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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 15, 2024, 02:57:47 PM

[...] Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

Nobody knows for sure about that, you think Juventus needs Paul Pogba, but the Juventus board thinks they don't need Paul Pogba. It could be that what the board thinks is right, because they have more experience than you. There are plenty of better midfielders in the team anyway, which is probably one of the reasons Juventus don't want him anymore.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 16, 2024, 02:38:21 AM

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I don’t think Paul Pogba will be the same as a young player with potential who doesn’t get playing time. Pogba was one of the best midfielders in the world a few years ago. He has a lot of experience and I think his ability is beyond doubt. But I think the main problem is that Pogba is currently in a decline. He is past his peak. He has experience but he will find it difficult to compete with the current world-class midfielders. I think it will be difficult for a big club to sign him because he is not the Pogba of the past. Yes he can try to play in a mid-table club but the problem is can Pogba accept a lower salary? I just hope Pogba can be like De Gea who is back playing and his performance is still quite good. But of course we can’t compare a goalkeeper with a midfielder.

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Quote from: Mustang Shelby on November 16, 2024, 02:45:31 AM

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I think Paul Pogba, who hasn't played for a long time, will need to play football for a while to get used to it. Because as far as I know, Juventus didn't let Paul Pogba use their training facilities. If he wants to go to a big team, his priority may be to be in a mid-level team where he can play constantly. He will probably gain free status in March and a short-term agreement can be reached with a team where he can play. I think Juventus will terminate his contract with him.

Paul Pogba status has been confirmed many times and Juventus has no intention of accepting him back into the main squad. And yes, he is now a free agent with no ties to Juventus but for now we have no European clubs interested in getting his signature.

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The difference or me just shows that a rapid displacement can actually happen with any of the team so neither of them can be sure already if staying at the top as the difference could be made up for within two matches and interestingly not even Napoli at the top of the table is completely safe from this, and untill mid season some teams.ay not be sure if they are going to secure a spot at the top four. And a broader score difference has to be created to be sure who's going to stay ahead of others continuously.

Yeah, after Napoli got 2 bad results in the last fight, we can say there are no safe teams at the top of the standings because only 1-2 points adrift even Juventus who are in the 6th position can take over the standings at any time they only need to win one match to get 3 points. This season looks more competitive since the last few seasons we see the dominance of 2 teams in Serie A and this is a positive trend for the league. On the other hand Atalanta and Fiorentina caught our attention after a successive wins in the last 5 matches.

Juventus can take over the top position of the standings if the clubs above it only get a draw or lose but in my opinion, among the top 5 teams it is impossible for them to experience defeat at the same time or draw at the same time, what is clear is that the top 5 positions will still change because the points difference between them is too close but in my opinion that is what makes it interesting.

There are 7 teams at the top of the Serie A standings currently that have a fairly close points gap so that changes are possible in just 1 week and nothing is impossible, especially since the top Serie A teams have not been able to maintain their consistent performance until now, including Juventus.
Fierce competition continues to occur at the top and I think that currently the order in the standings is not so important because the points gap is very close but how a team maintains the quality and consistency of its team is very much needed and I think Juventus also has to evaluate a lot for that because their team has not shown its best performance.

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The difference or me just shows that a rapid displacement can actually happen with any of the team so neither of them can be sure already if staying at the top as the difference could be made up for within two matches and interestingly not even Napoli at the top of the table is completely safe from this, and untill mid season some teams.ay not be sure if they are going to secure a spot at the top four. And a broader score difference has to be created to be sure who's going to stay ahead of others continuously.

Yeah, after Napoli got 2 bad results in the last fight, we can say there are no safe teams at the top of the standings because only 1-2 points adrift even Juventus who are in the 6th position can take over the standings at any time they only need to win one match to get 3 points. This season looks more competitive since the last few seasons we see the dominance of 2 teams in Serie A and this is a positive trend for the league. On the other hand Atalanta and Fiorentina caught our attention after a successive wins in the last 5 matches.

Juventus can take over the top position of the standings if the clubs above it only get a draw or lose but in my opinion, among the top 5 teams it is impossible for them to experience defeat at the same time or draw at the same time, what is clear is that the top 5 positions will still change because the points difference between them is too close but in my opinion that is what makes it interesting.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 16, 2024, 02:38:21 AM

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I can say that Paul Pogba has been forgotten by them. He has been away from football for so long that I don't think he will find a big team that will want to sign him. Maybe he can go to a few mid-level teams in France. I don't think big teams will want to sign Pogba there either. Maybe Marseille might want to sign him. Other than that, I don't think any big team will add him to their squad. I don't think he is wanted at Juventus either because he has done great damage to the team.

Paul Pogba has not played for a long time, even though he continues to train independently, but when the player has not played on the field for a long time, it will also affect their game. We can see from the reserve players for example, several times we talk about potential young players who should be given more playing minutes, yes, it is none other than to increase their flying hours. Although Pogba is considered an experienced player, it still has to be honed on the field, because if not, it is very possible that he will lose his touch when playing. It should also be remembered that this is a team game, so chemistry must also be built. The question is how can you have chemistry if you haven't played for a long time.

I think Paul Pogba, who hasn't played for a long time, will need to play football for a while to get used to it. Because as far as I know, Juventus didn't let Paul Pogba use their training facilities. If he wants to go to a big team, his priority may be to be in a mid-level team where he can play constantly. He will probably gain free status in March and a short-term agreement can be reached with a team where he can play. I think Juventus will terminate his contract with him.

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Quote from: Mustang Shelby on November 16, 2024, 01:50:12 AM

I can say that Paul Pogba has been forgotten by them. He has been away from football for so long that I don't think he will find a big team that will want to sign him. Maybe he can go to a few mid-level teams in France. I don't think big teams will want to sign Pogba there either. Maybe Marseille might want to sign him. Other than that, I don't think any big team will add him to their squad. I don't think he is wanted at Juventus either because he has done great damage to the team.

Paul Pogba has not played for a long time, even though he continues to train independently, but when the player has not played on the field for a long time, it will also affect their game. We can see from the reserve players for example, several times we talk about potential young players who should be given more playing minutes, yes, it is none other than to increase their flying hours. Although Pogba is considered an experienced player, it still has to be honed on the field, because if not, it is very possible that he will lose his touch when playing. It should also be remembered that this is a team game, so chemistry must also be built. The question is how can you have chemistry if you haven't played for a long time.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 15, 2024, 10:47:13 PM

In terms of experience and achievements, of course Claudio Ranieri is better than Ivan Juric and De Rossi, I can say Ranieri is probably the same as Jose Mourinho who is more experienced in handling clubs so we can be a little optimistic about Roma's future performance, they must be patient in responding to the process and not rush to make decisions in firing the coach. I remember Napoli last season who changed coaches 3 times during 1 season and finally they got worse so changing coaches in a short time will make the club even more uncontrollable.

Just hope that his experience will help Roma overcome its challenges. His age might also be a disadvantage because at 73 the Italian might not be strong enough to give his best to the club. These days younger coaches are taking over the managerial space and they are doing exceptionally well. I might not be correct but I believe that Daniele De Rossi would have been the best for Roma. We saw how he brought Roma out of obscurity and made them qualify for the Europa. But the club management hastily sacked him and brought in Ivan Juric which turned out to become worse.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 15, 2024, 02:57:47 PM

Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

Both Juventus and Paul Pogba are in a different direction now, Paul Pogba is now a free agent, and as you said even though they want to keep him it still long period before he start to play, 4 months from now is very far, assuming he is starting immediately I think he might be considered. On the other hand serie A this season non team have showcase their confidence in winning the title, Napoli that are topping the league are just two points away from Juventus that are sitting in 6th place, up to this moment no one can point or predict the title winner, all top 6 in the table have chances of winning and I don't see Juventus failing out of the race, letting Paul Pogba go will not still affect them because they been doing well when he was on ban, so I don't blame them for their decision to let go of him.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 15, 2024, 06:24:09 PM

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While I do agree that Ranieri is of course better coach than Juric, one day Roma will realize the problem isn't with the coaches but with the players. I mean don't get me wrong, Ivan Juric wasn't a great coach, but he wasn't this bad neither, neither was De Rossi, and obviously not Mourinho neither. They have been firing coaches, it's fourth coach within 1 year span, and they are still firing coaches for bad results.

At least if seen from the experience of both, Ranieri should have more experience and be more convincing. But still, we have to see what his development in the future Roma will be like. Of course, at least we are like hoping when de Rossi was able to raise Roma's position in the last season. Because Roma's current position is only in 12th, this is very bad for a club like Roma.

Oh yeah this is one of the interviews of caludio Ranieri for the beginning in Roma, he also focused on some players. and he observed Roma's game so far to complete the strategy that he will apply.

Source: AS Roma’s new manager Claudio Ranieri

A bit surprised to see Ranieri has decide to accepts Roma offers as a manager because last season he was announce his retirement from football and indeed Ranieri is not new manager in Roma because he was several times to train this team and looking forward to see his arrival effect to Roma whether it will be positive or it just useless but according to the news i can see Roma only give him short term duration contract which mean Ranieri only in charge until this season ended and Roma owner also didn't set high target for Ranieri because they know the condition of the team however Ranieri debut match will be so hard because next weekend they will fight against strong team Napoli

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There is a reason why Juventus did not keep Pogba because he is indeed prone to injuries so he cannot help the team much more. Pogba's ability in midfield is indeed undoubted and he has strength in dribbling or defending but he has difficulty maintaining physical fitness. The case that happened to him also damaged a career that had been built for a long time even though he was one of the best defensive midfielders and there are almost no players as good as him in midfield.

Now the decision will be made by the club who wants to recruit him and hopefully he will come back as a player who has contributed to the club. Otherwise his career will soon be over and there will be no room for him to repeat the success at any club.

Pogba has served a very long ban and also at his age he can no longer perform at his top performance so I think Juventus will not consider accepting Pogba again and I also think that Pogba is no longer worthy of being in a team as big as Juventus that is competing for the title.
Maybe if Pogba wants to play football again he will only be in a team in an uncompetitive league, and I think what Pogba did in the past can no longer be associated, now everything is different.

I can say that Paul Pogba has been forgotten by them. He has been away from football for so long that I don't think he will find a big team that will want to sign him. Maybe he can go to a few mid-level teams in France. I don't think big teams will want to sign Pogba there either. Maybe Marseille might want to sign him. Other than that, I don't think any big team will add him to their squad. I don't think he is wanted at Juventus either because he has done great damage to the team.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 16, 2024, 12:11:46 AM

There is a reason why Juventus did not keep Pogba because he is indeed prone to injuries so he cannot help the team much more. Pogba's ability in midfield is indeed undoubted and he has strength in dribbling or defending but he has difficulty maintaining physical fitness. The case that happened to him also damaged a career that had been built for a long time even though he was one of the best defensive midfielders and there are almost no players as good as him in midfield.

Now the decision will be made by the club who wants to recruit him and hopefully he will come back as a player who has contributed to the club. Otherwise his career will soon be over and there will be no room for him to repeat the success at any club.

Pogba has served a very long ban and also at his age he can no longer perform at his top performance so I think Juventus will not consider accepting Pogba again and I also think that Pogba is no longer worthy of being in a team as big as Juventus that is competing for the title.
Maybe if Pogba wants to play football again he will only be in a team in an uncompetitive league, and I think what Pogba did in the past can no longer be associated, now everything is different.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 15, 2024, 08:26:42 PM

We should not keep Pogba, it's coz he would not help us much at all, though, our squad looks so thin due to the injuries. He hasn't played football for 2 years. This has hurt his performance. He has declined without competitive games. He's also an injury-prone player, and it scares me. he would just likely end up on the injury list, what can we expect from him at all? Nothing!

It's quite sad to see him to have a dystopia tale like this, but, let him to get his bag, and join in his new club.

There is a reason why Juventus did not keep Pogba because he is indeed prone to injuries so he cannot help the team much more. Pogba's ability in midfield is indeed undoubted and he has strength in dribbling or defending but he has difficulty maintaining physical fitness. The case that happened to him also damaged a career that had been built for a long time even though he was one of the best defensive midfielders and there are almost no players as good as him in midfield.

Now the decision will be made by the club who wants to recruit him and hopefully he will come back as a player who has contributed to the club. Otherwise his career will soon be over and there will be no room for him to repeat the success at any club.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 15, 2024, 04:33:20 PM

I'm sure De Gea is happy to see Ten Hag got fired from Manchester Unite because Ten Hag was the reason for De Gea to leave the team and he hired Onana instead of using De Gea while now it seems De Gea's performance is much better than goalkeepers like Onana.
I think De Gea in Fiorentina was the main reason for this team's great performance. They are now even racing in the top side of the Serie A.
Now, regardless of De Gea's age, I think he can play again in the bigger teams because of his current performance.

And I also think if actually regret is felt by Man United. Wink

Whose fault is the team that followed Ten Hag request to fire the great goalkeeper and on the one hand even though he had to wait a season without a team, he still trained independently every day and after Fiorentina found out about this, the team became like finding a hidden gems.
I really praise De Gea greatness even though he had to lose his best team in the EPL, but he must also be proud of the results he is currently getting.

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Not even mid-season AS Roma has changed coaches twice, Roma recently announced the dismissal of Ivan Juric, AS Roma experienced a series of bad results with De Rossi and also Ivan Juric this season.
Ivan Juric has played 12 matches with Roma in all competitions and only won 4, 3 draws and 5 defeats, it was quite bad for Roma until they were in 12th place in the standings and in the Europa League in 20th place. Roma has appointed Claudio Ranieri as the club's manager until the end of this season, will he be able to revive Roma's performance this season amidst the chaos that is happening?

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Ranieri is a good coach, I think he will be much more successful than Juric, but it is very difficult to start working now, the team is in a difficult situation. The question is that I doubt that Roma is ready to allow Ranieri to buy new players, and without this Roma will remain with the same opportunities, and it is not worth counting on something changing now because a new coach has come to the team, they have tried it twice already and the result does not change.

In terms of experience and achievements, of course Claudio Ranieri is better than Ivan Juric and De Rossi, I can say Ranieri is probably the same as Jose Mourinho who is more experienced in handling clubs so we can be a little optimistic about Roma's future performance, they must be patient in responding to the process and not rush to make decisions in firing the coach. I remember Napoli last season who changed coaches 3 times during 1 season and finally they got worse so changing coaches in a short time will make the club even more uncontrollable.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 15, 2024, 09:02:48 PM

Intense pressure made De Gea not play well at Manchester United,

Ten Hag implemented his rhetoric to all players which made conditions not so ineffective for players like De Gea. So If the coach was wrong implement his strategy that made the player play badly and was discarded.

De Gea played very well at Manchester United and he saved them in many matches and seasons. Big change appeared with Ten Hag as a coach, who required De Gea to not only making saves with his hands but also contributing more to the club from the goalkeeper position with passing. Passing is weakness of De Gea and not many goalkeepers in his generation were grew up in academies with passing. De Gea is a goalkeeper from a previous generation, and he is different than younger goalkeepers who were trained and grew up with passing as one of main skills for modern goalkeepers.

It's biggest reason for De Gea failure in Manchester United under Ten Hag and he had to leave the club. Anyway, years later Ten Hag failed and was sacked weeks ago, and success in Fiorentina is like a strong voice from De Gea to prove that Ten Hag was wrong about De Gea's ability.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 15, 2024, 06:01:08 PM

At some point it almost felt like ten hag had a thing on de gea's career because after he refused him been part of the Manchester United team, his career did had a set back that almost broke him but somehow he found his way out and now he's got a team, for the first time in his career he was a free agent for the longest so it's going to be like ten hag should have similar experience a d see what exactly it does feels like at this time but I don't think de gea will be of that stance of been happy than ten hag lost his job.

Intense pressure made De Gea not play well at Manchester United,

Ten Hag implemented his rhetoric to all players which made conditions not so ineffective for players like De Gea. So If the coach was wrong implement his strategy that made the player play badly and was discarded.

In Fiorentina, De Gea played well and looked enjoy when got direction from Palladino.
So I think it depends on who the coach is. Any great player out there will not develop yet or tend to be bad if the coach implements his ego.
We also look at how Moise Kean played, because, at Juventus, he played badly also, he never scored a goal in the previous session, but in Fiorentina, he became a monster and became 2nd the top scorer also after Mateo Retegui in Serie A.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 15, 2024, 08:26:42 PM

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Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

We should not keep Pogba, it's coz he would not help us much at all, though, our squad looks so thin due to the injuries. He hasn't played football for 2 years. This has hurt his performance. He has declined without competitive games. He's also an injury-prone player, and it scares me. he would just likely end up on the injury list, what can we expect from him at all? Nothing!

It's quite sad to see him to have a dystopia tale like this, but, let him to get his bag, and join in his new club.

Pogba had a brilliant career. But he destroyed his own career. I would say Pogba was not very hardworking. Because of this we have seen his performance decline day by day. He has played with big teams like Manchester United and Juventus. Even then Pogba's overall performance was not consistent. And Pogba has been out of the squad for a few years due to injury problems. Pogba played 6 matches in the 2022-23 season and only 2 matches in the 23-24 season.

Juventus' overall condition is not good now. At least I think so. Because Juventus has shared points in 6 matches out of 12 matches. If Juventus' target is to win the title then I would say Juventus management should strengthen their squad more. And bring in another player as a replacement for Pogba. However, if Juventus management is happy to be in the top four of the table, then maybe we will see Pogba in a Juventus jersey this season as well. Even if Pogba does not perform well, he may get a chance in the Juve squad.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 15, 2024, 02:57:47 PM

Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

We should not keep Pogba, it's coz he would not help us much at all, though, our squad looks so thin due to the injuries. He hasn't played football for 2 years. This has hurt his performance. He has declined without competitive games. He's also an injury-prone player, and it scares me. he would just likely end up on the injury list, what can we expect from him at all? Nothing!

It's quite sad to see him to have a dystopia tale like this, but, let him to get his bag, and join in his new club.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 15, 2024, 02:57:47 PM

Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

Pogba is 31, but it is an effective footballer, and keeping him can make Juventus’s mid-field deeper, which is a very necessary strategy when the competition is getting fiercer every year. In fact he is quite young with the experience that will enable him to give his best if fully supported. Clearly, Napoli and Atalanta have been performing great in the season, but integrating such a steady and quality performer as Pogba will help the Old Lady maintain a level of play that will allow Juventus to ratings among the top contenders for the championship. We are just going to wait and see how the decision made by the club will assist the club in achieving their targets.

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