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after Juventus was heavily penalized yesterday with 15 points less in the standings, the discourse that applies to the race for places in the European cups changes a bit, now Roma and Atalanta will have one more chance to be able to obtain a placement that allows them leads to the Champions League next year, among other things the punishments for the facts against Juventus didn't end up with only 15 points but there is also talk of higher penalties

But on the other hand, fortunately at this time they were only reduced by 15 points in this matter and did not go to Serie B next season because even though their points were reduced their position was still in the highest truth and it was still quite good.
Now clearly with Juventus points today, several other clubs have the current hope to fight for positions in the top 4.

But on the other hand I saw several other reports about Juventus who were preparing to appeal about this sentence to Collegio in accordance with the provisions of the Sports Court Code because they felt this could still be considered.

certainly Juventus will not stand by and watch, they will take action to appeal this sentence which penalized them by 15 points! on the other hand, I remember that they have been appealing and counter-appealing about Calciopoli for at least 16 years without ever winning a single one. however the punishment apparently will not stop only at the 15 penalty points but there will be other penalties to come

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on January 21, 2023, 06:48:08 PM

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There will be no key players that will be leaving the club until the next transfer season. Osimhen has been even stating if he wanna stay even longer in napoli. Osimhen wanna stay until the end of the season to make sure if osimhen can get a trophy with napoli. Osimhen will be leaving from the club after napoli will become a winner. The result could be predicted easily. It seems napoli continues its win streak in serie a. I'm so glad that about how loyal osimhen with its club, he chooses to stay even longer rather than try to move into the new team that gave him big offer.

Currently Napoli is at the top of the standings and has a very high winning record so that Napoli's position at the top of the standings is difficult to shift so this makes Osimhen consider continuing to provide full support for Napoli until they finally win the Serie A League this season. However, if Osimhen gets a bigger offer of money, it is likely that Osimhen will not refuse it, unless Osimhen has very high loyalty and responsibility towards Napoli.

Well I really appreciate Osimhen's statement that he still wants to stay at Napoli. and it seems that Napoli really wants to keep Osimhen. And one of the teams that has a great desire to recruit Osimhen is MU. But the good news is that Napoli have set a very high tariff for Osimhen, which is around 150 million euros. and this is Napoli's attempt to discourage MU from buying the Striker. I myself still want to see Osimhen longer in Serie A.

Osimhen is playing really well in Napoli. And Napoli also playing well right now. They are at the top of the table right now and it is quite obvious that they are the best team in this league. So, it is not going to make any sense for Osimhen to leave the team right now and try to get settled in another club. Unless he really wants to play in Europe. So, I am going to say that he took a great decision by staying at Napoli. If he actually goes to any European team, especially Manchester United, it is going to be a big mistake.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on January 21, 2023, 04:45:23 PM

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I feel sorry for Juventus, this is a time that they are trying so hard to improve and build their confidence in the league, taking off 15 points from the team feels like too much punishment. I feel sympathy for them dropping all the way from third position to mid table, this will be so frustrating for the players. I hope they can bear this and still push on till the end. This is indeed a huge blow for the club and the entire team.

When I first heard that 15 points would be deducted from Juventus' points due to previous transfer deals, I felt sorry for them. Moving from third place with 37 points to mid-table in 11th place is very disheartening after so much collective effort by the players to earn those points. Without a doubt, this will erode the players' morale and desire to play and win matches in the future. I hope they get through this phase with the team intact.

There is nothing to feel sorry for because it was also a mistake made by the Juventus management, so they must be able to accept the risk. Also, the penalty for deducting 15 points is still a light punishment, because previously there were rumors circulating that Juventus' penalty was relegation and Juvantus had experienced that too in the past. Even in the past, after Juventus was relegated, and the Scudetto title won by Juventus was removed and given to Inter.
So yes, for me Juventus are still lucky to only get punished by only deducting points in this case. But about the enthusiasm of the players, I think they will be even more ambitious to prove that they can still rise, and I'm sure of that.

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I am interested to see the match results between Spezia vs Roma because as mediocre team Spezia has successfully to improved a lot and their defense which is became an their main issue seems already solved by their manager because from latest 3 matches Spezia only conceded 2 goals and compared to their performance before international break this is much better on the other hand i know Roma performance quite better now and one of their best performance is when they can able to steal point from Milan but i am curious to see Roma consistency today because sometimes they slipped while against mediocre teams and for this match considering both teams have a type of game that with good defense i think the match result will be ended with slim score so under 2.5 goals probably good

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on January 21, 2023, 06:48:08 PM

Well I really appreciate Osimhen's statement that he still wants to stay at Napoli. and it seems that Napoli really wants to keep Osimhen. And one of the teams that has a great desire to recruit Osimhen is MU. But the good news is that Napoli have set a very high tariff for Osimhen, which is around 150 million euros. and this is Napoli's attempt to discourage MU from buying the Striker. I myself still want to see Osimhen longer in Serie A.

MU may able to buy him rather than try to spent bunch of money for kane which was not even worthed. Osimhen is still young. MU has capability to buy him from napoli but osimhen was very loyal to his club. Napoli must be so thankful with him caused by his decision that was making napoli still able to get win streak again. We will have a new winner to take scudetto soon. Napoli seems unbeatable at this moment which was making the way to get scudetto become even more easy than before.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on January 21, 2023, 06:34:27 PM

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There will be no key players that will be leaving the club until the next transfer season. Osimhen has been even stating if he wanna stay even longer in napoli. Osimhen wanna stay until the end of the season to make sure if osimhen can get a trophy with napoli. Osimhen will be leaving from the club after napoli will become a winner. The result could be predicted easily. It seems napoli continues its win streak in serie a. I'm so glad that about how loyal osimhen with its club, he chooses to stay even longer rather than try to move into the new team that gave him big offer.

Currently Napoli is at the top of the standings and has a very high winning record so that Napoli's position at the top of the standings is difficult to shift so this makes Osimhen consider continuing to provide full support for Napoli until they finally win the Serie A League this season. However, if Osimhen gets a bigger offer of money, it is likely that Osimhen will not refuse it, unless Osimhen has very high loyalty and responsibility towards Napoli.

Well I really appreciate Osimhen's statement that he still wants to stay at Napoli. and it seems that Napoli really wants to keep Osimhen. And one of the teams that has a great desire to recruit Osimhen is MU. But the good news is that Napoli have set a very high tariff for Osimhen, which is around 150 million euros. and this is Napoli's attempt to discourage MU from buying the Striker. I myself still want to see Osimhen longer in Serie A.

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Quote from: X-ray on January 21, 2023, 06:05:21 PM

There will be no key players that will be leaving the club until the next transfer season. Osimhen has been even stating if he wanna stay even longer in napoli. Osimhen wanna stay until the end of the season to make sure if osimhen can get a trophy with napoli. Osimhen will be leaving from the club after napoli will become a winner. The result could be predicted easily. It seems napoli continues its win streak in serie a. I'm so glad that about how loyal osimhen with its club, he chooses to stay even longer rather than try to move into the new team that gave him big offer.

Currently Napoli is at the top of the standings and has a very high winning record so that Napoli's position at the top of the standings is difficult to shift so this makes Osimhen consider continuing to provide full support for Napoli until they finally win the Serie A League this season. However, if Osimhen gets a bigger offer of money, it is likely that Osimhen will not refuse it, unless Osimhen has very high loyalty and responsibility towards Napoli.

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Quote from: snipie on January 21, 2023, 05:49:14 PM

Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on January 21, 2023, 04:46:58 PM

Torino is trying everything possible to end this game with winning.foirentina is playing a better ball than torino because their the one donating the field with ball possession. Let see what will happen at the end of the match may be foirentina will try to equalize the goal.

Torino is always annoying the top teams and take points from them. Well Fiorentina is normal team this season and failed to score although opportunities they have. They are generating players to sell rather than competing for titles..

Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on January 21, 2023, 04:46:58 PM

Match juventus against atalanta is going to be a tough match tomorrow because juventus need some winning games to make it hope for serial A competition trophy and I know atalanta is in form which I don't think juventus can win the game despite juventus has been winning it previous home season games. Hope great thing happen to juventus tomorrow by winning the match.

Poor Juve, destroyed psychologically, trying to win vs Atalanta. Although all the drama, Juve still have a slightly better odds than Atalanta.

The giant killer yeah , that's torino.

Beating ac milan twice , held as roma draw and now having fiorentina 0-1 in away game while previously losing to spezia and draw against the 16th position salernitana last week. They are eyeing the european competition , but as it stands .. 8 points away are a tough one to catch whether it's roma , atalanta or lazio at 4th, 5th and 6th.

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Quote from: snipie on January 21, 2023, 05:49:14 PM

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Match juventus against atalanta is going to be a tough match tomorrow because juventus need some winning games to make it hope for serial A competition trophy and I know atalanta is in form which I don't think juventus can win the game despite juventus has been winning it previous home season games. Hope great thing happen to juventus tomorrow by winning the match.

Poor Juve, destroyed psychologically, trying to win vs Atalanta. Although all the drama, Juve still have a slightly better odds than Atalanta.

I think the hope for Juventus to compete for the top spot in Serie A this season has become a bit impossible. Napoli now has 50 points. while Juventus have lost 15 of their points due to the sanctions received by Juventus. (but still in the process of appeal / hopefully this sanction is canceled and Juventus get back their points.) for a while at this time Juventus now only has 22 points. the difference of 28 points with Napoli's position at the top is indeed very heavy. But if Juventus continues to win every game they have left this season then I think it is still possible for Juventus to be in the top 2-5. and of course this can happen if strong teams like Milan and Inter have to suffer several defeats. But I think Milan and Inter are having a fairly good and consistent quality of play. especially inter. But in the match against Atalanta, of course Juventus must be able to win the match because Juventus now really need additional points. I hope Juventus will remain a strong team even though Juventus are currently facing a rather sad problem.

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It will be not accepted. they already announced an appeal.

there was no financial violation, there is no rule for selling players. It is a political sentence.

Well I hope Juventus can solve this problem and get their points back. I hope the appeal process goes well.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on January 21, 2023, 06:04:10 PM

The punishment received by Juventus was a reduction of 15 points. and of course this is a very large point. It's really very unfortunate. when Juventus began to return to the path of a good game. but juventus must accept punishment for financial violations. Of course Juventus fans will feel devastated to see this. because Juventus' position, which was already in 3rd place, is now in 10th place.

and with the disclosure of this scandal, we now know clearly what caused the decline in Juventus' performance at the start of this season and before. I still hope the best for juventus. now Juventus only have 22 points.

It will be not accepted. they already announced an appeal.

there was no financial violation, there is no rule for selling players. It is a political sentence.

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Quote from: nurilham on January 21, 2023, 04:48:30 PM

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It's not only when he Inter coach, also happened when he was Roma coach and lost the championship in last games to Inter, when Pazzini scored agains them. I hope they win and he becomes a winner like Ranieri did.

I think the situation is different, dude. Now, he managed Napoli that looks only focusing on Serie A. And the point gaps are quite big, while other teams look decreasing their performance a lot. It is a very advantageous situation for Napoli, they should win Serie A title this season. Unless some of the key players move to other teams, I believe he will lead Napoli to win the Serie A title successfully. Once again, the situation is much different now, not the same as he managed Inter or Roma.

There will be no key players that will be leaving the club until the next transfer season. Osimhen has been even stating if he wanna stay even longer in napoli. Osimhen wanna stay until the end of the season to make sure if osimhen can get a trophy with napoli. Osimhen will be leaving from the club after napoli will become a winner. The result could be predicted easily. It seems napoli continues its win streak in serie a. I'm so glad that about how loyal osimhen with its club, he chooses to stay even longer rather than try to move into the new team that gave him big offer.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 21, 2023, 04:06:15 PM

We are all sorry for Juventus but there is nothing to do. They should have been more careful about this. They have a really bad history with this kind of scandals in the end. I can't believe how they can do this again.

There is no way they are closing the gap up with the fourth placed team as of now. Maybe there are so many games to be played but a gap of twelve points is very difficult to close for any team. Juventus just need to get very lucky and win all of their games at the same time. Some big players might even decide to leave the team if they can't qualify for the Champions League especially.

The punishment received by Juventus was a reduction of 15 points. and of course this is a very large point. It's really very unfortunate. when Juventus began to return to the path of a good game. but juventus must accept punishment for financial violations. Of course Juventus fans will feel devastated to see this. because Juventus' position, which was already in 3rd place, is now in 10th place.

and with the disclosure of this scandal, we now know clearly what caused the decline in Juventus' performance at the start of this season and before. I still hope the best for juventus. now Juventus only have 22 points.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on January 21, 2023, 04:46:58 PM

Torino is trying everything possible to end this game with winning.foirentina is playing a better ball than torino because their the one donating the field with ball possession. Let see what will happen at the end of the match may be foirentina will try to equalize the goal.

Torino is always annoying the top teams and take points from them. Well Fiorentina is normal team this season and failed to score although opportunities they have. They are generating players to sell rather than competing for titles..

Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on January 21, 2023, 04:46:58 PM

Match juventus against atalanta is going to be a tough match tomorrow because juventus need some winning games to make it hope for serial A competition trophy and I know atalanta is in form which I don't think juventus can win the game despite juventus has been winning it previous home season games. Hope great thing happen to juventus tomorrow by winning the match.

Poor Juve, destroyed psychologically, trying to win vs Atalanta. Although all the drama, Juve still have a slightly better odds than Atalanta.

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Quote from: mendace on January 21, 2023, 04:45:04 PM

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We are all sorry for Juventus but there is nothing to do. They should have been more careful about this. They have a really bad history with this kind of scandals in the end. I can't believe how they can do this again.

There is no way they are closing the gap up with the fourth placed team as of now. Maybe there are so many games to be played but a gap of twelve points is very difficult to close for any team. Juventus just need to get very lucky and win all of their games at the same time. Some big players might even decide to leave the team if they can't qualify for the Champions League especially.

Unfortunately this is the reverse of the medal (as they say in Italy) because if on the one hand football is spectacular and transmits passion, on the other there are people who take advantage of their positions and cheat, leading the club to evade money or sometimes to reduce bankrupt. And so we've already been there dozens of times and we're used to it, only the name of the club changes even if that of Juventus is in vogue lately. History repeats itself.

Juventus would start focusing on the Europa League and Coppa Italia more as of now I assume. Because their chance of qualifying for the Champions League or Europa League seems higher than doing this in the Serie A.

The biggest chance could be in the Coppa Italia because there are many challenging opponents aiming the Europa League title. But in the Coppa Italia we never know how the other big teams perform. Milan and Napoli have already been eliminated for example. Juventus had better put their biggest effort in each one of these tournaments for a good achievement.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on January 21, 2023, 04:46:58 PM

Torino is trying everything possible to end this game with winning.foirentina is playing a better ball than torino because their the one donating the field with ball possession. Let see what will happen at the end of the match may be foirentina will try to equalize the goal.

Torino won full points when they visited Fiorentina headquarters, Stadio Artemio Franchi, Torino managed to humiliate Fiorentina with a score of 0 - 1. For this result Torino got full points, Torino proved to be more dominant. They scored ball possession up to 38%. They were able to release 9 shots and 3 of them led to the goal. Meanwhile, Fiorentina appeared quite depressed because they only scored 62% of the ball possession.

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Quote from: JooBra on January 20, 2023, 06:04:51 PM

It's not only when he Inter coach, also happened when he was Roma coach and lost the championship in last games to Inter, when Pazzini scored agains them. I hope they win and he becomes a winner like Ranieri did.

I think the situation is different, dude. Now, he managed Napoli that looks only focusing on Serie A. And the point gaps are quite big, while other teams look decreasing their performance a lot. It is a very advantageous situation for Napoli, they should win Serie A title this season. Unless some of the key players move to other teams, I believe he will lead Napoli to win the Serie A title successfully. Once again, the situation is much different now, not the same as he managed Inter or Roma.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 21, 2023, 03:13:32 PM

It must be very frustrating for Juventus players to be demoted to the 10th place by removing their 15 points. But I was expecting for a sanction about that scandal. They deserved this I'm afraid. They must be even thankful for not being dropped to the Serie B instead.

I was surprised to see Juventus kicked from the Top 4 even though the last time I saw they were there, I think there is a problem on the list of the standings because I don't know there is the latest scandal, what I know is not the first scandal right lol. Obviously this is an advantage for Napoli because Juventus are their main competitors and now it is almost impossible for Juventus to pursue Napoli.

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In my opinion, the top 6 is still quite difficult for Juventus this season, considering that Lazio, Atalanta and AS Roma have the same 34 points. Even if Juventus wanted to move up to a better position, it would only be in 7th place in the standings. Fortunately, it's not like rumors circulating that Juventus will be relegated, but this is also an important lesson, especially for Juventus management so as not to repeat the same problem.

I sure Juventus face difficult back to the top fourth standing in Serie A after deducting 15 points and current position from 3rd standing back to 10th placed. Have bad impact for Juventus player mentality after 15 points cut off actually right now have the top performance and they have restarting 12 points left from Lazio at 4th standing.
I don't know about Juventus will try to appeal against about their deduction points due they have lying about transfer financial values to public, right now lets waiting will appeal from Juventus will accept or not and Juventus has start on current 10 standing position.

This is a very big blow to a team that has not been at its best this season. I just hope Juventus would be able to overturn this judgment with an appeal. But if they are indeed guilty of those accusations, they deserve these sanctions because they are cheating other clubs in the Seria A. If they fail to prove their innocence and the ban still stands, the 10th position is not too bad. If they are committed they can still make it to the top four, it might be difficult with the high caliber of clubs in the Seria A but it is possible. Sampdoria, Genoa, Empoli, Pescara, and others are fortunate that they were not found guilty.

This is actually going to be a disaster for Juventus. And I hope that there was a very good thought process behind this decision. Juventus was playing really well this season. But what is about to happen with them, actually what has happened with them is probably one of the worst things that could happen to any team.

Now it will be very hard for them too. Again, get back at the top of the table. Juventus must appeal to take back the reduction of points. When everything felt like it was not in place for Juventus and a lot of problems regarding the coaching and financial situation, right?

Juventus was trying to improve and showing some improvements, and this happened. I was actually surprised to see Juventus suddenly at the 10th position on the table.

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Torino is trying everything possible to end this game with winning.foirentina is playing a better ball than torino because their the one donating the field with ball possession. Let see what will happen at the end of the match may be foirentina will try to equalize the goal.

Match juventus against atalanta is going to be a tough match tomorrow because juventus need some winning games to make it hope for serial A competition trophy and I know atalanta is in form which I don't think juventus can win the game despite juventus has been winning it previous home season games. Hope great thing happen to juventus tomorrow by winning the match.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on January 21, 2023, 03:59:52 PM

I feel sorry for Juventus, this is a time that they are trying so hard to improve and build their confidence in the league, taking off 15 points from the team feels like too much punishment. I feel sympathy for them dropping all the way from third position to mid table, this will be so frustrating for the players. I hope they can bear this and still push on till the end. This is indeed a huge blow for the club and the entire team.

When I first heard that 15 points would be deducted from Juventus' points due to previous transfer deals, I felt sorry for them. Moving from third place with 37 points to mid-table in 11th place is very disheartening after so much collective effort by the players to earn those points. Without a doubt, this will erode the players' morale and desire to play and win matches in the future. I hope they get through this phase with the team intact.

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