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Quote from: bitgolden on December 09, 2022, 04:34:41 PM

Quote from: babo on December 09, 2022, 06:12:54 AM

paradoxically Roma went better when Mourinho wasn't there, that is the special one
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I'm sorry to extinguish the enthusiasm of those who praise this character, but they are not capable

and I'm not saying it because I don't like him, look at Roma's position in recent years
he didn't do anything more than what Roma already did

That is literally the reason why he is their manager. If the dude was "the special one" then he would have been managing a big club, and yes he was great at some point in his career, winning league titles and champions league and all that, he was known as one of the best at a point. However, for the past 5 years or so he has been given chances left and right and he always got bad results and that is why he has been sacked.

Roma is not a huge club, sure a known club but not a huge club, and that is why Mourinho went from "the team that may win the league title and champions league in a single season" to a team "should be fighting for a UCL position hopefully" level.

As you rightly said, Roma is a well-known club but not a big club, but they have a serious project, and the investments made in recent years also demonstrate it, the guy "the special one" it's true that he hasn't improved things much but in alternative led them to victory in a European competition, it may not be a great record in the eyes of many but for Roma fans it was an important milestone. However, it is a trophy that brings a little more prestige for Roma

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Pogba started the training he should be ready for the 2nd game in January with maybe some minutes in the 1st game after the break.

The important thing is that he will be ready for the 3rd game versus Napoli.

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Quote from: babo on December 09, 2022, 06:12:54 AM

paradoxically Roma went better when Mourinho wasn't there, that is the special one
the most expensive and useless trainer in the world
I'm sorry to extinguish the enthusiasm of those who praise this character, but they are not capable

and I'm not saying it because I don't like him, look at Roma's position in recent years
he didn't do anything more than what Roma already did

That is literally the reason why he is their manager. If the dude was "the special one" then he would have been managing a big club, and yes he was great at some point in his career, winning league titles and champions league and all that, he was known as one of the best at a point. However, for the past 5 years or so he has been given chances left and right and he always got bad results and that is why he has been sacked.

Roma is not a huge club, sure a known club but not a huge club, and that is why Mourinho went from "the team that may win the league title and champions league in a single season" to a team "should be fighting for a UCL position hopefully" level.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 08, 2022, 11:25:55 PM

Napoli has a very big chance to win the trophy this season. I hope that napoly will not be changing its formation again as bookmakers have been giving good odds for napoly to win serie a for this season. Napoli has a chance to win UCL too. The big question is always be the same about how consistent napoli to face anymatch. Some important players from napoli may possible to leave before the end of season. I have been putting my bet for napoli to win the league.

Of course you are right, but you shouldn't jump to conclusions that Napoli will be champions, especially since the season is still quite long. Serie A is now a really tight league, not only for top teams like Napoli, Milan, Inter, Juventus, but almost all other teams always show their best quality in matches.

Napoli has a point advantage over other competitors, but it is also possible for Napoli to loss points in the match that are still waiting for them this season. I'm not going to come to a conclusion about Napoli, but they are really worthy as a candidate to win the Scudetto this season.

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Quote from: wmaurik on December 08, 2022, 05:37:29 PM

Quote from: izsara on December 08, 2022, 02:07:20 PM

Napoli's focus only has to be a champion regardless of defeat or not. I don't think it really matters too much, the most important thing is that Napoli win.
It's been too long since Napoli had to lose and last lost when they won 3 decades ago and at best they were only in position 2. Now is the right time for them to be able to bring back a trophy with a very big chance. Regardless of losing a few times or not later it doesn't matter, the important thing is they can continue to stay in the top position now.

What can be seen now is that Napoli are unbeaten in the 15 matches they have played this season and Napoli still have enough capital to become champions in Serie A this season if they have to lose several times. Because the number of points that Napoli has is very good for capital in the second half because they are also very aware that other teams will try more in the next match after the world cup so that Napoli will also continue to maintain their best performance during this season so as not to just drop after World Cup.

I personally still feel that Milan's current condition is still not possible and even Juventus before this international break played very well but they are currently facing a big problem so I am also a little skeptical about that.
Only Inter remains in my opinion the most likely but can Inter do it? This has to be seen because if Inter can't catch up and improve their form I think Napoli will be a bit more comfortable.

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After seeing Lukaku's performance in the World Cup I can say comfortably that he is not like in the old times anymore. He wasted so many opportunities in a game which was very crucial for Belgium. After recovering from a lasting injury he still seems far away from his usual effectiveness. Maybe I'm prejudiced now I don't know.

We will all see how he will perform with Inter jersey. He had great times there before as you know. He and Martinez made a great duo back then. But now there is a question mark about it. Lukaku might have problems on being a regular in the starting eleven if he doesn't improve his game.

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Quote from: mrongoz_imut on December 08, 2022, 11:41:24 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on December 08, 2022, 02:17:44 PM

I wonder when exactly Roma are planning to start winning again. Because there has been a huge drop in their performance which resulted in so many loss of points. Mourinho can be blamed for this actually because of still adopting his usual strategies from old times. He should understand one thing especially that he can't be successful with it at every team. Of course there were good times of him in the past. But football is changing and he needs to keep up with new things.

As long as Roma continue to play like this they don't have a good future in this season. They would have huge difficulties in qualifying for the Champions League. Their squad consists of really talented players but they are just wasted by doing this.

Had played well at the start of the competition and were able to wipe out four matches, but unfortunately now their performance has decreased and their position is now ranked sixth in the standings. storms of injuries, coaches have difficulty fielding reserve players who have the same quality as core players and until now Jose Mourinho still relies on bus parking tactics, not using other tactics to make the team better, in my opinion, Jose Mourinho's golden era as bus parking tactician It is over.

It is indeed a very difficult task now facing Jose Mourinho, he is expected to be able to improve the performance of AS Roma since he joined in 2021. He did lead AS Roma to win the Conference League, but of course that was not enough to make AS Roma able to talk more in Serie A. Because they definitely want more achievements in Serie A than the Conference League. Now these doubts have started to sound following AS Roma's game not getting better, even worse compared to the start of the season.
This is not entirely Jose Mourinho's fault in my opinion, because indeed AS Roma itself has not been able to get better in recent years. The coach who nicknamed himself as The Special One must be able to show that he has not finished being a coach.

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For now, there is an improvement in Lazio's performance this season. They have become one of the biggest contenders of top 4. Immobile is also continuing to show a really good performance. Maybe he is getting old on one hand - 32 years old. However this doesn't affect his performance badly yet. He is one of the numbered strikers in this way. His contribution is still important for the team to be successful. Maybe he hasn't scored like at least the half of the total goals Lazio have scored in the league so far. But his stats are good enough comparing to the number of matches he has played.

Lazio's job is still very difficult of course. There are many other teams fighting for a spot in the Champions League. Lazio should just make a difference by being more successful in big matches. So far they haven't been like that in those matches.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 09, 2022, 09:28:01 AM

Quote from: borovichok on December 09, 2022, 06:24:03 AM

Jose Mourinho is one of the best coach I have seen in football and he always win trophies for any team he's made manager. In the past, he have managed top clubs in his career and he's always on the move to make both shocking move and big transfer budget. He's discipline and doesn't make room for mistakes, always consistent in persuading his goals or targets for his club. He's currently managing AS Roma and they did very well in the early starts of the season, but don't know why the sudden losing streak and losing more points to their opponents. I believe Mourinho will bring the team back to their heels with additional signings in the January transfer market.

Mourinho was a great coach, his achievements are truly impressive, but his time has passed, in our time the world is changing very quickly and you need to be able to adapt, but he does not want to do this because he is sure that his strategy is the best. To some extent, he is right if he managed to win so many awards with her help, but he sees that now there are no such results, it doesn’t matter in a top club with the best players, or in Roma, but his defense game is no longer working, now it's time for attacking football.

There is no doubt that Jose Mourinho is one of the best coaches the world of football has ever seen. Even with his eccentric behavior, he has succeeded in becoming a coach who gives the team that believes in him achievement. recently he presented a trophy to AS Roma which was welcomed by the fans.
Usually he is a coach who has a myriad of strategies, but this has not been seen this season to bring AS Roma to record positive results. There is still a second round for him to show the quality he really has.

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Quote from: borovichok on December 09, 2022, 06:24:03 AM

Jose Mourinho is one of the best coach I have seen in football and he always win trophies for any team he's made manager. In the past, he have managed top clubs in his career and he's always on the move to make both shocking move and big transfer budget. He's discipline and doesn't make room for mistakes, always consistent in persuading his goals or targets for his club. He's currently managing AS Roma and they did very well in the early starts of the season, but don't know why the sudden losing streak and losing more points to their opponents. I believe Mourinho will bring the team back to their heels with additional signings in the January transfer market.

Mourinho was a great coach, his achievements are truly impressive, but his time has passed, in our time the world is changing very quickly and you need to be able to adapt, but he does not want to do this because he is sure that his strategy is the best. To some extent, he is right if he managed to win so many awards with her help, but he sees that now there are no such results, it doesn’t matter in a top club with the best players, or in Roma, but his defense game is no longer working, now it's time for attacking football.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on December 09, 2022, 06:24:16 AM

If they keep a player who has been their mainstay all along then I would prefer to see that. But if they let go of that player then my confidence will be a little less. The reason is that now there are many rumors circulating about several Napoli players who are being targeted by many teams out there, especially in their attack sector. So I hope the coach keeps his players at least until the end of the season.

It is still not certain now, but if you look at the targets set by Napoli themselves where they have to try to get champions and trophies in Serie A this season, it is very possible for Napoli to keep their players at this time by not selling them to another team. Because it can clearly affect their good performance and their good performances this season if Napoli releases some of the great players they currently have this season.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 08, 2022, 11:25:55 PM

Quote from: Prince Malik on December 08, 2022, 08:02:29 PM

Im not a Napoli fan but i feel always felt sad about this club because they always did great seasons but without any trophy, the club now have a golden chance to finally get a trophy and why not start a golden edge full of trophies for Napoli

Napoli has a very big chance to win the trophy this season. I hope that napoly will not be changing its formation again as bookmakers have been giving good odds for napoly to win serie a for this season. Napoli has a chance to win UCL too. The big question is always be the same about how consistent napoli to face anymatch. Some important players from napoli may possible to leave before the end of season. I have been putting my bet for napoli to win the league.

If they keep a player who has been their mainstay all along then I would prefer to see that. But if they let go of that player then my confidence will be a little less. The reason is that now there are many rumors circulating about several Napoli players who are being targeted by many teams out there, especially in their attack sector. So I hope the coach keeps his players at least until the end of the season.

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Quote from: martyns on December 08, 2022, 11:57:38 PM

One thing about Jose Morinho is that if he doesn't win anything for a particular club after a season or two season,then he won't win anything again for that club.Morinho is a two - three seasons coach that is why he won't stay long at a particular club and win anything again.Morinho loves defensive pattern of football,and he doesn't believe in the high pressing method used by some coaches like Pep Guardiola of Manchester city.
He was trying from the start of the league and was winning matches,but all of a sudden,they just all had a drop of form and they've not being able to win games again ever since then.Lets hope they sign players and January,maybe that will help them build their confidence back.

Jose Mourinho is one of the best coach I have seen in football and he always win trophies for any team he's made manager. In the past, he have managed top clubs in his career and he's always on the move to make both shocking move and big transfer budget. He's discipline and doesn't make room for mistakes, always consistent in persuading his goals or targets for his club. He's currently managing AS Roma and they did very well in the early starts of the season, but don't know why the sudden losing streak and losing more points to their opponents. I believe Mourinho will bring the team back to their heels with additional signings in the January transfer market.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 09, 2022, 03:04:20 AM

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Roma has failed to showed their consistency so far even they cannot able to wins 3 times streak in Serie A besides that i have been noticed during this season Roma always be hard to wins against the teams with strong defense such as Juventus, Lazio or Napoli and this also could be their weaknesses why Roma performance was decline lately and seems they don't have any creative midfielder to break the defense of those teams
Besides that i can see Dybala is so important for Roma even when he got injured Roma winning percentages was very low and Nicolò Zaniolo who replace his position cannot performing well but after world cup ended Dybala can be played again because he was recover from his injured and luckly for Roma because during world cup he hasn't played by Argentina coach so if Dybala return to Roma he will be in the good shape

As Roma are in poor performance this season, it's no wonder they have to be willing to be in 7th place in the standings. I hope that next season they will start to rise again and be able to compete with teams that currently have a good chance to win Serie A. But if they don't get into the top 4 of course they will lose their chance to compete in the champions league next season. Jose Mourinho, the special one, must really improve his squad, we know Jose Mourinho is one of the best coaches in Europe, he has won many titles in the last two decades.

paradoxically Roma went better when Mourinho wasn't there, that is the special one
the most expensive and useless trainer in the world
I'm sorry to extinguish the enthusiasm of those who praise this character, but they are not capable

and I'm not saying it because I don't like him, look at Roma's position in recent years
he didn't do anything more than what Roma already did

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Quote from: bering on December 09, 2022, 02:08:22 AM

Roma has failed to showed their consistency so far even they cannot able to wins 3 times streak in Serie A besides that i have been noticed during this season Roma always be hard to wins against the teams with strong defense such as Juventus, Lazio or Napoli and this also could be their weaknesses why Roma performance was decline lately and seems they don't have any creative midfielder to break the defense of those teams
Besides that i can see Dybala is so important for Roma even when he got injured Roma winning percentages was very low and Nicolò Zaniolo who replace his position cannot performing well but after world cup ended Dybala can be played again because he was recover from his injured and luckly for Roma because during world cup he hasn't played by Argentina coach so if Dybala return to Roma he will be in the good shape

As Roma are in poor performance this season, it's no wonder they have to be willing to be in 7th place in the standings. I hope that next season they will start to rise again and be able to compete with teams that currently have a good chance to win Serie A. But if they don't get into the top 4 of course they will lose their chance to compete in the champions league next season. Jose Mourinho, the special one, must really improve his squad, we know Jose Mourinho is one of the best coaches in Europe, he has won many titles in the last two decades.

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Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 09, 2022, 12:27:37 AM

Quote from: X-ray on December 08, 2022, 11:25:55 PM

Quote from: Prince Malik on December 08, 2022, 08:02:29 PM

Im not a Napoli fan but i feel always felt sad about this club because they always did great seasons but without any trophy, the club now have a golden chance to finally get a trophy and why not start a golden edge full of trophies for Napoli

Napoli has a very big chance to win the trophy this season. I hope that napoly will not be changing its formation again as bookmakers have been giving good odds for napoly to win serie a for this season. Napoli has a chance to win UCL too. The big question is always be the same about how consistent napoli to face anymatch. Some important players from napoli may possible to leave before the end of season. I have been putting my bet for napoli to win the league.

Napoli has managed to continue their dominance in both Serie A and the Champions League. They are playing very well. And if Napoli can maintain this consistency, Napoli has a chance to win the Serie A title as well as the Champions League title. Their next match in the Champions League is against Frankfurt. Napoli will have no problem winning against Frankfurt if they don't lose the truck. Again, they are still unbeaten in Serie A. Although they have already lost 2/3 matches, they will be able to retain the top spot in the table.

Even though Napoli will only play against Eintracht Frankfurt in the Champions League, that doesn't mean Napoli will get to the final, because there are still quarter-finals and semifinals to go through. In this round, of course, Napoli will play against a tougher team and, in fact, Eintracht Frankfurt cannot be underestimated at all.
Because Eintracht Frankfurt is also in the Bundesliga experiencing a very good increase in performance, so even though Napoli will play against Eintracht Frankfurt in the 16th round of the Champions League it still doesn't guarantee that Napoli will win easily.

But yes, about Napoli's position in the Serie A standings, at least it can be said to be a safe position for Napoli because it has a wide enough point gap, and Napoli only needs to maintain good results in every match and not lose too often.
That way, it will be enough for Napoli to maintain its position at the top of the Serie A table this season. But if what you say about winning the Serie A title and also the Champions League can happen, then of course it will be a very extraordinary achievement but unfortunately, I personally not so sure about Napoli in the Champions League.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 08, 2022, 02:17:44 PM

I wonder when exactly Roma are planning to start winning again. Because there has been a huge drop in their performance which resulted in so many loss of points. Mourinho can be blamed for this actually because of still adopting his usual strategies from old times. He should understand one thing especially that he can't be successful with it at every team. Of course there were good times of him in the past. But football is changing and he needs to keep up with new things.

As long as Roma continue to play like this they don't have a good future in this season. They would have huge difficulties in qualifying for the Champions League. Their squad consists of really talented players but they are just wasted by doing this.

Last three matches of AS Roma in Serie A before the International break were not very consistent with 2 points from 2 draws and one beaten. I don't sure with AS Roma chance this season can finish at top fourth standing position and qualify to Champion League. AS Roma lucky with other above position standing team because left few points only and remaining 6 points from AC Milan at 2nd standing.

I think Jose Mourinho have changed with AS Roma game plays, not effective with defensive only because AS Roma need how aggressive with attacking and scoring as possible many goals every match. Last season AS Roma failed finish at Champion League spot and this season they should finish at top fourth standing position after absent several years in Champion League competition.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 08, 2022, 02:17:44 PM

I wonder when exactly Roma are planning to start winning again. Because there has been a huge drop in their performance which resulted in so many loss of points. Mourinho can be blamed for this actually because of still adopting his usual strategies from old times. He should understand one thing especially that he can't be successful with it at every team. Of course there were good times of him in the past. But football is changing and he needs to keep up with new things.

As long as Roma continue to play like this they don't have a good future in this season. They would have huge difficulties in qualifying for the Champions League. Their squad consists of really talented players but they are just wasted by doing this.

Roma has failed to showed their consistency so far even they cannot able to wins 3 times streak in Serie A besides that i have been noticed during this season Roma always be hard to wins against the teams with strong defense such as Juventus, Lazio or Napoli and this also could be their weaknesses why Roma performance was decline lately and seems they don't have any creative midfielder to break the defense of those teams
Besides that i can see Dybala is so important for Roma even when he got injured Roma winning percentages was very low and Nicolò Zaniolo who replace his position cannot performing well but after world cup ended Dybala can be played again because he was recover from his injured and luckly for Roma because during world cup he hasn't played by Argentina coach so if Dybala return to Roma he will be in the good shape

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Quote from: X-ray on December 08, 2022, 11:25:55 PM

Quote from: Prince Malik on December 08, 2022, 08:02:29 PM

Im not a Napoli fan but i feel always felt sad about this club because they always did great seasons but without any trophy, the club now have a golden chance to finally get a trophy and why not start a golden edge full of trophies for Napoli

Napoli has a very big chance to win the trophy this season. I hope that napoly will not be changing its formation again as bookmakers have been giving good odds for napoly to win serie a for this season. Napoli has a chance to win UCL too. The big question is always be the same about how consistent napoli to face anymatch. Some important players from napoli may possible to leave before the end of season. I have been putting my bet for napoli to win the league.

Napoli has managed to continue their dominance in both Serie A and the Champions League. They are playing very well. And if Napoli can maintain this consistency, Napoli has a chance to win the Serie A title as well as the Champions League title. Their next match in the Champions League is against Frankfurt. Napoli will have no problem winning against Frankfurt if they don't lose the truck. Again, they are still unbeaten in Serie A. Although they have already lost 2/3 matches, they will be able to retain the top spot in the table.

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Quote from: mrongoz_imut on December 08, 2022, 11:41:24 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on December 08, 2022, 02:17:44 PM

I wonder when exactly Roma are planning to start winning again. Because there has been a huge drop in their performance which resulted in so many loss of points. Mourinho can be blamed for this actually because of still adopting his usual strategies from old times. He should understand one thing especially that he can't be successful with it at every team. Of course there were good times of him in the past. But football is changing and he needs to keep up with new things.

As long as Roma continue to play like this they don't have a good future in this season. They would have huge difficulties in qualifying for the Champions League. Their squad consists of really talented players but they are just wasted by doing this.

Had played well at the start of the competition and were able to wipe out four matches, but unfortunately now their performance has decreased and their position is now ranked sixth in the standings. storms of injuries, coaches have difficulty fielding reserve players who have the same quality as core players and until now Jose Mourinho still relies on bus parking tactics, not using other tactics to make the team better, in my opinion, Jose Mourinho's golden era as bus parking tactician It is over.

One thing about Jose Morinho is that if he doesn't win anything for a particular club after a season or two season,then he won't win anything again for that club.Morinho is a two - three seasons coach that is why he won't stay long at a particular club and win anything again.Morinho loves defensive pattern of football,and he doesn't believe in the high pressing method used by some coaches like Pep Guardiola of Manchester city.
He was trying from the start of the league and was winning matches,but all of a sudden,they just all had a drop of form and they've not being able to win games again ever since then.Lets hope they sign players and January,maybe that will help them build their confidence back.

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