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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 27, 2022, 01:17:56 PM

I don't like the idea of not focusing on titles for Juventus. Because it is the biggest motivation that can push them to play better. They can adopt this mentality this season as well even if it seems really difficult. Because they are already doing an amazing job in the league recently. They need a motivation source to keep up this good form as much as possible.

The gap was too big even if juventus has so many motivation to push the team to perform even better and that will not make any difference if napoli will always be winning the upcoming match. Focusing to defend the top 4 will be far better rather than try to think to get the trophy for this season caused by it's impossible for juventus to do that. Juventus needs to be even more consistent in the upcoming match. That will make it even better.

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Finishing in top 3 would be a really good success for them by the way. Despite a bad start it would still be a good achievement for them. Besides the Europa League title should also be a target for them. Allegri needs to be successful to remain in the team next season as well.

That's why juventus didn't have a very big plan to achieve the trophy. Being able to participate in the champion league for the next season will be good enough for juventus. It can also slowly improving the team as building the team will always have need lots of time to be consumed.

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I think Napoli should try to do better in the upcoming important matters after the World Cup. I think the matches against Juventus, Milan, and Inter are going to be very important for them. I believe looking at those matches we will be able to determine if they are actually going to play better after the World Cup or if are they going to choke again at an important time. I think this time they will actually be able to play well. They should learn enough from their previous seasons and now they should understand how to keep calm in these situations. In the end, I just cannot think that there will be throwing away that huge advantage that they have. They should be confident just knowing that they have a huge advantage coming after the break.

After World Cup over, Napoli have many crucial matches and I think to know with consistency depending match result against Inter Milan and Juventus. Should be careful for Napoli against Juventus after Allegri tactician team won 6 matches in a row and not easy for beating Juventus after returning to top performance in this season.
Napoli have bad experience last season with underperformance actually on second half season, ever get chance managed standing position but finally Milan and Inter make Napoli dropped and have finished on 3rd standing position, I think this season could be amazing for Napoli with unbeaten record and try consistency in the winning race.

There is no doubt that Napoli is playing well at the moment. In my opinion, they will not make the same mistake this season as they did last year. At least I hope that they don't make the same mistake again. Because now they have a really reasonable chance of actually winning the title. They also have a significant advantage which they should use to their benefit. There will be a lot of work that needs to be done by other teams in order to even come close to Napoli. The situation seems to be safe at the moment, but will this last for a long time to come?

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 27, 2022, 04:10:59 PM

Napoli should focus on not losing any of their crucial players in this transfer window indeed. Osimhen comes first of course. He is the key player in offense for the team with his goals. Real Madrid have been seriously interested in him for a long period of time. Maybe they might make an enquiry for him soon as well. But I expect Napoli to respond to them in a negative way. Napoli's focus should be winning the Serie A title and doing their best in the Champions League on one hand.

This is like the best season they are having in the recent years. If they achieve their main goals this season then they would be ready to lose some of their important players as well. They can make a lot more money and build even a stronger team for a more stable future.

But in my opinion Napoli will still sell Osimhen if the price is high over 100 million Euros, indeed Osimhen is key for Napoli, if that guy doesn't play for Napoli again then I'm so doubt they will be able to get the title. Aside from Real Madrid there is also Manchester United who are still interested, rumors about Osimhen are likely to continue until the end of this year. Let's hope Napoli don't forget their target, in Serie A.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 27, 2022, 01:17:56 PM

I don't like the idea of not focusing on titles for Juventus. Because it is the biggest motivation that can push them to play better. They can adopt this mentality this season as well even if it seems really difficult. Because they are already doing an amazing job in the league recently. They need a motivation source to keep up this good form as much as possible.

Finishing in top 3 would be a really good success for them by the way. Despite a bad start it would still be a good achievement for them. Besides the Europa League title should also be a target for them. Allegri needs to be successful to remain in the team next season as well.

I would say that Juventus definitely will finish in the top three, that really does look like a big possibility at this point and with the players who are injured returning back it will be even better for them for sure, they will have even better results.

There aren't that many players from the championship era that is left in the club right now, a few are there but most of them are newer players of the past 2-3 years and that means they haven't seen that domination period, and lived through the period where they lost most of the time. That is why I do not think that they really have that championship gene as of now, but they could end up having a great second half of the season for sure.

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Napoli should focus on not losing any of their crucial players in this transfer window indeed. Osimhen comes first of course. He is the key player in offense for the team with his goals. Real Madrid have been seriously interested in him for a long period of time. Maybe they might make an enquiry for him soon as well. But I expect Napoli to respond to them in a negative way. Napoli's focus should be winning the Serie A title and doing their best in the Champions League on one hand.

This is like the best season they are having in the recent years. If they achieve their main goals this season then they would be ready to lose some of their important players as well. They can make a lot more money and build even a stronger team for a more stable future.

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Big advantage in my opinion. Not only they will be fresh but also they will have more time to prepare and improve whatever they need to improve during this break even if I think they are solid in all areas. I don't think Napoli will cease any of those players until next summer and if they will win Serie A , I think they will sell none of them until they have the UCL run after winning Serie A. However, I'm sure a lot of important and respectable clubs are already watching they "brains" of Napoli from the pitch. Grin

Sure, it is a big advantage. During the league break, Napoli players can have enough time to prepare anything for the next matches. The coach can order the players to have more time for training. This is something that the players won't get if they join the world cup matches.
If the Napoli management and the coach are very serious to win Serie A title or UCL title, they surely won't sell any of their key players. They must refuse any offer in January although there is an interesting offer of big money from top clubs. I am sure there will be many offers from top clubs in the next transfer window, especially for Victor Osimhen. It is a big challenge for Napoli to ensure all players to stay until the end of the season.

If they do decide to let go of Victor Osimhen, I think it is going to be detrimental for them. They have a good thing going for them right now. And I think if they let go of the player who is scoring the most amount of goals for them, it is indeed going to be very bad for the club. He is a big reason why Napoli has a good advantage in the first place. There will be a lot of offers that are going to be “finger-licking good.” But they better not fall for those.

I think the best thing is going to be keeping the place that they already have and bringing in a few players that they feel like they will need going forward in the season.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on November 26, 2022, 04:23:57 PM

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There is no reason to think that Juventus and Napoli are only playing for the title. It is true that Juventus have performed very well in the last few matches. They have been able to solve all the problems within the party. But there is no way to underestimate the AC Milan team. Milan is now second in the table. So I would say if Napoli loses the truck and drop points in several matches, then Milan and Juventus will try to win the title. Milan's performance this season is quite good. There is no way to neglect this team.

In this case what you say is true, but with Milan's current condition they are actually quite cornered in my opinion especially with their financial condition which makes this a little difficult.
Milan's current condition in the standings is still very good but on the other hand we know that they currently have a lot of gaps that make them a little insecure and even after the break is over I'm actually still quite pessimistic about how they will face this season.

You're right that Milan is a bit of a mess right now. At the same time they are in a somewhat weaker position financially now. However, I did not see any weakness in Milan's attack. But their defense is a bit weak. And for that, they can back off. The Milan coach will definitely need to strengthen his defense after the World Cup break.

We are not sure how the teams will perform after the long World Cup break, or if the teams will be able to play with their main squads. The performances of Juventus and Napoli are also likely to deteriorate. But if you want to win the title, you have to keep the performance stable after the World Cup. And it will be unfortunate for the team if any key player is not with the squad due to injury.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 27, 2022, 01:40:23 PM

Juventus have been improving lately but I doubt that they will do much better than finishing in the top 4 of the table. 10 points is a distance that will be very difficult to catch if competitors can still maintain their current performance. I don't expect Juventus to be champions this season considering their game is still very far from good, they still really need an evaluation of every game they run.
Indeed, nothing is impossible, Napoli could fall again, but they also have to remember that Napoli's motivation is now so great after its failure last season. Juventus also depend on Luciano Spalleti's squad if they want to win the title this season. It's a shame they had to slip several times at the start of the season so now they have quite a point difference from the top of the standings.

Juventus's performance before this break was amazing, and they were at the top of the game with having five wins out of five matches and all matches won by clean sheets is also the biggest achievements which can give good signal to opponents that things could be completely different after the break, and they have to be at their best if they want to stay at the top of league table even right now difference is ten points but still with the nature of Serie A we can expect something interesting which is surely beauty of the soccer in UEFA.

Napoli needs to compete in this season with their momentum and if they slip then surely they could be out of the race for the top two contenders most we have issues near the end of the season which mostly create problems for them, and they lost the race due to having no existing things around this league.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 26, 2022, 05:03:22 PM

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In this case what you say is true, but with Milan's current condition they are actually quite cornered in my opinion especially with their financial condition which makes this a little difficult.
Milan's current condition in the standings is still very good but on the other hand we know that they currently have a lot of gaps that make them a little insecure and even after the break is over I'm actually still quite pessimistic about how they will face this season.

Napoli's consistent performance and Juventus recent form is surely matter of concern for the current champions and second position holder in league table because now if they want to stay at this rank or increase their chance for the defence of their title then surely they need to invest in coming winter transfer window and bring few quality players which are essential for them without them, they can do down because Juventus is already at his best with Lazio and Inter are also doing good work, and they also can give challenge to top teams and try to catch their chance for the Champions League spot.

Hopefully management will do some positive work for the improvement of the quality because this is surely important task for them if they want to have chance for the top spot which is surely not possible without good players which surely need good funds as well.

Investing more in this transfer for Milan is not as easy as one might think, especially with their current financial problems, of course, this is making it even more difficult for them.
I think instead of making this more investment, it's not even impossible, they will reduce their players, especially now that Madrid's interest in Leao is still there and to maintain their finances, they don't rule out the possibility that they will sell their expensive players.

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I don't know what happened to Jose Mourinho's team, AS Roma, which actually declined when other teams showed good changes. I was one of the people who was impressed with AS Roma's performance at the start of the season, but it didn't take long for my impression to distrust them. 1 win in their last 5 matches is not a good result, but a very bad result in my opinion because they failed to get many points to boost their position in the standings. From their last few matches, I haven't seen anything special that will later differentiate them from other teams. Jose Mourinho had to rack his brains and find a suitable strategy for AS Roma, because from what I saw their strategy was running monotonously, you could even say his squad couldn't implement the strategy that was instructed.

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Quote from: BALIK on November 26, 2022, 03:25:57 PM

There is no reason to think that Juventus and Napoli are only playing for the title. It is true that Juventus have performed very well in the last few matches. They have been able to solve all the problems within the party. But there is no way to underestimate the AC Milan team. Milan is now second in the table. So I would say if Napoli loses the truck and drop points in several matches, then Milan and Juventus will try to win the title. Milan's performance this season is quite good. There is no way to neglect this team.

I think that Inter and Lazio should not be discounted either. They are only one point behind Juventus and if, by some miracle, Napoli lose their lead, they too will be in the race for the title. However, while Napoli has such a huge margin of safety, this is just theoretical reasoning. It will be funny if, after the break, Napoli starts to increase the gap and not give chances to competitors, as many expect.

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Quote from: Tony116 on November 27, 2022, 12:29:29 PM

I think Napoli should try to do better in the upcoming important matters after the World Cup. I think the matches against Juventus, Milan, and Inter are going to be very important for them. I believe looking at those matches we will be able to determine if they are actually going to play better after the World Cup or if are they going to choke again at an important time. I think this time they will actually be able to play well. They should learn enough from their previous seasons and now they should understand how to keep calm in these situations. In the end, I just cannot think that there will be throwing away that huge advantage that they have. They should be confident just knowing that they have a huge advantage coming after the break.

After World Cup over, Napoli have many crucial matches and I think to know with consistency depending match result against Inter Milan and Juventus. Should be careful for Napoli against Juventus after Allegri tactician team won 6 matches in a row and not easy for beating Juventus after returning to top performance in this season.

Napoli have bad experience last season with underperformance actually on second half season, ever get chance managed standing position but finally Milan and Inter make Napoli dropped and have finished on 3rd standing position, I think this season could be amazing for Napoli with unbeaten record and try consistency in the winning race.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 27, 2022, 01:17:56 PM

I don't like the idea of not focusing on titles for Juventus. Because it is the biggest motivation that can push them to play better. They can adopt this mentality this season as well even if it seems really difficult. Because they are already doing an amazing job in the league recently. They need a motivation source to keep up this good form as much as possible.

Finishing in top 3 would be a really good success for them by the way. Despite a bad start it would still be a good achievement for them. Besides the Europa League title should also be a target for them. Allegri needs to be successful to remain in the team next season as well.

Juventus have been improving lately but I doubt that they will do much better than finishing in the top 4 of the table. 10 points is a distance that will be very difficult to catch if competitors can still maintain their current performance. I don't expect Juventus to be champions this season considering their game is still very far from good, they still really need an evaluation of every game they run.
Indeed, nothing is impossible, Napoli could fall again, but they also have to remember that Napoli's motivation is now so great after its failure last season. Juventus also depend on Luciano Spalleti's squad if they want to win the title this season. It's a shame they had to slip several times at the start of the season so now they have quite a point difference from the top of the standings.

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I don't like the idea of not focusing on titles for Juventus. Because it is the biggest motivation that can push them to play better. They can adopt this mentality this season as well even if it seems really difficult. Because they are already doing an amazing job in the league recently. They need a motivation source to keep up this good form as much as possible.

Finishing in top 3 would be a really good success for them by the way. Despite a bad start it would still be a good achievement for them. Besides the Europa League title should also be a target for them. Allegri needs to be successful to remain in the team next season as well.

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Quote from: Tony116 on November 27, 2022, 12:29:29 PM

I think Napoli should try to do better in the upcoming important matters after the World Cup. I think the matches against Juventus, Milan, and Inter are going to be very important for them. I believe looking at those matches we will be able to determine if they are actually going to play better after the World Cup or if are they going to choke again at an important time. I think this time they will actually be able to play well. They should learn enough from their previous seasons and now they should understand how to keep calm in these situations. In the end, I just cannot think that there will be throwing away that huge advantage that they have. They should be confident just knowing that they have a huge advantage coming after the break.

They have worked hard from the start of this season and their proof is now visible because indeed if I'm not wrong even a lot of people doubted Napoli when they sold some of their core players and now they have succeeded in making a better regeneration which indicates they have worked hard to this.
I think they will still be the same if there are no significant changes in terms of players because if they still maintain the current scheme and players they will still be very strong.

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Quote from: iamsange on November 27, 2022, 10:45:14 AM

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We don't know yet about how this World Cup break will affect the teams. But in my opinion, Napoli can still come back with the same strength as long as they don't face injury problems after the break. They will have many big games waiting for them right after coming back to the league as well.
If they win these big games as usual then it will be even more difficult to stop them for any of the remaining teams. Milan are technically the closest team in the standings but I don't believe in them too much to keep up with Napoli in the meantime. The gap is already 8 points so Milan need to move on with a long winning streak to have a chance.

Napoli will have a crucial match in January. They will face Juventus and Inter Milan, these two teams will of course have the potential to destroy Napoli's winning record. So because of that, Spalletti must prepare his troops from now on because the World Cup break could change the atmosphere in the team.
Napoli will certainly benefit because not many of its players have competed in the World Cup compared to its three competitors, Juventus, Milan and Inter. But Spalletti also has to be wary of his players competing in Qatar with injuries and a drop in performance which of course will affect the team. But I'm sure Spalletti has prepared several options and Napoli will fight it out this season to win the Scudetto and it will be very difficult to stop because the points gap is now wide enough.

I think Napoli should try to do better in the upcoming important matters after the World Cup. I think the matches against Juventus, Milan, and Inter are going to be very important for them. I believe looking at those matches we will be able to determine if they are actually going to play better after the World Cup or if are they going to choke again at an important time. I think this time they will actually be able to play well. They should learn enough from their previous seasons and now they should understand how to keep calm in these situations. In the end, I just cannot think that there will be throwing away that huge advantage that they have. They should be confident just knowing that they have a huge advantage coming after the break.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on November 27, 2022, 07:05:53 AM

Juventus shouldn't focus too much on winning titles, they should focus more on their own game. The reason is that it is true that they have won in a row, but I cannot say that their game is satisfactory. In fact, I think in some of their wins it was a stroke of luck that came their way. There is time for them to be able to perform even more satisfactorily, also some of the players have recovered from injury.

If they shouldn't focus in winning the title I don't think they will even be serious with their games. If their target is winning the title and they end up not winning atleast it can make them to achieve a better position. They never had Interest in winning the title that is why they are not stable in performance.

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Quote from: maju69 on November 26, 2022, 02:34:28 PM

Yes, the slightest mistake will make them punished by other teams who are also threatening them. They should be able to minimize the mistakes they make. Napoli must continue to carry out evaluation after evaluation to keep them from the mistakes that continue to haunt each of their matches. Also about concentration, that's usually what makes players make mistakes, they have to be able to maintain their focus so they don't get lost.

What Napoli needs is focus, they have to focus on performance as has been shown since the start of the season. The International Break has given Napoli players a bit of a break especially for those who were not called up for the national team at the World Cup.
Spalletti will need to watch every single one of his players to keep fit during the break, a mistake made after the international break could threaten to lose him in position. The competition for the Scudetto continues, Napoli must not give the slightest room for its competitors to disturb their position.

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After a bad start, Juventus still somewhat in the track of Napoli. They are also unlucky that Napoli takes so many points and actually leaves nothing behind.

We can see the progress of Juventus' development in Serie A is very good. Even in several matches they never lose and always win with satisfying results and games. Their failure in the UCL certainly gave a bitter lesson so they kept trying in the Italian Serie. Although maybe this is also too difficult to get the title, moreover, the number of points is very different from Napoli. Napoli itself is the most consistent and growing club. But I don't know if after the FWC there will be a change in players at the club or not, which might interfere with Napoli's performance. Because after all there are some big clubs aiming at some Napoli players.

Juventus shouldn't focus too much on winning titles, they should focus more on their own game. The reason is that it is true that they have won in a row, but I cannot say that their game is satisfactory. In fact, I think in some of their wins it was a stroke of luck that came their way. There is time for them to be able to perform even more satisfactorily, also some of the players have recovered from injury.

Anyway, Juventus still have to watch out for, because if Napoli are satisfied with the results they have got so far. Then it might make Napoli suffer a decline in performance, but if Napoli can realize that they still have to be consistent, then of course it will be difficult for other teams to catch up to this.
But with the good results that Juventus have achieved in the last few matches, I personally don't think it's just luck.

Because for me, a team as big as Juventus will certainly be able to recover over time and if I'm not mistaken, last season Juventus also almost failed to finish in the top four, but in the end Juventus were able to finish in the top four.
Therefore, I believe that the increase in performance that has occurred at Juventus is a result of their hard work, because with this increase in performance, Juventus have also managed to beat other big teams such as Milan, Inter and Lazio.
If the increase in Juventus' performance is just luck, then at least Juventus will not be able to beat these big teams, but because this is a real increase in performance, it is proven that Juventus can beat these big teams.

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Quote from: lulumiya on November 26, 2022, 01:16:04 PM

We don't know yet about how this World Cup break will affect the teams. But in my opinion, Napoli can still come back with the same strength as long as they don't face injury problems after the break. They will have many big games waiting for them right after coming back to the league as well.

If they win these big games as usual then it will be even more difficult to stop them for any of the remaining teams. Milan are technically the closest team in the standings but I don't believe in them too much to keep up with Napoli in the meantime. The gap is already 8 points so Milan need to move on with a long winning streak to have a chance.

Napoli will have a crucial match in January. They will face Juventus and Inter Milan, these two teams will of course have the potential to destroy Napoli's winning record. So because of that, Spalletti must prepare his troops from now on because the World Cup break could change the atmosphere in the team.

Napoli will certainly benefit because not many of its players have competed in the World Cup compared to its three competitors, Juventus, Milan and Inter. But Spalletti also has to be wary of his players competing in Qatar with injuries and a drop in performance which of course will affect the team. But I'm sure Spalletti has prepared several options and Napoli will fight it out this season to win the Scudetto and it will be very difficult to stop because the points gap is now wide enough.

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