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Quote from: Oneandpure on September 08, 2022, 11:29:55 AM

Jose Mourinho could said not easy how to build AS Roma become solid team, but not really bad with first season achievement success got UEFA Conference League, but defeated by Udinese last week make Jose Mourinho bad reputation exactly loss with bigger score 4-0. Jose Mourinho still need to add several player on next window transfer opening although he has make balanced with AS Roma team player on half season can finish on top standing position.
Serie A more competitive in this season without have many different points and standing position, I think still have chance for AS Roma make better position standing finish in this season because Atalanta as 1th place standing just 3 points different from AS Roma, I think if can consistent for next match will have chance back to the top position again for AS Roma.

All coaches have suffered big losses against underdogs. This is not entirely a mistake but it could be a stroke of luck for Udinese because in that match the coach and player strategies could not be applied properly. So, Roma became unable to maintain their defense. If only because of this defeat or the subsequent defeats in the future then Roma Board considers sacking Mourinho, I'm worried that AS Roma will take longer to get back into the big 4.

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Quote from: masulum on September 06, 2022, 09:55:09 AM

If AS Roma wants instant results it will hard. because Mourinho still needs players who fit his strategy and currently it is still not balanced. At Inter Milan and Madrid, Mourinho continued a team that was already solid, while at AS Roma, he had to start from a team that already had a mentality that need to be rebuilt in order to have the confidence, psychology and desire to win. Mourinho was successful in the UEFA Conference League Cup, it's been a good start, maybe in the next few seasons, we'll see Roma get better again.

Jose Mourinho could said not easy how to build AS Roma become solid team, but not really bad with first season achievement success got UEFA Conference League, but defeated by Udinese last week make Jose Mourinho bad reputation exactly loss with bigger score 4-0. Jose Mourinho still need to add several player on next window transfer opening although he has make balanced with AS Roma team player on half season can finish on top standing position.
Serie A more competitive in this season without have many different points and standing position, I think still have chance for AS Roma make better position standing finish in this season because Atalanta as 1th place standing just 3 points different from AS Roma, I think if can consistent for next match will have chance back to the top position again for AS Roma.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 08, 2022, 04:28:09 AM

Inter Milan will host Torino, surely this is not an easy match for Inter Milan. Torino have bagged a few wins this season and are slightly better off than Inter Milan although they haven't really got a tough opponent. Now Inter Milan must be wary of movements from Torino, because once they let their guard down it could be a defeat for Inter Milan.

I believe Inter can handle it, after suffering losses in the last two match, coach Inzaghi will probably put his full strength to avoid defeat from Torino in the coming days.
After that in the seventh week of Serie A Inter will face Udinese, Udinese's performance is at its peak and they have the opportunity to beat Inter.

Inter must make the most of the match against Torino so that their position does not sink further in the Serie A standings.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 08, 2022, 05:07:30 AM

Morinho is very frustrated at the loss,but if he straightens and addresses the issues and problems that made him loose,he will be able to defeat Empoli,but if he neglects it,thesame tactics Udinese used in winning them will also be used and they will still defeat his team despite the record they have against Empoli.Roma was doing well this season,therefore,they shouldn't allow the defeat to affect them mentally,because if it does,it will be very bad for the team,and it will affect the moral of the team.

This only first lose so don't take it too serious because there are plenty upcoming matches available and regarding Mourinho tactic he was used same tactic for each matches since week 1 even while against Juventus the formation is similar such as against Udinese but the difference is Udinese manager Andrea Sottil is clever and know how to counter it so that's why he can bring Udinese won with big scores but next match will be different because i am sure Mourinho already anticipated it and he confident Roma can win from Empoli

Rather than being frustrated with their condition and their recent defeat, I think it would be better if they focused on their next match.
Right now they have to focus on the Europa League against Ludogorets and Empoli in Serie A.
It should be with their current condition and the quality of the opponents they are facing could be a good thing for them and there is no time to reminisce on the past games as they have quite a busy schedule right now.

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Quote from: Ripe_berry on September 08, 2022, 01:08:28 AM

Some big club are suffering the start of the new season may be because the season just started and club are trying to get their feet roma with a manager mourinho should do better in the italian league they will bounce back certainly

Yeah but it seems like almost all of clubs have been performing so well but maybe some are still struggling to get their best performance. So far roma is still being very consistence on its performance. it was only losing when it was against udinese. I do believe if roma may come back again to the right track. It's able to compete with the big clubs like juventus or napoli. It seems like seria a became more competitive like EPL

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 08, 2022, 05:07:30 AM

Morinho is very frustrated at the loss,but if he straightens and addresses the issues and problems that made him loose,he will be able to defeat Empoli,but if he neglects it,thesame tactics Udinese used in winning them will also be used and they will still defeat his team despite the record they have against Empoli.Roma was doing well this season,therefore,they shouldn't allow the defeat to affect them mentally,because if it does,it will be very bad for the team,and it will affect the moral of the team.

This only first lose so don't take it too serious because there are plenty upcoming matches available and regarding Mourinho tactic he was used same tactic for each matches since week 1 even while against Juventus the formation is similar such as against Udinese but the difference is Udinese manager Andrea Sottil is clever and know how to counter it so that's why he can bring Udinese won with big scores but next match will be different because i am sure Mourinho already anticipated it and he confident Roma can win from Empoli

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Quote from: babo on September 08, 2022, 02:56:21 AM

exactly
they have enough quality at Rome because they bought some good players
if they didn't take Mourinho and take other players, it was certainly going even better than how it has recently been
my opinion

It's true, and the evidence is there even if it's just a Conference trophy but it's one of the things that is actually quite good for Roma at the moment. Regardless of how eccentric Mou is in coaching and the fans are divided between likes and dislikes, Mou is still clearly able to bring Roma to a form that is quite good so far.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on September 07, 2022, 05:59:13 PM

I still have same positivity for Atalanta knowing they can sure do better than this. Jose Mourinho and his side also, but the loss to udinese is already a turn off chasing the league at these early periods.

Yes it was a little surprising that their steps were stopped by Udinese. They even had to lose by a score that was far from what was predicted. AS Roma started well and had to be beaten by the non-favorites to win. Indeed this often happens in Serie A, where they always find it difficult to maintain consistency and that is experienced by AS Roma now.

Anyway, Roma will still have a chance to compete in the top six but a massive 4-0 loss by Udinese is totally unacceptable, Mourinho must be able to fix the situation quickly. In the next match, Roma will play against Empoli, whose record on paper Roma will be able to win easily, if Mourinho can overcome the problems quickly then I believe Roma will win big too in the next match against Empoli. Roma should be more aggressive to win by a big score, because they have great strikers now which is certainly good to boost their morale.

Morinho is very frustrated at the loss,but if he straightens and addresses the issues and problems that made him loose,he will be able to defeat Empoli,but if he neglects it,thesame tactics Udinese used in winning them will also be used and they will still defeat his team despite the record they have against Empoli.Roma was doing well this season,therefore,they shouldn't allow the defeat to affect them mentally,because if it does,it will be very bad for the team,and it will affect the moral of the team.

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Quote from: AakZaki on September 07, 2022, 11:59:06 PM

Defeat by a considerable margin. It's a surprise and I laughed. I think if Roma lose it's just a one-goal or two-goal difference. A quick goal in the fifth minute made Roma even more devastated and frustrated. Their second half was further ruined.
Roma looked so amateurish, besides that they also had to lose the injured Tammy Abraham. Perhaps Mourinho is also not calm as they will take on Ludogorets in the Europa League on Thursday. This adds to the list of injured players after previously Nicolo Zaniolo also got a shoulder injury.

Roma was seeded when they traveled to Udinese headquarters, but unexpectedly Roma played badly and without high determination. Udinese took advantage of Roma omission to score goal after goal which made the match end 4-0. As a result of the poor results obtained by Roma, now there are only four clubs who have not lost until week 5 in Serie A 2022-2023, they are Napoli, Milan, Juventus and Atalanta. The 4-0 defeat to Udinese was also Mourinho worst defeat since taking charge of the Serie A club.

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Quote from: babo on September 08, 2022, 02:56:21 AM

exactly
they have enough quality at Rome because they bought some good players
if they didn't take Mourinho and take other players, it was certainly going even better than how it has recently been
my opinion

Hmm... what's wrong with Mourinho? If he is so bad then why did he win the last two European titles for Serie A, and not all the others who are good? Roll Eyes

And what can you say about Inter and Juventus, which are now lower in the standings than Roma, Udinese and Torino? I think the fans (and management) of these teams also expected a better start.

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Inter Milan will host Torino, surely this is not an easy match for Inter Milan. Torino have bagged a few wins this season and are slightly better off than Inter Milan although they haven't really got a tough opponent. Now Inter Milan must be wary of movements from Torino, because once they let their guard down it could be a defeat for Inter Milan.

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Pos	Squadra	Punti	G	V	N	P	GF	GS
1	Atalanta	13	5	4	1	0	9	2
2	Napoli	11	5	3	2	0	12	4
3	Milan	11	5	3	2	0	10	5
4	Udinese	10	5	3	1	1	9	5
5	Roma	10	5	3	1	1	6	5
6	Torino	10	5	3	1	1	6	5
7	Juve	9	5	2	3	0	7	2
8	Inter	9	5	3	0	2	11	8
9	Lazio	8	5	2	2	1	7	5
10	Salernitana	6	5	1	3	1	7	4
11	Fiorentina	6	5	1	3	1	4	4
12	Sassuolo	6	5	1	3	1	3	5
13	Verona	5	5	1	2	2	6	9
14	Spezia	5	5	1	2	2	5	9
15	Empoli	4	5	0	4	1	4	5
16	Bologna	3	5	0	3	2	5	8
17	Lecce	2	5	0	2	3	3	6
18	Sampdoria	2	5	0	2	3	2	9
19	Cremonese	1	5	0	1	4	4	9
20	Monza	0	5	0	0	5	2	13

the best attack at the moment is that of Napoli with 12 goals
the best defense is by Atalanta and Juventus (with 2 goals conceded)
the worst attack is from Monza / Sampdoria with 2 goals scored
the worst defense is that of Monza with 13 goals conceded (last in the standings)

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Quote from: AakZaki on September 07, 2022, 11:59:06 PM

Quote from: BuNga_cute on September 05, 2022, 07:19:09 AM

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All Roma players are playing below standard, maybe only Dybala is playing well enough, unfortunately Dybala failed to take advantage of the two
big opportunities he got. I'm sure Mourinho will evaluate Roma's poor game against Udinese, basically Roma have quality players that are quite good
this season. Maybe because Roma got a positive result in the previous match, then Roma underestimated Udinese a bit. Even though Udinese is
a team that cannot be underestimated, even before they managed to beat Fiorentina. I believe Roma will do better in the next match.

Defeat by a considerable margin. It's a surprise and I laughed. I think if Roma lose it's just a one-goal or two-goal difference. A quick goal in the fifth minute made Roma even more devastated and frustrated. Their second half was further ruined.
Roma looked so amateurish, besides that they also had to lose the injured Tammy Abraham. Perhaps Mourinho is also not calm as they will take on Ludogorets in the Europa League on Thursday. This adds to the list of injured players after previously Nicolo Zaniolo also got a shoulder injury.

Their defeat against Udinese was a downfall and of course they have to recover to keep getting points in the table because otherwise they will be far behind and find it difficult to return to the top, Today they met Ludogorets and their performance should be able to get a win although it looks tough for Roma because many players are in bad shape.

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exactly
they have enough quality at Rome because they bought some good players
if they didn't take Mourinho and take other players, it was certainly going even better than how it has recently been
my opinion

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Quote from: AakZaki on September 07, 2022, 11:59:06 PM

Defeat by a considerable margin. It's a surprise and I laughed. I think if Roma lose it's just a one-goal or two-goal difference. A quick goal in the fifth minute made Roma even more devastated and frustrated. Their second half was further ruined.
Roma looked so amateurish, besides that they also had to lose the injured Tammy Abraham. Perhaps Mourinho is also not calm as they will take on Ludogorets in the Europa League on Thursday. This adds to the list of injured players after previously Nicolo Zaniolo also got a shoulder injury.

Big win or big loss can bring extreme happy or disappointed feeling but it is just a win or a loss. Big win or big loss contributes to goal difference that has it meanings at the end of season if two teams have same total points. However, if you manage to win more, lose less than your competitor, at the end you won't have to care of goal difference.

Roma need to be more realistic with the player resource they have in order to get maximum points from weak and avegae clubs. With their quality, winning against top clubs in this season is still big challenge.

Quote from: hahay on September 07, 2022, 10:31:01 PM

Anyway, Roma will still have a chance to compete in the top six but a massive 4-0 loss by Udinese is totally unacceptable, Mourinho must be able to fix the situation quickly. In the next match, Roma will play against Empoli, whose record on paper Roma will be able to win easily, if Mourinho can overcome the problems quickly then I believe Roma will win big too in the next match against Empoli. Roma should be more aggressive to win by a big score, because they have great strikers now which is certainly good to boost their morale.

They have enough quality so get chance to compete in top 4. I don't think top 6 is their target in this season. Because they had it in the last season and with a good transfer season, they are more ambitious now. Top 4 is their lowest target in Serie A. If lucky enough, they will try to compete for Scudetto but it is too early to discuss about that.

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Quote from: Sterbens on September 07, 2022, 12:11:50 PM

I didn't think that Atalanta could be so much better now. Because if you look at last season they even struggled to at least be in a European place. Now they lead the standings with 4 wins and a draw. I hope they can maintain that and participate in the struggle for the Scudetto title this season. If they can afford it, it will be even more interesting.

They start well really,and they have been playing beautiful football also, I think the coach should be applud for the good work but I don't think that's there position,they will drop because the season just start despite them being unbeaten In the table ranking right now they are not considered to be among the top four or even give, I don't see them doing a Leicester city in the saria A and very soon inter Milan and AC Milan will top them,then later the old ladies and Naples will still climb them don't forget there is still Roma.

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Some big club are suffering the start of the new season may be because the season just started and club are trying to get their feet roma with a manager mourinho should do better in the italian league they will bounce back certainly

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I didn't think that Atalanta could be so much better now. Because if you look at last season they even struggled to at least be in a European place. Now they lead the standings with 4 wins and a draw. I hope they can maintain that and participate in the struggle for the Scudetto title this season. If they can afford it, it will be even more interesting.

Atalanta coach is seriously working to ensure his team continue improving until they win this season title to make their fans happy. Based on their performance so far, showed that Atalanta will not too experience defeat from any strong teams in this tournament compared to last season that made their performance so poor because they lacked in the area of defense. I think, Atalanta will continue using the new strategies they are using in this season because it has helped them to won 4 matches and a draw, showed that the team is doing well in this season but they need to improve higher so that no team can reduce their points.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on September 05, 2022, 07:19:09 AM

~snip~

All Roma players are playing below standard, maybe only Dybala is playing well enough, unfortunately Dybala failed to take advantage of the two
big opportunities he got. I'm sure Mourinho will evaluate Roma's poor game against Udinese, basically Roma have quality players that are quite good
this season. Maybe because Roma got a positive result in the previous match, then Roma underestimated Udinese a bit. Even though Udinese is
a team that cannot be underestimated, even before they managed to beat Fiorentina. I believe Roma will do better in the next match.

Defeat by a considerable margin. It's a surprise and I laughed. I think if Roma lose it's just a one-goal or two-goal difference. A quick goal in the fifth minute made Roma even more devastated and frustrated. Their second half was further ruined.
Roma looked so amateurish, besides that they also had to lose the injured Tammy Abraham. Perhaps Mourinho is also not calm as they will take on Ludogorets in the Europa League on Thursday. This adds to the list of injured players after previously Nicolo Zaniolo also got a shoulder injury.

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Quote from: Sterbens on September 07, 2022, 10:18:45 PM

Quote from: Oluwa-btc on September 07, 2022, 05:59:13 PM

I still have same positivity for Atalanta knowing they can sure do better than this. Jose Mourinho and his side also, but the loss to udinese is already a turn off chasing the league at these early periods.

Yes it was a little surprising that their steps were stopped by Udinese. They even had to lose by a score that was far from what was predicted. AS Roma started well and had to be beaten by the non-favorites to win. Indeed this often happens in Serie A, where they always find it difficult to maintain consistency and that is experienced by AS Roma now.

Anyway, Roma will still have a chance to compete in the top six but a massive 4-0 loss by Udinese is totally unacceptable, Mourinho must be able to fix the situation quickly. In the next match, Roma will play against Empoli, whose record on paper Roma will be able to win easily, if Mourinho can overcome the problems quickly then I believe Roma will win big too in the next match against Empoli. Roma should be more aggressive to win by a big score, because they have great strikers now which is certainly good to boost their morale.

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