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Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on August 08, 2022, 03:28:54 AM

We have not much time left for the start of a new season. There are two opening matches like Milan - Udinese and Sampdoria - Atalanta. I'm very confident about Milan in this match honestly. I know that Milan haven't been very lucky against them in the recent times but I don't expect it to happen in this match as well. As for the other match, Atalanta are clearly the favourite but they sometimes can be really unpredictable. I wonder how strong they will start the season.

I expect a lot for Milan and Atalanta now.
Although their financial condition is not very good at the moment and Atalanta's performance last season was not like the Underdogs there still there is some more hope for these two teams considering that if they don't play well at the start it is clear this will make the competition only Juventus and inter.

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We have not much time left for the start of a new season. There are two opening matches like Milan - Udinese and Sampdoria - Atalanta. I'm very confident about Milan in this match honestly. I know that Milan haven't been very lucky against them in the recent times but I don't expect it to happen in this match as well. As for the other match, Atalanta are clearly the favourite but they sometimes can be really unpredictable. I wonder how strong they will start the season.

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One draw and two defeats were obtained by Juventus during a friendly match with three top La Liga teams at once. Very disappointing especially to see their last game against Atletico Madrid. I see their quality is still lower than other teams let alone La Liga. What hurts more is the 3 goals from the player they let go (Morata).

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 07, 2022, 07:34:48 PM

Honestly I don't think that it is a good idea to judge Inter by only their friendly performances. Friendlies don't have any importance for teams. They just want to make their players reach the match fitness and that is enough for them. I'm pretty confident that we are going to see a completely different Inter in the official games. I already expect them to be one of the biggest contenders to become the champions again. They still have a very capable squad for that.

That's right, this is just an experiment to see if the schema being executed is suitable or not. Maybe in this case Manchester United is an example even they are quite good in their pre-season tour but to navigate the League doesn't seem that simple. Serie A is the same, even though Inter didn't play well on the tour but this doesn't really prove anything even though we also have to judge that teams from Serie A are still below other European teams.

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Quote from: nurilham on August 07, 2022, 07:39:09 PM

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0-4 Juventus - Atletico.
We are in a deep water, it will be an hard year again for Juventus.

3 goals from their own ex Cheesy

Morata seemed to prove that he did not fit into the Juventus game and was more suited to playing with patterns and strategies that matched what he wanted.
Bad enough for Juventus in this regard and indeed this seems to prove that the level of Serie A is still below the level of the other leagues.

Yes, Morata scored 3 goals although he cannot play full time (90 minutes). While Vlahovic played full time but scored no goal. In this match, Morata proves that he is still better than Vlahovic. If he couldn't play well in Juventus, it was not his mistake but Juventus mistake in the strategy. Considering this match, ATM seems still competitive enough to face the season, both for la Liga or UCL competition.

Alvaro Morata does seem to be more suited to playing at Atletico, because the previous match when Atletico beat Cadiz, Morata played quite well
by scoring one goal. But when Atlético beat Juventus, Morata played really well. Scoring a hat-trick against a former club is indeed something
memorable even if only in a friendly match. I'm glad Juventus didn't buy Morata permanently when his loan expired, because Morata's career
would have been better if he played at Atletico. Then Vlahovic's performance was very disappointing, he failed to show as a Juventus goal machine,
maybe also because Vlahovic doesn't get much ball supply. Because Juventus played defensively against Atletico.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 07, 2022, 07:34:48 PM

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Inter are going to start the season by playing against one of the new teams of the league which are Lecce. It is an away game and their last head-to-head here ended up with a 2-2 draw two years ago. Honestly I don't expect any surprise this time. Inter must be able to have a solid beginning to the season. We have the great Martinez - Lukaku duo back at the team too and I will be very expectant about them as well. Inter would win this game by at least two goals in my opinion.

The inter this season is not doing well, at least in the friendly games they did not do well, see:

Inter 2 - 2 Monaco

Inter 0 - 1 Lens

Inter 2 - 2 Lyon

Inter 2 - 4 Villareal

These are very bad results, they have conceded a lot of goals in the last friendly games, this is not a good indication, in any case we will see their first game

Honestly I don't think that it is a good idea to judge Inter by only their friendly performances. Friendlies don't have any importance for teams. They just want to make their players reach the match fitness and that is enough for them. I'm pretty confident that we are going to see a completely different Inter in the official games. I already expect them to be one of the biggest contenders to become the champions again. They still have a very capable squad for that.

they are just friendlies but still, they didn't won any match and they played against not really that good teams, if it was just one match I would say the same, you can't judge by that, but four matches is quite a lot, I was expecting them to win the Seria A this year but I'm getting really skeptical about their chances.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 07, 2022, 07:34:48 PM

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Inter are going to start the season by playing against one of the new teams of the league which are Lecce. It is an away game and their last head-to-head here ended up with a 2-2 draw two years ago. Honestly I don't expect any surprise this time. Inter must be able to have a solid beginning to the season. We have the great Martinez - Lukaku duo back at the team too and I will be very expectant about them as well. Inter would win this game by at least two goals in my opinion.

The inter this season is not doing well, at least in the friendly games they did not do well, see:

Inter 2 - 2 Monaco

Inter 0 - 1 Lens

Inter 2 - 2 Lyon

Inter 2 - 4 Villareal

These are very bad results, they have conceded a lot of goals in the last friendly games, this is not a good indication, in any case we will see their first game

Honestly I don't think that it is a good idea to judge Inter by only their friendly performances. Friendlies don't have any importance for teams. They just want to make their players reach the match fitness and that is enough for them. I'm pretty confident that we are going to see a completely different Inter in the official games. I already expect them to be one of the biggest contenders to become the champions again. They still have a very capable squad for that.

Take for example Manchester United, they did marvelous during the friendly and Pre season game's but how did they turn out to be when they finally faced Brighton ? It wasn't as expected they're still shit!

So it's almost disheartening to judge a club and team with the Pre - season game's. Inter did all they could do to retain the League last season but they missed out ........ Expect a better performance from Juventus.

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Quote from: Alanaz on August 07, 2022, 03:40:58 PM

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0-4 Juventus - Atletico.
We are in a deep water, it will be an hard year again for Juventus.

3 goals from their own ex Cheesy

Morata seemed to prove that he did not fit into the Juventus game and was more suited to playing with patterns and strategies that matched what he wanted.
Bad enough for Juventus in this regard and indeed this seems to prove that the level of Serie A is still below the level of the other leagues.

Yes, Morata scored 3 goals although he cannot play full time (90 minutes). While Vlahovic played full time but scored no goal. In this match, Morata proves that he is still better than Vlahovic. If he couldn't play well in Juventus, it was not his mistake but Juventus mistake in the strategy. Considering this match, ATM seems still competitive enough to face the season, both for la Liga or UCL competition.

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Quote from: Slow death on August 07, 2022, 11:29:18 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on August 07, 2022, 05:42:03 AM

Inter are going to start the season by playing against one of the new teams of the league which are Lecce. It is an away game and their last head-to-head here ended up with a 2-2 draw two years ago. Honestly I don't expect any surprise this time. Inter must be able to have a solid beginning to the season. We have the great Martinez - Lukaku duo back at the team too and I will be very expectant about them as well. Inter would win this game by at least two goals in my opinion.

The inter this season is not doing well, at least in the friendly games they did not do well, see:

Inter 2 - 2 Monaco

Inter 0 - 1 Lens

Inter 2 - 2 Lyon

Inter 2 - 4 Villareal

These are very bad results, they have conceded a lot of goals in the last friendly games, this is not a good indication, in any case we will see their first game

Honestly I don't think that it is a good idea to judge Inter by only their friendly performances. Friendlies don't have any importance for teams. They just want to make their players reach the match fitness and that is enough for them. I'm pretty confident that we are going to see a completely different Inter in the official games. I already expect them to be one of the biggest contenders to become the champions again. They still have a very capable squad for that.

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Quote from: Slow death on August 07, 2022, 06:24:15 PM

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0-4 Juventus - Atletico.

We are in a deep water, it will be an hard year again for Juventus.

it was a great humiliation and disappointment, in the past we were a great team, today we are at the bottom of the well, we are reduced to nothing, how low have we reached? losing against altético madrid like that is unacceptable and everything gets worse because juventus is not finding good players for the attack, and what the hell is this:

in a friendly game the coach was playing just to defend and conceded 4 goals, that's a lot of humiliation, how the hell does he intend to win the serie A with that? we don't have any chance of finishing in 3rd place

Maybe because it was a friendly match, Allegri did an experiment by playing defensively. Which is where Juventus played very badly and only
gave Atletico players more room to develop their game. Finally made Atletico able to create more chances than Juventus, and resulted in Atletico
being able to score 4 goals. It seems Allegri tried the same strategy when Juventus managed to draw against Barcelona. Even though the Atletico
game usually tends to play defensively, is not appropriate if Juventus also plays a defensive strategy. Juventus should use a defensive strategy
when facing a team like Real Madrid, but against Real Madrid there was Juventus playing attacking.

This defeat against Atletico will make Juventus players lose confidence. Even though next week Juventus have to start their first match in Serie A,
but two consecutive defeats in friendly matches is not something good for Juventus. I just hope Allegri can motivate Juventus players to bounce
back against Sassuolo next week. The most important thing is that Juventus must play attacking against Sassuolo, which Juventus does have
better quality players than Sassuolo.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 07, 2022, 02:36:01 PM

0-4 Juventus - Atletico.

We are in a deep water, it will be an hard year again for Juventus.

A complete disappointment from Juventus. Alvaro Morata gave a good message to Juventus fans by scoring a hat-trick. Juventus were very ineffective in this match. Frankly, I thought that Juventus would play differently this year and that they would finish the season successfully. If they are going to play ineffectively like this, the probability of finishing the league champion is unfortunately very low.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 07, 2022, 06:27:00 PM

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0-4 Juventus - Atletico.

We are in a deep water, it will be an hard year again for Juventus.

I almost feel as if the coach and leadership want to keep sinking the team by bringing in veteran players, without having won anything in Europe, without any creativity as Kostic, Savic, Paredes or Depay, what a shame. In my estimation, they should invest in young, explosive players who do damage up front like Zaniolo and Raspadori. If they should continue like this, it will be another year without winning anything.

I think there is no other choice because a club doesn't always have to look for local people, they can also bring in people from foreign countries if they are able to pay the right amount for their salary and when they take new people, the management must have considered this matter well and definitely cause problems like this and I'm sure the management can solve small problems like this.

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Quote from: Alanaz on August 07, 2022, 03:40:58 PM

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0-4 Juventus - Atletico.

We are in a deep water, it will be an hard year again for Juventus.

3 goals from their own ex Cheesy

Morata seemed to prove that he did not fit into the Juventus game and was more suited to playing with patterns and strategies that matched what he wanted.
Bad enough for Juventus in this regard and indeed this seems to prove that the level of Serie A is still below the level of the other leagues.

That was a savage hattrick lol

Morata always had a different energy when it comes to playing against his ex teams and whenever he moved out ... he always get a pretty great start but then just average.
Eventhough it's just a friendly , they are mostly playing with nearly 100% the winning team , yet they are demolished. I can only see that juventus aren't ready yet for this season serie A.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 07, 2022, 02:36:01 PM

0-4 Juventus - Atletico.

We are in a deep water, it will be an hard year again for Juventus.

I almost feel as if the coach and leadership want to keep sinking the team by bringing in veteran players, without having won anything in Europe, without any creativity as Kostic, Savic, Paredes or Depay, what a shame. In my estimation, they should invest in young, explosive players who do damage up front like Zaniolo and Raspadori. If they should continue like this, it will be another year without winning anything.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 07, 2022, 02:36:01 PM

0-4 Juventus - Atletico.

We are in a deep water, it will be an hard year again for Juventus.

it was a great humiliation and disappointment, in the past we were a great team, today we are at the bottom of the well, we are reduced to nothing, how low have we reached? losing against altético madrid like that is unacceptable and everything gets worse because juventus is not finding good players for the attack, and what the hell is this:

in a friendly game the coach was playing just to defend and conceded 4 goals, that's a lot of humiliation, how the hell does he intend to win the serie A with that? we don't have any chance of finishing in 3rd place

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Quote from: hahay on August 06, 2022, 04:27:01 AM

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It was only one time they lost last season but indeed last season, although Sasuolo's performance was not good, they were able to make some tackles for the big teams there, so it's possible this season will be like that too.
But indeed for the opening match I expected something more interesting here.

I personally will not doubt Juventus for the first match of the new season, because even though in the previous season Sassuolo could beat Juventus but in fact Juventus' unbeaten record against Sassuolo was even better. With a head to head result like that and also considering the quality of the current Juventus squad, then I personally will not doubt Juventus to win at Allianz Stadium. Although indeed, we are not justified in underestimating the opponent because it would be a big mistake, I am only optimistic that Juventus' dominance will be re-formed for the 2022/2023 season after the previous two seasons its dominance was broken.

When I look at Sassuolo I think Juventus can still win but if you look at his performance against Atletico some time ago, it's clear that Allegri still has a lot of work to do.
The crushing defeat against Atletico should have made them a little bit aware that they are still lacking everywhere especially in chemistry and cohesiveness in defending.

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Quote from: Doell on August 07, 2022, 05:27:18 PM

Besides that, there is still news that Juventus will sign Depay from Barcelona, the signal for Depay departure has also been seen in Barcelona, number 9 no longer for him. Juventus must immediately bring in new players, otherwise it will be difficult to survive in Serie A, Parades I don't think he is a good player for Juventus, even maybe in fact he doesn't suitable in Serie A.

maybe you mean juventus will be difficult to be a strong candidate team in the title race. indeed if they don't add players in this summer window I also support your perception that Juventus will not be strong this season in the race for the Scudetto title. Depay could be a good choice up front for Juventus if they really want to bring him in. Moreover, Juventus has a fairly large income from the sale of De Ligt to Bayern Munich some time ago. so it is appropriate for Juventus management to look for stickers that have high quality for this season.

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Right now Juventus is in big trouble because they let a lot of talented players go. Furthermore, a few of the players that Juventus brought in this season are not in a very favorable position. So even though it looks like Juventus are going to have a good season, they will be very lucky if they finish in the top four by the end of the season. They have problems in everywhere, attack defense midfield everywhere. I really don’t think they will be able to fix these problems soon.

They are rumored to bring 2 more players this month.

The hot names are Kostic and Parades, not sure if it is an overall improvement... They are 2 normal players. I don't think they can change the whole team.

Besides that, there is still news that Juventus will sign Depay from Barcelona, the signal for Depay departure has also been seen in Barcelona, number 9 no longer for him. Juventus must immediately bring in new players, otherwise it will be difficult to survive in Serie A, Parades I don't think he is a good player for Juventus, even maybe in fact he doesn't suitable in Serie A.

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Quote from: Tony116 on August 07, 2022, 04:54:51 PM

Right now Juventus is in big trouble because they let a lot of talented players go. Furthermore, a few of the players that Juventus brought in this season are not in a very favorable position. So even though it looks like Juventus are going to have a good season, they will be very lucky if they finish in the top four by the end of the season. They have problems in everywhere, attack defense midfield everywhere. I really don’t think they will be able to fix these problems soon.

They are rumored to bring 2 more players this month.

The hot names are Kostic and Parades, not sure if it is an overall improvement... They are 2 normal players. I don't think they can change the whole team.

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Quote from: sana54210 on August 07, 2022, 02:44:54 PM

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Except with many player are injury and disallowed I think Juventus still have bigger problem on defender central position area, they have loss with Matthijs de Ligt after playing for Bayern Munich and right now Juventus not really focus for finding new replacement position leave by Matthijs de Ligt. I think with Leonardo Bonucci is not really enough depending he was 35 years old, I don't see about who will be partner for Bonucci after leaving by Chiellini and De Ligt because on defender position have option with Daniele Rugani, he looks active as substitutes player for Juventus than other before still finding new defender.

They lost Chiellini as well, De ligt, Demiral, all players who are central defenders, and they lost them all in a single season. I have to say it is not going to be easy for them to recover from this right away, you do not have a solid back just with one summer window after losing 3 of your most important players.
I kept saying they should have kept Demiral, a defense line with Demiral and De Ligt would have been amazing, and now they have neither instead. In any case, if they are really serious about the current situation, then they could get someone on a loan, wouldn't be permanent solution but at the very least they could pay a lot less with just a loan situation, and would benefit from it financially.

Right now Juventus is in big trouble because they let a lot of talented players go. Furthermore, a few of the players that Juventus brought in this season are not in a very favorable position. So even though it looks like Juventus are going to have a good season, they will be very lucky if they finish in the top four by the end of the season. They have problems in everywhere, attack defense midfield everywhere. I really don’t think they will be able to fix these problems soon.

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