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Quote from: bitgolden on November 17, 2024, 03:21:02 PM

It's great to hear that Pogba could actually play for some other team, but I would say if any team wants to get him, at least get him for 1.5 years to make sense. He will be joining the team by January, but only get to play by march, and that's not really that much of a profitable thing to keep him playing for only less than 3 months total because most teams end their games by end of May.

So, we should probably expect to see him join a team for at least 1.5 seasons to make it worth it, otherwise it is not going to be all that ease to handle and we are going to see this being a very difficult situation for the team. Pogba also would rather stay for long term, after such a chaotic period on his life, I would guess that it would be better for him to have some stability. People should remember that he didn't take like steroid and buffed up, this dude was injured and during his recovery just used stuff his trainers and doctors gave him, so he is still a decent footballer who will probably not face these again.

I really wish Pogba all the best. Because it seems like he never intentionally used doping. And yes, he only uses medicine to restore his condition, which often suffers from injuries. And I was happy when I heard that Pogba could finally play again in 2025. Even though it might only be a short time. because maybe if he manages to find a club that wants to make a contract with him then he will only play for a few months before the season ends. Because March is almost towards the end of the season. Several clubs have been rumored to be interested in bringing in Pogba. And one of the Arab clubs rumored to be interested in Pogba is Al-Nassr. And I think it's not a bad choice for Pogba with the situation he has at the moment.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 16, 2024, 09:21:42 AM

Pogba has really become a free agent officially.

There are already rumours out on the internet about his potential next team. Galatasaray rumours are getting bigger these days. It is said that they have been offered to sign him already. Do you know anything about how true it is? Huh

I wouldn't be surprised if Galatasaray is really interested. They have drawn attention to themselves after that Osimhen loan already you know. Grin

I wonder whether this Pogba signing will also get real soon.

Yes, there is any loss in other and own team by doing so then why let it happen. I do not find any truth in this as there are many such rumours. I don't trust most of the Social media and these such rumors are made against him and to get fame. Therefore we should not consider it because we have not yet come across any statement that Galatasaray made and found to be true. Many people are get serious about Osimhen as it has been heard in many places that Osimhen is not play well and will be replace by another player. If that happens this Galatasaray team will be weak but Osimhen does not play well he puts a lot of pressure.

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Quote from: bering on November 18, 2024, 03:39:02 AM

Inter Milan had a plan that they want to loan Federico Chiesa from Liverpool and Inter Milan president Beppe Marotta has good connection with Federico Chiesa agent so he was confident that Inter Milan can loan Federico Chiesa this January and Liverpool gets Federico Chiesa with cheap price and he was expected can able to compete with other Liverpool players such as Mo Salah or Diaz but unfortunately Federico Chiesa didn't gets much opportunities to play even this season Federico Chiesa only played 3 times by Arne Slot in all competitions and this situation maybe will makes Federico Chiesa to thinking this offers and moved to Inter Milan

If the plan is true, Arne Slot might allow him to join Inter because rather than Arne having to change the position of a player who is currently very stable, it would be better to loan Federico Chiesa. But it all depends on the player himself whether Cheisa wants to accept the offer.
Maybe Chiesa could accept the offer because he was once in Serie A and when he was with Inter, his career would still be fine.

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Quote from: SmartCharpa on November 18, 2024, 04:00:38 AM

They want every manager to produce excellent results in every game, but Roma management has failed to bring quality players to the team, Roma has had different managers in the past two seasons, and the team has failed to finish among the top four at the end of the season. The club's failure to sign many players during the transfer window was the source of Roma's problems, not the managers. De Rossi did well for the team when he was hired by Roma, but as the season came to an end, they performed worse and just made it to the Europa League. Although Mourinho and De Rossi are better managers, the team lacked patience and produced poor players.

However, they bought a new striker, and we feel Roma will pose a threat to any opponent this season, but they are now in the middle of the table with 13 points. Artem Dovbyk may even regret his move to Roma, because he has scored 12 goals in all competitions, but the team's position remains unchanged. Let's see where they finish under Ranieri this season.

I really agree with the opinion you expressed about AS Roma who failed to get many quality players into their squad in the last transfer window. And yes, this is also what could have made things difficult for their coach at that time, namely De Rossi. And we have known for a long time that AS Roma does not buy many expensive players in the transfer market compared to other big clubs. And about Artem Dovbyk, this player actually has qualities that are beyond doubt. Moreover, he is a player who managed to become one of the top scorers in Laliga last season with Girona. And maybe he might regret it now because he left Girona. But if AS Roma manages to bounce back then Artem Dovbyk certainly won't regret his choice. Now everything will depend on Ranieri. Will he be able to change the performance of this club or not. If it still fails then I think big changes must be made. Starting with buying more quality players and bringing in the best coaches possible. But I hope Ranieri manages to improve everything this season.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 17, 2024, 02:45:29 PM

It seems to me that after all these hasty dismissals it is obvious that Roma's management is messing around. Good tactical decisions and temporary improvements do not change the strategic picture - even De Rossi, with maximum luck and a convenient calendar, ended up finishing the season worse than Mourinho. I don't know what might change in Roma with the arrival of Ranieri, I repeat: Roma is a mid-table club, they need to get used to this idea.

They want every manager to produce excellent results in every game, but Roma management has failed to bring quality players to the team, Roma has had different managers in the past two seasons, and the team has failed to finish among the top four at the end of the season. The club's failure to sign many players during the transfer window was the source of Roma's problems, not the managers. De Rossi did well for the team when he was hired by Roma, but as the season came to an end, they performed worse and just made it to the Europa League. Although Mourinho and De Rossi are better managers, the team lacked patience and produced poor players.

However, they bought a new striker, and we feel Roma will pose a threat to any opponent this season, but they are now in the middle of the table with 13 points. Artem Dovbyk may even regret his move to Roma, because he has scored 12 goals in all competitions, but the team's position remains unchanged. Let's see where they finish under Ranieri this season.

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Inter Milan had a plan that they want to loan Federico Chiesa from Liverpool and Inter Milan president Beppe Marotta has good connection with Federico Chiesa agent so he was confident that Inter Milan can loan Federico Chiesa this January and Liverpool gets Federico Chiesa with cheap price and he was expected can able to compete with other Liverpool players such as Mo Salah or Diaz but unfortunately Federico Chiesa didn't gets much opportunities to play even this season Federico Chiesa only played 3 times by Arne Slot in all competitions and this situation maybe will makes Federico Chiesa to thinking this offers and moved to Inter Milan

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Quote from: Iranus on November 18, 2024, 02:54:33 AM

Mourinho was a very experienced coach. But even then, Roma management took the decision to fire Mourinho. I would say that it was a big mistake by Roma. And this season, Roma management is realizing their mistake well.

Roma's squad is not strong enough. Roma management also provided Mourinho with big funds to buy players. Even then, with the help of Mourinho, Roma was able to qualify for the Europa League every season. If Roma management had provided Mourinho with enough funds to buy players, Mourinho would have been able to strengthen this team even more.

Roma is performing very badly this season. Roma has won only 3 matches. And now Roma is in 12th place in the points table. Roma is 11 points behind Juventus, who are in 6th place in the table. It is impossible for Roma to qualify for the Europa League.

There was no wrong move made by Roma management when they fired Mourinho because at this time the Roma team's performance continues to decline precisely after Roma management took the step that was able to save Roma last season.

Indeed, with the financial limitations of the Roma team, the coach must be able to compete like De Rossi did last season, I think Roma's financial problems which are not so strong cannot be used as an excuse.

Now let's forget what has passed, Roma management has taken the right step by bringing in a very experienced coach, namely Claudio Ranieri, I think this season is still quite long and there is still time for Claudio Ranieri to fix the Roma team, I am quite optimistic about that.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 17, 2024, 10:50:14 PM

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 17, 2024, 02:47:00 PM

They didn't just pick a new coach, but they appointed someone who understands Italian football and I think that is a step in the right direction which will in turn yield a positive result for them before the end of the season. Claudio Ranieri is a seasoned coach who won the English premier League with Leicester city some years back and am sure with his wealth of experience he would turn As Roma into a formidable team giving the time and his employers wouldn't regret their decision of appointing him manager at this point in time.

What I wonder is why Roma did not appoint an experienced coach who has many achievements since the beginning when they decided to fire Jose Mourinho? Even though Roma should have known that appointing a coach who has a good history would be good for them in the future. De Rossi and Ivan Juric do not have much good experience in any league, that is what caused Roma's performance to get worse, now they have fixed their mistakes and have appointed the right coach, hopefully Ranieri can revive the team's spirit again.

I also hope Ranieri can revive AS Roma's spirit from the mistakes in making coaching decisions due to the delay in finding an experienced coach who has also achieved a lot, and Ranieri will also be Roma's third coach this season, after Daniele De Rossi who was fired after four games with negative results, followed by Ivan Juric who failed to bring change to AS Roma. And Ranieri in his first match at AS Roma will face Napoli who are currently at the top of the standings, and this is a tough match and will be a tough initial task for Ranieri.

I remember, the last time Ranieri coached a football club when he was at Caglairi. It was not so long, probably june mid-year. I think he's quite capable of helping Roma bounce back, though, it won't be big as what we have expected. As long as they free from the relegation zone, and it will satisfy all of Roma fans.

Roma is in a critical condition now, They need a savior to save from them far away from the relegation zone. Hopefully, Ranieri is the man for the job.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on November 18, 2024, 02:25:29 AM

Lolz, Roma can do better than finishing on the mid table because they have done it before with Mourinho and I believe that they can still do it again. If only they can get a good coach and offload some players in order for them to bring in new ones. Sacking Mourinho was the beginning of their doom day, imagine a club like Roma sacked a world class coach like Mourinho who transformed them from being an average club to a strong club. They bite more than they can chew and now they're suffering for it.

I hope their new coach fate will not be the same as their last thred coaches, and if it happens like that, it means the problem is from Roma management.

Mourinho was a very experienced coach. But even then, Roma management took the decision to fire Mourinho. I would say that it was a big mistake by Roma. And this season, Roma management is realizing their mistake well.

Roma's squad is not strong enough. Roma management also provided Mourinho with big funds to buy players. Even then, with the help of Mourinho, Roma was able to qualify for the Europa League every season. If Roma management had provided Mourinho with enough funds to buy players, Mourinho would have been able to strengthen this team even more.

Roma is performing very badly this season. Roma has won only 3 matches. And now Roma is in 12th place in the points table. Roma is 11 points behind Juventus, who are in 6th place in the table. It is impossible for Roma to qualify for the Europa League.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 17, 2024, 02:45:29 PM

Quote from: len01 on November 17, 2024, 04:17:56 AM

Regarding choosing De Rossi who is believed to have a positive impact on the team, that is a management mistake.
And now if the management hopes that Claudio Ranieri can make a change, I am sure he can make a positive impact. But I hope the management must be more patient. Because the financial situation experienced by Roma will be a problem in the long term.
Maybe after the transfer market reopens, Claudio Ranieri can make a positive impact that can be felt by Roma.

It seems to me that after all these hasty dismissals it is obvious that Roma's management is messing around. Good tactical decisions and temporary improvements do not change the strategic picture - even De Rossi, with maximum luck and a convenient calendar, ended up finishing the season worse than Mourinho. I don't know what might change in Roma with the arrival of Ranieri, I repeat: Roma is a mid-table club, they need to get used to this idea.

Lolz, Roma can do better than finishing on the mid table because they have done it before with Mourinho and I believe that they can still do it again. If only they can get a good coach and offload some players in order for them to bring in new ones. Sacking Mourinho was the beginning of their doom day, imagine a club like Roma sacked a world class coach like Mourinho who transformed them from being an average club to a strong club. They bite more than they can chew and now they're suffering for it.

I hope their new coach fate will not be the same as their last thred coaches, and if it happens like that, it means the problem is from Roma management.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 17, 2024, 10:50:14 PM

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 17, 2024, 02:47:00 PM

They didn't just pick a new coach, but they appointed someone who understands Italian football and I think that is a step in the right direction which will in turn yield a positive result for them before the end of the season. Claudio Ranieri is a seasoned coach who won the English premier League with Leicester city some years back and am sure with his wealth of experience he would turn As Roma into a formidable team giving the time and his employers wouldn't regret their decision of appointing him manager at this point in time.

What I wonder is why Roma did not appoint an experienced coach who has many achievements since the beginning when they decided to fire Jose Mourinho? Even though Roma should have known that appointing a coach who has a good history would be good for them in the future. De Rossi and Ivan Juric do not have much good experience in any league, that is what caused Roma's performance to get worse, now they have fixed their mistakes and have appointed the right coach, hopefully Ranieri can revive the team's spirit again.

I also hope Ranieri can revive AS Roma's spirit from the mistakes in making coaching decisions due to the delay in finding an experienced coach who has also achieved a lot, and Ranieri will also be Roma's third coach this season, after Daniele De Rossi who was fired after four games with negative results, followed by Ivan Juric who failed to bring change to AS Roma. And Ranieri in his first match at AS Roma will face Napoli who are currently at the top of the standings, and this is a tough match and will be a tough initial task for Ranieri.

Of course this is a difficult job for Claudio Ranieri because Roma this season has been very depressed after firing two coaches in a fairly close time so that makes the target for Claudio Ranieri very difficult.
However, Claudio Ranieri is a fairly experienced coach so even though this is a difficult job, Claudio Ranieri still has a large percentage to be able to solve the problems that exist in the AS Roma team at this time.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 17, 2024, 02:45:29 PM

Quote from: len01 on November 17, 2024, 04:17:56 AM

Regarding choosing De Rossi who is believed to have a positive impact on the team, that is a management mistake.
And now if the management hopes that Claudio Ranieri can make a change, I am sure he can make a positive impact. But I hope the management must be more patient. Because the financial situation experienced by Roma will be a problem in the long term.
Maybe after the transfer market reopens, Claudio Ranieri can make a positive impact that can be felt by Roma.

It seems to me that after all these hasty dismissals it is obvious that Roma's management is messing around. Good tactical decisions and temporary improvements do not change the strategic picture - even De Rossi, with maximum luck and a convenient calendar, ended up finishing the season worse than Mourinho. I don't know what might change in Roma with the arrival of Ranieri, I repeat: Roma is a mid-table club, they need to get used to this idea.

The coach is not the only metric determining the result of the team. We always forgot that if Roma have mid-table squad. it wouldn't matter how many times they changed their coach, the result would always be the same.

I think the only solution is to overhaul the club, not only the coach, but the squad. This solution will likely give them the best outcome. It is better than always trying to change the coach but keep the same squad.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 17, 2024, 10:10:41 PM

Quote from: Lida93 on November 17, 2024, 02:47:00 PM

They didn't just pick a new coach, but they appointed someone who understands Italian football and I think that is a step in the right direction which will in turn yield a positive result for them before the end of the season. Claudio Ranieri is a seasoned coach who won the English premier League with Leicester city some years back and am sure with his wealth of experience he would turn As Roma into a formidable team giving the time and his employers wouldn't regret their decision of appointing him manager at this point in time.

What I wonder is why Roma did not appoint an experienced coach who has many achievements since the beginning when they decided to fire Jose Mourinho? Even though Roma should have known that appointing a coach who has a good history would be good for them in the future. De Rossi and Ivan Juric do not have much good experience in any league, that is what caused Roma's performance to get worse, now they have fixed their mistakes and have appointed the right coach, hopefully Ranieri can revive the team's spirit again.

I also hope Ranieri can revive AS Roma's spirit from the mistakes in making coaching decisions due to the delay in finding an experienced coach who has also achieved a lot, and Ranieri will also be Roma's third coach this season, after Daniele De Rossi who was fired after four games with negative results, followed by Ivan Juric who failed to bring change to AS Roma. And Ranieri in his first match at AS Roma will face Napoli who are currently at the top of the standings, and this is a tough match and will be a tough initial task for Ranieri.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 17, 2024, 02:47:00 PM

They didn't just pick a new coach, but they appointed someone who understands Italian football and I think that is a step in the right direction which will in turn yield a positive result for them before the end of the season. Claudio Ranieri is a seasoned coach who won the English premier League with Leicester city some years back and am sure with his wealth of experience he would turn As Roma into a formidable team giving the time and his employers wouldn't regret their decision of appointing him manager at this point in time.

What I wonder is why Roma did not appoint an experienced coach who has many achievements since the beginning when they decided to fire Jose Mourinho? Even though Roma should have known that appointing a coach who has a good history would be good for them in the future. De Rossi and Ivan Juric do not have much good experience in any league, that is what caused Roma's performance to get worse, now they have fixed their mistakes and have appointed the right coach, hopefully Ranieri can revive the team's spirit again.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on November 17, 2024, 07:00:12 AM

It is true that Paul Pogba has officially become a free agent but I find it difficult to believe the rumors suggesting that Galatasaray is interested in signing him. Paul Pogba is injury prone and with his doping scandal, I don't think that they will want to associate themselves with such a high risk player. Pogba’s reputation is damaged and so is his value in the transfer market, no top club would want to risk signing him despite his abilities on the pitch.

I'd want to see him join the Saudi's or that of the top clubs in MLS league possibly Inter Miami bit I don't, these are just speculations made.
I can agree he is Injury prone but the doping scandal has no such reduction on his reputation. I solid club would even want to work with him. Didn't you see how France national team missed him during the European championship competition? There's nothing damaged about this player, this is just your own opinion on this great player.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 17, 2024, 02:45:29 PM

It seems to me that after all these hasty dismissals it is obvious that Roma's management is messing around. Good tactical decisions and temporary improvements do not change the strategic picture - even De Rossi, with maximum luck and a convenient calendar, ended up finishing the season worse than Mourinho. I don't know what might change in Roma with the arrival of Ranieri, I repeat: Roma is a mid-table club, they need to get used to this idea.

Yes, a hasty change of coach will not be the right solution for Roma. Maybe if you look at it, it seems like the situation in Rome is really chaotic, that's why Roma is always in a hurry to fire the coach in order to get instant results. Even though this is very difficult to achieve, if Roma continues to change coaches like now, I think it will continue to worsen Roma's condition. The reason is, the new coach will of course come with a new strategy which will definitely make the Roma players have to adapt to this again. Therefore, I think that Roma will continue to experience performance instability if they continue to change coaches like now. However, in my opinion, currently Roma is trapped in this situation, so to get out of this, Roma must be able to entrust its players to one coach. So hopefully the arrival of Ranieri as the new coach at Roma can get Roma out of this quite difficult zone.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 17, 2024, 02:47:00 PM

They didn't just pick a new coach, but they appointed someone who understands Italian football and I think that is a step in the right direction which will in turn yield a positive result for them before the end of the season. Claudio Ranieri is a seasoned coach who won the English premier League with Leicester city some years back and am sure with his wealth of experience he would turn As Roma into a formidable team giving the time and his employers wouldn't regret their decision of appointing him manager at this point in time.

Maybe an experienced coach can change AS Roma for better direction in the future, but one thing you forget is Serie A is different from several other leagues and here every season there is always surprise where even the lower team can increase significantly and Reaching the Scudetto, no one can really maintain stable performance and this is big challenge for Claudio Ranieri.
Anyone likes Claudio Ranieri coaching style but here he must return to understand everything from the beginning, if it works then it is very good even though I bit skeptical with all this

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.....And he said, he will return to being a coach only if 2 clubs invite him, namely "AS Roma or Cagliari". ........

He has strong bond with Rome and AS Roma invitation is like an offer that can not be refused by Ranieri. AS Roma is in big crisis and Ranieri is ready to help them with a contract till the season ending. His very first tasks is to help Roma improving their performances, and ranking up in Serie A table.

Yes, of course, he has a close bond with AS Roma, besides the fact that he was born in Rome and he also played for AS Roma, even being a graduate of Roma U19, that's why, when he got the offer, he agreed to do it again. But yes, his task is actually quite heavy because he has to lift the club from 12th position, which is quite bad. However, many believe that he is able to do it like de Rossi did last season, even much better, because at least Ranieri still has more time to overhaul or re-manage the squad and his strategy more maturely, based on his experience and assessment of AS Roma's performance so far.

Quote from: bitgolden on November 17, 2024, 03:21:02 PM

It's great to hear that Pogba could actually play for some other team, but I would say if any team wants to get him, at least get him for 1.5 years to make sense. He will be joining the team by January, but only get to play by march, and that's not really that much of a profitable thing to keep him playing for only less than 3 months total because most teams end their games by end of May

The more here the more rumors of the association of several clubs with Pogba. After officially becoming a free agent, there are several clubs even clubs from the EPL that are rumored to be associated with him. Even clubs like Newcastle and Man United are associated with Pogba rumors, besides also Galatasaray and Saudi clubs are also connected. And even he is always associated with the Ligue 1 club, Marseille. Well. let's see then where he will be.

What is clear is that the latest news about Pogba at the moment, as well as refuting rumors that he will be training at Man United, is as follows:

Source: Reports of Paul Pogba set to train at Manchester United’s Carrington are not true

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 16, 2024, 09:21:42 AM

Pogba has really become a free agent officially.

There are already rumours out on the internet about his potential next team. Galatasaray rumours are getting bigger these days. It is said that they have been offered to sign him already. Do you know anything about how true it is? Huh

I wouldn't be surprised if Galatasaray is really interested. They have drawn attention to themselves after that Osimhen loan already you know. Grin

I wonder whether this Pogba signing will also get real soon.

Galatasaray wouldn't be a bad starting point of eventually it happens Pogba is able to secure a contract there, literally they will be needing him after osimhen exit which is in anticipation he will be the next prominent face there that will be known, only that he still remains as fit as he's has always been then that will be a really huge advantage for Galatasaray if these rumors are true. Juventus not continuing with him could be on some grounds one of which I think may be that they are seeing he's got pass his prime.

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Galatasasray already got Victor Osimhen this season and we know that they had Icardi and Ziyech as well. So seems like they are becoming a proper rehabilitation centre for Europe, any player who doesn't feel fine at their club, leaves and joins to galataray and sometimes they do great and sometimes they do not do great. Like Icardi got a lot of love from the fans, but Ziyech didn't get much attention to be fair, Osimhen is just too new to decide but I am seeing people are obviously happy about it as well.

If Pogba joins and doesn't get injured and plays decently then we could see that maybe we will see Pogba get a lot of love again as well. He is not that old neither, so he could play for a few more seasons before they could end up with a good partnership together without a doubt. I am pretty sure that Pogba would be happy there but the amount of money is the important part, he was paid a lot before all of this, wonder how much he will make now.

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