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A bizarre end to the Juventus match, with no less than 4 red cards at the end. Where do you still see such denouements? Great for the neural football spectator. The worst of all is that the goal (the 3-2) was wrongly disallowed. Don't they have VAR there that can check things well there? I think the VAR should have seen this, now Juventus has just been robbed of 2 important points. Juventus already had a bad/moderate start, and it has only gotten worse. I also did not expect the 1-1 of Atalanta.

I don't think, Juventus will achieve anything from this tournament because their performance in some matches made people to believed that this season is not for Juventus. I believe, what happened to Juventus in this match is for them to learn a lesson on how to be careful with football rules. I know many people are not happy about what happened to Juventus that made some of their players to received yellow card and red card from the match, because many people predicted for Juventus to defeat their opponent 3-1 but the game changed for the favour of Juventus opponent at the end of the match.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 13, 2022, 09:29:48 PM

What an important result inter Milan archive in the champions League that will do them or give them more confidence in the Saria A, it was an important victory and is good seeing Edin dzeko scoring and having an assist, he needs this goal because right now inter will depend on him to be providing goals since Lukaku is still out, lautaro Martinez can't do it on his own, the Italian league is tough this season, Napoli are playing like a team that have something to prove after challenging inter Milan and AC Milan throughout last season and just three points behind the champion AC Milan last season.

Team battles in the top 6 of the Serie A standings this season are indeed surprising. Serie A looks more exciting and could become like a very competitive Premier League.
it's still early, and the pursuit of points for each team is certainly still natural. those who can be more consistent in the game of course will be luckier.
Napoli also impressed last season, no wonder they can be at the top of the table. Inter's opportunities are still open, especially with the squad that is still not the best. Inter's biggest challenges are Napoli and Milan. they have to perform better.

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What an important result inter Milan archive in the champions League that will do them or give them more confidence in the Saria A, it was an important victory and is good seeing Edin dzeko scoring and having an assist, he needs this goal because right now inter will depend on him to be providing goals since Lukaku is still out, lautaro Martinez can't do it on his own, the Italian league is tough this season, Napoli are playing like a team that have something to prove after challenging inter Milan and AC Milan throughout last season and just three points behind the champion AC Milan last season.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 13, 2022, 06:21:26 AM

Even though they won, AS Roma's game could not be said to be good. Even against Empoli who are below them the quality is still very difficult.
But this victory can add to their confidence again after last week swallowed a very embarrassing result. This is an important asset for them for the next match.

Roma and Mourinho are realistic that they are not too strong to play a beauty and sexy football but at the same time can achieve good results. They are realistic to be flexible by adjusting their tactics by opponents and different times within a match. They won against Empoli by an excellent performance of Dybala and some moments of their star players. Their defense especially the goalkeeper Patricio did played a good match to protect their leading goal until the final whistle.

Quote from: rozak on September 13, 2022, 06:32:14 AM

Roma did not appear so strong. but they are better enough. they gain momentum to continue winning in the next match in Serie A and the Europa League.

As discussed, they know about that but they know if they can collect points from average and weak teams, they can bet more in big clashes with top clubs. Top four or even Scudetto is in their hands and is reachable.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on September 13, 2022, 05:56:58 PM

It can be said that Juventus is very lucky to get into the Champions League but unfortunately Juventus does not yet have the strength to be able to compete with several other big clubs, so this is very detrimental to Juventus because they cannot perform optimally and give victory to the Juventus fans. They have to get up and try their best to get away from group H.

this always often happens to big clubs like Juventus, as we can see in another league like MU were lost versus a weak club but got a big winning when meeting a strong club. So, I don't surprise because this is a classic problem which means the solution is not only a player between a coach and the official also, and I think they need a more bonus or any kind to boost the spirit.

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Juventus is big team and wins for each matches is mandatory to keep their chance for race title so draw against weak teams is not so different to lose and they had lost several chances to get full points from their previous matches against weak teams so this proven Juventus has starting the league with poor performance and sacked rumours for Allegri was appears because some of fans didn't satisfied with his works and now Allegri should be solved this issues because their contender such as Napoli or Milan can playing better than them and tomorrow Juventus will play against Benfica on champion league this shouldn't be failed again because if Juventus failed to win i am sure the management will considering his position

There is a possibility that Allegri fate will be decided in the UCL when Juventus against Benfica. This match is also believed to be very important for the Juventus squad considering the match against Benfica will be played at the Juventus stadium so Allegri will definitely put pressure on the Juventus players to win this match in order to improve their unsatisfactory performance. If you look at the standings in Serie A, I think Juventus is not far behind their rivals, both AC Milan and Inter Milan. At the beginning of this season, several other teams or low-ranking teams last season were able to perform better than the big teams which made the competition in Serie A this season more exciting than the previous season.

With the poor results achieved by Juventus at the start of this season, which in Serie A dropped too many points to make them have to be
in 8th place. Then in the Champions League also Juventus failed to win, so as you said this is a very heavy pressure for Allegri. I also believe
that Juventus match against Benfica in the Champions League will decide the fate of Allegri, if Juventus fail to win again, it is not impossible
that Allegri will be fired by Juventus. Because Juventus must be admitted is a strong team with a good history, so Juventus performance should not
be as bad as it is now. I hope Allegri learns from some of the mistakes he made, and can change his strategy so that Juventus performance
can improve for the better. At least Allegri must make Juventus win against Benfica, because if you compare the quality of players, it is clear
that Juventus is much better than Benfica. So victory against Benfica is something that must be achieved.

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Juventus is big team and wins for each matches is mandatory to keep their chance for race title so draw against weak teams is not so different to lose and they had lost several chances to get full points from their previous matches against weak teams so this proven Juventus has starting the league with poor performance and sacked rumours for Allegri was appears because some of fans didn't satisfied with his works and now Allegri should be solved this issues because their contender such as Napoli or Milan can playing better than them and tomorrow Juventus will play against Benfica on champion league this shouldn't be failed again because if Juventus failed to win i am sure the management will considering his position

this season I see it really hard and difficult
is not performing well as a team at all

it will be because he is in an unlucky period, but in the end the thing that interests him most is going to the Champions League

It can be said that Juventus is very lucky to get into the Champions League but unfortunately Juventus does not yet have the strength to be able to compete with several other big clubs, so this is very detrimental to Juventus because they cannot perform optimally and give victory to the Juventus fans. They have to get up and try their best to get away from group H.

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But they can't continue in that situation, against a weaker club maybe it won't be that much of a problem and they will still win the game because they are more effective. But if they were dealing with the same qualities they would really be at a disadvantage. Jose Mourinho must immediately fix this, otherwise the situation at the time against Udinese will repeat itself.

If Roma's goal is to win the title, Mourinho will definitely have to learn from his mistakes and correct them. Otherwise they won't be able to climb the points table. If there is no consistency in performance, it is not possible to win the title. Roma's performance this season has been quite stable and consistent. But their performance against Udinese disappointed everyone. Mourinho should try to strengthen their defense. Otherwise, they will lose more points against strong teams in the future.

It's in the past and there's no need to bring it up as they seem to have forgotten the loss as they managed to win against Empoli a few days ago.
Now they just need to focus on correcting mistakes and keeping their defense from always conceding points because even if they score this goal it will be very difficult if their defense also can't defend well.

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Quote from: bering on September 13, 2022, 07:28:19 AM

Juventus is big team and wins for each matches is mandatory to keep their chance for race title so draw against weak teams is not so different to lose and they had lost several chances to get full points from their previous matches against weak teams so this proven Juventus has starting the league with poor performance and sacked rumours for Allegri was appears because some of fans didn't satisfied with his works and now Allegri should be solved this issues because their contender such as Napoli or Milan can playing better than them and tomorrow Juventus will play against Benfica on champion league this shouldn't be failed again because if Juventus failed to win i am sure the management will considering his position

this season I see it really hard and difficult
is not performing well as a team at all

it will be because he is in an unlucky period, but in the end the thing that interests him most is going to the Champions League

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Quote from: bering on September 13, 2022, 07:28:19 AM

Juventus is big team and wins for each matches is mandatory to keep their chance for race title so draw against weak teams is not so different to lose and they had lost several chances to get full points from their previous matches against weak teams so this proven Juventus has starting the league with poor performance and sacked rumours for Allegri was appears because some of fans didn't satisfied with his works and now Allegri should be solved this issues because their contender such as Napoli or Milan can playing better than them and tomorrow Juventus will play against Benfica on champion league this shouldn't be failed again because if Juventus failed to win i am sure the management will considering his position

There is a possibility that Allegri fate will be decided in the UCL when Juventus against Benfica. This match is also believed to be very important for the Juventus squad considering the match against Benfica will be played at the Juventus stadium so Allegri will definitely put pressure on the Juventus players to win this match in order to improve their unsatisfactory performance. If you look at the standings in Serie A, I think Juventus is not far behind their rivals, both AC Milan and Inter Milan. At the beginning of this season, several other teams or low-ranking teams last season were able to perform better than the big teams which made the competition in Serie A this season more exciting than the previous season.

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Quote from: skarais on September 13, 2022, 04:07:05 AM

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Juventus continues to perform awfully and the team has no sense of identity. But the game against Salernitana also had one of the biggest VAR mistakes since the system got introduced to the world of football a few years ago. It's unbelievable that with today's technology, the entire playing surface isn't covered with multiple cameras to cover all possible angles. Candreva was more than 50cm closer to his own goal line than Bonucci was in the penalty area and the Refereeing Committee claims they didn't have that particular footage in the VAR room. Disgraceful.
The thing is, there is a possibility for the match to be replayed according to different media reports. Apparently if the referee's report shows that a mistake was made that directly influenced the result and final outcome of the match, it can be replayed. Even if that was the case, and Juventus' goal cancellation is the direct result of a non-existing offside, there is no way in hell they will let a Juve match be replayed. Not that Juventus deserves a second chance the way they are playing.
Allegri is successfully steering the ship to the bottom of the sea. The management has to react before it's too late. I don't think they will.

Regardless if it's the referee's fault and the VAR then I don't think Juventus are at their best. I don't think they are a strong team this season even though the big name is a bit scary for opponents, but the form this team has is much different. Juventus have 4 draws to date where Fiorentina, Roma, Samdoria and Salernitana managed to make them just 1 point per match. It was clearly bad for Juventus and they had to quickly find his missing identity.
Allegri is responsible for the decline in his team's current form, they also seem weak in the Champions League even though it was only the first matchday against PSG. This week they will play Benfica, if Juventus lose then I believe they don't really deserve to be favorites to qualify for the last 16.

Does anyone remember that when the season started, everyone was saying that Juventus is not going to perform well because they have some injury problems in the team?

But contrary to popular belief Juventus started performing quite well. And everyone was actually surprised that this type of performance was being produced by Juventus. But I think currently they are suffering from the hit of injuries. Right now they are not performing as well as they should have been. Or even as they started performing at the start of the season. I really don't know if all the blame goes to the coach. Because when injury hits a coach cannot do anything.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 13, 2022, 11:36:38 AM

Quote from: boltz on September 13, 2022, 11:10:11 AM

Serie A is a very tight one this year so don't expect top 5 teams to have winning streaks or 3-4+ of winning games because we can see clearly that everyone is fighting for points now and every points count for each of the teams. Also teams involved into European competitions , will sometimes prefer to risk the game in Serie A in order to get points in UCL or Europa League or even Conference. Meantime , let's see how Inter performs today against Plzen. Grin

Youre right bror, play in Europe makes the performance of some clubs decline due to the tight schedule of matches, I think this opportunity can be used by other teams who did not qualify for Europe to provide strong competition in the league, the tight schedule of matches of course forced the coach to good at rotating players otherwise they will have a bad impact at the league level because it is not uncommon for many players to get injured due to fatigue and ultimately benefit other teams.

Yes, Serie A this season seems very competitive compared to the last few seasons. Until this week, several teams that were considered mediocre last season are now able to dominate the Serie A standings. Juventus and Inter Milan, which are the most dominating teams in the League, are now starting to be knocked out of the top four zones.

The competition for the scudetto this season will be much tighter and it is not impossible that a new champion will be born again. Technical and strategic matters must be read by every coach, sometimes a busy schedule and getting injured players and card accumulation will be a stumbling block in the future.

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Even though they won, AS Roma's game could not be said to be good. Even against Empoli who are below them the quality is still very difficult.
But this victory can add to their confidence again after last week swallowed a very embarrassing result. This is an important asset for them for the next match.

if you look at the statistics, Rome is still losing to the host Empoli. which is in terms of quality under Roma. lucky Dybala scored early in the first half. and Abraham's goal midway through the second half.
Roma did not appear so strong. but they are better enough. they gain momentum to continue winning in the next match in Serie A and the Europa League.

In that Match Dybala could have played well, made 1 goal and 1 assist but if Pellegrini had managed the penalty kick then it would have been a better win with the score 3-1. But unfortunately, Pellegrini failed to score a goal from a penalty kick which made Roma once again only get a narrow 2-1 win, even though Roma did not have a tough opponent in the Europa League. If playing against a mediocre team in the Europa League still can't win, then it looks like Roma will get consecutive defeats for the next two matches in Serie A. Because Roma will play against Atalanta and then against Inter and indeed, Roma can still hold a draw but I personally not so sure because Roma still have to play their main squad against mediocre teams in the Europa League if they want to win and that will make the rotation of players not going well.

Although a win is a win I have to say that scoring one more goal would have been better for their stats. It was unfortunate that Pellegrini missed that penalty but I wouldn't worry too much about him as they already won that match. But on the other hand, you are quite right that getting a narrow win against a mediocre team is not expected from them. They will have quite a tough time against Inter and Atlanta in the following games in Seria A. I hope that they will be able to find out the mistakes in the previous games and correct them in the next matches.

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Quote from: boltz on September 13, 2022, 11:10:11 AM

Also teams involved into European competitions , will sometimes prefer to risk the game in Serie A in order to get points in UCL or Europa League or even Conference. Meantime , let's see how Inter performs today against Plzen. Grin

Like there is a doubt about Inter victory Wink

Inter won with 2 goals, scored by Dzeko and Dumfries, vs 0 to Plzen which I expect them to get 0 point in this group. Underdog and unlucky team.
Milan will have a game tomorrow vs Zagreb, Napoli will face Rangers and Juve - Benfica. Italian teams have the advantage and they should win.

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A bizarre end to the Juventus match, with no less than 4 red cards at the end. Where do you still see such denouements? Great for the neural football spectator. The worst of all is that the goal (the 3-2) was wrongly disallowed. Don't they have VAR there that can check things well there? I think the VAR should have seen this, now Juventus has just been robbed of 2 important points. Juventus already had a bad/moderate start, and it has only gotten worse. I also did not expect the 1-1 of Atalanta.

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Roma must have a very good defensive line. They have only 1 defeat at the moment and I can say that they went well.

They need to improve both. In defense, improve it stronger to reduce conceded goals. In offense, they must improve the conversion rate from chances, expected goals to real goals. They must achieve such improvements if they want to not only end in top four but also to win Scudetto.

As Roma need consistency and mental confidence and most importantly need additional players in the midfield and defenders because practically pelegrini, Cristiano has no replacement, defender is not too good if Mancini is injured there is no replacement either.
If the opposing team has a good quality of finishing touch, they have already lost to As Roma. That's why As Roma can lose against Udinese.

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If Roma's goal is to win the title, Mourinho will definitely have to learn from his mistakes and correct them. Otherwise they won't be able to climb the points table. If there is no consistency in performance, it is not possible to win the title. Roma's performance this season has been quite stable and consistent. But their performance against Udinese disappointed everyone. Mourinho should try to strengthen their defense. Otherwise, they will lose more points against strong teams in the future.

However, Rome looks to have decreased when compared to last season. Despite having won a few games, Roma still has problems in the team.
Roma must immediately improve the performance of the squad if they want to fight for the trophy. but if they are without targets this season, of course, they can play as they please. even without a target certainly will not produce anything this season.
Next up is Atalanta, we'll see how Roma will face a tough team.

I don't think Roma's performance has weakened compared to the previous season. Their performance is still quite strong. But they are not able to maintain the consistency of performance. Their forwards are still not strong enough. Roma's performances would have been stronger if Dybala could have performed better on a regular basis. But Dybala is not a regular scorer. Roma should have brought in another experienced striker. If Mourinho can get this team to qualify for the Champions League, that would be a good enough result for Roma.

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Quote from: boltz on September 13, 2022, 11:10:11 AM

Serie A is a very tight one this year so don't expect top 5 teams to have winning streaks or 3-4+ of winning games because we can see clearly that everyone is fighting for points now and every points count for each of the teams. Also teams involved into European competitions , will sometimes prefer to risk the game in Serie A in order to get points in UCL or Europa League or even Conference. Meantime , let's see how Inter performs today against Plzen. Grin

I think that series in 3-4 games will meet quite often. The first six teams now have 4 wins out of 6 games - this is not the worst indicator, and given that some clubs will be able to solve their problems that they experienced at the start of the championship, their performance will be even more stable. And in general, the situation when the leaders often lose points is quite acceptable - you can bet on underdogs and have more frequent wins than in La Liga or the Premier League.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on September 13, 2022, 12:05:03 PM

If Roma's goal is to win the title, Mourinho will definitely have to learn from his mistakes and correct them. Otherwise they won't be able to climb the points table. If there is no consistency in performance, it is not possible to win the title. Roma's performance this season has been quite stable and consistent. But their performance against Udinese disappointed everyone. Mourinho should try to strengthen their defense. Otherwise, they will lose more points against strong teams in the future.

However, Rome looks to have decreased when compared to last season. Despite having won a few games, Roma still has problems in the team.
Roma must immediately improve the performance of the squad if they want to fight for the trophy. but if they are without targets this season, of course, they can play as they please. even without a target certainly will not produce anything this season.
Next up is Atalanta, we'll see how Roma will face a tough team.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 13, 2022, 11:03:41 AM

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Even though they won, AS Roma's game could not be said to be good. Even against Empoli who are below them the quality is still very difficult.
But this victory can add to their confidence again after last week swallowed a very embarrassing result. This is an important asset for them for the next match.

if you look at the statistics, Rome is still losing to the host Empoli. which is in terms of quality under Roma. lucky Dybala scored early in the first half. and Abraham's goal midway through the second half.
Roma did not appear so strong. but they are better enough. they gain momentum to continue winning in the next match in Serie A and the Europa League.

But they can't continue in that situation, against a weaker club maybe it won't be that much of a problem and they will still win the game because they are more effective. But if they were dealing with the same qualities they would really be at a disadvantage. Jose Mourinho must immediately fix this, otherwise the situation at the time against Udinese will repeat itself.

If Roma's goal is to win the title, Mourinho will definitely have to learn from his mistakes and correct them. Otherwise they won't be able to climb the points table. If there is no consistency in performance, it is not possible to win the title. Roma's performance this season has been quite stable and consistent. But their performance against Udinese disappointed everyone. Mourinho should try to strengthen their defense. Otherwise, they will lose more points against strong teams in the future.

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