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Quote from: hahay on January 20, 2023, 11:29:02 PM

Does anyone know about the deduction of 15 points for Juventus, so that Juventus are currently in 10th place with 22 points. At least after I searched on Google I got information about "Juventus received a sanction in the form of a 15 point deduction due to a case of falsifying transfer values and capital gains. The sanction was handed down by the Federal Court of Appeal in a trial in Rome".
With this sanction, of course, Juventus are out of the title race this season and I think that is a very regrettable incident, because Juventus have come back to good form at this moment.

Juventus are in for a really big shock. Napoli are taking the league by storm this year, I never thought Juventus would win the title, but they could have won a champions league ticket by finishing Serie A among the top four teams. I guess it won't be easy for them to recover mentally after this unfortunate event. Also, it's sad to learn that Pavel Nedved was also involved in these events. It's really sad to see a football legend like him side by side with allegations of fraud. I think Juventus players have finished this season in their heads after this news.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 21, 2023, 03:13:32 PM

It must be very frustrating for Juventus players to be demoted to the 10th place by removing their 15 points. But I was expecting for a sanction about that scandal. They deserved this I'm afraid. They must be even thankful for not being dropped to the Serie B instead.

Of course it will be too difficult for them to even reach the 6th place from now on. There is a 12-point difference and there are many teams between. To be realistic I'd say that it's not possible. Juventus will just do their best to finish at a more decent place and forget about any European tournament. Of course they are still in the Europa League and they are a candidate for the title. Or they can join the Europa League again by winning the Coppa Italia title which is another option for them to maintain their presence in a European tournament next time also.

If they got kicked again from serie a to b would be really bad for them. But with -15 points now their europe chance are really low. Maybe to join the confrence league only . But champions league and europe league are too far away. Their club management destroyed Juventus in the last years and now they need to recover from all of this.

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It must be very frustrating for Juventus players to be demoted to the 10th place by removing their 15 points. But I was expecting for a sanction about that scandal. They deserved this I'm afraid. They must be even thankful for not being dropped to the Serie B instead.

Of course it will be too difficult for them to even reach the 6th place from now on. There is a 12-point difference and there are many teams between. To be realistic I'd say that it's not possible. Juventus will just do their best to finish at a more decent place and forget about any European tournament. Of course they are still in the Europa League and they are a candidate for the title. Or they can join the Europa League again by winning the Coppa Italia title which is another option for them to maintain their presence in a European tournament next time also.

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Quote from: Pesona1 on January 20, 2023, 09:35:37 PM

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He has to start getting used to it again because we know that Chiesa hasn't played for quite a while so he needs to get used to it again so he can play well again.
But with this one goal, it is clear that he hopes to continue to develop properly after a long recovery phase that will soon occur. Hopefully he can return to being the backbone for Juventus when Juventus are currently still in a slightly complicated condition even though their performance has improved.

After suffering a serious knee injury, of course, Chiesa's performance has decreased and it can even be said that last year was a bad season for him, now I think Chiesa has to work hard enough to find his best game again and regain a place in the old madam squad, according to I was lucky enough for Juventus to be able to lowered chiesa as a substitute in that match after they kept trying to find the winning goal throughout the match, even though Juventus and Monza had different levels, but it was quite visible in that match if Juventus had trouble beating Monza.

Problems are coming again now for them because it is proven by their mistake that they were penalized with a 15 point deduction and this is obviously very difficult for them now with a direct plunge to 10th position.
Chiesa can still improve but not with Juventus I think with a reduction like this they will find it very difficult to break into the ideal place now because regardless of anything this condition is clearly inconvenient for them with the current points gain.

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Quote from: Ratash on January 21, 2023, 12:29:31 PM

Verona team managed to win today against lecce and they added another three points, since the world cup break ended they managed to gather seven points from four game which is much better from what they did before the break but unfortunatly they are still in the relegation zone with an important gap but with the performance they are showing they still has a chance to survive this season.

if verona continues with this performance then they will leave the relegation zone, but unfortunately luck is not on verona's side in the next games because they will play against teams that are very difficult to beat, for example in the next game verona will play against udinese who Without a doubt it will be a difficult game for Verona, then they will play against Lazio which could also be a game in which Verona will lose points, then they will have a less difficult game against Salernitana, then they will face Roma. will be very difficult games for verona

napoli won as expected, their next game will be against roma, we will see a very interesting game from the point of view if mourinho will be able to beat napoli, i wonder how many goals napoli will score, one thing is already clear that napolo has more than 50% chance of winning Serie A

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on January 21, 2023, 01:36:47 PM

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Napoli lost only once this season to a strong Inter away. I think that in the game against Salernitana Napoli will have no problems. Although the kicking stats are the same so far, I think Napoli will start to play in the second half, as they usually do. Although I don't rule out that the game could end in a draw.

Napoli have secured 3 points today they won 2-0 and the match has 30 minutes left, Salernitana only anticipated not conceding more goals
While their competitors Milan will play a difficult match when they have to fight Lazio it won't be easy for Milan especially they are playing away.

The game minutes have shown the number 90 with this soon the match will end. Napoli's countless wins this season have continued their positive trend of winning to secure the top spot in the standings. Salertinata was unable to do anything during the match, thus a 0-2 result for Napoli's away win was confirmed.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on January 21, 2023, 01:36:47 PM

Quote from: fzkto on January 21, 2023, 12:46:37 PM

Napoli lost only once this season to a strong Inter away. I think that in the game against Salernitana Napoli will have no problems. Although the kicking stats are the same so far, I think Napoli will start to play in the second half, as they usually do. Although I don't rule out that the game could end in a draw.

Napoli have secured 3 points today they won 2-0 and the match has 30 minutes left, Salernitana only anticipated not conceding more goals
While their competitors Milan will play a difficult match when they have to fight Lazio it won't be easy for Milan especially they are playing away.

Anyone can lose at Inter Milan, including Napoli. Perhaps even more important is that Juventus has received a heavy punishment, so that it can no longer be seen as a title candidate. We could have expected that Napoli would win easily today. But they also made a huge impression in the CL with the matches against Liverpool and twice against Ajax. For Napoli, the 0-1 was made today in the last minute of the first half, but it was nice to be able to go into halftime with that score. I hope for Sampdoria that they will win games again and crawl out of the relegation problems.

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Quote from: fzkto on January 21, 2023, 12:46:37 PM

Napoli lost only once this season to a strong Inter away. I think that in the game against Salernitana Napoli will have no problems. Although the kicking stats are the same so far, I think Napoli will start to play in the second half, as they usually do. Although I don't rule out that the game could end in a draw.

Napoli have secured 3 points today they won 2-0 and the match has 30 minutes left, Salernitana only anticipated not conceding more goals
While their competitors Milan will play a difficult match when they have to fight Lazio it won't be easy for Milan especially they are playing away.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on January 21, 2023, 08:19:18 AM

Today the leader from Napoli has a chance to strengthen himself at the top of Serie A and I believe that it will happen. Salernitana is in a very bad form lately, the only point in the last 5 games was a draw with Torino. Salernitana currently has the weakest defense in the league, which was clearly seen in the last match against Atalanta, which scored as many as 8 goals. If Napoli do not underestimate the rival and score a goal quickly, I believe that we will also see a big victory today. I bet on Napoli to win with a handicap (-1.5) of goals.

On paper it was clear this should be a game that Napoli would easily win. They have a much weaker opponent who is 16th in the table. It would be a real surprise if they couldn't win this game with the impressive performances they have put in this season.
Napoli previously lost to Cremonese in the Copa Italia, but it is a different competition that maybe Napoli are not serious in that competition.

Napoli are currently in one of their best performances. I see the possibility of doing something good for them. And in a few hours they are going to have a match. They lost the previous match due to some mistakes, but hope to correct those mistakes and perform well in this match and secure victory.

Yes Napoli must take points and gain stability if they want to become champions this year. Now they are facing an easy opponent - Salernitan, who lost 4 out of the last 5 matches in the championship and probably soon will be another defeat, because Napoli is already leading 2-0 and there is no chance to get at least a draw. Osimhen scored again and has already scored 13 goals in 14 games in the championship, last season he had 14 goals in 28 games, so the progress is evident. Apparently Osimhen will be a new candidate to fill Napoli's budget, especially if Manchester United or Newcastle can pay 150 million for him.

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Quote from: fzkto on January 21, 2023, 12:46:37 PM

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Today the leader from Napoli has a chance to strengthen himself at the top of Serie A and I believe that it will happen. Salernitana is in a very bad form lately, the only point in the last 5 games was a draw with Torino. Salernitana currently has the weakest defense in the league, which was clearly seen in the last match against Atalanta, which scored as many as 8 goals. If Napoli do not underestimate the rival and score a goal quickly, I believe that we will also see a big victory today. I bet on Napoli to win with a handicap (-1.5) of goals.

I think that we shall not even count salernitana as a team that will give a tough game to napoli. Salernitana has already been destroyed by so many teams before. it has a very weak mentality. Napoli will be able to take full points from salernitana easily without any doubt. Atalanta was able scoring so many goals against salernitana and we do know that napoli was also in the different level compared with salernitana. The question is will napoli scoring goals as many as atalanta?

Napoli lost only once this season to a strong Inter away. I think that in the game against Salernitana Napoli will have no problems. Although the kicking stats are the same so far, I think Napoli will start to play in the second half, as they usually do. Although I don't rule out that the game could end in a draw.

Napoli vs Salernitana

This match is going on right now. 65 minutes have been played and so far Napoli is ahead by two-zero. I have said this in the past and I have been proved wrong several times, especially in this season. But I am going to say this again. I do not believe that Napoli is going to lose this match from here. They should be able to take three points home very easily from here on. Unless of course something unbelievable happens.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on January 21, 2023, 12:36:05 PM

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In my opinion, the top 6 is still quite difficult for Juventus this season, considering that Lazio, Atalanta and AS Roma have the same 34 points. Even if Juventus wanted to move up to a better position, it would only be in 7th place in the standings. Fortunately, it's not like rumors circulating that Juventus will be relegated, but this is also an important lesson, especially for Juventus management so as not to repeat the same problem.

I sure Juventus face difficult back to the top fourth standing in Serie A after deducting 15 points and current position from 3rd standing back to 10th placed. Have bad impact for Juventus player mentality after 15 points cut off actually right now have the top performance and they have restarting 12 points left from Lazio at 4th standing.

I don't know about Juventus will try to appeal against about their deduction points due they have lying about transfer financial values to public, right now lets waiting will appeal from Juventus will accept or not and Juventus has start on current 10 standing position.

This is a very big blow to a team that has not been at its best this season. I just hope Juventus would be able to overturn this judgment with an appeal. But if they are indeed guilty of those accusations, they deserve these sanctions because they are cheating other clubs in the Seria A. If they fail to prove their innocence and the ban still stands, the 10th position is not too bad. If they are committed they can still make it to the top four, it might be difficult with the high caliber of clubs in the Seria A but it is possible. Sampdoria, Genoa, Empoli, Pescara, and others are fortunate that they were not found guilty.

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Currently Milan is not in their good form seeing them getting nothing in the copa Italian match with inter Milan a game that ended with a 3:0 in favour of inter is not encouraging despite that is not a league match but they are out from this particular competition with an intimidating defeat, with Ac milan display lately their match between Lazio will not be an easy one as I think despite the good record they have in their previous meetings with Lazio I cannot confidently say that this match will totally be in their favour.

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Quote from: X-ray on January 21, 2023, 10:24:36 AM

Quote from: dwminer1 on January 21, 2023, 08:19:18 AM

Today the leader from Napoli has a chance to strengthen himself at the top of Serie A and I believe that it will happen. Salernitana is in a very bad form lately, the only point in the last 5 games was a draw with Torino. Salernitana currently has the weakest defense in the league, which was clearly seen in the last match against Atalanta, which scored as many as 8 goals. If Napoli do not underestimate the rival and score a goal quickly, I believe that we will also see a big victory today. I bet on Napoli to win with a handicap (-1.5) of goals.

I think that we shall not even count salernitana as a team that will give a tough game to napoli. Salernitana has already been destroyed by so many teams before. it has a very weak mentality. Napoli will be able to take full points from salernitana easily without any doubt. Atalanta was able scoring so many goals against salernitana and we do know that napoli was also in the different level compared with salernitana. The question is will napoli scoring goals as many as atalanta?

Napoli lost only once this season to a strong Inter away. I think that in the game against Salernitana Napoli will have no problems. Although the kicking stats are the same so far, I think Napoli will start to play in the second half, as they usually do. Although I don't rule out that the game could end in a draw.

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Quote from: rendravolt on January 21, 2023, 12:19:10 PM

In my opinion, the top 6 is still quite difficult for Juventus this season, considering that Lazio, Atalanta and AS Roma have the same 34 points. Even if Juventus wanted to move up to a better position, it would only be in 7th place in the standings. Fortunately, it's not like rumors circulating that Juventus will be relegated, but this is also an important lesson, especially for Juventus management so as not to repeat the same problem.

I sure Juventus face difficult back to the top fourth standing in Serie A after deducting 15 points and current position from 3rd standing back to 10th placed. Have bad impact for Juventus player mentality after 15 points cut off actually right now have the top performance and they have restarting 12 points left from Lazio at 4th standing.

I don't know about Juventus will try to appeal against about their deduction points due they have lying about transfer financial values to public, right now lets waiting will appeal from Juventus will accept or not and Juventus has start on current 10 standing position.

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Verona team managed to win today against lecce and they added another three points, since the world cup break ended they managed to gather seven points from four game which is much better from what they did before the break but unfortunatly they are still in the relegation zone with an important gap but with the performance they are showing they still has a chance to survive this season.

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Quote from: Fullcoinese on January 21, 2023, 04:43:32 AM

if Juventus can play well with conditions that are not profitable for the club at this time. maybe they can reach for at least the top 6. although it also has to depend on the decline of the performance of the team that is above them at this time.
this is a blow for Juventus when they are safe enough to be at the top of the standings, but have to get a point deduction.
perhaps their hopes for trophies and the Champions League are already clouded. but at least they are still in Serie A, and not relegated as previously rumored.

In my opinion, the top 6 is still quite difficult for Juventus this season, considering that Lazio, Atalanta and AS Roma have the same 34 points. Even if Juventus wanted to move up to a better position, it would only be in 7th place in the standings. Fortunately, it's not like rumors circulating that Juventus will be relegated, but this is also an important lesson, especially for Juventus management so as not to repeat the same problem.

Quote from: Doell on January 21, 2023, 09:14:07 AM

Really shocking, this 15 point deduction is so deep, it will definitely destroy the mentality of players are which is being good this season. Even before, I personally favorite Juventus for the title race besides Napoli. There are 20 matches left, indeed it seems that's not enough for them to can secure UCL tickets, because other clubs are also doing well this season.

Surely the mentality of the Juventus players will be destroyed this season, when talking about their recovery after this maybe only around 50% and that too is definitely inconsistent. Players and clubs are suffering a lot right now and the possibility of winning every game would be pointless seeing the difference in points with the top 4 in the standings so far away.

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I just heard about Juventus lol and I don't know what to say because it shocked me but it seems the problem is kinda political.

Damage is done anyway and this season is kinda over for them as the players also took a morale hit after they worked so hard for that 3rd place they had until this decision came so things are messed up for sure inside Juventus club. As an ending on this subject , some teams that were outside top5 of Serie A , I'm sure are not sad about Juventus getting points deduction and most likely will try to profit and get for European spots.

Looking on the other side of Serie A , Napoli is playing right now against Salernitana and with another 3 points today , Napoli will consolidate even more their position and chances to win Scudetto.

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Quote from: makishart on January 21, 2023, 11:20:32 AM

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Verona vs Lecce match just ended and Verona win by 2-0. And here Verona easily won the match. Lecce played very normally. And they seem very weak. only 1 hour left the Interesting and exciting match Napoli vs Salernitana is going to start. Napoli is a very promising team. And they have enough ability to beat Salernitana. And I think Napoli will win today's match by 2-0 goal with Salernitana.

The match between napoli against salernitana shall not become our main concern now. The result can be predicted easily . Napoli can even make more than two goals against salernitana. I think that we should take a look at how atalanta was destroying salernitana in the past. Napoli may able to do that but i expect it will be less than 5 goals. There's no hope for salernitana to win the match against napoli. Salernitana can only rely on its luck. Easy match for napoli.

Predicting the future among them is actually quite easy. Napoli played a match against Salernitana in January 2022 where Napoli won by 4–1 goal. So Napoli can score more than 2 goals today. But basically it can be said that at least 2 goals will be scored. And maybe 3 goals. But I also believe in it not more than 5 goals. But Salernitana can score maximum 1 goal if they play well

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Quote from: coinerer on January 21, 2023, 11:03:56 AM

Verona vs Lecce match just ended and Verona win by 2-0. And here Verona easily won the match. Lecce played very normally. And they seem very weak. only 1 hour left the Interesting and exciting match Napoli vs Salernitana is going to start. Napoli is a very promising team. And they have enough ability to beat Salernitana. And I think Napoli will win today's match by 2-0 goal with Salernitana.

Even though Verona won this match, they are not in a very good position this season. If you look at the past matches, they have lost most of the matches. To take the team forward, they have to do a great job.

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Quote from: coinerer on January 21, 2023, 11:03:56 AM

Verona vs Lecce match just ended and Verona win by 2-0. And here Verona easily won the match. Lecce played very normally. And they seem very weak. only 1 hour left the Interesting and exciting match Napoli vs Salernitana is going to start. Napoli is a very promising team. And they have enough ability to beat Salernitana. And I think Napoli will win today's match by 2-0 goal with Salernitana.

The match between napoli against salernitana shall not become our main concern now. The result can be predicted easily . Napoli can even make more than two goals against salernitana. I think that we should take a look at how atalanta was destroying salernitana in the past. Napoli may able to do that but i expect it will be less than 5 goals. There's no hope for salernitana to win the match against napoli. Salernitana can only rely on its luck. Easy match for napoli.

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