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Quote from: buwaytress on June 25, 2022, 02:11:45 PM

Quote from: mv1986 on June 25, 2022, 06:16:23 AM

I would say the "legend status" is a little bit overused at Anfield

But it is because Klopp has a pretty strong character and he doesn't talk bad about any player when they leave. He even fiercely protected Karius back at the time when he failed twice big time in the CL final against Madrid.

I think that is a good way to behave. Soccer is business after all and everyone involved should know that.

Think about the new contract of Mbappe in Paris: everyone was screaming at him because he didn't go to Real Madrid. But let's be real, if someone puts a case with 300 million just as a signing fee in front of your eyes, what would you do?

So Origi is indeed an interesting player as he has good statistics in terms time played : scorer points ratio. He can definitely be a good addition to any team. Coming to another club with a "legend status" can't hurt Wink

Ha, I sort of agree and disagree. Maybe take out what Klopp might say (he speaks from the heart but I don't recall him ever saying legend and Karius in the same sentence haha) and no, we don't always label people here and there.

But Liverpool (or should I say Anfield) does have a way of conferring their love for the best-loved players... cult heroes I can call them, who don't necessarily achieve much, but play with heart. No one will be able to say, for example, Igor Biscan was a legendary player, but he was loved (and I too!)... and certain of his place in Anfield lore. Cult favourite, he even had a nickname Zinedine Biscan haha but man, he played his heart out against United and Arsenal... and you know Anfield will love you forever for that.

As for Origi: cult favourite, hero for sure. But I do think of him as a legend as well, simply for some extremely defining moments such as the 2 goals against Barcelona? And the way the goals were scored? Wow, that goal is replayed a hundred times. And his header against Everton in the final moment to keep our hopes alive for the title? Wow. One from an amazing corner from Trent, the other from some crazy punt from VVD. And again last December against Wolves, 0-1 Liverpool injury time goal from Origi... and Klopp apparently told him on substituting him in: "Just be Divock".

Legend.

Well, what can I say against the points you brought up? Wink

Lol, yes, Karius' story at Liverpool was a tough one. But Karius seems to me as if he is more about enjoying live than being a pro athlete. There are more reports about him being with new chicks and changing his hairstyle than about his efforts and achievements in his career as a pro. He was fine with having a contract in Liverpool, earning good money and call it a day. Sure he was disappointed about the CL final, but still there is this attitude where you feel someone really wants to make it back into the first squad, and I never had that feeling about Karius. Maybe he just doesn't have sufficient talent in the first place. But attitude and character and willpower doesn't seem to be on an absolute top level either for Karius.

Regarding Origi: true points! From that perspective, yes, you can become a legend because of a single action in your professional career - Mario Götze 2014! Wink

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on June 28, 2022, 11:46:41 AM

I don’t know much about Milan but I think they surely are going to be behind Inter. Milan is also good, don't get me wrong. But Inter is a better team in my opinion. Even in the last season if they didn’t lose points in crucial times they actually could have won the title. And I am not so sure about Juventus being behind Milan because Milan is not very active on the transfer market. And on the other hand, Juventus is very actively seeking the best combination for the team. So, I think Juventus can actually bring some surprising results in the next season. And Juventus is also doing great work in managing the economy as well.

Now I think this season may even be difficult to predict for Milan because indeed they are also very difficult with the crisis they have at the moment and this obviously makes it even more difficult for them to focus and improve the team for next season.
Now it seems that Inter and Juventus are more ready to go through the season even though they are still struggling financially but much better than Milan.

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Juventus also has a healthy bank account, but also has many expenses. They have also spent quite a bit of money in recent years of course. Mathijs de Ligt may be leaving, and Bonuci and Chiellini have had their best times, haven't they? If all 3 disappear then you have a serious problem in the back. And when all 3 were in it last season, they also conceded way too many goals. If Juventus cannot solve that problem defensively, they will not become champions.

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According to the news on Goal.com, Juventus are opening talks with Nicolo Zaniolo now. He is a 22-year-old big talent for Roma and he is valued around 33 million euros in the transfer market currently according to Transfermarkt. So far in his career, he had two serious injuries in the 19/20 and 20/21 seasons. His being injury prone might scare Juventus a little but it looks like they are going for him anyway. It would be a wonderful transfer for Juventus together with signing Paul Pogba also. Zaniolo is a right winger normally but he can play even as a second striker too. After releasing Dybala this might come in handy for them.

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/juventus-talks-roma-50m-rated-italy-zaniolo/bltf22dad9884016603

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Quote from: Falconer on June 28, 2022, 02:25:33 PM

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on June 28, 2022, 12:46:50 PM

competition in Serie A for the trophy next season seems to be getting more exciting. Juventus have bigger ambitions to do better than this season. Juventus didn't say much about competing with Milan and Inter last season. and now there's Pogba and Di Maria, I'm sure, Juventus will be stronger than last season.

Of course, the new players who were brought in in the transfer market will help Juventus in the 2022/2023 season. That is hope, but if we talk about title chances then teams like Milan, Inter and Napoli are also still good enough to be named as candidates. Pogba and Di Maria will help Juventus, but that doesn't mean Juventus can win the title at the end of the season.

Juve is planning big and have many names to contact like Zaniolo from Roma, Kostic from Frankfurt, Paredes, Koulibaly in addition to Pogba and Di Maria.
There is also a rumour about Chelsea trying to sign De Ligt and exchange it with Werner and maybe others. Juve transfer window is pretty hot Wink

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on June 28, 2022, 12:46:50 PM

competition in Serie A for the trophy next season seems to be getting more exciting. Juventus have bigger ambitions to do better than this season. Juventus didn't say much about competing with Milan and Inter last season. and now there's Pogba and Di Maria, I'm sure, Juventus will be stronger than last season.

Of course, the new players who were brought in in the transfer market will help Juventus in the 2022/2023 season. That is hope, but if we talk about title chances then teams like Milan, Inter and Napoli are also still good enough to be named as candidates. Pogba and Di Maria will help Juventus, but that doesn't mean Juventus can win the title at the end of the season.

I am interested to know Milan's situation about which players they will sign to defend their title. Milan is my favourite, but it's hard to expect him to win the title twice in a row.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on June 28, 2022, 10:28:28 AM

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Ronaldo is in a difficult position right now - for him every year is almost like the last (and maybe the last) and he wants to use his time as efficiently as possible. But United hasn't shown any ambition so far (even though they seem to have 200 million for transfers). Leaving for Chelsea/City/Tottenham is probably impossible due to a conflict of interest with the fans, for Ronaldo, reputation matters. Leaving for Bavaria because of the money (although in my opinion Ronaldo could have agreed to a pay cut). Leaving for PSG due to the vagaries of Messi. Maybe a return to Juventus would be a good option, especially if PSG could send Neymar there. But so far it is very unlikely that things will turn out this way.

I am at a loss here and I think a lot of people are as well. Cristiano Ronaldo is clearly not happy in Manchester United and even though he is a really good player I don’t think a lot of teams are very interested in him. Even though Cristiano Ronaldo is a player of high caliber at this moment it feels like he’s not going to be good in any top tier team composition. This is a really weird situation to be in especially when he does not have too much time left in his career. I have always been thinking that he should not stay in Manchester United but right now it does feel like if he is able to play well in Manchester United and Manchester United also produce some good results, in the next season (the season after this) it will be really great to see him play in the champions league.
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Ronaldo was good at Sporting, then at United, then at Real Madrid, then at Juventus, then again at United (he was also good at the national team) but now you say that he cannot be good at some top team? Huh

I wish I knew what led you to this conclusion. The only thing that now serves as an obstacle to the transition of Ronaldo to any top club is his big salary.

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Quote from: mia_houston on June 28, 2022, 11:34:56 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on June 27, 2022, 07:06:35 PM

There is a very high probability for Di Maria to join Juventus very soon like 93 percent on Transfermarkt. His contract has nearly ended as there are only a few days to go. I believe that Di Maria would still be a quite beneficial player for Juventus. Maybe people can criticize this transfer showing his age as the reason for that. However he is still playing good without caring about his being 34 years old. This is a really good thing for a player as it makes him special.

It's just a step away from Juventus getting one of the best wingers ever, according to Fabrizio Romano, now Juventus and Di Maria only need to finalize the final details of the deal before Di Maria is announced as a new Juventus player, from various reliable information it's likely that in the next few days Juventus will announce this, after successfully getting pogba and making the juventus midfield more solid, right now their attack line is also more complex with the arrival of Di Maria, although Di Maria is no longer young but the experience and creativity possessed by Di Maria will be very profitable for Juventus next season.

I know that Ángel Di María is not a young player anymore. But he will be a great asset for Juventus in the upcoming season. that’s because Juventus did not have a very good midfield in the last season and that’s why their attacking lineup also did not work very well.

But now the midfield of Juventus is better with Paul Pogba in the team. And with Ángel Di María in the team, Juventus is going to have a lot more stability. I think Ángel Di María is going to play the role of winger or attacking midfielder. Because he does not have very good strength and that’s why I don’t think he will be in any defensive role for Juventus. Juventus actually got really good players for free this season.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 27, 2022, 07:16:46 PM

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But I really highly doubt that Cristiano Ronaldo is going to be back in the Italian league. The last I heard was that he was thinking about staying in Manchester United. So, in that comparison I think going to Juventus or Milan should be considered a good move. First of all, he will be able to play in the champions league, and secondly, I think he will have better support from his team.

There are too many rumors about him. But the most interesting rumor is Bayern wants to sign him as the replacement for Lewandowski. I assume he prefers to move to a new league if he really decides to leave Man United. He ever played in EPL, La Liga, and Serie A, he should be interested to play in Bundesliga if he has an opportunity. Bayern opens the door to welcome him to Bundesliga, I believe Ronaldo seriously considers this offer. If he moves to Bayern, he is able to play in UCL and he makes his own history by playing in 4 best leagues in the world.
Regarding the chance to return to Italia, I also very much doubt it. I don't see any reason that Ronaldo should be interested to come back there. He is a typical player who likes a new challenge, and it is surely not in Serie A.

The problem is Ronaldo himself is indecisive right now. A lot of people are saying that he should stay at Manchester United and others are saying that he really should move. I also think that he actually should move and not stay. But eventually, it is going to be his own decision. We all know that he doesn’t have too many things left to achieve in his career. But he has reached the end of his career. It is going to be really better for him if he is able to achieve as much as he can in these times. The problem is he is old and I don’t think teams are going to be investing in him at this stage of his career.

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Quote from: masulum on June 28, 2022, 12:38:31 PM

Quote from: skarais on June 28, 2022, 11:43:05 AM

I wanted to tell you about some of Di Maria's stats so far, but unfortunately I can't access the data from Transfermarkt at this time. So I can assure you that Di Maria is worthy of Juventus.

Allegri is the type of coach who needs a creator from midfield, the arrival of Di Maria will fill that need. However, will see how Di Maria with Allegri, if he can adapt with stragy from Allegry very well, then Juventus has a much greater chance of becoming champions than Milan. This will be a season that will be more interesting, because the arrival of Pogba and Di Maria will add to the strength of Juventus in destroying Milan duo that dominated Serie A last season.

competition in Serie A for the trophy next season seems to be getting more exciting. Juventus have bigger ambitions to do better than this season. Juventus didn't say much about competing with Milan and Inter last season. and now there's Pogba and Di Maria, I'm sure, Juventus will be stronger than last season.

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Quote from: skarais on June 28, 2022, 11:43:05 AM

I wanted to tell you about some of Di Maria's stats so far, but unfortunately I can't access the data from Transfermarkt at this time. So I can assure you that Di Maria is worthy of Juventus.

Allegri is the type of coach who needs a creator from midfield, the arrival of Di Maria will fill that need. However, will see how Di Maria with Allegri, if he can adapt with stragy from Allegry very well, then Juventus has a much greater chance of becoming champions than Milan. This will be a season that will be more interesting, because the arrival of Pogba and Di Maria will add to the strength of Juventus in destroying Milan duo that dominated Serie A last season.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 27, 2022, 03:28:05 PM

It will not be "easy" for Juventus to recover from this past 2 years, but they will not be terrible team neither, they will be fine. They will probably fight for a title like everyone expects, but they are not going there easily, I would say they would be third behind Milan and Inter. Those two teams have been great for the past 2 years and they do not look to be getting any worse neither. Hence, why I believe that they would be pretty good.

Overall, I think the best case Juventus has is getting players that would be not too expensive and would allow them to grow better overnight. Di Maria talk matters because of this, he would make them a lot better, and shouldn't cost too much.

I don’t know much about Milan but I think they surely are going to be behind Inter. Milan is also good, don't get me wrong. But Inter is a better team in my opinion. Even in the last season if they didn’t lose points in crucial times they actually could have won the title. And I am not so sure about Juventus being behind Milan because Milan is not very active on the transfer market. And on the other hand, Juventus is very actively seeking the best combination for the team. So, I think Juventus can actually bring some surprising results in the next season. And Juventus is also doing great work in managing the economy as well.

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Quote from: babo on June 28, 2022, 11:21:02 AM

I agree with you
I don't know this player very much, but he looks good and certainly can give a lot of help to the team, which suffered a lot in the previous season

I'm not saying that he solves everything, but he certainly gives a hand
I need other players in my opinion (also in defense)

Well, I can tell you that Di Maria is a player of great quality. He has helped Real Madrid win a number of titles, he has also helped PSG win titles, so I think he can also help Juventus achieve the same feat at the end of the season, but of course Di Maria cannot do it alone.

I wanted to tell you about some of Di Maria's stats so far, but unfortunately I can't access the data from Transfermarkt at this time. So I can assure you that Di Maria is worthy of Juventus.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 27, 2022, 07:06:35 PM

There is a very high probability for Di Maria to join Juventus very soon like 93 percent on Transfermarkt. His contract has nearly ended as there are only a few days to go. I believe that Di Maria would still be a quite beneficial player for Juventus. Maybe people can criticize this transfer showing his age as the reason for that. However he is still playing good without caring about his being 34 years old. This is a really good thing for a player as it makes him special.

It's just a step away from Juventus getting one of the best wingers ever, according to Fabrizio Romano, now Juventus and Di Maria only need to finalize the final details of the deal before Di Maria is announced as a new Juventus player, from various reliable information it's likely that in the next few days Juventus will announce this, after successfully getting pogba and making the juventus midfield more solid, right now their attack line is also more complex with the arrival of Di Maria, although Di Maria is no longer young but the experience and creativity possessed by Di Maria will be very profitable for Juventus next season.

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Quote from: skarais on June 28, 2022, 10:58:29 AM

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I support Di Maria to Juventus, he is a player who can help the team attack better mainly because of his speed and experience. I would like to see him there for a few seasons, but we will have to wait to see if Juventus will finalize this signing.
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I agree with you
I don't know this player very much, but he looks good and certainly can give a lot of help to the team, which suffered a lot in the previous season

I'm not saying that he solves everything, but he certainly gives a hand
I need other players in my opinion (also in defense)

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 27, 2022, 11:22:39 PM

I don't think so, in fact with Juventus now it's clear they need a player who has a fairly good fenetration coupled with passes that spoil the striker.
The end of the season they have been going pretty well although it started off badly but in this case they are still struggling to get the ball flowing in midfield at the moment so there is not much supply to the attack.
The existence of Di Maria will obviously be something that benefits them.

For anyone doubting Di Maria then I think they have thought something wrong about him. Di Maria is a player who is still quite useful for anything including Juventus, he is not young anymore but his performance is still worth considering. Last season I saw him often playing for PSG, he was still very fast but because PSG have Messi in the same position, Di Maria was more often on the bench.

I support Di Maria to Juventus, he is a player who can help the team attack better mainly because of his speed and experience. I would like to see him there for a few seasons, but we will have to wait to see if Juventus will finalize this signing.

Quote from: zuzie on June 28, 2022, 10:40:00 AM

I predict maybe Juventus will not give Angel Di Maria a contract of more than 3 years

For players who are 34 years old, usually the team will offer a 1-2 season contract with the option of an extension of 1 year if the player plays very well. So it's good to hope he gets a 1-2 season contract at Juventus.

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There is a very high probability for Di Maria to join Juventus very soon like 93 percent on Transfermarkt. His contract has nearly ended as there are only a few days to go. I believe that Di Maria would still be a quite beneficial player for Juventus. Maybe people can criticize this transfer showing his age as the reason for that. However he is still playing good without caring about his being 34 years old. This is a really good thing for a player as it makes him special.

the rumors of where Di Maria landed have finally been answered where the 34-year-old player after being rumored to be going to Barcelona but Di Maria finally officially joined Juventus after his contract at PSG expired this season, how are you doing Juventus reached an agreement to join Turin Juventus are currently working on contract details with Angel Di Maria. The player will be paid 7 million euros or Rp. 109.4 billion per season and will soon be in Turin to undergo medical tests. And will be introduced to the Turin public in the near future

Still haven't found any confirmation from either side. However, if look at its potential, Juventus is the only club with strong potential to get Angel Di Maria's signature contract. But I wonder, will his arrival make a difference or help Juventus next season? Yes, considering the appearance of the 34-year-old player declined in the next few seasons. I predict maybe Juventus will not give Angel Di Maria a contract of more than 3 years

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 27, 2022, 05:04:24 PM

Ronaldo is in a difficult position right now - for him every year is almost like the last (and maybe the last) and he wants to use his time as efficiently as possible. But United hasn't shown any ambition so far (even though they seem to have 200 million for transfers). Leaving for Chelsea/City/Tottenham is probably impossible due to a conflict of interest with the fans, for Ronaldo, reputation matters. Leaving for Bavaria because of the money (although in my opinion Ronaldo could have agreed to a pay cut). Leaving for PSG due to the vagaries of Messi. Maybe a return to Juventus would be a good option, especially if PSG could send Neymar there. But so far it is very unlikely that things will turn out this way.

I am at a loss here and I think a lot of people are as well. Cristiano Ronaldo is clearly not happy in Manchester United and even though he is a really good player I don’t think a lot of teams are very interested in him. Even though Cristiano Ronaldo is a player of high caliber at this moment it feels like he’s not going to be good in any top tier team composition. This is a really weird situation to be in especially when he does not have too much time left in his career. I have always been thinking that he should not stay in Manchester United but right now it does feel like if he is able to play well in Manchester United and Manchester United also produce some good results, in the next season (the season after this) it will be really great to see him play in the champions league.

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Quote from: hahay on June 28, 2022, 02:35:22 AM

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After his contract ended with PSG, Di Maria has agreed to move to Juventus. Di Maria has completed most of the terms with Juventus, reportedly a deal worth €7 million per year has been agreed with a one-year contract + option to extend for another year. Di Maria tries to play at a high level in order to appear in the highest football stage (World Cup), Di Maria performance still looks very good, Juventus can rely on him in the wing midfielder position.
The presence of Di Maria in the Juventus squad is also a positive signal for the Juventus midfield, last season Di Maria has recorded five goals and nine assists from 31 appearances in all competitions with PSG. Juventus are very lucky to be able to get Di Maria on a free transfer because they are in need of new players for the 2022-2023 season after appearing less than satisfactory last season.

Yes, it is the final age that is very possible for Di Maria to end his career at Juventus, but actually if Di Maria still wants to play at his old age after leaving Juventus, it looks like Di Maria can still play in MLS for example. But regardless of career and age, I personally still strongly believe that Di Maria still has a chance to become the main player in the Juventus squad later, this is a wish for me that has come true and with this I also believe that Juventus will again be a candidate for the title winner next season.

Juventus can rely on Di Maria and Paul Pogba in midfield, the arrival of Di Maria can ease the burden on Juventus after a disappointing performance last season. At the age of 34, Di Maria is still able to play at a high level, I think it is not difficult for Di Maria to enter the Juventus main squad.
After bringing in Paul Pogba and Di Maria to fill the midfield, Juventus still have unresolved problems. Juventus will strengthen the back line after the departure of Chiellini and Leonardo Bonucci has expired, now Juventus only has De Ligt as a trusted central defender. To strengthen the back line, Juventus are looking for a central defender who can partner with De Ligt, Gabriel Maghallaes and Guillermo Maripan as their next targets.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 27, 2022, 10:08:54 AM

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The question is which players are they interested in?

We already know about Inter actually. They are making an effort to sign Romelu Lukaku back on a loan deal this time. This is going to be a very profitable deal for them undoubtedly. Because they have sold him to Chelsea for a huge price like 113 million euros and now they are close to having him back by this favourable deal. It would be great to watch the well-known duo (Lukaku-Martinez) again on the condition that Martinez doesn't leave the team to join Tottenham.

When it comes to Milan I've heard that they are interested in Andrea Belotti lately but let's see. He is a decent striker but I still have some doubts about him at the same time.

The thing is, Inter is not bringing Lukaku into the team as a transfer. They are bringing him in as a loan player. I am not saying that the salon suggests that they don’t have a good amount of money but as far as I know the financial situation of Inter-is not very good. But they are getting good enough players in my opinion. The next season can be very well.

About Milan, I have not heard anything that is really worth mentioning. I don’t know if they are going to make big changes. But they really should think about making those changes pretty fast.

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