hard to recover from his injury as quickly as possible so he can return to the squad.
the best option that Mourinho could implement was to make Dybala a substitute who might be a savior for Roma and lead them to a championship.
in this season dybala is really needed by roma, he even gave roma a few wins against big teams but Roma was unable to finish in the top 5, it prevented them from getting a UCL ticketthere are rumors he is ready to play in the final against Sevilla. whether forced to recover or not, what is clear is that Dybala has to work hard to recover from his injury as quickly as possible so he can return to the squad.
the best option that Mourinho could implement was to make Dybala a substitute who might be a savior for Roma and lead them to a championship.
roma will face spezia on the last matchday later, I wonder if dybala will score a goal or even roma will be defeated
But from the reports so far he'll definitely feature in the the final but playing in the final fixture of this season's Italian Serie A is what I think is probably not gonna happen. Jose Mourinho knows how to rotate his squad and I think he'll definitely know what's best to do without him in this weekend's game
Did you see Juventus' defeat to AC Milan as normal? I am putting Juventus ahead of AC Milan in all aspects starting from performance. Against AC Milan I thought Juventus would pretty much secure a win but they failed. How do you see this defeat?
Do you think it is abnormal? It is normal, mate.Sure, Juventus played better, everyone knows it very well according to the stats. Juventus clearly made more shot attempts but they failed to score. Juventus was just unlucky, the shot accuracy of Juventus players were too bad at that time. But it doesn't mean that the result of the match is abnormal, a stronger team can be defeated if they are unlucky. Well, the match is over, just forget it!
By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I guess if it won't. It's caused by a team can't be affected by other team's success. That means if italy may be only getting 1 ticket for europa league. Roma was qualifying for europa league through serie a and juventus was below it. If roma will be winning europa league and it will be automatically qualified for UCL but juventus will remain to play in the conference league. Juventus can't get a place in europa league caused by as roma's success by winning europa league as team will be qualified for UCL. CMIIWWhat I think is that if Roma win the Europa League if they are going to have a secure place, it has nothing to do with whether it is an Italian Team or any other team from another Country , if they win they win that right, then it has nothing to do , the case of Juve is something else , if they were relegated it was their fault and there is nothing to do , if they managed to get hooked with a 4th place in Serie A they would still go, there is nothing to get in the way, because those are the conditions of these championships , also in fútbol this type of thing can Happen and they would not end the Balance of the championship.
By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I guess if it won't. It's caused by a team can't be affected by other team's success. That means if italy may be only getting 1 ticket for europa league. Roma was qualifying for europa league through serie a and juventus was below it. If roma will be winning europa league and it will be automatically qualified for UCL but juventus will remain to play in the conference league. Juventus can't get a place in europa league caused by as roma's success by winning europa league as team will be qualified for UCL. CMIIWJuventus' condition if they can't shift Roma they will still be in 7th place and there may not be a place for the Conference League.
I don't know for sure about this but still reflect on previous cases, especially for last season when Frankfurt automatically went to the Champions League because they won the Europa League, it was still counted and did not shift other clubs and representatives from the Bundesliga there were 5 clubs.
It is also possible that it will be the same but I don't know what will happen if Roma's current conference League slot and they qualify for the Champions League whether there is a change from another Serie A club (in this case Juventus) or not.
no doubt Dybala is a good player. although he's having a not good season at the moment. but with the performance he has shown this season, Mourinho has his assessment of Dybala.
there are rumors he is ready to play in the final against Sevilla. whether forced to recover or not, what is clear is that Dybala has to work hard to recover from his injury as quickly as possible so he can return to the squad.
the best option that Mourinho could implement was to make Dybala a substitute who might be a savior for Roma and lead them to a championship.
in this season dybala is really needed by roma, he even gave roma a few wins against big teams but Roma was unable to finish in the top 5, it prevented them from getting a UCL ticketthere are rumors he is ready to play in the final against Sevilla. whether forced to recover or not, what is clear is that Dybala has to work hard to recover from his injury as quickly as possible so he can return to the squad.
the best option that Mourinho could implement was to make Dybala a substitute who might be a savior for Roma and lead them to a championship.
roma will face spezia on the last matchday later, I wonder if dybala will score a goal or even roma will be defeated
By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I guess if it won't. It's caused by a team can't be affected by other team's success. That means if italy may be only getting 1 ticket for europa league. Roma was qualifying for europa league through serie a and juventus was below it. If roma will be winning europa league and it will be automatically qualified for UCL but juventus will remain to play in the conference league. Juventus can't get a place in europa league caused by as roma's success by winning europa league as team will be qualified for UCL. CMIIWWhat I think is that if Roma win the Europa League if they are going to have a secure place, it has nothing to do with whether it is an Italian Team or any other team from another Country , if they win they win that right, then it has nothing to do , the case of Juve is something else , if they were relegated it was their fault and there is nothing to do , if they managed to get hooked with a 4th place in Serie A they would still go, there is nothing to get in the way, because those are the conditions of these championships , also in fútbol this type of thing can Happen and they would not end the Balance of the championship.
Did you see Juventus' defeat to AC Milan as normal? I am putting Juventus ahead of AC Milan in all aspects starting from performance. Against AC Milan I thought Juventus would pretty much secure a win but they failed. How do you see this defeat?
It didn't come as a surprise that Juventus lost. Look at how the players played in the field. Apparently, their spirits are down most of players looked want to end the game or season quickly. This season is just not for Juventus - the deduction of points and being stuck with the manager Allegri who seems very adamant to change his tactics together with a bunch of incompetent management team. It is so unreal that a team who used to be feared is now looking like they need to be relegated to Serie B so that they can learn all over again how to be champions. If Juventus can win the last match they will be ending the season with a good positive mindset and also will be able to finish in the top 6. that will be a good positive to take away from this season for Juventus after what has happened to them throughout the whole season.
Roma will not want to take any risks now. They will want to focus entirely on one side. Several important players of Roma are already injured. And so Mourinho will not want to take any risk in the match against Spezia. I guess Roma will try to draw the match by playing completely defensively in this match. The Roma team will not want to be defeated in the home match.
I don't fully understand what you mean about Roma vs Spezia. In fact the match was played after the Europa League final against Sevilla so if Roma fail to win the Europa League title to win Champions League tickets, then obviously the match against Spezia will be very important.At the moment Roma only need to mentally and physically prepare their players to play the Europa League final on Thursday night in my time zone, so the game against Spezia will only be thought about after the final is over.
The Europa League final is very important for Mourinho. He has been fighting for the Europa League title since the start of the season. Although Roma's performance in Serie A has been erratic, Roma has played very well in the Europa League. Mourinho will try his best to win the Europa League title by defeating Sevilla.
Both teams have strugle hard to reach the final, but Sevilla's journey to the final was really tough so I believe they can win the title. Compared to Roma, I tend to believe Sevilla will win the final match this season. 
I regret to say that Dybala has had serious issues with injuries during this season. Maybe these injury time periods haven't lasted very long but he got injured quite often between October 2022 and May 2023. In this time interval he missed 18 matches in total which is a really serious amount in my opinion. This must be really annoying for Dybala also.
Because he was actually very helpful for Roma during the times he was able to play. He made a great contribution with 16 goals and 8 assists as a second striker mostly. This injury problem has even caused Mourinho to not prefer him in the starting eleven from time to time. But I hope he doesn't get injured this often next season because I believe he is one of the crucial players for Roma.
The injury history:
Because he was actually very helpful for Roma during the times he was able to play. He made a great contribution with 16 goals and 8 assists as a second striker mostly. This injury problem has even caused Mourinho to not prefer him in the starting eleven from time to time. But I hope he doesn't get injured this often next season because I believe he is one of the crucial players for Roma.
The injury history:
Dybala could have been one of the best in the world if not for his almost regular injuries. He has been falling in different injuries quite regularly. That is also a reason why he has to stay away for so many matches in one season.
Right now I do not know if Roma is actually thinking about bringing in someone else to be there if Dybala is injured. But at the same time when he is not injured, he is very useful for the team. So they cannot also let him go. I believe he should take care of his health when he is on the field. He is very injury prone so he should always know his limit. The problem is football has become so physical right now. It is actually very hard to not give a hundred percent whenever you are at the field.
Did you see Juventus' defeat to AC Milan as normal? I am putting Juventus ahead of AC Milan in all aspects starting from performance. Against AC Milan I thought Juventus would pretty much secure a win but they failed. How do you see this defeat?
It didn't come as a surprise that Juventus lost. Look at how the players played in the field. Apparently, their spirits are down most of players looked want to end the game or season quickly. This season is just not for Juventus - the deduction of points and being stuck with the manager Allegri who seems very adamant to change his tactics together with a bunch of incompetent management team. It is so unreal that a team who used to be feared is now looking like they need to be relegated to Serie B so that they can learn all over again how to be champions. 
Because he was actually very helpful for Roma during the times he was able to play. He made a great contribution with 16 goals and 8 assists as a second striker mostly. This injury problem has even caused Mourinho to not prefer him in the starting eleven from time to time. But I hope he doesn't get injured this often next season because I believe he is one of the crucial players for Roma.
no doubt Dybala is a good player. although he's having a not good season at the moment. but with the performance he has shown this season, Mourinho has his assessment of Dybala.there are rumors he is ready to play in the final against Sevilla. whether forced to recover or not, what is clear is that Dybala has to work hard to recover from his injury as quickly as possible so he can return to the squad.
the best option that Mourinho could implement was to make Dybala a substitute who might be a savior for Roma and lead them to a championship.
By the way, I wonder if Roma goes to the Champions League, will Italy retain 2 tickets to the Europa League? I do not know this nuance.
I guess if it won't. It's caused by a team can't be affected by other team's success. That means if italy may be only getting 1 ticket for europa league. Roma was qualifying for europa league through serie a and juventus was below it. If roma will be winning europa league and it will be automatically qualified for UCL but juventus will remain to play in the conference league. Juventus can't get a place in europa league caused by as roma's success by winning europa league as team will be qualified for UCL. CMIIWMaybe so, but in this case, a rather interesting paradox is possible: for example, the team that takes 5th place in the championship wins the Champions League (and obviously gets into the Champions League next year), the team that takes 6th place wins the Europa League (and will also qualify for the Champions League). Thus, the country in which such an interesting alignment arose gets zero places in the Europa League?
I think it's very funny, I would like to see this with my own eyes.
the situation could be profitable for Juventus if Roma loses or draw in the last game. and Juventus got the win. that would make 1 Europa League ticket for Juventus. now all they can hope for is the luck of the outcome of Roma vs Spezia. although we know Roma will not waste this precious opportunity either. they can go to the UCL if they become Europa League winners. Roma will have to work hard to beat Sevilla
Roma also hasn't won in the last 5 matches, so I think in the last match, at least against Spezia, they have to win because that will risk them qualifying for the European league, even if they fail in the final then there is still hope for the next season. especially to win the European League title, of course it will be a great achievement with Mourinho.Juventus will also be waiting for the match between Roma vs Spezia as long as they can win the match with Udinese as the away team, well this will be very interesting Roma also certainly won't let it drop points again this is very important for them.
On the other hand, Spezia and Verona both want to get out of their degradation.
Juventus had the worst season they could have and there are not guilty of it because they lost some points during this season due to the penalty and it had a negative effect on the team. Maybe that's the team didn't have a good atmosphere at all and they lost the game against Ac MIlan with a 1-0 result when they could even beat Ac MIlan in a normal situation.
Next week they have to face Udinese and this can be an easy game for them because, in the last five games, these two teams had against each other, Udinese could never beat Juventus and last time in this season Juventus won the game with a 1-0 result.
I agree with you Juventus had a terrible season. Seventh place in Serie A, remained without the Champions League for the first time in 12 years, but the worst thing is that for two years we do not see any development, only regression. No trophies won in 2 years, which for a club with such a history and potential is also a failure. Next week they have to face Udinese and this can be an easy game for them because, in the last five games, these two teams had against each other, Udinese could never beat Juventus and last time in this season Juventus won the game with a 1-0 result.
Maybe Juventus management have only Allegri's contacts in their notebook and they just can't get through to other top coaches.
While the strategy of the club's management remains a mystery, what they will do is unclear. Apparently they do not want to change Allegri, because you can make it worse and that's the only reason they tolerate him for now.
In fact, this also cannot be completely blamed on performance because indeed if there is no mistake from the higher ups in their finances and they don't do anything dirty then they are still in the top standings but bad things do happen. an actual mistake on purpose deserves a penalty and now the points deduction that sent them down to 7th place is inevitable.
But still the lack of progress at the club is evident, the scandal with the departure of Ronaldo, then the uncertainty with the transfers, when players are taken for a lot of money, and they, like Paul Pogba or Marcial, almost do not play.
In general, it seems that the mess at the club comes from the management, which can not decide on the future of the club.
I agree with you Juventus had a terrible season. Seventh place in Serie A, remained without the Champions League for the first time in 12 years, but the worst thing is that for two years we do not see any development, only regression. No trophies won in 2 years, which for a club with such a history and potential is also a failure.
Maybe Juventus management have only Allegri's contacts in their notebook and they just can't get through to other top coaches.
While the strategy of the club's management remains a mystery, what they will do is unclear. Apparently they do not want to change Allegri, because you can make it worse and that's the only reason they tolerate him for now.
when it comes to the decline in the quality of the game, it's not just Juventus who are experiencing it, several big teams in Italy such as Milan and Rome are experiencing a period of the bottom of their squad. I'm not sure whether in the next season Allegri can return to make Juventus' performance uphill, but one thing I'm sure of, Allegri is still the right coach for Juventus, there will be no point in replacing his position. Maybe Juventus management have only Allegri's contacts in their notebook and they just can't get through to other top coaches.
While the strategy of the club's management remains a mystery, what they will do is unclear. Apparently they do not want to change Allegri, because you can make it worse and that's the only reason they tolerate him for now.
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