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Quote from: joker_josue on November 28, 2022, 05:42:37 AM

Quote from: babo on November 28, 2022, 03:50:02 AM

in this break I don't know how it will be handled by the teams
for sure the big teams that have many players at the World Cup will be worried and their players will come back tired
I think the small/medium teams will reserve us some surprises Cheesy

But, the fact that Italy is not participating in the World Cup, I believe it will reduce that impact a lot. It is true that the big clubs have players playing in the World Cup, even so the best Italian players remain in the clubs.
In turn, big clubs like Juventus will certainly go to the market to buy players, as they are in need.

There are still a lot of players in the world cup that came from serie A but probably not as much as other leagues I agree with that part.

I have to say there are a lot of leagues in the world that doesn't really have a lot of star level players, I agree that premier league, and la liga has them but when you look at it, ligue 1 has PSG with 3 or 4 great players and rest is just good players, they are good but that's it, and Serie A has a few teams that has 4-5 great players total and rest is just good, you can find that level of good players in Portugal or turkey or any other close level nation. So, it is those superstars that matters and many serie A superstars are in the world cup.

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Quote from: joker_josue on November 28, 2022, 05:42:37 AM

Quote from: babo on November 28, 2022, 03:50:02 AM

in this break I don't know how it will be handled by the teams
for sure the big teams that have many players at the World Cup will be worried and their players will come back tired
I think the small/medium teams will reserve us some surprises Cheesy

But, the fact that Italy is not participating in the World Cup, I believe it will reduce that impact a lot. It is true that the big clubs have players playing in the World Cup, even so the best Italian players remain in the clubs.
In turn, big clubs like Juventus will certainly go to the market to buy players, as they are in need.

Italy is not playing in the world cup. But that does not mean that all the Italian teams are going to have the players available. Because obviously there are a lot of players playing in the Italian League who are not Italian. So, obviously not all the clubs are going to have players fresh. Some clubs will have a few players getting tired and fatigued because of the world cup.

Juventus will need to sign some players. They are currently playing well. So, if they can get some players in the team, it would be very helpful for them after the world cup. But the problem is they do not have enough money as far as I know. So I am not sure if they will be able to make any changes. Remember they could not sack their coach because they did not have enough money to do so.

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Quote from: joker_josue on November 28, 2022, 05:42:37 AM

Quote from: babo on November 28, 2022, 03:50:02 AM

in this break I don't know how it will be handled by the teams
for sure the big teams that have many players at the World Cup will be worried and their players will come back tired
I think the small/medium teams will reserve us some surprises Cheesy

But, the fact that Italy is not participating in the World Cup, I believe it will reduce that impact a lot. It is true that the big clubs have players playing in the World Cup, even so the best Italian players remain in the clubs.
In turn, big clubs like Juventus will certainly go to the market to buy players, as they are in need.

Surely Juventus will sell some of their midfield players which are too many in my opinion, and added to Rabiot's game has shown very good performance from several Juventus matches from the international break, and Rabiot also played brilliantly in his country France was able to provide good Assists for his country to win from the French match, the young Juventus players are also playing brilliantly like Fagioli, Meretti, maybe Juventus will sell their midfielders Weston McKennie, Juan Cuadrado, because the two of them cannot compete in the main team, and later the proceeds from the sale will likely be used to buy defenders, because Juventus lack for defenders..

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The problem is that Roma don't have strategies good enough to fight for the league championship. Mourinho is still adopting the same old ones at Roma also. But with the current squad quality he has, he can definitely do much better than this. They have made really good improvements to the squad in last transfer window. They have made their attacking line even stronger with Dybala and Belotti additions. Belotti couldn't even find much chance in the Serie A so far. He mostly played for a short amount of time even his stats show it like he played in 12 matches.

Roma need an attacking-oriented game plan. They shouldn't play very cautiously against even the biggest opponents of them here. This is one of the main factors that are dragging them down in the standings. If Mourinho doesn't make the necessary changes I think Roma might think of bringing a more suitable manager by next season.

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Quote from: nara1892 on November 27, 2022, 02:33:31 PM

I don't know what happened to Jose Mourinho's team, AS Roma, which actually declined when other teams showed good changes. I was one of the people who was impressed with AS Roma's performance at the start of the season, but it didn't take long for my impression to distrust them. 1 win in their last 5 matches is not a good result, but a very bad result in my opinion because they failed to get many points to boost their position in the standings. From their last few matches, I haven't seen anything special that will later differentiate them from other teams. Jose Mourinho had to rack his brains and find a suitable strategy for AS Roma, because from what I saw their strategy was running monotonously, you could even say his squad couldn't implement the strategy that was instructed.

Jose Mourinho must do something to boost Roma's position. The competition for the top spot in Serie A this season is very tight. If you are unable to make changes, then it is likely that Rome will finish worse than the previous season. Even if we review last season's squad, this season the Giallorossi have made many significant squad changes. But the reality is that Rome's game is difficult to develop. I think Mourinho must immediately evaluate his current squad and the addition of new players is an absolute must for The Special One.

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Quote from: joker_josue on November 28, 2022, 05:42:37 AM

But, the fact that Italy is not participating in the World Cup, I believe it will reduce that impact a lot. It is true that the big clubs have players playing in the World Cup, even so the best Italian players remain in the clubs.
In turn, big clubs like Juventus will certainly go to the market to buy players, as they are in need.

If we talk about Juventus, what Juventus really has to do is add players who have above average skills and it should be a complete overhaul to make the efficiency of the Juventus players who have not contributed too much so that it can be completed and so that Juventus will only have players who potentially.

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Quote from: X-ray on November 28, 2022, 10:01:59 AM

There will be so many things happened after world cup especially during the transfer season. There will be lots of changes in the club just like osimhen that may go to the new club as napoli already planned to sell him during the transfer season with lots of money.
it seems like his chance to leave from napoli become even bigger caused by some clubs interested to sign him as a new striker. That was also forcing napoli to try the new formation again without him.

It would be a risk for Napoli if they let go of a player who this season has had a positive impact on their game. I can't think of them continuing to sell those players because it would throw off the balance in the squad they have right now. If I become a Napoli boss then I will keep the players who have contributed so far, at least if I want to sell I will sell them at the end of the season when the league is over. Logically if they sell now, they will return to looking for formula again because some players left. And that was a big risk they took because there was no guarantee that the player who replaced the position left behind would also play well. Although maintaining them is also not a guarantee they will not decline.

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Quote from: masulum on November 28, 2022, 07:57:43 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 27, 2022, 02:24:18 PM

-snip- It will be funny if, after the break, Napoli starts to increase the gap and not give chances to competitors, as many expect.

Yes, we are all still guessing and just looking at the history that happened to Napoli in the last few seasons after the mid-season break, Napoli showing bad performance. However, this season Napoli can give a much different result. There is a possibility that Napoli will making more points gap from Milan and Juventus with consistent performance. Napoli may just need to focus on their every game. They also have to remember that there are Top 3 killers from the lower and middle-tier teams in Serie A they are Torino, Sassuolo and Udinese are the teams they have to watch out for besides the big 4 Serie-A.

Good performance since the rolling League has brought Napoli to the top of the standings with a distance of 8 from Milan, Napoli needs to maintain its appearance to keep the distance with Milan who are still actively pursuing it in second place. Napoli players must focus on their goals After the international break, there are still many challenges that Napoli must overcome to create new history for the achievements achieved. Napoli still has a great chance of getting the Scudetto this season, while the Champions League is still gray because there are many big clubs that make it difficult for Napoli to get to the final.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on November 28, 2022, 06:51:54 AM

Quote from: crunck on November 27, 2022, 08:07:08 PM

There is no doubt that Napoli is playing well at the moment. In my opinion, they will not make the same mistake this season as they did last year. At least I hope that they don't make the same mistake again. Because now they have a really reasonable chance of actually winning the title. They also have a significant advantage which they should use to their benefit. There will be a lot of work that needs to be done by other teams in order to even come close to Napoli. The situation seems to be safe at the moment, but will this last for a long time to come?

Napoli has a good advantage to win the league if they remain consistent in their performance, but after the world cup no one knows what will happen to clubs if it will weaken the strength of players that can lead to weak performance of team. In the italian league right now Napoli is good to win the league.

There will be so many things happened after world cup especially during the transfer season. There will be lots of changes in the club just like osimhen that may go to the new club as napoli already planned to sell him during the transfer season with lots of money.
it seems like his chance to leave from napoli become even bigger caused by some clubs interested to sign him as a new striker. That was also forcing napoli to try the new formation again without him.

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Quote from: hahay on November 27, 2022, 09:55:02 PM

Although indeed, Jose Mourinho was able to give Roma a title for the Europa Conference League title and also, winning this title became a good history because Jose Mourinho and Roma became the first team to win the Europa Conference League title.
But I think that achievement is not the main goal, because the main goal is that Roma is expected to come back strong in the title race in Serie A, and Jose Mourinho still hasn't found the right way to return Roma as a strong team in Serie A.

I agree, the trophy presented by Jose Mourinho is not the main goal, because their goal is an even more prestigious title like Serie A or even higher like the Champions League. However, AS Roma and the fans welcomed what was given by Jose Mourinho and made them believe that in the cold hands of Jose Mourinho, AS Roma would soon get an even better title.
I also don't think that AS Roma will easily fire Jose Mourinho after seeing AS Roma's performance which is far from good. They will continue to provide an opportunity for The Special One to continue to handle AS Roma. I hope Jose Mourinho can answer the trust placed in him and return to present even higher achievements.

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Quote from: masulum on November 28, 2022, 07:57:43 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 27, 2022, 02:24:18 PM

-snip- It will be funny if, after the break, Napoli starts to increase the gap and not give chances to competitors, as many expect.

Yes, we are all still guessing and just looking at the history that happened to Napoli in the last few seasons after the mid-season break, Napoli showing bad performance. However, this season Napoli can give a much different result. There is a possibility that Napoli will making more points gap from Milan and Juventus with consistent performance. Napoli may just need to focus on their every game. They also have to remember that there are Top 3 killers from the lower and middle-tier teams in Serie A they are Torino, Sassuolo and Udinese are the teams they have to watch out for besides the big 4 Serie-A.

Napoli's current success is inseparable from Osimhen's sharpness since they started this season, so it's no wonder why MU and several other big teams really want Osimhen and also the Napoli defender (Kim Min Jae). Napoli deserves to be Serie A champions, they play amazingly, even in the UCL, I'm sure they have a great chance to enter the final. no one thought that in this season Napoli could get this far.

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Quote from: masulum on November 28, 2022, 07:57:43 AM

Yes, we are all still guessing and just looking at the history that happened to Napoli in the last few seasons after the mid-season break, Napoli showing bad performance.

In the past season, the long injury of Osimhen causes a lot of issue to Napoli. That injury did not impact their performance a few weeks after that but in long run, they felt the impact and has worse performance. Because Napoli did not have another striker with similar style of Osimhen. Other players in their system can not cover the absence of Osimhen weeks by weeks.

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However, this season Napoli can give a much different result. There is a possibility that Napoli will making more points gap from Milan and Juventus with consistent performance. Napoli may just need to focus on their every game. They also have to remember that there are Top 3 killers from the lower and middle-tier teams in Serie A they are Torino, Sassuolo and Udinese are the teams they have to watch out for besides the big 4 Serie-A.

I don't really expect that Napoli will be able to continue their current form and expand their gaps with other clubs like AC Milan, Juventus and other clubs at top of Serie A. Because so far Napoli have perfect performance so that it is unrealistic to think they can maintain it in a whole season. They will have worse performance some weeks that are chances for other clubs to reduce those big gaps.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 27, 2022, 02:24:18 PM

-snip- It will be funny if, after the break, Napoli starts to increase the gap and not give chances to competitors, as many expect.

Yes, we are all still guessing and just looking at the history that happened to Napoli in the last few seasons after the mid-season break, Napoli showing bad performance. However, this season Napoli can give a much different result. There is a possibility that Napoli will making more points gap from Milan and Juventus with consistent performance. Napoli may just need to focus on their every game. They also have to remember that there are Top 3 killers from the lower and middle-tier teams in Serie A they are Torino, Sassuolo and Udinese are the teams they have to watch out for besides the big 4 Serie-A.

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Quote from: maju69 on November 28, 2022, 12:30:56 AM

It will be a matter of time, any team that loses balance will suffer losses because their position must be shifted by other teams, including Napoli who are now 8 points ahead of AC Milan, 10 points from Jiventus and 11 points from Inter Milan and Lazio. We'll see that at least once the World Cup and League get back underway. We'll see which team makes themselves better during this World Cup break.

And you also have to see how many players from each team you mentioned were already in and playing for the world cup, because from that you can know exactly which team will still be good after the world cup. The fatigue of the core players and star players owned by each team became an obstacle in showing the best performance the team had ever shown before the world cup rolled around.

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Quote from: crunck on November 27, 2022, 08:07:08 PM

There is no doubt that Napoli is playing well at the moment. In my opinion, they will not make the same mistake this season as they did last year. At least I hope that they don't make the same mistake again. Because now they have a really reasonable chance of actually winning the title. They also have a significant advantage which they should use to their benefit. There will be a lot of work that needs to be done by other teams in order to even come close to Napoli. The situation seems to be safe at the moment, but will this last for a long time to come?

Napoli has a good advantage to win the league if they remain consistent in their performance, but after the world cup no one knows what will happen to clubs if it will weaken the strength of players that can lead to weak performance of team. In the italian league right now Napoli is good to win the league.

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Quote from: babo on November 28, 2022, 03:50:02 AM

in this break I don't know how it will be handled by the teams
for sure the big teams that have many players at the World Cup will be worried and their players will come back tired
I think the small/medium teams will reserve us some surprises Cheesy

But, the fact that Italy is not participating in the World Cup, I believe it will reduce that impact a lot. It is true that the big clubs have players playing in the World Cup, even so the best Italian players remain in the clubs.
In turn, big clubs like Juventus will certainly go to the market to buy players, as they are in need.

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in this break I don't know how it will be handled by the teams
for sure the big teams that have many players at the World Cup will be worried and their players will come back tired
I think the small/medium teams will reserve us some surprises Cheesy

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 27, 2022, 02:24:18 PM

Quote from: BALIK on November 26, 2022, 03:25:57 PM

There is no reason to think that Juventus and Napoli are only playing for the title. It is true that Juventus have performed very well in the last few matches. They have been able to solve all the problems within the party. But there is no way to underestimate the AC Milan team. Milan is now second in the table. So I would say if Napoli loses the truck and drop points in several matches, then Milan and Juventus will try to win the title. Milan's performance this season is quite good. There is no way to neglect this team.

I think that Inter and Lazio should not be discounted either. They are only one point behind Juventus and if, by some miracle, Napoli lose their lead, they too will be in the race for the title. However, while Napoli has such a huge margin of safety, this is just theoretical reasoning. It will be funny if, after the break, Napoli starts to increase the gap and not give chances to competitors, as many expect.

It will be a matter of time, any team that loses balance will suffer losses because their position must be shifted by other teams, including Napoli who are now 8 points ahead of AC Milan, 10 points from Jiventus and 11 points from Inter Milan and Lazio. We'll see that at least once the World Cup and League get back underway. We'll see which team makes themselves better during this World Cup break.

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Quote from: hahay on November 27, 2022, 09:55:02 PM

I don't think it's a surprising result anymore, because last season also Jose Mourinho couldn't do much when the team's performance continued to decline. This season the results like the previous season repeated again, Roma were good at the start but as time went on Roma remained difficult to survive at least in the top five of the Serie A standings.

This season does not end and it only goes a half of it. There are lot of matches in the rest of season after World Cup and we will return to this discussion in May 2023 when Serie A ends.

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Therefore, the change of coach for Roma so far has in fact not resulted in major changes because the previous coach Paulo Fonseca if I'm not mistaken, Paulo Fonseca also couldn't make Roma strong in the top five, just like what happened during Jose Mourinho's coaching.
Roma's hopes for Jose Mourinho are indeed great but unfortunately, Jose Mourinho really seems to have lost his specialty to make a strong team in the local league.

At least with Jose Mourinho, Roma becomes stronger in cup format and the trophy in EUFA Conference League last season is a good confirmation for what Jose Mourinho can do with Roma. He made history for the club because that is a first title in Europe for Roma, the first ever in their history.

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Although indeed, Jose Mourinho was able to give Roma a title for the Europa Conference League title and also, winning this title became a good history because Jose Mourinho and Roma became the first team to win the Europa Conference League title.
But I think that achievement is not the main goal, because the main goal is that Roma is expected to come back strong in the title race in Serie A, and Jose Mourinho still hasn't found the right way to return Roma as a strong team in Serie A.

Jose Mourinho is a coach and he can not play on behalf of players. Looking at their players please, they don't have too many changes in their squad and only Dybala is a most significant player they got from the past summer transfer. Dybala is important player for Mourinho in his mission to help Roma completes this season in top four.

This season, their attacking is worse than the past one when Tammy Abraham suddenly has very poor performance so far. The striker wasted too many opportunities and it is very different than the past season. So Roma and Mourinho will need both Dybala, Zaniolo and Tammy with better performances after World Cup.

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Quote from: nara1892 on November 27, 2022, 02:33:31 PM

I don't know what happened to Jose Mourinho's team, AS Roma, which actually declined when other teams showed good changes. I was one of the people who was impressed with AS Roma's performance at the start of the season, but it didn't take long for my impression to distrust them. 1 win in their last 5 matches is not a good result, but a very bad result in my opinion because they failed to get many points to boost their position in the standings. From their last few matches, I haven't seen anything special that will later differentiate them from other teams. Jose Mourinho had to rack his brains and find a suitable strategy for AS Roma, because from what I saw their strategy was running monotonously, you could even say his squad couldn't implement the strategy that was instructed.

I don't think it's a surprising result anymore, because last season also Jose Mourinho couldn't do much when the team's performance continued to decline. This season the results like the previous season repeated again, Roma were good at the start but as time went on Roma remained difficult to survive at least in the top five of the Serie A standings. Therefore, the change of coach for Roma so far has in fact not resulted in major changes because the previous coach Paulo Fonseca if I'm not mistaken, Paulo Fonseca also couldn't make Roma strong in the top five, just like what happened during Jose Mourinho's coaching.
Roma's hopes for Jose Mourinho are indeed great but unfortunately, Jose Mourinho really seems to have lost his specialty to make a strong team in the local league.

Although indeed, Jose Mourinho was able to give Roma a title for the Europa Conference League title and also, winning this title became a good history because Jose Mourinho and Roma became the first team to win the Europa Conference League title.
But I think that achievement is not the main goal, because the main goal is that Roma is expected to come back strong in the title race in Serie A, and Jose Mourinho still hasn't found the right way to return Roma as a strong team in Serie A.

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