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Quote from: izsara on May 29, 2023, 01:48:37 PM

Their many internal problems as well as the poor condition of the players has no doubt made them in this position now.
In fact, this also cannot be completely blamed on performance because indeed if there is no mistake from the higher ups in their finances and they don't do anything dirty then they are still in the top standings but bad things do happen. an actual mistake on purpose deserves a penalty and now the points deduction that sent them down to 7th place is inevitable.

Serie A is certainly a strange league and now it's hard to know whether Juventus is to blame or not, but considering what games sometimes happen in Serie A, we can believe that Juventus is not without sin either.

But still the lack of progress at the club is evident, the scandal with the departure of Ronaldo, then the uncertainty with the transfers, when players are taken for a lot of money, and they, like Paul Pogba or Marcial, almost do not play.
In general, it seems that the mess at the club comes from the management, which can not decide on the future of the club.

In this condition, as a club, I don't feel they are doing anything, but indeed from the point of view of the higher-ups, it is clear that this is considered wrong, because even if they have difficulty stabilizing their finances, it is not right for them to do things that are deviant and indeed it will affect Juventus itself.
At this time, like it or not, they have to accept this because even though in this case they still insist on appealing, the findings and sentences against several high-ranking officials there have also shown them to be guilty.

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Quote from: naira on May 31, 2023, 08:49:03 AM

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I know Napoli is going to lose many players and coaches also the first person they are going to lose is Osimhen and then maybe their coach Spalletti for the next season and that's why they won't have the same performance anymore. Personally, I don't expect more from them.

This is also the same as I think, when Napoli take action like this automatically next season Napoli appearance will be a little messy. This season is a pretty good golden era, especially the players that Napoli have as a complement. But it cannot be denied that under the management of Spalletti Napoli managed to show significant changes. Even though it failed in the UCL and had to fall up and down in Serie A, the final result was quite satisfying.

As a squad, we were watching a young Napoli, who is hungry for success, made up of new players, on the field this season. Spaletti directed the players' desire for success very well. Although I think they are below expectations in the Champions League, it is still a great success to win Serie A this season with such a point difference.

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Quote from: naira on May 31, 2023, 08:49:03 AM

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I know Napoli is going to lose many players and coaches also the first person they are going to lose is Osimhen and then maybe their coach Spalletti for the next season and that's why they won't have the same performance anymore. Personally, I don't expect more from them.

This is also the same as I think, when Napoli take action like this automatically next season Napoli appearance will be a little messy. This season is a pretty good golden era, especially the players that Napoli have as a complement. But it cannot be denied that under the management of Spalletti Napoli managed to show significant changes. Even though it failed in the UCL and had to fall up and down in Serie A, the final result was quite satisfying.

I think Napoli wants to focus only on Serie A this season. They want to secure the Serie A title. And they managed to do it. Napoli's players have consistently performed well in Serie A. However, after securing the title, Napoli's performance was erratic in a few matches. Napoli's attack and defense have both been the best in Serie A this season. And if Napoli can continue this kind of performance next season, they can fight for the title. And Napoli's aim next season won't just be the Serie A title. They will also fight for the Champions League title.

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Stefano Pioli's men only need one point to secure a ticket to the Champions League ahead of the match against Juventus, but because in that match they won automatically they are very safe and no one can chase their points in the top four of the standings. The match against Verona will not affect any results for AC Milan, so Pioli can relax a bit and doesn't need to field the main squad and can instead try to play his youth squad.

I'm a bit surprised with the results, I think Milan will be lose on this match. Lucky for Milan, they can manage to win. Pioli need to do something next season, because if AC Milan still like this, maybe they wouldn't qualified for UCL. This season AC milan lucky, becasue Juventus get a sanction. As your opinion, Milan need to focus for better playing style for every matches.

Milan was very lucky due to the point reduction that Juventus had to accept. Then Pioli's troops were also able to take advantage of the situation that the Bianconeri were experiencing because their mentality was indeed down. Now for the additional three points, Milan's position has secured its position in the top four of the standings. The last match no longer affected Milan's position, Pioli was quite relieved by such a situation.

Milan was indeed lucky to win Juve and qualify for the champions league next season. If it wasn't for Juve's point deduction,they would have be among the top four. I think next season will be a good season for Juve both the problem that they will have is that some players might leave the club due to their zeal to play in UCL. Milan will perform brilliantly in the champions league next season and I hope to see the best in them. Juve performance this season was good and they could maintain their quality and still finish at 7th position.

Inter Milan and AC Milan are lucky as they have qualified for the Champions League. With Inter Milan's erratic performance at the start of the season, I thought they would not be in the top four of the table. However, Inter Milan and AC Milan have played quite well in the last few matches. Unlucky Juventus team, they could not qualify for the Champions League due to losing 10 points. But I don't think any Juventus player will leave the team because of not being able to play in the Champions League. Besides, Juventus have enough money. Even if a player leaves the team, Juventus can take qualified replacements.

Even though I am aware of how well AC Milan and Inter Milan have performed recently, I was surprised to see them in the top four, I also doubt that any Juventus players will depart due to their recent bad luck because I feel they can still finish in the top seven in sports with 59 points. I believe they will put in more effort next season to avoid losing these kinds of points like they just did. I believe this will be a bad season for Juventus, seeing as they did not qualify for the upcoming Champions League. We all know they played well in their few matches; it's just that the game didn't come for them.

Milan needs to exert more effort in order to defeat other clubs next season, and I believe they should begin their preparation now. As we can see, Milan's victory over Juventus was a lucky escape, in my opinion.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 31, 2023, 10:57:41 AM

...But one last game of the week will decide the fate of Spezia and Verona who are both fighting to escape the relegation zone. Moreover, these two teams will face very strong opponents, such as Spezia against Roma and Verona against Milan.

For Milan they certainly won't need any more points to lock in their place in the champions league competition, but for Verona an additional point will mean a lot for their continuation in Serie A next season. Maybe Spezia's match against Roma will be a little more difficult because Roma will still be competing with Juventus for the final place in the European league. I think Verona's chances will be slightly superior but they can't let their guard down because even if Milan don't take this game too seriously, for sure Milan will still play offensively.

Spezia and Verona may have to be eliminated next season because I think they have no hope for their last match in the relegation zone. Roma who is an opponent of Spezia is certainly not an easy opponent for Spezia, considering that the strength that Rome has is very big and easy to subvert Spezia, and it seems that Roma still needs points to go up to fifth, overtaking Atalanta in the last match.
Verona himself suffered the same fate, because he had to meet a very strong opponent, even though Milan was enough with the points he had, but whether Milan would be kind to Verona, I don't think it was.

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Quote from: naira on May 31, 2023, 08:49:03 AM

This is also the same as I think, when Napoli take action like this automatically next season Napoli appearance will be a little messy. This season is a pretty good golden era, especially the players that Napoli have as a complement. But it cannot be denied that under the management of Spalletti Napoli managed to show significant changes. Even though it failed in the UCL and had to fall up and down in Serie A, the final result was quite satisfying.

This season was the best season for napoli in this decade and why? it's caused by napoli was able winning serie a after 30 years of waiting. that's a very long time to wait until napoli able to reach scudetto again.

Glad to see that napoli was achieving it without expensive squads. All of players like osimhen and kvarat being bought by napoli with cheap price. Napoli was also successfully developing the players to be even better.

It has been also evolving the cheap players to be the expensive players like osimhen.

So many clubs are willing to pay a lot of money to get him from napoli. The result from this season is very positive for napoli but the saddest thing is if spalleti will not be a coach for napoli next season. I don't know what's the problem but it's very disappointed to see napoli is seeking a replacement for him. I can't even understand why that's happening with him.

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Quote from: naira on May 31, 2023, 08:49:03 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 31, 2023, 08:22:44 AM

I know Napoli is going to lose many players and coaches also the first person they are going to lose is Osimhen and then maybe their coach Spalletti for the next season and that's why they won't have the same performance anymore. Personally, I don't expect more from them.

This is also the same as I think, when Napoli take action like this automatically next season Napoli appearance will be a little messy. This season is a pretty good golden era, especially the players that Napoli have as a complement. But it cannot be denied that under the management of Spalletti Napoli managed to show significant changes. Even though it failed in the UCL and had to fall up and down in Serie A, the final result was quite satisfying.

Yes, I think it will be difficult for Napoli to be able to repeat the same success as this season. Even though Spalletti and a number of players stayed, it was very difficult for them to defend the Scudetto. I think Partrnopei's success this season is more down to sheer luck, because this season the big teams in other Serie A really don't appear consistently until the end of the season. I predict that competition in Serie A next season will be more competitive and I can bet that Napoli will not be able to repeat the same success as this season.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on May 31, 2023, 08:47:32 AM

Juventus was feeling scary to see the club to get another sanction again from FIGC.

that's why juventus has been trying to get in touch with FIGC.

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Juventus have had a plea bargain accepted by the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) after a second trial for their alleged breach of financial rules.

https://www.goal.com/en/news/juventus-agree-to-plea-bargain-with-italian-football-federation-in-transfer-dealings-case/blt0c6c38338cf58d94

I don't even know why juventus was doing it very late after it has got 10 points deduction. If Juventus had pleaded to the FIGC after the court lifted the deduction for 15 points, they might not have gotten that sanction.

I think that if juventus has been taking very wrong step.

In some cases Juventus kept trying to fix things, even teetering on appeals at all costs. It is quite painful for anyone when facing the problem of sanctions that are detrimental to all parties involved. Since the inauguration of the penalty points, it can be seen that the Juventus players have lost the motivation to play aggressively, the last 2 matches have shown bad results because the mentality is depressed.

Quote from: naira on May 31, 2023, 08:49:03 AM

This is also the same as I think, when Napoli take action like this automatically next season Napoli appearance will be a little messy. This season is a pretty good golden era, especially the players that Napoli have as a complement. But it cannot be denied that under the management of Spalletti Napoli managed to show significant changes. Even though it failed in the UCL and had to fall up and down in Serie A, the final result was quite satisfying.

Let's say Napoli has won a trophy 99% this season, and his last match against Sampdoria was confirmed to be superior even with a losing result. But related to next season, which is becoming a hot issue regarding replacing Spalletti, there could indeed be a shift in performance. Osimhen position at Napoli is of course very important and this season alone he has managed to contribute 25 goals which put him as the top scorer. When the key to the game is discarded, it means that a slump will occur, and the risk that Napoli will take can result in a drop in performance next season.

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The top four teams have already determined their place in the champions league next season, as well as Atalanta and Roma who will go to the European league or Juventus who will have the opportunity to play in the conference league. But one last game of the week will decide the fate of Spezia and Verona who are both fighting to escape the relegation zone. Moreover, these two teams will face very strong opponents, such as Spezia against Roma and Verona against Milan.

For Milan they certainly won't need any more points to lock in their place in the champions league competition, but for Verona an additional point will mean a lot for their continuation in Serie A next season. Maybe Spezia's match against Roma will be a little more difficult because Roma will still be competing with Juventus for the final place in the European league. I think Verona's chances will be slightly superior but they can't let their guard down because even if Milan don't take this game too seriously, for sure Milan will still play offensively.

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Quote from: Merit.s on May 30, 2023, 01:32:38 PM

Milan was indeed lucky to win Juve and qualify for the champions league next season. If it wasn't for Juve's point deduction,they would have be among the top four. I think next season will be a good season for Juve both the problem that they will have is that some players might leave the club due to their zeal to play in UCL. Milan will perform brilliantly in the champions league next season and I hope to see the best in them. Juve performance this season was good and they could maintain their quality and still finish at 7th position.

Yes, Milan was lucky against Juventus when they just received a point deduction sanction as the final punishment for Juventus. I believe, this decision is the reason why Juventus lost, some of Juventus players may lack confidence, even though there is still a chance to qualify for the UCL. Unfortunately, the mentality of the players who were not good made this opportunity now gone and Juventus had to give up the UCL ticket to Milan.

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Quote from: naira on May 31, 2023, 08:49:03 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 31, 2023, 08:22:44 AM

I know Napoli is going to lose many players and coaches also the first person they are going to lose is Osimhen and then maybe their coach Spalletti for the next season and that's why they won't have the same performance anymore. Personally, I don't expect more from them.

This is also the same as I think, when Napoli take action like this automatically next season Napoli appearance will be a little messy. This season is a pretty good golden era, especially the players that Napoli have as a complement. But it cannot be denied that under the management of Spalletti Napoli managed to show significant changes. Even though it failed in the UCL and had to fall up and down in Serie A, the final result was quite satisfying.

Even very satisfying. There will always be changes when the season ends and the summer transfer market comes, it's just that the difference is whether they will make big changes or keep the existing squad by only making small changes. When they make big changes and sell many of the key players that brought them this kind of success, then the risks are huge, it's true to say that we can't expect much from them when those changes happen.
But when they only make a few changes, then we still have hope for them, because in terms of chemistry it will definitely be better, because they already understand each other. It's not without risk, but it's not that big compared to the first option I mentioned.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 31, 2023, 08:22:44 AM

I know Napoli is going to lose many players and coaches also the first person they are going to lose is Osimhen and then maybe their coach Spalletti for the next season and that's why they won't have the same performance anymore. Personally, I don't expect more from them.

This is also the same as I think, when Napoli take action like this automatically next season Napoli appearance will be a little messy. This season is a pretty good golden era, especially the players that Napoli have as a complement. But it cannot be denied that under the management of Spalletti Napoli managed to show significant changes. Even though it failed in the UCL and had to fall up and down in Serie A, the final result was quite satisfying.

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Juventus was feeling scary to see the club to get another sanction again from FIGC.

that's why juventus has been trying to get in touch with FIGC.

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Juventus have had a plea bargain accepted by the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) after a second trial for their alleged breach of financial rules.

https://www.goal.com/en/news/juventus-agree-to-plea-bargain-with-italian-football-federation-in-transfer-dealings-case/blt0c6c38338cf58d94

I don't even know why juventus was doing it very late after it has got 10 points deduction. If Juventus had pleaded to the FIGC after the court lifted the deduction for 15 points, they might not have gotten that sanction.

I think that if juventus has been taking very wrong step.

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Quote from: giammangiato on May 31, 2023, 08:19:35 AM

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Victor Osimhen is a beast Cheesy

25 goals
for example Lewandosky in Liga do 23 goals

and he was proposed for Golden Ball

It is natural that at this time he became famous and was bid by big clubs. I heard Chelsea and Man United are fighting for his signature. Spalleti was very clever at polishing Osimhen and brought in several non-star players to perform very well at Napoli. But worse Spalleti will not be with Napoli next season. He will rest, he will rest for a year. I myself find it strange that Napoli seem to have a bad relationship with Spalleti.

I too find it very strange, but the facts speak for themselves. Spalletti is a good and intelligent coach
I just hope that Napoli doesn't decide to give up and sell this precious player
They need it for next year, you don't find them goalscorers like that every day

But basically Luciano Spalletti only has a contract until June 2023 which of course, Luciano Spalletti's contract will last at least until the end of this season. So, I'm not really sure if Luciano Spalletti will actually rest or if Napoli won't extend his contract. But, if Napoli does not extend Luciano Spalletti's contract, then of course Luciano Spalletti can get offers from other clubs or Luciano Spalletti will really choose to rest for a while.

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Quote from: X-ray on May 31, 2023, 01:36:07 AM

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Yes, Milan should have no hope of finishing in the top four, but because of the penalty for Juventus, everything is different. Uniquely the Rossoneri were also able to win at home to Juventus where they successfully locked in the top four of the standings.

The sanction to the juventus has been changing everything right now. Juventus may be qualifid for UCL if there would be no sanctions to come. That's why so many players even allegri feel disappointed to see the sanction was coming once the season is still a few matches away from its end.
So many parties can't accept the sanction that has already given to the juventus. This is something that doesn't to be argued caused by the only court who will able to lift the sanction for juventus.

Quote from: $anounimus$ on May 30, 2023, 03:07:29 PM

For next season, it is certainly difficult to predict who will be the best, because almost all teams will evaluate their respective teams. I think it's too early to judge the team's prospects for next season.

I believe if napoli will not be performing the same like this season. it's caused by spalletti and some important players will be gone.
The power of napoli will be decreasing a lot. Spalletti has internal problem with napoli.

That's why he was not even extending his contract with napoli. Napoli will be playing so badly next season.

I know Napoli is going to lose many players and coaches also the first person they are going to lose is Osimhen and then maybe their coach Spalletti for the next season and that's why they won't have the same performance anymore. Personally, I don't expect more from them.

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Quote from: Luzin on May 31, 2023, 07:46:09 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on May 31, 2023, 07:20:30 AM

Victor Osimhen is a beast Cheesy

25 goals
for example Lewandosky in Liga do 23 goals

and he was proposed for Golden Ball

It is natural that at this time he became famous and was bid by big clubs. I heard Chelsea and Man United are fighting for his signature. Spalleti was very clever at polishing Osimhen and brought in several non-star players to perform very well at Napoli. But worse Spalleti will not be with Napoli next season. He will rest, he will rest for a year. I myself find it strange that Napoli seem to have a bad relationship with Spalleti.

I too find it very strange, but the facts speak for themselves. Spalletti is a good and intelligent coach
I just hope that Napoli doesn't decide to give up and sell this precious player
They need it for next year, you don't find them goalscorers like that every day

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Quote from: gordonics.com on May 31, 2023, 02:15:15 AM

If some players really leave the team, Juventus would have even more money!

The club will sell those players who leave with high price. The player like dusan vlahovic already offered by some clubs. It seems like that if juventus has no choice. Selling player is a must for the club. Juventus may have more money but it will not able to get the same talent again like those may be leaving from the club soon. The sanction has been ruining juventus's chance to be qualified for the UCL. It's a big lose as allegri valued UCL spot as important as a trophy.

It's caused by there will be so many beneficials from the club started from additional income, more popularity, at the same time juventus can show its superstars to the another club.

That means if there would be possibility for a club from UCL will try to buy juventus's player with high price.

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Quote from: Luzin on May 31, 2023, 07:46:09 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on May 31, 2023, 07:20:30 AM

Victor Osimhen is a beast Cheesy

25 goals
for example Lewandosky in Liga do 23 goals

and he was proposed for Golden Ball

It is natural that at this time he became famous and was bid by big clubs. I heard Chelsea and Man United are fighting for his signature. Spalleti was very clever at polishing Osimhen and brought in several non-star players to perform very well at Napoli. But worse Spalleti will not be with Napoli next season. He will rest, he will rest for a year. I myself find it strange that Napoli seem to have a bad relationship with Spalleti.

That's right, with the contribution of so many goals with Napoli, Osimhen's name became popular and many European teams were interested in signing him. But it looks like this will be realized with the addition of the news that Spalleti has left Napoli for next season will certainly strengthen Osimhen's choice to join one of these European teams.

It seems that now Napoli will be left behind one by one by its key players and in the absence of Spalleti it is likely that Napoli will not be able to compete again for the Scudetto next season and it is likely that Napoli will only be a team competitor in the top 4.

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Quote from: Strongkored on May 31, 2023, 04:04:23 AM

Some of the players who are rumored to be leaving Juventus after this season are over are due to the expiration of their contracts, and don't think that Juventus will be destroyed next season because they don't play in the champions league because after all Juve is still a big club.

Yes, you're right, Juventus' downturn due to point deductions has made Juventus fail in the UCL next season, but at least they can maintain their position to take part in the conference league. I think Juventus also need to overhaul their players to be able to bring Juventus better next season. both from the back line and the front line.

I think players who have expired contracts and are not renewed will not destroy Juventus because Juventus can buy new players for next season, I hope Juventus can win the league next season with new players and not as a whole retain players who have expired contracts and not profitable for juventus.

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Quote from: giammangiato on May 31, 2023, 07:20:30 AM

Victor Osimhen is a beast Cheesy

25 goals
for example Lewandosky in Liga do 23 goals

and he was proposed for Golden Ball

It is natural that at this time he became famous and was bid by big clubs. I heard Chelsea and Man United are fighting for his signature. Spalleti was very clever at polishing Osimhen and brought in several non-star players to perform very well at Napoli. But worse Spalleti will not be with Napoli next season. He will rest, he will rest for a year. I myself find it strange that Napoli seem to have a bad relationship with Spalleti.

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