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Quote from: Warkop on November 29, 2022, 06:58:56 AM

I have heard several times that a surprising announcement was made by Juventus, which suddenly all of its top officials resigned. Juventus president Andrea Agnelli and Pavel Nedved included.

Has anyone heard of that in some of the Serie A news for today, because this is something that has truly shocked all the Juventus fans out there..

News Source : https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2022/10/25/23423115/juventus-andrea-agnelli-pavel-nedved-maurizio-arrivabene-2022-false-accounting-investigation

It's a really big news and break time by World Cup should be a calm time for clubs but not sure what actually happened in Juventus. In fact, they have had good improvement on field a few weeks before World Cup and currently they stands at the third position of Serie A. That is not a too bad position for them but we should not forget that Juventus failed in Champions League and they will have to play in play-off matches in Europa League.

It is really little information about reasons behind this massive resignment in Turin but personally I think it is probably more related to their finance. Why do I think so?

Because their results on field are not too bad, at least if we consider about their position in Serie A. If their problems are financially related, it should began since the transfer of Cristiano Ronaldo from Real Madrid to Juventus and his very high salary. A few seasons after that transfer, Juventus performance becomes worse and worse. More unfortunately, the pandemic and global recession make things more terrible for Juventus.

From several sources I have read about the resignation of Juventus officials due to the problem of purchasing players during the past Covid19, for whatever reason, at least it can be a benchmark for Juventus management, and there are things that are at issue with serious discipline as a result of what investigators believe as fake bookkeeping during the two-year period leading up to the start of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Obviously this is very unfortunate for most people if they are subject to sanctions, even that will have an impact on the Juventus squad team who have now found their rhythm from a bad start to the season, all hope this can be overcome without having to resign..

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Quote from: Warkop on November 29, 2022, 06:58:56 AM

I have heard several times that a surprising announcement was made by Juventus, which suddenly all of its top officials resigned. Juventus president Andrea Agnelli and Pavel Nedved included.

Has anyone heard of that in some of the Serie A news for today, because this is something that has truly shocked all the Juventus fans out there..

News Source : https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2022/10/25/23423115/juventus-andrea-agnelli-pavel-nedved-maurizio-arrivabene-2022-false-accounting-investigation

Those top officials from juventus who have been resigned already known if their shady things will be discovered by investigator. That's why they were doing massive resign caused by there have been something wrong happened with juventus. Financial reports for several years being audited. If the auditors will find some shady things in the financial reports by juventus around 2018, 2019 and 2020. it seems like it will be a very good choice to revoke the title that owned by juventus during 2019, 2020.

There will always be a reason why those officials were choosing to resign from juventus

But there are several candidates for replacing Juventus president Andrea Agnelli and Pavel Nedved, who knows who will replace Andrea Agnelli and Pavel Nedved, to continue the unfinished tasks for this season, and it has been revealed in public, that this news is true, but when it comes to revoking the title that Juventus won last season, it doesn't seem to make sense from the root of the problem, at least there is a penalty they have to carry out or appeal to the relevant party for this problem, it doesn't drag on too late..

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Quote from: lulumiya on November 29, 2022, 08:50:07 AM

Inter are still getting my attention despite being more than ten points away from Napoli in the standings. Because they are one of the strongest attacking teams of the league this season. They have almost the same amount of goals scored with Napoli.

They just need to work on their defensive game plan a little more due to conceding more than 20 goals already. This is what drags them down in the league. If they make progress in the other half of the season then they have a potential to finish it in second place at worst.

Intermilan has a strong mentality and a capable squad in Serie A so it is difficult to get them out of the Scudetto competition, even though Intermilan is now far behind Napoli, right now Napoli is at the top with a difference of 10 points but we dont forget how Napoli fell last season when they were at the top at the start of the season, early last season Napoli led the standings with Milan since the start of the season but entering the middle of the season they slowed down and had to get out of the scudetto path, I think this season will not be much different from last season because there are many possible factors for Napoli to experience inconsistent including due to the fatigue of their players in the world cup this year and this is an opportunity for other teams including intermilan to catch up with them.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 29, 2022, 08:22:19 AM

it really is unbelievable how roma is just going downhill, they have to think about spending money to sign more new players to improve the team or they are doomed to fail this season, from what i see they not only have problems in defense but also in attacking serie A Roma's biggest problem is not in defence, Roma's biggest problem is in attack. they don't manage to score many goals constantly in each game and this is making them found in serie A. mourinho needs to sign at least 2 players who score a lot of goals

The most important is how Mourinho brings a team with a mediocre transfer budget like this to the top. Mourinho really built a team while at Porto, after that, he got a team with a big budget to buy players. Like being dependent on money instead of scouting for talent. However, if Roma entrusted Mourinho for a longer time, there could be improvements. but I don't know, if the magic from Mourinho doesn't appear again, Lips sealed

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Quote from: Warkop on November 29, 2022, 06:58:56 AM

I have heard several times that a surprising announcement was made by Juventus, which suddenly all of its top officials resigned. Juventus president Andrea Agnelli and Pavel Nedved included.

Has anyone heard of that in some of the Serie A news for today, because this is something that has truly shocked all the Juventus fans out there..

News Source : https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2022/10/25/23423115/juventus-andrea-agnelli-pavel-nedved-maurizio-arrivabene-2022-false-accounting-investigation

Those top officials from juventus who have been resigned already known if their shady things will be discovered by investigator. That's why they were doing massive resign caused by there have been something wrong happened with juventus. Financial reports for several years being audited. If the auditors will find some shady things in the financial reports by juventus around 2018, 2019 and 2020. it seems like it will be a very good choice to revoke the title that owned by juventus during 2019, 2020.

There will always be a reason why those officials were choosing to resign from juventus

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Inter are still getting my attention despite being more than ten points away from Napoli in the standings. Because they are one of the strongest attacking teams of the league this season. They have almost the same amount of goals scored with Napoli.

They just need to work on their defensive game plan a little more due to conceding more than 20 goals already. This is what drags them down in the league. If they make progress in the other half of the season then they have a potential to finish it in second place at worst.

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Quote from: Ratash on November 28, 2022, 03:00:33 PM

Roma barely managed a draw in the last minutes in the friendly game they played against Yokohama team, thanks to shomurodov 90+2 goal their defense seem really weak they conceided three goals today true we have seen some new faces today but this poor performance has been going on for quite sometime if they want to make it to a european spot in the end of the season now its the time to find the solution or sign some new players on the transfer window.

it really is unbelievable how roma is just going downhill, they have to think about spending money to sign more new players to improve the team or they are doomed to fail this season, from what i see they not only have problems in defense but also in attacking serie A Roma's biggest problem is not in defence, Roma's biggest problem is in attack. they don't manage to score many goals constantly in each game and this is making them found in serie A. mourinho needs to sign at least 2 players who score a lot of goals

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Quote from: Warkop on November 29, 2022, 06:58:56 AM

I have heard several times that a surprising announcement was made by Juventus, which suddenly all of its top officials resigned. Juventus president Andrea Agnelli and Pavel Nedved included.

Has anyone heard of that in some of the Serie A news for today, because this is something that has truly shocked all the Juventus fans out there..

News Source : https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2022/10/25/23423115/juventus-andrea-agnelli-pavel-nedved-maurizio-arrivabene-2022-false-accounting-investigation

It's a really big news and break time by World Cup should be a calm time for clubs but not sure what actually happened in Juventus. In fact, they have had good improvement on field a few weeks before World Cup and currently they stands at the third position of Serie A. That is not a too bad position for them but we should not forget that Juventus failed in Champions League and they will have to play in play-off matches in Europa League.

It is really little information about reasons behind this massive resignment in Turin but personally I think it is probably more related to their finance. Why do I think so?

Because their results on field are not too bad, at least if we consider about their position in Serie A. If their problems are financially related, it should began since the transfer of Cristiano Ronaldo from Real Madrid to Juventus and his very high salary. A few seasons after that transfer, Juventus performance becomes worse and worse. More unfortunately, the pandemic and global recession make things more terrible for Juventus.

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I have heard several times that a surprising announcement was made by Juventus, which suddenly all of its top officials resigned. Juventus president Andrea Agnelli and Pavel Nedved included.

Has anyone heard of that in some of the Serie A news for today, because this is something that has truly shocked all the Juventus fans out there..

News Source : https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2022/10/25/23423115/juventus-andrea-agnelli-pavel-nedved-maurizio-arrivabene-2022-false-accounting-investigation

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Quote from: Masplanc on November 28, 2022, 03:19:55 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on November 28, 2022, 02:27:12 PM

Maybe Napoli are quite far away from the others in the league standings now. But there is still a competition among many teams for top 4 positions now. There are like 6 teams fighting for entering and staying in this area now. Besides Napoli still have a long way to go before guaranteeing their title as well. We don't know how much strong they will be able to return.

Other clubs are trying their best to be in a good position, Napoli has more opportunity right now among other teams to win the league. From the way Napoli plays in the italian league and the champions league it is possible for them to win the italian league.

It's not only possible for napoli. Napoli can even win the scudetto earlier. It's caused by the possibility by napoli to make the gap even bigger once the team below it will be making some mistake. Remember that if some big clus were still fighting to get into the top 4. That means if there will always be a very strict competition happened below napoli. Napoli can stay with very big gap to the competitiors. This will make napoli has a very big chance to win the tropy. It doesn't even need waiting for the last match in the serie a to happen. I hope that we will see a new winner after ac milan has been winning the last season. Napoli is having a very great team that can make it happen. The only problem whether napoli can make its performance to be sustain until the end of season or not.

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Quote from: bhooscream on November 28, 2022, 06:18:48 PM

Exactly, they may not focus on winning the title, but however, they are trying to get as best as they can. However to survive being in the top 3 so they can be included again in the UCL. This is hard enough to replace Napoli so far because Napoli is really impressive this season, they have quite a high difference in the points and they are always playing their best performance. But, this may be different for EuropeLeague, they may try harder because they also have a chance to make it. Although it will be very difficult to realize, they still have the chance and they may also focus on this.

Napoli in Serie A will stay in first place for a long time and even until the end of the season, because I also see that almost all teams in Serie A are unable to beat Napoli so teams like Juventus and AC Milan only have the chance to fight for second and third places. Because the first position in the standings will always be dominated by Napoli this season in Serie A.

After all, if the target of the Juventus team or other teams is only to be in a good position or to be precise in a position that can lead them to the Champions League next season, then the position of the four standings is also not so bad if the target is not to win the Scudetto this season.

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Quote from: bhooscream on November 28, 2022, 06:18:48 PM

Quote from: tulusikhlas on November 27, 2022, 07:05:53 AM

Quote from: bhooscream on November 26, 2022, 06:21:57 PM

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Juventus shouldn't focus too much on winning titles, they should focus more on their own game. The reason is that it is true that they have won in a row, but I cannot say that their game is satisfactory. In fact, I think in some of their wins it was a stroke of luck that came their way. There is time for them to be able to perform even more satisfactorily, also some of the players have recovered from injury.

Exactly, they may not focus on winning the title, but however, they are trying to get as best as they can. However to survive being in the top 3 so they can be included again in the UCL. This is hard enough to replace Napoli so far because Napoli is really impressive this season, they have quite a high difference in the points and they are always playing their best performance. But, this may be different for EuropeLeague, they may try harder because they also have a chance to make it. Although it will be very difficult to realize, they still have the chance and they may also focus on this.

Nope. It was just 10 points ... juventus has prove it was just easy to catch more than just points away like what currently happened with napoli at the top of the league with its invincibke run 15 league matches unbeaten is really something , crazy achievement but the question is ... will they remain at top level after the world cup break?

We will see it in the first 5 matches later started in a game against inter milan at 4th of january , they will have to play against juventus as well and as roma at the end of january , though obstacles.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on November 28, 2022, 06:18:59 PM

Quote from: AakZaki on November 28, 2022, 03:42:35 PM

I think also, they will take advantage of the transfer market in January. The chance of a break and a gap of 10 points will not make them give up chasing Napoli, although it is not easy. The winning streak before the World Cup break also made them even more optimistic it seemed. But it seems that they need a central defender with a left-handed foot. But I think bringing in star players in the January season is more difficult than it was in the summer.

To catch Napoli points which are so far away is impossible for them to chase and if they buy players in the transfer market then what is the goal because if the goal is to catch Napoli's points and try to seize Napoli's position then buying new players by taking advantage of the transfer market will be very valuable, but if you don't have such a goal it will be useless because you are wasting money with an uncertain purpose.

That's true, but the fact that Napoli is is far from theme don't mean that they must not buy some good players in the Mercato lol, it's always good for any club to bring good players to focus in the incoming chalanges, also 10 points is not an impossible gap so let's see what they will make in the Mercato

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Quote from: AakZaki on November 28, 2022, 03:42:35 PM

I think also, they will take advantage of the transfer market in January. The chance of a break and a gap of 10 points will not make them give up chasing Napoli, although it is not easy. The winning streak before the World Cup break also made them even more optimistic it seemed. But it seems that they need a central defender with a left-handed foot. But I think bringing in star players in the January season is more difficult than it was in the summer.

To catch Napoli points which are so far away is impossible for them to chase and if they buy players in the transfer market then what is the goal because if the goal is to catch Napoli's points and try to seize Napoli's position then buying new players by taking advantage of the transfer market will be very valuable, but if you don't have such a goal it will be useless because you are wasting money with an uncertain purpose.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on November 27, 2022, 07:05:53 AM

Quote from: bhooscream on November 26, 2022, 06:21:57 PM

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Juventus shouldn't focus too much on winning titles, they should focus more on their own game. The reason is that it is true that they have won in a row, but I cannot say that their game is satisfactory. In fact, I think in some of their wins it was a stroke of luck that came their way. There is time for them to be able to perform even more satisfactorily, also some of the players have recovered from injury.

Exactly, they may not focus on winning the title, but however, they are trying to get as best as they can. However to survive being in the top 3 so they can be included again in the UCL. This is hard enough to replace Napoli so far because Napoli is really impressive this season, they have quite a high difference in the points and they are always playing their best performance. But, this may be different for EuropeLeague, they may try harder because they also have a chance to make it. Although it will be very difficult to realize, they still have the chance and they may also focus on this.

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Quote from: AakZaki on November 28, 2022, 03:42:35 PM

Quote from: joker_josue on November 28, 2022, 05:42:37 AM

But, the fact that Italy is not participating in the World Cup, I believe it will reduce that impact a lot. It is true that the big clubs have players playing in the World Cup, even so the best Italian players remain in the clubs.
In turn, big clubs like Juventus will certainly go to the market to buy players, as they are in need.

I think also, they will take advantage of the transfer market in January. The chance of a break and a gap of 10 points will not make them give up chasing Napoli, although it is not easy. The winning streak before the World Cup break also made them even more optimistic it seemed. But it seems that they need a central defender with a left-handed foot. But I think bringing in star players in the January season is more difficult than it was in the summer.

There is no doubt that they will try to take advantage of the transfer market in order to improve their squad. But which player are they planning to bring in to replace whome? It is very true that Napoli have gained much more confidence going forward as a result of the winning streak that they were on before the World Cup. As a result, it will be very difficult to obtain them. As a matter of fact, the point differentials are quite large, in my opinion.

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Quote from: joker_josue on November 28, 2022, 05:42:37 AM

But, the fact that Italy is not participating in the World Cup, I believe it will reduce that impact a lot. It is true that the big clubs have players playing in the World Cup, even so the best Italian players remain in the clubs.
In turn, big clubs like Juventus will certainly go to the market to buy players, as they are in need.

I think also, they will take advantage of the transfer market in January. The chance of a break and a gap of 10 points will not make them give up chasing Napoli, although it is not easy. The winning streak before the World Cup break also made them even more optimistic it seemed. But it seems that they need a central defender with a left-handed foot. But I think bringing in star players in the January season is more difficult than it was in the summer.

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Quote from: DanWalker on November 28, 2022, 02:46:30 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 28, 2022, 11:28:57 AM

The problem is that Roma don't have strategies good enough to fight for the league championship. Mourinho is still adopting the same old ones at Roma also. But with the current squad quality he has, he can definitely do much better than this. They have made really good improvements to the squad in last transfer window. They have made their attacking line even stronger with Dybala and Belotti additions. Belotti couldn't even find much chance in the Serie A so far. He mostly played for a short amount of time even his stats show it like he played in 12 matches.

Roma need an attacking-oriented game plan. They shouldn't play very cautiously against even the biggest opponents of them here. This is one of the main factors that are dragging them down in the standings. If Mourinho doesn't make the necessary changes I think Roma might think of bringing a more suitable manager by next season.

Roma is not in a favorable position right now. They are not performing as well as they should be. As of right now, they are ranked seventh on the table. And we also look at the last five matches, they only have one win in them. That is not a commendable performance I'm afraid. Mourinho has to come up with new plans. Otherwise, I don't see Roma performing well when the league competition resumes.

I also agree that if they keep playing defensively they are not going to be able to perform well and get ahead on the table. They have conceded a lot of goals (14) and that is absolutely not ideal. And I think a big reason why they have conceded so many goals is because they have been playing way too defensively.

This clearly must be anticipated, especially if you look at the conditions from Rome, especially for its supporters, actually things like this are still very risky, especially when looking in the mirror last season, which was almost the same condition as it is today, making most of their supporters angry with Mou and not impossible. when they still continue like this Mou out movement will still be heard again.
Before the break in the last 5 matches they were only able to get 1 win which makes this a bit difficult for them.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 28, 2022, 02:27:12 PM

Maybe Napoli are quite far away from the others in the league standings now. But there is still a competition among many teams for top 4 positions now. There are like 6 teams fighting for entering and staying in this area now. Besides Napoli still have a long way to go before guaranteeing their title as well. We don't know how much strong they will be able to return.

Other clubs are trying their best to be in a good position, Napoli has more opportunity right now among other teams to win the league. From the way Napoli plays in the italian league and the champions league it is possible for them to win the italian league.

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Roma barely managed a draw in the last minutes in the friendly game they played against Yokohama team, thanks to shomurodov 90+2 goal their defense seem really weak they conceided three goals today true we have seen some new faces today but this poor performance has been going on for quite sometime if they want to make it to a european spot in the end of the season now its the time to find the solution or sign some new players on the transfer window.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 28, 2022, 11:28:57 AM

The problem is that Roma don't have strategies good enough to fight for the league championship. Mourinho is still adopting the same old ones at Roma also. But with the current squad quality he has, he can definitely do much better than this. They have made really good improvements to the squad in last transfer window. They have made their attacking line even stronger with Dybala and Belotti additions. Belotti couldn't even find much chance in the Serie A so far. He mostly played for a short amount of time even his stats show it like he played in 12 matches.

Roma need an attacking-oriented game plan. They shouldn't play very cautiously against even the biggest opponents of them here. This is one of the main factors that are dragging them down in the standings. If Mourinho doesn't make the necessary changes I think Roma might think of bringing a more suitable manager by next season.

Roma is not in a favorable position right now. They are not performing as well as they should be. As of right now, they are ranked seventh on the table. And we also look at the last five matches, they only have one win in them. That is not a commendable performance I'm afraid. Mourinho has to come up with new plans. Otherwise, I don't see Roma performing well when the league competition resumes.

I also agree that if they keep playing defensively they are not going to be able to perform well and get ahead on the table. They have conceded a lot of goals (14) and that is absolutely not ideal. And I think a big reason why they have conceded so many goals is because they have been playing way too defensively.

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