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Quote from: hahay on December 04, 2024, 10:59:09 AM

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And as you said, Juventus actually still has the opportunity and chance to be in that zone if in the upcoming matches they can win again. Because an increase in position can only happen when a team gets full points and another team loses in the same week.

Juventus to be able to return to the top four of the standings is still possible considering the number of points between Inter Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio is only two points apart. But to catch Atalanta and Napoli at the top of the standings is rather difficult considering that both of them (Atalanta and Napoli) this season until week 14 are still very consistent with their performance.

This week, Juventus has the opportunity to move up to fourth place in the standings if they win over Bologna and may stay if in another match Lazio loses when facing Napoli.

Juventus are on 26 points at the moment, but above Juventus are Lazio, Fiorentina and Inter on 28 points. In the next league, Juventus will play at home against Bologna and I think it is still possible to draw. Because I think, Juventus are still not good enough to maximize moments like this but indeed, despite my doubts for Juventus I also still hope Juventus manage to win against Bologna later. Because if Juventus manages to win, then maybe Juventus will succeed in overtaking Lazio who will play away against Napoli.

If for example Lazio lose or draw against Napoli, and Juventus win against Bologna, then these results will make Juventus overtake Lazio. For Fiorentina and INter, I personally believe they will manage to secure three points, because Fiorentina will play at home against Cagliari and Inter will also play at home against Parma, and I'm sure they will still manage to win at home.

The game at home has offered Juventus with great opportunity to enhance their performance in the league standings. A turn can be a motivation for Bologna also the game could help to achieve the necessary result in the league, therefore it is useful. Although the team Lazio was lagging far behind, now with Napoli coming their way they have a good opportunity to leave the team behind if they play to the optimum level. otherwise Fiorentina and Inter appear to be in the much stronger side but the final always book on how these two teams will fare on the field. All we have to do is to encourage Juventus to perform to their maximum capacity in their match, with the possibility of the result they produce taking them to a higher ranking.

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Fiorentina lost versus Empoli this evening.
Game went 2-2 but they lost in the penalties.

Fiorentina is now out form the italian cup, and this is a big suprise considering how they are going in the Serie A.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on December 04, 2024, 11:09:30 AM

But seeing AC Milan knocked out of the top 6 is quite rare. And even with a fairly large point difference, AC Milan is widely doubted by anyone at the moment. But even so, it doesn't rule out the possibility that AC Milan will be able to surprise and make Atalanta lose. But even so, I would probably choose Atalanta as I said before. Because I think a very stable team is quite trustworthy. Gasperini makes Atalanta improve from season to season. I like Gasperini's approach to building the Atalanta squad slowly. And the results make Atalanta's performance always stable and consistent. And this season, Atalanta could be at their best. both in Serie A and at UCL. But the problem is that it is very rare for a team to be consistent from the start of the season to the end of the season. Except for Inter Milan and Napoli who did it when they managed to become champions in Serie A.

I agree, Milan is rarely this bad normally and because of that we are not used to seeing them have this kind of result, it's not really that common to see Milan have a bad season. But sometimes every team has bad seasons and this is theirs, so it shouldn't really be a shock, we need to be used to this already, and not really be shocked about it, because it's literally what we saw so far and that's why I do not think that it would be that weird to see this happen again.

I understand people are having second doubts about Milan this season, but they are a huge club, with a big fanbase, and I am sure that we are going to end up seeing them recover quite easily and shouldn't really be ending up with staying like this, they will do fine.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on December 04, 2024, 10:57:27 AM

I think Atalanta is far better in all aspects compared to the Milan atm. I do like how man on man's marking strategy by Gasperini. It's always doing very well in the big match, and i expect him to do that again soon. They get 2.06 for a home game, that's very tempting odds, but the gap to ward Milan is not that big.

To bet on 1x2 Atalanta which is very dencent consider we can double our money. 2.5 goals are even offered less than 1x2 Atalanta, but as you said, it's likely to happen. I personally wanna choose a direct bet to Atalanta instead of consider other options.

I agree with this because looking at what was shown on the field in the last few matches, especially if you look at the attacking schemes and productivity they have, it is clear that Atalanta currently has an advantage over Milan.

Not that Milan are a bad club but if we look at what they have always shown this season I think we realize that Milan's schemes are too monotonous and do not want to take risks in matches and prefer to play passively in order to get at least 1 point which makes Milan in trouble like now.

I think doing at 1x2 for Atalanta is not a problem especially with the performance they are showing like now but even so I think for betting it will still be worth it for both teams to score because even though Milan is always with its boring game but counterattacks with their long passes are always on points and can be used as a troublesome weapon in a match.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on December 04, 2024, 10:57:27 AM

I think Atalanta is far better in all aspects compared to the Milan atm. I do like how man on man's marking strategy by Gasperini. It's always doing very well in the big match, and i expect him to do that again soon. They get 2.06 for a home game, that's very tempting odds, but the gap to ward Milan is not that big.

To bet on 1x2 Atalanta which is very dencent consider we can double our money. 2.5 goals are even offered less than 1x2 Atalanta, but as you said, it's likely to happen. I personally wanna choose a direct bet to Atalanta instead of consider other options.

The concern in this case is how Milan will try to take advantage so that the conditions remain a point in every match they do.
Atalanta with Milan at the moment when talking about the actual game scheme is very good and Atalant is better than Milan who are monotonous and sometimes they prefer to secure 1 point by playing passively rather than trying harder to keep and change the score in a match.

Atalanta is one of the clubs that I categorize as a club that will be troublesome for the opponents they face so in this case there is a hope that Atalanta can show a very good game in conditions of doubt about Milan's appearance which is sometimes always monotonous in every match they do in Serie A.

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Quote from: Farma on December 04, 2024, 02:52:43 AM

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Atalanta is certainly favored, especially since they are playing at home and Atalanta's performance is currently quite good, but AC Milan is also a strong Serie A team that cannot be underestimated. In the last few matches, AC Milan has improved compared to the beginning of the season, so the match against Atalanta is likely to be fierce.

For my betting options, I will bet on over goals in the match later, I see Atalanta and AC Milan are quite productive in scoring goals in the last few matches, so it is likely that there will be many goals scored in this match.

I am not calling Atalanta the favorite just because of the home match. This team is very strong this season. I have seen the performance of Atalanta players in several matches. Atalanta players are capable of scoring a lot of goals. At the same time, they are also able to maintain the continuity of good performance.

We have seen that Atalanta's performance in Serie A is very good. The second place in the table is occupied by Atalanta. Atalanta has also been able to perform well in the Champions League matches. Atalanta has not been defeated in a single match in the Champions League yet. For these reasons, I consider Atalanta to be the favorite in the match against AC Milan.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 04, 2024, 04:52:02 AM

It was an amazing performance by Milan at San Siro.

Considering they aren't much competitive for the Serie A title this season, it is nice to see them getting such win in the Coppa Italia at least. They had better focus on winning this cup on one hand. It is still early in the season too of course. But Napoli and Atalanta really don't look like both of them will give up on the title that easy.

However I would like to see Milan fighting for top 4 at least. They have a tough away game against Atalanta in 2 days. They should show some resistance there.

The odds for the sides are like this. I might prefer a different option here though. Like BTTS & over 2.5 goals @1.97. I think it is worth a shot.

Defending a trophy is usually the toughest, but Milan so far has been really proving that they are working towards getting that done. Like you said it will be actually more profitable for them if they focus more on winning the league title than the champions League as they aren't looking like they will really have a chance at the champions League this season.

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Quote from: naira on December 04, 2024, 04:30:36 AM

AC Milan will clearly have difficulty in the match, in addition to their inconsistent performance, their players have not been able to match the frequency of the coach wishes in implementing the strategy. Atalanta is stronger, more stable and the advantage of playing at home is a complement that their target of getting 3 points can be achieved. AC Milan is still not promising and I would not be too brave to bet on their victory.

Atlanta is currently in top form, they can’t even remember when last they lost a match and that’s since September that they lost to Como. The consistency in their performance is just so impressive and another reason why they need to win is because they are trailing Napoli as they are just one point behind them. AC Milan is also a strong team and they have managed to improve their performance in recent games so they will be a good challenge for Atlanta but Atlanta is the home team so they have the advantage to bag all 3 points. I predict a draw in the game though.

Quote from: Arenga pinnata on December 04, 2024, 03:47:41 AM

But Atalanta in this match also has the home advantage. So favoring Atalanta might also be a pretty good choice. But yeah, I'm the same as you, feeling confused about which team to favorite. Because both of them have teams whose strength is worth considering.

Atlanta have more advantage of winning the match but i just feeling confused as you are because AC Milan is a strong team and it doesn’t matter if they are inconsistent or not they can still perform well against top opponents. I see a draw in the game but Atlanta have higher chances of winning.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on December 04, 2024, 10:57:27 AM

I think Atalanta is far better in all aspects compared to the Milan atm. I do like how man on man's marking strategy by Gasperini. It's always doing very well in the big match, and i expect him to do that again soon. They get 2.06 for a home game, that's very tempting odds, but the gap to ward Milan is not that big.

To bet on 1x2 Atalanta which is very dencent consider we can double our money. 2.5 goals are even offered less than 1x2 Atalanta, but as you said, it's likely to happen. I personally wanna choose a direct bet to Atalanta instead of consider other options.

If we will watch the stats of Milan and Atalanta football team then we will collect the data that Atalanta full strength football team is always favorite. Atalanta full strength football team is ahead in points table and have upper position in table and have 31 points on table after winning last match and that team is one of the best team of this tournament. Milan full strength team is very lower in position. Atalanta head to head record is perfect because that team won 2 matches out of 5 matches and Milan team won one match and two matches were draw . So from all sides Atalanta is perfect team to win this match.Atalanta recent matches performance is at top and they won all matches and got 2nd position on points table.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on December 04, 2024, 10:20:15 AM

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However I would like to see Milan fighting for top 4 at least. They have a tough away game against Atalanta in 2 days. They should show some resistance there.

The odds for the sides are like this. I might prefer a different option here though. Like BTTS & over 2.5 goals @1.97. I think it is worth a shot.

I would bet Atalanta to win straight away, Atalanta is just too strong in this season. Milan showed if they're getting better, but they didn't win against Juventus and Napoli, so they're still struggle to fight against strong teams.

BTTS is likely to happen, but over 2.5 goals is quite risky, if you check their head to head, the results are mostly 2 goals.

Atalanta tends to be the favourite in the match considering they have been doing very well in several matches, indeed we cannot deny that since defeating madrid, milan has risen up and are unbeaten in their last 5 matches in all competitions, but as you said they still have weaknesses when facing big teams, so that can indeed be one of the factors for us to favour atalanta in the match later, if we look at the head to head of the two teams so far it looks like BTTS is a good choice, but if you look at their current sharp attack line, over goal can also be a better choice in my opinion.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 04, 2024, 08:41:43 AM

Quote from: Jatiluhung on December 04, 2024, 07:07:13 AM

I very much agree with you. Because the difference in rankings in Serie A and UCL alone can explain the current quality of both. Atalanta is currently ranked 2nd in Serie A and in the UCL Atalanta is ranked 5th. Yes, that is a very good ranking which makes it clear to us that Atalanta's quality this season is truly extraordinary.

Meanwhile, AC Milan is still struggling to recover with their new coach. And even though AC Milan has improved recently and they even made three consecutive wins in the UCL recently, including beating Real Madrid, their consistency is still in doubt. AC Milan in the UCL is currently ranked 16th. Meanwhile in Serie A AC Milan is ranked 7th. Well that's not a good ranking at all. And favoring Atalanta as hosts in this match seems like I would prefer.

And after 14 rounds, Atalanta is ahead of Milan by 10 points, which is also a lot. The teams are currently solving different problems, Atalanta is obviously trying to fight with Napoli for first place, and Milan is 6 points away from the top 4. And this will also be a home match for Atalanta, which will also give them an advantage. Milan cannot boast of great stability, by the way, this has always been a long-standing problem for Atalanta, but it seems that Gasparini is doing a better job this season, at least for now.

But seeing AC Milan knocked out of the top 6 is quite rare. And even with a fairly large point difference, AC Milan is widely doubted by anyone at the moment. But even so, it doesn't rule out the possibility that AC Milan will be able to surprise and make Atalanta lose. But even so, I would probably choose Atalanta as I said before. Because I think a very stable team is quite trustworthy. Gasperini makes Atalanta improve from season to season. I like Gasperini's approach to building the Atalanta squad slowly. And the results make Atalanta's performance always stable and consistent. And this season, Atalanta could be at their best. both in Serie A and at UCL. But the problem is that it is very rare for a team to be consistent from the start of the season to the end of the season. Except for Inter Milan and Napoli who did it when they managed to become champions in Serie A.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on December 04, 2024, 10:20:15 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 04, 2024, 04:52:02 AM

However I would like to see Milan fighting for top 4 at least. They have a tough away game against Atalanta in 2 days. They should show some resistance there.

The odds for the sides are like this. I might prefer a different option here though. Like BTTS & over 2.5 goals @1.97. I think it is worth a shot.

I would bet Atalanta to win straight away, Atalanta is just too strong in this season. Milan showed if they're getting better, but they didn't win against Juventus and Napoli, so they're still struggle to fight against strong teams.

BTTS is likely to happen, but over 2.5 goals is quite risky, if you check their head to head, the results are mostly 2 goals.

Yesterday, AC Milan thrashed Sassuolo with a 6:1 scoreline in their Coppa Italia game and because of that result, many are now of the opinion that AC Milan can as well get a result against Atalanta when they meet each other in the Italian Serie A this weekend at Gewiss stadium in Bergamo. I know AC Milan have a strong squad that's capable of going to Atalanta and picking maximum three points but considering the performance of Atalanta this season, I think the best AC Milan can get in that game is a draw

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Quote from: yudi09 on December 04, 2024, 09:21:54 AM

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And as you said, Juventus actually still has the opportunity and chance to be in that zone if in the upcoming matches they can win again. Because an increase in position can only happen when a team gets full points and another team loses in the same week.

Juventus to be able to return to the top four of the standings is still possible considering the number of points between Inter Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio is only two points apart. But to catch Atalanta and Napoli at the top of the standings is rather difficult considering that both of them (Atalanta and Napoli) this season until week 14 are still very consistent with their performance.

This week, Juventus has the opportunity to move up to fourth place in the standings if they win over Bologna and may stay if in another match Lazio loses when facing Napoli.

Juventus are on 26 points at the moment, but above Juventus are Lazio, Fiorentina and Inter on 28 points. In the next league, Juventus will play at home against Bologna and I think it is still possible to draw. Because I think, Juventus are still not good enough to maximize moments like this but indeed, despite my doubts for Juventus I also still hope Juventus manage to win against Bologna later. Because if Juventus manages to win, then maybe Juventus will succeed in overtaking Lazio who will play away against Napoli.

If for example Lazio lose or draw against Napoli, and Juventus win against Bologna, then these results will make Juventus overtake Lazio. For Fiorentina and INter, I personally believe they will manage to secure three points, because Fiorentina will play at home against Cagliari and Inter will also play at home against Parma, and I'm sure they will still manage to win at home.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on December 04, 2024, 10:20:15 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 04, 2024, 04:52:02 AM

However I would like to see Milan fighting for top 4 at least. They have a tough away game against Atalanta in 2 days. They should show some resistance there.

The odds for the sides are like this. I might prefer a different option here though. Like BTTS & over 2.5 goals @1.97. I think it is worth a shot.

I would bet Atalanta to win straight away, Atalanta is just too strong in this season. Milan showed if they're getting better, but they didn't win against Juventus and Napoli, so they're still struggle to fight against strong teams.

BTTS is likely to happen, but over 2.5 goals is quite risky, if you check their head to head, the results are mostly 2 goals.

I think Atalanta is far better in all aspects compared to the Milan atm. I do like how man on man's marking strategy by Gasperini. It's always doing very well in the big match, and i expect him to do that again soon. They get 2.06 for a home game, that's very tempting odds, but the gap to ward Milan is not that big.

To bet on 1x2 Atalanta which is very dencent consider we can double our money. 2.5 goals are even offered less than 1x2 Atalanta, but as you said, it's likely to happen. I personally wanna choose a direct bet to Atalanta instead of consider other options.

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Quote from: Tony116 on December 03, 2024, 11:22:23 PM

There is no doubt that AC Milan performed brilliantly against Sassuolo. Milan dominated the entire match. Honestly, we expect such a great performance from a team like Milan. However, Milan's performance this season has been very inconsistent. Despite winning by a large margin against Sassuolo, Milan has shared points with teams like Juventus and Cagliari in the previous two matches. Milan is in seventh place in the points table due to its irregular performance.

Milan is going to face Atalanta in the next match. I consider Atalanta to be the favorite. Atalanta is a very strong team. Atalanta has probably won the last 7 matches in a row in Serie A. It will be very difficult for Milan to win in Atalanta's home match.

Sassuolo is in Serie B this year and I doubt they used all their top player for the game.
The only thing that matters to them is not having injuries for the Serie B championship and be able to be back in Serie A this year.

I also doubt they played at their 100% for no reason.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 04, 2024, 04:52:02 AM

However I would like to see Milan fighting for top 4 at least. They have a tough away game against Atalanta in 2 days. They should show some resistance there.

The odds for the sides are like this. I might prefer a different option here though. Like BTTS & over 2.5 goals @1.97. I think it is worth a shot.

I would bet Atalanta to win straight away, Atalanta is just too strong in this season. Milan showed if they're getting better, but they didn't win against Juventus and Napoli, so they're still struggle to fight against strong teams.

BTTS is likely to happen, but over 2.5 goals is quite risky, if you check their head to head, the results are mostly 2 goals.

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Quote from: yudi09 on December 04, 2024, 09:21:54 AM

Quote from: wmaurik on December 04, 2024, 06:12:21 AM

And as you said, Juventus actually still has the opportunity and chance to be in that zone if in the upcoming matches they can win again. Because an increase in position can only happen when a team gets full points and another team loses in the same week.

Juventus to be able to return to the top four of the standings is still possible considering the number of points between Inter Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio is only two points apart. But to catch Atalanta and Napoli at the top of the standings is rather difficult considering that both of them (Atalanta and Napoli) this season until week 14 are still very consistent with their performance.

This week, Juventus has the opportunity to move up to fourth place in the standings if they win over Bologna and may stay if in another match Lazio loses when facing Napoli.

Juventus has not performed well throughout this season, they do not have a good attacking line so I do not have high expectations for Juventus this season because in my opinion when compared to several top teams in Serie A at the moment it is very likely that Juventus is not able to compete.

For the match this weekend Juventus will play at home against Bologna, maybe Juventus has a large percentage to be able to win the match because Bologna also does not perform well when playing away this season.

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AC Milan's performance this season is a little doubtful and they are declining in finding full points in every match, ranking seventh in the standings while for AC Milan it seems that they are not favorites in every match. AC Milan, a great team at that time, naturally won against Sassuolo with a lot of goals, but when facing teams that were equal to Juventus and Cagliari, of course they would lose points.
AC Milan's next match will play at home to Atalanta and it will not be easy to take full points from Atalanta because they have been on fire in the previous 7 matches.

This season AC Milan has experienced a worse change so that Milan's position in the current standings is also not really good and for this weekend's match it is not at home, but Milan will be a guest at Atalanta's home, you can see it again on this week's match schedule. Besides that, I don't even think that Milan will be able to draw at Atalanta's home this week and even if the match results are a draw, of course it is a surprise for Milan because I only think about Atalanta's victory for this week.

AC Milan record doesn't explain why it's not in the standings. If you look at the record of AC Milan it is quite good but not that good. If you look at the first few matches, there are 2 draws and 2 defeats and they are win 6 matches, so they should be in the standings. The match between these two will be very interest in which we can see a draw and a win for one side but this match will also see difficulties for both the sides and one of the two sides would have to win after a difficult time. AC Milan matches in the week will be quite good if they win the match against Atalanta then they can win the next few match too but for that they will have to work hard and play well.

Ac Milan is a much better team than before and they have won many times in the Italian league before and they were runners up in the last series as well. Atalanta are playing a bit better for now but don't think it will be long lasting. At the start of the series, Ac Milan are behind many teams in terms of points, making it challenging but not impossible for them to overcome. AC Milan's next match against Atalanta is unlikely for Milan to win. And winning this match is very important for them

How sure are you that Ac Milan will win their next match against Atalanta? Yes you can analyze the previous series and say that Atalanta is by no means a stronger team than Milan. Because so far they have no record of winning the Italian league trophy. But that is not to say that they will never be champions. Atalanta are playing well enough as you can see by analyzing the points table so they won't be taking it easy in their next match against Milan either. They will also try hard to win the match. But yes if Milan win the match then it will be very positive for them to move up in the points table

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Quote from: Out of mind on December 03, 2024, 12:44:27 PM

Atalanta has achieved a great victory against Roma today, currently Atalanta team is very excited. We can see that Atalanta team is currently in the second position of the point table, they are competing a lot with the top team Napoli. Atalanta team has become stronger this season compared to last season, they are currently in the second position with only 1 point difference and will occupy the top position at any time. However, Roma is in a very bad position this season and they have not been able to improve their game, they are losing points in every match and are moving towards the bottom of the table. Although Roma was able to occupy a good position last season, but this season Roma may fall into the relegation zone. If Roma cannot improve their game performance from this time, then they will definitely have to go into the relegation zone, they are already in the 15th position of the point table.

Atalanta is a very strong team this season and aims to dream big, nothing surprising if it happens given that it has a certain solidity thanks to Gasperini's many years of work.
I evaluate the team with a positive outlook and in fact i won my bet, not by chance i would say.

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Quote from: hahay on December 03, 2024, 11:32:24 AM

Indeed, basically Mourinho is still a good head coach for AS Roma compared to other coaches at this time. But maybe, AS Roma has high expectations for Mourinho so that AS Roma is not satisfied with the results Mourinho made for AS Roma in his coaching era. But still, even though AS Roma experienced a decline before Mourinho was fired, at least Mourinho always had a chance to be able to make a recovery for the team.

Unfortunately, AS Roma could not wait any longer and could not give Mourinho more time, until finally AS Roma found it difficult to rise with his way of firing and changing coaches in the middle of the season like this. But about Ranieri, honestly his job is also very difficult to give a target to make a rapid improvement in performance this season. Because after all, Ranieri also did not always succeed in becoming a head coach in other teams, so it still takes time for them to recover and that is a difficult job.

But at least, I personally do not really mind it, because I am not a fanatical fan of any team, so I can still take advantage of moments like this to make bets.

True, what you say is absolutely correct. Allow me to point out that Roma have gone absolutely downhill since Jose Mourinho's dismissal, in spite of those who say he is not a good coach.
It is no coincidence that he was the one who brought Lukaku to Roma, just to mention one of the many things he did.

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